981 PORSCHE BOXSTER GTS - HOW MUCH IT'S COST TO RUN
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In this non-sponsored video I explain to you how much my auction bought 981 Boxster GTS 3.4 PDK has cost to maintain since I acquired it in December 2021 around 8000 miles ago, and ask the big question, is it worth it?
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They are lovely cars, as Porsche retailer we see the PSE fail alot. So looking at what you bought (and usually BCA is the place to dump cars). The bumper paint for us is £500 per panel, PSE is about £1800-2k to fix, rear tyres ( I would of chosen PS4 - the best all round tyre) , Wheel refurb £50 per wheel, would of kept them standard silver ;). We sold a 35k miler for around £46k a few months back, but cracking cars !
Hi Andrew glad to see you still doing videos my husband says you know your stuff!! Still not sure about the Up GTI we gave ordered as the price has just gone up so much and with the cost of living rises this hasnt helped. We see a High Up blue motion very low miles what is your view on the Blue motion does it really make gearing more sluggish needing worked more at the lower end? Thanks again
Hi Evelyn, sorry for the delay, just can't keep up. Not driven a BlueMotion but every Up! is cheap to run so I wouldn't risk it being too eco driven and less fun. You are right, BlueMotion do tend to have longer gearing. Unlikely High Up! will be much more economical that your GTI so stick with it, prices are holding up on the used cars so it should prove a cheap car to run plus the order book have closed (again). Your patience should be worth it
@@volkswizard Thanks for reply but things havent turned out as we planned. Had to cancel the car as my husband hasnt been well so we had to let it go.
My 981 Boxter GTS got written off by some idiot that drove into whilst it was parked. I got all my money back plus a little bit more in payout from insurance company. They are expensive to service, but the car is completely reliable if you keep it serviced. I did over 30k miles in mine, including many trips down to south of France in it. Fantastic car and a safe investment if you can budget for the services
well done andrew a great video and great to see an update on the porsche it sounds amazing and bet it was a fabulous drive on your road trip! i think those costs are fairly reasonable for what work has been done can see how much you love it!
Thanks Daniel. Well the car is still here though trying to keep the miles down as it had its busiest year by far in 2022. Looking forward to taking it some special places in 2023. It's hard to beat, I want a 718 GT4 but for £80k I could keep the Boxster and get a GTI Clubsport S - a very nice 2 car garage. Also GT4 will be a headache bottoming out and on stupid semi-slick tyres unless you pay £1000+ to swap for some that won't kill you. And being manual if you dare hit the rev limiter you get told off by Porsche when you come to sell! GTS (S for strasse/street) is the sensible but still big fun choice :)
I think you've done well there. Good decisions all round.
Clean the hood again and Fabsil it. You won't believe how good it works. Porsche wheel centre caps the crest should be pointing to the tyre valve.
I recommend getting a paint colour key cover for about £10 on Amazon. Also leather key ring from Amazon any colour isn’t much
Definitely worth it. Back in June I did a 1 week road road trip across Europe covering seven countries and 3000 miles in my 997 Carrera 4S. Absolutely great fun, never missed a beat
Hi Andrew, slightly off topic question to your video but was wondering which do you think is a better choice for a daily driver currently out of a mk5 or mk6 gti? More focused on milage and the age of them now, do you think the mk5 is still a solid choice for regular milage? Thanks
Mk6 as it's so much newer, just be aware of timing chain issues 2011 and earlier. Most Mk5s are junk now but there is hope with Mk6 and in theory it's a superior, certainly not worse than Mk5 as it's so similar underneath. Also better on fuel and no timing belt chainges needed.
Would you recommend the place you got your front bumper done? My Cayman GTS needs the same job
No I wouldn't recommend them as they seem to think it's OK to double the price of an estimate when you've spent days stripping the car down and you deliver it to them and are committed. I'm looking for a new bodyshop now got a few options in the Leamington Spa area.
Yikes. That doesn't sound ideal. Best of luck finding one, and thanks for the video 👍
RE the stone chips have you had any experience with the clear PPF films you can apply to the first quarter of the bonnet/front end Andrew? Are they effective? I was considering ordering for whatever my new car is as current one (Mk7.5 Golf) has been hammered by stone chips more than any car I've had. (I'm probably just going to get another 7.5 Golf 😂)
They are good - have on 7.5 tcr but the pre cut kit is around £1200- £1700 depending where you go ( for the same stuff) .. that’s just front end 💰💰💰💰
I got the front bumper, bonnet, mirror caps, sills and rear arches for £1400. Gyeon self healing PPF with. Life time warranty. This was on a GR Yaris. It’s brilliant stuff, 8mm thick and makes trackdays more fun as your aren’t worrying.
Great video thanks well worth all the costs keep enjoying it!
Thanks Mo 👍👍
Hi Volkswizard. (I didn’t catch your name from the video).
I test drove one of these cars today, my first Porsche drive ever! I am leaning towards purchasing it and will make my decision within the next 24 hours. So I am doing whatever research I can on it now.
As I’m looking at buying mine from a dealer, I would be interested to know what your expenses would total for the costs that a dealer would have incurred?
In other words, is the premium one pays to a dealer worth the costs/hassles of having to make these repairs at one’s own expense after the purchase?
I guess I could rewatch your video and list the expenses myself, but I am being lazy, and thinking that some of your other viewers may have the same question.
Thanks for the video.
That reminds me, need to book mine in with Paul for rear discs and pads!
Where else would go for that? No brainier
I agree. Really nice car. Lining up the badges with the valves was a nice touch by the garage.
Thanks Res, yes indeed that was next level attention to detail!
@@volkswizard Did you spot that they lined up the badge with the valve AND the locking wheel nut? 😉
I thought all boxsters and caymans had sound piped into the cabin, not just the GTS?
Google 981 sound symposer and you'll see it's just GTS
Love the sound 👍 and if it puts a smile on your face keep driving and keep smiling! Hope you enjoy your road trip 😁👍
Nothing scary in the costs you mention. Those thrills don’t come cheap I guess. Hope you have many more trouble free months of joy. Amazing sound.
Thanks Sean 🔥🔥
Think you smiled more driving the up gti 😁
They are both fun but in different ways, easy to justify both and hope to do so one day soon
@@volkswizard I think they are both very efficient at what they do. Thank you for your reply.
As a bit of a tyre nerd I'm curious why you went for Assy 2's on the rear when Assy 6's are the latest design I believe. You mentioned something about them being Porsche approved but surely the later design would be just as good if not better? To be honest I'm surprised Goodyear still makes these older versions and maybe your video explains why!?
If you have an OPC warranty (not sure if the case here) you have to run N rated tyres. The PS4S comes in N0 and is what I use for my car.
Not just warranty, tyre was approved by Porsche at great expense to Goodyear and is custom made to suit 981
It’s all about Porsche approval, a non approved generic Assymetric 6 is unlikely to be better than a 2 that’s been tuned for 981 chassis. But it’s academic anyway as you can’t run a non N rated (Porsche approved) tyre without risking insurance complications. I spoke to Jerome from Goodyear who worked with Porsche to approve Assym 2 in 2011 and asked him why no approval for later tyre and he said 2 still meets Porsche spec but also hinted it costs loads of money for Goodyear & Porsche so not worth it. It’s a great tyre, done 3k on them though mainly dry & warm. Improved the ride a bit
Good video, but you didn't tell us the total number of kilometers that the car has done. (Unless I missed it.) I don't think you can make a value judgement on running costs unless you know how many k's a car has done.
It was 50,000 km when I bought it, I’ve added around 15000km now in just a year
Can you do a vid on the Volkswagen CC vr6 4 motion exec. I’m on my second one!
Would love to but not sure we get that in UK, where are you based?
Hi Andrew. Just wanted to say I find every one of your videos extremely interesting,honest and humble . I hope you continue …
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Wow great for a hoon - similar spec car here would be around AUD 135k if you could find one so £45k a bargain imho - enjoy in your now seemingly much expanded garage - glad you have the room as great content 👍🥳
Don't be surprised, every Porsche car from every era has its own issues. None are built with immense reliability, that is a fact, but reliable enough to put up with them, love and enjoy the brand! It comes with the territory!
987.2 is probably as good as it gets and that will probably have issues with leaks, mounts, bushes and AC...i wouldn't touch out of warranty
Love the Haas shirt!
Gunter is the man 👊
Great video Andrew. Nice videography too.
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Thanks Darren, on both counts 👍
One day, I will have one. Until then, I will live vicariously through you haha.
It's a deal Jason 😎
Yeah... as long as you enjoy it... its worth it👍
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You don't get much for 45k nowadays. So I think you're doing rather well with this one :)
Nice sports car...all one really needs 😎👍
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You got a great deal! You will easily make a small profit on the car.
I'd love a 981 Boxster S or GTS but they seem very expensive for their age. A Jag F-type looks better value.
Jag is nice but in soft top, boot is tiny and not big enough for trips away unfortunately
@@volkswizard and you’ll always have JLR reliability on your mind.
Jag is a dog on wheels
Yeah but an F Type isn't a Porsche
@Sam agree! I drove a F-Type before. They are nice, but it is definitely not a Porsche.
Great ending. Nice car.
Thanks for watching to the end Andrew. Could’ve believe it was just 25 seconds worth of footage as took a lot of planning but was worth it in the end, just 😁
Looks and sounds very nice Andrew, like myself I see you still have your Swiss Vignette sticker in place
Thanks Alistair. Might get double dips on Vignette as back there next month.
Regarding the parking brake, you don’t want it going on automatically for track use. Hot rotors + parking brake = sticky seized mess.
Good point Steve but most Porsches won't see a track so would be logical to default on and let the track minority do a bit of fiddling as per Golf to leave it off. Even if some one has a GT3/4 that they track, they'll be using the parking brake more than the times when they come off track and need to leave it off. I'm hoping it can be tweaked with diagnostics to do what I want as it would make a great car perfect
It's the wonderful sound that really adds that extra visceral touch isn't it? This is why battery powered cars fail, for me. At best, they're silent - at worst, they sound like a milk float. But a decent engine on full song - it's what makes driving such a pleasure. Something battery powered cars lack. Roll on the work of Toyota and other clever engineers who are pioneering liquid hydrogen powered ICE cars!
Hi Andrew, had you thought of doing a video about used Porsche Boxster values. Seems crazy ATM, dealers charging over list for 5-6 year old cars. Puts me off the brand tbh.
When I used to sell Mk2 Golf GTIs I got lots of comments about how they were overpriced and my reply used to be I don't set the prices, the market does (and now the cars are worth 3 x more 😁). 2022 has been a weird year because the lack of new car supply has continued due to the Ukraine war. Some older people are probably heading for their last few years of being able to get in and out of a Porsche so will pay whatever is necessary. If you can wait then do so as the last 2 years have been unprecedented in the motor trade and when supply comes back there will be some sharp corrections especially if this coincides with consumers feeling the cost of living pinch. The fact Porsches command such a high used value is testament to their desirability so worth waiting for 👍
I was just saying "look at the mark 1 .." 👍
Got one of those tucked away in my garage '83 All White hasn't been driven for 5 years. Seeing that gold one makes me think I need to get my **se into gear and sort it out.
@@wynhughes9072 get it out and drive it ffs!! 😆😆
You would 🙄😆
I'm actually quite annoyed with you, Andrew - since your "road trip" video, I've found myself spending my time browsing the Porsche website, playing about with the configurator!! Also having a mooch around the Porsche centre in Perth when I was working....... it's an itch that I can't get rid of. Thanks🤣.
Interesting that you've had a 911 before - I'd be interested in your "take" on how the Boxter compared with it? I'm not 100% sure I'd get a Boxter (although it certainly seems perfectly useable with the roof up), was wondering how it would compare with a Cayman? I've read plenty of how noisy they both are, but you didn't seem to find that (& it didn't sound particularly "noisy" on your video). Probably a lot to do with tyre choice, I think.
Probably at that age that it's time for the stereotypical "mid life crisis" car now🤣🤣. Turning 50 does that to you.....! Can remember seeing a Porsche 911 & 928 on the supercar calendars that I got as a teen (always preferred Porsche, compared to Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc). Maybe it's time.....I'll blame you🤣
Sorry (not sorry 😁)
Tyre noise the main noise from it. Otherwise the Boxster is rather refined on a cruise. Actually quieter than the cayman as the engine is outside the cabin. In the cayman it’s in there with you.
@@jameslove888 great point, hadn't thought of that
Life is short! Buy the Porsche!
@@Julia-xz7vb I fully intend to at some point
Of course it is!
Agreed!
I’ve owned a number of Porsche and carried out my own maintenance and repairs. I can’t help but think that exhaust valve issue could have been fixed easily with a little time and persuasion. Porsche dealers (main or top independents) are too eager to spend customers money on replacements rather than repair. Just my opinion obv.
I had both valves jam on my 981 Boxster S and even with the exhausts off the car they had to be really mashed about to get them moving and then the arms needed welding up.
I had bought the complete kit to convert a non sports exhaust car from Germany, it was almost the same price as 1 side! £1500 for the lot. So I now have spares for any other problems.
I tried to fix it believe you me but as soon as I put some pressure on it to free it up the rod came off the actuator and it was impossible to reconnect it.
@@volkswizard I was lucky as I had a fabrication shop to fix things.
Ive met a mechanical engineer and he stated that technicians working in dealers are mostly part changers. Not actual Mechanics. They couldn't repair an engine or even skim a disc....they hire the mechanical engineer. Who actually studied years to perfect the craft. A master technician is just the beginning.
So question is. Would a Mk8 golf R keep up with that thing????
Easily, Rs are very fast but dull, Boxster is the antithesis of that
@@volkswizard 100% 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Fast but dull! So are you changing your name to Porsche wizard?
@@volkswizard So 45k second Porche or 45k brand new golf R. Let me know if you want to make a video with both. I'll bring mine along???
@@johnstannard8366 Why put question marks when it wasn't a question, let alone three?
Far too expensive for me unfortunately.
It's expensive to buy but doesn't depreciate and running costs are relatively low so once you've forked out for it, it's not far off Audi money to run
If you buy & drive a Porsche why do you care about costs???
The Boxter is a crappy little car at the end of the day and everybody knows it..911 or dont bother..A Golf GTI in the right specification is far more de rigeur.....Particularly in these Woke times .Cheers John.
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nah...Golf is boring....why do i need 5 seats and 4 doors...even the 3 door previous GTi and R looked better.....Shape is not even appealing. I cant imagine buying a hatchback unless i have kids...
Overpriced thrills
Sold my 81 ROW 911 in 2020 and purchased a Golf R. I try to make myself miss the Porsche bcs i had various classic models for 18 years but honestly don't miss the service bills, the idiots who constantly ask about it at gas stations, and dont miss the idiotic investors who don't drive a 911 as it should be.