TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE?: Turin DF83 Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2024
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Have you tried one of these? Is this in your budget? Let me know below!
Thanks to Joe Kolb for sending this out for me to test.
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0:00- Introduction
2:05- Grinder Overview
4:00- Biggest Issue
7:12- Burr Chamber
8:37- Single Dose/Hopper
11:45- Burr Talk
19:12- Filter-Off
21:00- Espresso-Off
24:50- Conclusion
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Lance casually hand drumming a 3:2 polyrhythm in a coffee video is what I live for 😂
I am convinced these videos are just a mechanism for him showing off all of his other random talents
Dude what about when he just dropped the beatbox wtf
Is there anything he can't do?
I literally just ordered this 3 days ago with the SSD burs, and your review got me hyped now! Thank you for the great breakdown of it!
These videos keep getting better & better. I really enjoy the pacing, to the point, yet still entertaining. Thank you for all your hard work!
This channel is entertaining and enjoyable. A nice relatable content creator who provides digestible information while being entertaining.
Lance is everything I like about Americans in the way that James is everything I like about the British
Lance you are really becoming one of my favourite coffee channels.. also: I am so looking forward to a potential review of that lever machine in the background 🙏🏻
Great singing voice, Lance! You are always fun and informative. Thanks for this great video.
Thanks for finally making this video! So happy having upgraded it from an SD40 and Sette 30 (though I still want to compare the Sette with the DF83). Fully agree with your comments about it straddling the divide between a conical and flat profile. It fits my preference perfectly for that reason as I generally prefer milk drinks as well. So happy with it but also wish it used a DC motor which would have allowed for the additional of variable speed.
Fun fact - its "20" grind setting is in the wrong position and is actually centered on the 19 mark on the current stickers.
Happy 2023 Lance! Great review and insight. Might consider this now because I'm one of those people who are in between modern or more traditional shots. Good luck with the new year!
Just ordered the DF83 on December 31st, after hours of agony trying to decide which grinder to buy. So happy to see your review today.
Thank you for doing these review. They are both entertaining and educational.
Been a Sub for a while now, and I gotta say your video quality has improved dramatically! Congrats!
Still can’t get over how nice the portakeepers look, really makes the whole set pop!
The weapons rack
Awesome content as always! And so good to see, that it scales up and is evolving over time in quality. Stoked on future videos!
Is there a review of the Arco Grinder planned?
Great review! I’ve been using a Ceado E37SD with SSP HU burrs for the past year and despite having multiple other grinders these burrs are still my main go to.
Awesome video Lance. Informative, entertaining and funny. Excellent work, thanks a lot for sharing this with us.
Man, the studio, the filming quality and even the shirt, how Could you not love this channel?
The attitude seems forced and not genuine.
@@normrubio well, after some time you come to the conclusion that that’s his personality. And I love it! To each his own
Also love the shirt!
@@normrubio for whatever it’s worth I’ve watched Lances videos for awhile and interacted with him several times in DMs and Discord video chats and he is who he is his through and through. I get not everyone’s communication style is for everyone, but everything I know about Lance is genuine.
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Sold! I have been on the fence for a while and was recommended this grinder by someone. Your video sold it to me. Thank you
love it! Hope you enjoy it!
Really good cinematography in the intro Lance, keep it up!
Your grinder reviews are alway better than expected. And I always expect them to be good.
One of your best Lance. Thank you for your hard work.
Great content as always dude, nothing starts my day better than watching your video while sipping my americano
The cool thing about this channel is that it is genuine and funny
Happy New Year Lance, wishing you a wonderful 2023.
Your production quality is immaculate👌
Loved the little Jack Johnson interlude! I'm very tempted by this grinder but I have yet to see one of these that I think looks more aesthetically pleasing than the Niche Zero
Love the videos, Lance! Keep it up
Just was looking at this grinder vs the niche then this drops on cue. You truly are the king of kings
Your intros are insane, I love them!
Came for an espresso grinder, stayed for drums und singing skills. The man who has it all
heck yeah! Thanks for watching!
great content as always man! love it!
Just got my hands on one today. They made some pretty good adjustment/update for version 2!!!
Awesome review, love your channel!!!❤
Another great video mate. Thanks for the work
I love how most other coffee youtubers edit out the slurps, and you specifically edit it to include all of them as quickly as possible 🤣
Hands down, the best coffee channel on YT !
I like coffee related content but I still watch it for you doing music 🥰 I wasn’t disappointed
I love you busted out some good old Jack Johnson! takes me back to high school. Your voice is on point.
Love you Lance! You're getting better and better with each and every video. So spot on with your assessments on all aspects of the equipment - with relation to cup quality, etc. Enjoy your goofiness and want to acknowledge how talented you are. Looking forward to your next videos. Well Done!
when you replaced that wooden cap a.k.a. flying cymbal... lol
super vid man, cheers!
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Nice job Lance 👊🏼. Yes this grinder is damn impressive. Even more so when the price point is factored in.
Enjoyed this review bro, love your style 🫡 multitalented😆
As someone that is stuck between traditional and modern espresso, I absolutely love my 74mm HU burrs in the atom 75. They had a lot more clarity than the stock burrs but were not as sharp and acidic as the 64mm brew burrs.
Good to know. I currently have the SSP 64MP and find then to sharp and acid focussed. Maybe I take a look into some 75 mm grinders.
Always enjoy your reviews, thanks for this informative review. It helps me alot in deciding what i truly want. ba dam tissss
The chute taper is a real issue. I had the declumper completely clogged up once. Nothing coming out and grinder still goes wild causing serious clogged up with ultra fine grinds blocking every exit. A pain to clean up. Also the inner chute might start pointing towards right due to the build up at exit. It will end up colliding with outer chute cover making it impossible to take apart. I broke my inner chute when doing this disassembly.
Love today's review.
Thank you for the entertaining and informative video!
Thanks for the good news. I finally ordered a DF83 with SSPs from espresso outlet after seeing Kenneth with a loaner as well for the first time ever my wife requested a big flat after seeing me struggle with the Kopi Deva
It would be fun to have an afternoon chillin with this guy. Love your personality
Lance, you are a rock legend
How often can you say that you heard an in-depth product review and a karaoke set in one go? Awesome review--I'm sold!
I ordered my df83 a week ago after seeing other reviews and this review made me extra certain I made the right choice! I’m upgrading from a hand grinder and I fall into the category of drinking traditional and modern espresso types as well as pourover so this really was the best option for me.
Wow, that’s going to be quite a change. Please let us know your experience, I’d love to hear it.
@@Conservator. I got it yesterday and so far the espresso has been delicious. The pourover I made hasn’t been too different from a handgrinder, but I think there were many fines so I’ll try again after removing the declumper
@@cmcguire7901Thanks!
@@cmcguire7901 what are your thoughts now?
@@willmitchell8500 I still haven’t been able to tweak the declumper since I’ve been traveling and didn’t have the correct screwdriver but the espresso made from it is quite good and mostly on par with what I get at 3rd wave cafes even though my machine is lower end.
You are a good singer. Good voice and intonation. Better than a few artist I've worked with.
Awesome review as always! If the whole coffee thing doesn't work out 😂😂😂 you can have a great career as a singer
When can we expect a review of that cool lever machine in the background?
I've been watching your videos since day 1 and never realised i wasn't subscribed. Love how you integrate singing into your videos. You remind me of Jack Black. You are the Jack Black of coffee!
Hola! Was this Lance Johnson or Jack Hedrick? What a great review. Loving watching your channel grow. You bring great flavour to the coffee world. Thinking this might be my next grinder so thanks from Canada. Keep it up Mister and you'll not need that other gig.
Awesome review as always! Thanks Lance!
Could you also review DF64P/E?
Thank you Sir! This made my decision in my purchase for the end game grinder! Agreed, why get two grinders when you can just switch out the burrs! Will be upgrading my BBE to the BDB paired with this sexy beast! Let's make some delicious coffee! ☕ Cheers!
Dear Lance sorry to have been so scathing this morning over your mist the coffee dissertation. In actuality it was very excellant. It was on a par with Yale, Princeton, Harvard. I can't drink coffee any more. Oh I may relapse but I really should not. Your dissertation was top notch. I'm just upset because I can't have coffee any more. I will live vicariously through you fastenating vidios. Keep up the good work. I found it intriguing!
Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the high quality content here and taking your time to make these videos superb. There was a point in the video that I lost Internet connection but I thought it was you playing a prank and freezing yourself haha.
The snapping to get the bellows lid on was hilarious!
You finally hit the nail on the head! "ESPRESSO YOURSELF THE MUSICAL, ON BROADWAY-STARRING LANCE HEDRICK" The set design will be pretty amazing...Gigantic grinders, E61's, tampers, portafilers, scales, V60's, WDT's, beans, etc... 🙂
After using the Sette 270, Niche, and DF64 with SSP MP and SSP Cast, I finally feel like I’ve landed on what I’ve been looking for with the DF83 with SSP HU. I love modern fruity and floral coffee, but I still want my espresso to be sweet with good body and a lingering aftertaste. Most of the best espresso I have ever tasted has been from the Mahlkonig Peak and to a lesser extent the Mythos grinders at nice coffee shops. I wish I could have those 80mm lab sweet burrs from the Peak in a reasonable single dosing form factor at home, but I finally feel like I am in the same ballpark with this setup. I felt reasonably happy with my modified DF64 and the SSP Cast burrs, but they seemed to be much more fickle with different coffees and occasional astringency. I’m excited to see what SSP can do with an 83mm lab sweet style burr.
Do you have an update to this?
@@pvtghost24 hey! I’m happy to update. I still feel very positive about the 83mm SSP HU. Ultimately, I wasn’t in love with the DF83 platform itself. The static on v1 was mildly frustrating and I don’t like the workflow of the bellows. I sold it and decided to try the Sculptor 78s and 078 which I haven’t received yet. In the meantime I’ve been using a Pietro with pro burrs and a hyper aligned Vario with Ditting steel burrs. I really like the Pietro for turbo shots and filter. The Vario is solid, but I hate the form factor and grind settings. Right now, I do miss the DF83 and I wonder if I ever would have got rid of it if I had the v2.
Thanks for the detailed review! I currently have a niche and I’m very happy with it, but not sure what I’m missing from flat burrs. I’m intrigued but not sure what burr set to get or if this is a fit to try flat burrs? It would be only for espresso with light to medium roasts. Thanks for any insight you could offer!
Thanks for the vid. Please review that Timemore Sculptor teasing us in the background. About to impulse buy it and would appreciate your perspective 😬
Lol, I just noticed a little Sculptor easter egg in that vid. Thank you for doing an ungodly amount of work to bring these reviews to us, Lance.
You’re the best dude. Keep it up
Hey, Lance! Thank you for the another amazing review! Will be DF83 a noticeable upgrade in terms of taste over sette 270 in espresso and milk based drinks what is your opinion?
Found the same thing, DF83 does well at coarser brew methods, even though it has some fines it doesn't seem to cause much negative effects besides lower clarity but more body (bit more aftertaste maybe too as a result).
People are saying the declumper might be contributing to the fines (but I'm not sure that's the case for mine, it seems well behaved).
Are you saying the Stock burrs did better for pour overs than the SSP espresso burrs on the DF83? I'm guessing more clarity with SSPs? Would be interesting to hear how the SSP compared for light roast espresso as well.
Were the 83mm SSP burrs a significant jump in clarity while still somehow having good body?
Not only did i learn some things about a grinder in this video, but i learned a very very specific new vocab word
You were right. Modding the declumpers is a must. Thank you for your content! #goat #beatbox
I’ve stalled the grinder several times while seasoning, for the same reason you mentioned. Quite a frustrating little flaw
I bought a C38 because I needed a decent grinder to use while I did my research on what I was going to get because I make espresso 7 days a week for me and my wife, but sometimes I want to enjoy a pourover. I've considered getting an Ode for that but it felt silly...so I was considering the Niche but it seems nigh impossible to get one to the US in any reasonable time, and this is the same price. Thanks for making my mind up for me, once again, Lance
keep being you brother. you are awesome.
Thanks for your contributions to our coffee experience
Ahhh, Lance, finally, you have a very interesting lever tidbit in the background, when is that video report coming? So we should see you really pulling a shot, but paired with what grinder? Ahh, more mysteries, it seems, awaiting us.
Brilliant video as always. Do I see the new Timemore Sculptur at 19:21? Hoping theres a review coming at some point!
Does the presence or absence of the declumper make any difference when it comes to static cling?
Dope shirt dude
Ayyy, I see that Pietro flat burr hand grinder in the background, looking forward to your take on it since us mere mortals won't get to touch one until, what, February?
Gotta love the fun you bring to these reviews🤪 I did enough TH-cam to feel the pain about the hard work versus the money. Just wanted to say thanks and I do appreciate the gift you give to the community!!!
Hi,
You’ve shown me a new feature that’s not available to me (on my iPhone in the Netherlands). I can send SuperChats on live streams but not on normal videos (yet?).
How did you send this SuperChat?
@@Conservator. On my TH-cam app on my Android phone below the video there is a little icon for super chats that looks like a heart.
Love your content Lance. Have really been getting into a deep dive and learning more coffee. Recently got my first real espresso machine and looking for a new grinder. I am leaning toward a P64 but this video has me thinking one of these D83 might be a great option. Would love to see/hear a comparison of the two
Option-O Lagom P64 is more sleek / refined and beautiful, with a slightly better workflow, I like the magnetic portafilter funnel that comes with it the best (more cleanliness and more perfect out of the box, no declumper issues usually I believe), and you get variable RPM which is handy for getting a little more versatility out of the same burr set, but for the Price difference it's hard to fault the DF83, build quality is pretty good, it's super heavy, coffee taste is nice and smooth, you currently do have less burr options in 83mm but that might change soon. Longevity of the DF83 is unknown since it's a lot newer, although the P64 has had some iterations as well and the latest version is kind of 'new'.
I think this is one of those grinders most coffee enthusiasts want in their brew bar. It's not the most beautiful one but seems like it checks all the other boxes.
P.S. Are you planing to do any outdoor videos from Portugal? I would love to see that. 😊
That singing before the espresso taste was soooo nice!
For me, the question is: should I upgrade my burrs on my df64 to ssp mp from stock OR upgrade to the df83 (I do both chemex and espresso with a Zacconi lever)?
Nice, using the filter 2.2 prototype basket as a doser!
I got a bit lost in the burr talk…in comes Jack Johnson 💙 Such a nice impression Lance!
Would love to see you re-visit the df64 and the burrs available as to whether its worth upgrading them
Thank you for the video Lance! Do you think it’s only a matter for time before we see a DF100?
Interesting and quite a diversion from the Alternate Brewing assessment on cup profile as he described it as high clarity with a little texture, as opposed to full body and texture here
Yeah I disagree with high clarity.
Thanks for the trigger warning! I have misophonia. Great video! I have been excited to hear about the DF83
Thank you Lance.
It sounds like you were saying the 83mm SSP espresso burr is also higher body and sweetness and conical like or were you still talking about the DF83s stock burrs?
Was there a noticeable bump in flavour clarity on the SSPs while still keeping the body? What I'd like to compare with is the 64mm SSP MP Unimodal burrs, and/or SSP 98mm Espresso burrs.
Hey Lance.
I’m planning to purchase the DF64. Do you have any cheaper recommendations for burrs to start out with? I like the SSP MP but I can’t afford to upgrade immediately to them.
Thanks for the review, Lance. I'm wondering if have you heard of infrared roasted coffee and if so what do you think of it?
Are there any mods available for the chute? It looks a lot like the chute on the old minima deMoka et al grinders from yesteryear. I nearly went ballistic on it for exactly the same reason as you were describing, almost a double dose of grounds hanging around up its chute. But at that time almost all other grinders except the Mazzer mini doserless had those chutes, and it wasn't until the HG-1 that things really changed.
Hey Lance, I believe here in Australia, Turin might be being sold under the brand Coffee Tech. The model numbers are the same. Are you able to confirm if this is the case? I can't seem find any relation between Turin and Coffee Tech online.
Wait, I just bought my first automatic grinder, the Ode Gen. Can you talk about what you mean my “seasoning” the grinder? And what about cleaning the burr- should we and how often?
Lance is a top notch on coffee video as James H!
So for mostly light and medium roast espresso duty do you think this is the best option at this price? Or is it worth the extra over say a DF64? Or the DF64v which is almost the same price... I'm going to get a Breville Dual Boiler and just having a hard time locking down what grinder haha. I will say the DF64v with the quiet DC motor is appealing as well. Currently we're using a 2k dollar super automatic but I hate it.....I miss semi automatic lol.