Very informative video, I'm a company driver at Prime right now. Been thinking about going lease. The information you put out in the video was very helpful thanks👍⛟
Thank you very much, this was interesting, helpful and very informative. Other drivers will never tell you a thing. Thanks for being honest. God will always be with you. May God protect you on the road. Thanks again and God bless you.
I feel as if I owe you something for all that. It was very helpful and clears up so much and shows the possibility with enough hard work and research. Thank you.
The ignorance is real. Why do you people worry so much about the weekly payment. At the end of the day he's doing the same exact work as a company driver while making more money and potentially paying off a truck. I dont think anyone should lease to pay the truck off because you end up paying way more than the truck is worth but, at the very least its a opportinity to make money faster to buy your own used truck. When you add training to the scenario a real hustler could have used truck money in less than a year. Worst case scenario is it doesnt work for you and you take advantage of the walk away lease and go back to being a company driver. Only a coward wouldn't at least try it and then bad mouth someone for having the balls to at least try!
@@18Darkside I still don't understand why people lease! By the way, how many people at prime pay off their trucks? From what I heard, it was around 8%. It is a scam!
you are the reason why i became a truck driver and why im with prime. Im company right now and i plan to train psd students only. You are like a hero to me.
This guy is spot on with his numbers, I know because I worked for WilTrans (pulls Prime freight) the money was really good, the only reason I quit was too much Northeast....
regardless of the decisions and comments below, what you proved is you have to be disciplined about recording keeping and objective about how you analyze your financial situation. Well done. Thanks
Great video sir. I’m a student at U.S. Truck Driving School in Detroit and will graduate on the 15th off this month. Very motivated and looking forward to setting in to a good company.
All lease purchase programs are a rip off. Save your money. Buy a used truck. Lease yourself onto a percentage based company. Your weekly truck payment is my monthly truck payment and I don’t hold up traffic everywhere I go.
Po stoner tell me your numbers include purchase price maintenance and repairs I'm a company drive but have spoken to many also fuel discounts and the money saved by not driving like an ass please brake down the difference of you average 5 to 7 mpg to his 8 to 15 mpg oh did I mention brand new equipment under warranty I'll wait
Great video, thank you for being very detailed. Prime sounds like a great company. I work for cardinal logistics out in California,great company also.I run California to Arizona home every day off weekends bring home $1260 week....
I made 242k last year..117k my money after I paid everything like fuel payments and maintenance and taxes and I drove around 110k miles. And I took alot of time off too..GET UR OWN TRUCK AND STOP MAKING MONEY TO MEGA COMPANIES.
Thks, for you're honesty . I had one guy telling me he makes 10k take home a month ,some guys just love showing of ,what is not true...👍 ive done lease purchase 15 yrs ago amd thats about right on the money ...i make .50 to .54 / mile with 2500 miles average per week regional plus the tarpings so I'll stay where I'm at....3000 miles a week. Those days are gone ....
@Yeti Roams nah..they say they charge u so much...but when u get audited you will find out that they actually charge you +$2k ...I know cuz it happened to me
Sounds good but I only drive 1800 miles a week and bring home 1100 a week as company, I think I just stay company .but thank you it helped me make my decision
That math is bullshit and you know it. Bring home is net not gross. Even at gross that's .61 a mile. If your making .61 a mile at prime as a company driver than you must be a 2,000,000 safe mile lifer with prime.
Not a fake post. I bring home around 1100 a week as well with only running 1800-1900 a week. Plus I have no cost full benefits and a pension. I don't normally go by my mileage rate though because we get pin pay and delay pay as well and that all plays a factor. I can make $46 in 20 minutes in pins at a terminal. That is the equivalent of almost $130/hr. Can't do that consistently but that is where a lot of money comes from. I normally work around 50 hours for that pay. I'm also home every day and have a start time. What time I come home is unpredictable but that is just the nature of the job. But if I put in another day, worked a 60-65 hour week I would bring home around 1400-1500 depending on the week.
@@michaelkeefer6799 Ok, I guess I stand corrected. You are pretty transparent about how you reach that number. I was thinking he was referring to a job based solely on millage pay. I have a strange arrangement with the guy I drive for. I get 25% of whatever I put on the truck each week and I'm not responsible for fuel, repairs, and I have an actual company credit card so any scale tickets or whatever comes up for supplies is covered. He buys me dinner all the time which is nice. Anyway, I do a little bit of everything for him. Local LTL, long haul LTL, OTR dry van, but mostly OTR flatbed. The truck gets paid for every stop on top of mileage depending on the contract for LTL so I should have taken that into account. So many people are full of shit that I kind of jumped on that guy which isn't fair. Sounds like you got a pretty sweet deal going on. To me there's those jobs that pay very well out there but run you 2,500 to 3,000 a week. Sounds like you can make a good living off of a lot less which is ideal long term. I don't want to throw down 3,000 miles a week. That is why I like flatbed. Same money but you get to get out of the truck and do something else.
I dont have an issue with primes lease I have an issue with the % they keep from the load where I'm at currently I get 88% of the load & book my own loads
My husband did OTR with prime, never really made much, finished his contract, went local for JB hunt and that sucked too, delivered to a grocery store called Giant, we live in PA, he is now a "Peapod" Delivery driver for Giant, he basically drives a commercial non-cdl truck and brings groceries to peoples kitchens, he has been there for just over 4 years now and he makes 65,000 a year doing it. He said hes likely to break 70,000 this year. Full benefits for us and our kids, he gets 3 weeks paid vacation a year since hes been there for 4 years, he has 401k and they match 5%, and he works 5 days a week 10 hours a day and home everyday and 2 days off. I think OTR drivers are VERY underpaid.
This guy knows his shit !! And let’s be honest I agree after years of experience u can go anywhere and make over a grand a week take home is it worth your time away from home ? That’s up to you to decide!!! If u do trucking just for the money you probably won’t be happy !!! Trucking is a life style
Good explanation, very professional, and a great video man, good job bud. I'm looking to get in a leasing with Prime.. I'm a company driver right now, making good miles at week. But I think it can be better. Not killing myself.. as you said. Congratulations it was a great video. Really good information and numbers. I expect to make more miles then 2.200 miles at week, so that way probably I'll have the check a lil bigger.
My only thought was always that “yes If I work for prime for 5 years I can have a house a car and etc.” but!!! I trust myself physiologically and driving! When you train, you drive for 11 hrs and sleep when the student is driving (eventually). “you are putting someone in your truck and putting your life in their hands (new driver), and hoping for the best! Again, “you don’t know their background and you don’t know how well they can handle the road! To me Prime nor any company pays enough for me to lay in my bunk and not know if I’m going to wake up again! I have been a driver for many years, yes! Ups and downs! But I know at the end of the day my life and my safety are always in my hands! And believe me, an accident can happen to anyone including me. but at the end, at least my family will be able to be comfortable knowing that I did everything possible to survive! In my opinion it is really messed up and wrong that truck drivers has to go through so much bullshit (being a trainer) to make a decent check! Again just my opinion!
I will tell you this as a trainer....you will know in the first hour if you can trust the person that you are training. There are more things to consider but that is why when I take a student for the team training, I super solo the first load so I can see if they are a good safe driver and I feel comfortable sleeping while they are driving. I can tell you from my own experience that you will not get a lot of sleep with a student. I told mine wake me up if you need me. He only woke me up a couple of times. For the most part I recommend if you are going to train that you take them through the student driver part and then the teaming. Mainly because you are getting someone else's student. they are going to argue with you about things like how to setup in order to back in because they were taught a certain way by the first trainer. That is a real life experience btw. Good luck with training.
Thanks for the info! To put the time off into perspective. Taking 9 weeks off sounds like a lot. Working a normal 40 hour a week job, you will take almost 15 weeks a year off in just weekends. Most jobs also include 2-4 weeks of vacation and maybe some type of paid sick leave. I get 4 weeks of vacation, 2 weeks of paid sick leave, and two weeks of holiday time off per year. So, I take off ~23 weeks per year, ~8 of them are paid. The rest are weekends. If you figure up the amount of hours worked per week as a truck driver it typically comes out to 80+ hours, if you are including all worked hours. Even the ones you don't log. I was working 100+ hours per week when I was a driver. When you start figuring that you are working 2-3 jobs and calculate your hourly rate, trucking sucks. That is why I left the industry.
I'm glad this works for you, and the point I'm making, is that I don't see doing a lease-purchase where you made $183K but paid back $110K in fixed costs. If you kept that truck for 4 yrs you would have paid $228K back to Prime just for the truck. Again I'm not making an argument, and I'm glad it's working for you, but I couldn't do it after adding up and looking at the numbers.
It’s a 3 year lease and you get money back after three years Based on condition of the vehicle 25k is not uncommon for a well token care of truck, sadly leasing is not perfect anywhere in my opinion this has just been my best experience so far my end game is what did I put in my pocket and how much control did I have.
@@CrazyBags i understand, and like i said I'm glad you have got it to where it works for you. Be careful out there and Merry Christmas to you & yours!!
jeremy chastain I pulled a frameless dump for ten years. Slept in my own bed every night. I prefer being over the road and waking up in my truck instead of driving to work every morning.
I make more than that, never leaving the house, sitting on my laptop all day doing code. Screw that! That low ass pay is why millennials don't want to drive. I'm not a millennial, but I completely understand why the trucking industry is getting old.
That's not bad, that's about the same maybe slightly less than what I earn driving a tanker in the oilfield after taxes. It sounds like you probably get a little more time off than I do, but I'm home every night. Trade-offs
I was in the oildfield last year. Looking to get back into it. Do you know any companies hiring women and either provide housing or let you sleep in the truck? I'm interested in temporary housing
@@realjennifermartin The short answer, depends. A lot depends on smarch and rights as applies to your what area of the country you want to work in. The more difficult hurdle is finding a company that will take you with little or no experience in oilfield Trucking. While there are some companies that may avoid hiring women, I think they're just as many more that will hire a woman just to show that they are an equal opportunity employer. Many companies want one to two years of oil field Trucking experience before they will hire you, so where do you get the experience is always the question. The best bet is to find a smaller companies that are more flexible and sometimes are more needy and finding a driver quickly. Of course this creates greater risk and having steady employment though. It is easy to get into a situation where they need drivers this month and will hire you, but by next month they're short on work and guess who's the first to go. If you're serious about getting into the oil field work though even a month experience will help to get the next job, and then the next. I have been lucky and stumbled into a pretty good outfit to work for and have stayed with my first oil field job for 7 years. That is pretty unusual. Good luck!
@@rockymntnliberty of course. I worked for pro-petro in tanker hauling acid for 7 months with no experience prior in trucking. I had just gotten my license when I got hired and on. I worked in the oilfield straight from getting my license for a year. I did fueling and acid. I may need to look outside of Texas. Thanks for responding. Very helpful info
@@Jenn27 The other thing to consider is relocating. That was a benefit for me as I was willing to relocate to wherever the work was. I got lucky and found a job right exactly in the place in the world I wanted to live. And wound up back in Wyoming. I work long hours but I'm home every night and make about three times what I made driving a truck over the road. Making pretty good money but being away from home for weeks at a time just isn't as appealing.
@@rockymntnliberty crazy you mention Wyoming. I've been hearing there's work there. I relocated to texas and worked. I'm from Alabama. I don't care about the relocation part 🙂😁
Hey man my brother works for prime, and he’s going lease op, told me I should too, started watching videos, came across your channel... eye opener man, thank you so much for the information! I think I’m going to prime haha! Wouldn’t that be funny if you were my trainer too haha
Good video. I'm made my mind up to finally go get my CDL in January . I'm just stuck in between going to local 5 week school for $3500 or just go to prime and get it there.
I was there for 15yrs....go to another company....dont lease...contract forces you to train people wth lil to no exp and you are liable for all damage student does...if there not home you are liable for all when student is part of your training even after 1 yr off trk you are still liable of what they do in there 1st trk for a whole yr
Thanx bra!!!! For the information I’m a new subscriber....getting closer to prime missed her call on Friday...so need to wait till Monday lol ... see you around 🤙🏽
Prime is really an awesome company. I just couldn’t do it because of my night vision. I have a bad eye and have no depth perception at night. So paring and docking is almost impossible for me. I would love to drive for prime if it wasn’t for that.
For me this has worked out great I can see how owning a truck works better for others,everyone has differant goals mine is to make 6 figures and this year I will achieve that with prime it took training to reach it but was getting close solo also
You’re doing well but you’re getting ripped off at 1065$ a week for the truck! You can easily get a truck at 1000$ a MONTH, a great truck also. You’d cut your costs and keep 5k a month more in your pocket
I posted my paystubs on my channel as a company reefer driver... took 7 weeks off for surgery plus hometime.... and made $72,645. AND I have health, vision, life and disabikity insirance PLUs paid sick leave vacation dental and made $5000 in Prime paying into my 401k. And company drivers average 55cpm in reefer divison due to all the bonuses...fuel, on time delivery, safety.... not including all my rewarss points and free stuff.
I wanna be something greater, and travel...and if I get to call my truck Prime...get my Autobot sticker and slap it on! Tired of the mundane jobs I work now!
Thanks for the breakdown and your video. I didn’t know you guys got paid percentage not mileage. I see why it don’t matter you all creeping on the highway with all us blazing by your trucks. Can’t you write off some if you’re expenses?
I know a guy who was a lease operator at Swift and he was screwed big time. He was making so many payments that he was taking home no money. He was basically working for free.
I think getting a couple years experience OTR then switching to a local driving job where youre home every night making decent cash is way more desirable.
All Prime lease trucks are 3 years old or less and are under warranty until the lease is up, there is no maintenance account, tire fund is .04 a mile I think
At dart transportation my fixed cost including truck 2018 T680 is only 106.00 per day which is 742.00 per week would be much less if I took a older truck
Thank you for your HONESTY about the game. I've asked a friend whose a team lease purchase operator and he gives vague answers but shows a lot of money on Facebook videos.
Team lease here have the potential to make a lot of money, I know of a married team that consistently take home over 6k after expenses but that’s not every teams experience I hear.
@@CrazyBags they're cousins who are team operators for prime inc. I ask what's the average and I get vague answers but he tells me the payments a week are crazy. Says the payments are $850. I've heard worse payments than that lol. Plus, he's teamed with a relative so I know that $850 payment is split between the 2. That part isn't so bad
I went to prime for the psd program and enjoyed it i was with a lease operator and he said he made over 200k the year before I got on his truck. Unfortunately we pulled back into Springfield ready to test and I had a tooth that needed pulled out. So went and did that then I had some family issues that pulled me out of driving and my trainer told me to get it taken care of and come back cuz I would've trifectad. It's one of the things I want to get back into but now I have 2 kids under 4 and a wife and I cant be gone for 7 weeks just for 1 week at home
Why don’t truck drivers get together and pitch in money to start a fund,so we can go out and get a lobbying firm to lobby on our behalf,to Congress, to get rid of some of these rules the impose on us. Imagine if all truck drivers did this how we can buy Congress like the companies we work for do.
If you don't want a life back at home and you want to be awake long hours training perfect strangers, then by all means leasing will make you money. Don't forget to set aside your quarterly taxes. When you go home for home time, that truck payment still comes out. When the truck is broke down, that truck payment still comes out. You're going to buy all the fuel too.
Thx crazy bags. Im new to industry, prime invited me to the schooling and im also applied 1 other place trying to decide on which company, prime or the other one, and them company vs lease. Are any lease ops force dispatched? Or just company? And is the pay by load (not miles) a lease op thing? Im fearful of being. Company,.mile, force, then getting stuck in traffic, or with shippers who load/unload when it suits them... again being new, im trying to understand it all Great vid thx
No forced dispatch for lease and the % pay is for lease, company drivers are paid by the mile, the choice between company and lease is always a tough one and I highly recommend new drivers start company and work on putting together a system that makes them successful before leasing
CrazyBags awesome. I truly appreciate the response and straight forward experience you share. I do feel much more at ease to focus my first year on just getting a good foundation and then decide if I want to up the stakes, sotospeak. (With greater reward is greater responsibility! ). Lol. Cheers
This is one of the most FLUENT and GET TO THE POINT trucking videos I've seen. Thank you.
Should ask him how that lease is going.
Very informative video, I'm a company driver at Prime right now. Been thinking about going lease. The information you put out in the video was very helpful thanks👍⛟
Thank you very much, this was interesting, helpful and very informative. Other drivers will never tell you a thing. Thanks for being honest.
God will always be with you.
May God protect you on the road. Thanks again and God bless you.
I feel as if I owe you something for all that. It was very helpful and clears up so much and shows the possibility with enough hard work and research. Thank you.
The ignorance is real. Why do you people worry so much about the weekly payment. At the end of the day he's doing the same exact work as a company driver while making more money and potentially paying off a truck. I dont think anyone should lease to pay the truck off because you end up paying way more than the truck is worth but, at the very least its a opportinity to make money faster to buy your own used truck. When you add training to the scenario a real hustler could have used truck money in less than a year. Worst case scenario is it doesnt work for you and you take advantage of the walk away lease and go back to being a company driver. Only a coward wouldn't at least try it and then bad mouth someone for having the balls to at least try!
@Chad Rich thanks
Bruh thank you
Cant clap enough for this statement!
Because you can finance a truck from the bank for cheaper. Monthly payment of $1500-2000 vs a weekly payment of $1000-1200. Lease is a scam
@@18Darkside I still don't understand why people lease! By the way, how many people at prime pay off their trucks? From what I heard, it was around 8%. It is a scam!
Crazy is about as straight up as they come. Thanks for your info and your honesty.
you are the reason why i became a truck driver and why im with prime. Im company right now and i plan to train psd students only. You are like a hero to me.
This guy is spot on with his numbers, I know because I worked for WilTrans (pulls Prime freight) the money was really good, the only reason I quit was too much Northeast....
regardless of the decisions and comments below, what you proved is you have to be disciplined about recording keeping and objective about how you analyze your financial situation. Well done. Thanks
Great video sir. I’m a student at U.S. Truck Driving School in Detroit and will graduate on the 15th off this month. Very motivated and looking forward to setting in to a good company.
All lease purchase programs are a rip off. Save your money. Buy a used truck. Lease yourself onto a percentage based company. Your weekly truck payment is my monthly truck payment and I don’t hold up traffic everywhere I go.
Preach lol
Not really because you can get into a truck for free than save 10k quicker and refinance it..free game
Stay Focused have you done what you said? And how long did it take you to save 10 g’s?
Po stoner tell me your numbers include purchase price maintenance and repairs I'm a company drive but have spoken to many also fuel discounts and the money saved by not driving like an ass please brake down the difference of you average 5 to 7 mpg to his 8 to 15 mpg oh did I mention brand new equipment under warranty I'll wait
Amen on the holding up traffic. Often times I find these guys driving dangerously slow, with their brights on.
thank you for your no bs approach! as an experienced driver looking for lease opportunities it is greatly appreciated!
Great video, thank you for being very detailed. Prime sounds like a great company. I work for cardinal logistics out in California,great company also.I run California to Arizona home every day off weekends bring home $1260 week....
I made 242k last year..117k my money after I paid everything like fuel payments and maintenance and taxes and I drove around 110k miles. And I took alot of time off too..GET UR OWN TRUCK AND STOP MAKING MONEY TO MEGA COMPANIES.
That's very impressive! You bought yours cash or financed?
What if your young and just starting and can’t afford a truck? It’s almost like lease is my only option
@@paladin3116 just save money while earning experience. That's what im doing. Don't really be in a rush.
money taker bro sound like a great plan buddy! Right on 🤙🇬🇺🇺🇸
Keep in mind to buy a truck you need a BIG downpayment and decent credit. you have a higher interest rate as a first time buyer
Great job on the details and outlook. I agree, people are so narrow minded, f the fees, it’s all about the bottom line. Well done!
Thks, for you're honesty .
I had one guy telling me he makes 10k take home a month ,some guys just love showing of ,what is not true...👍 ive done lease purchase 15 yrs ago amd thats about right on the money ...i make .50 to .54 / mile with 2500 miles average per week regional plus the tarpings so I'll stay where I'm at....3000 miles a week. Those days are gone ....
Get a private CPA you'll save more, great video
What’s a cpa?
I agree i pay 155 dollars for my cpa to do my taxes each year
This way mist truck drivers are new..71k..2001xwages home every nite no required weekends..
@Yeti Roams nah..they say they charge u so much...but when u get audited you will find out that they actually charge you +$2k ...I know cuz it happened to me
Sounds good but I only drive 1800 miles a week and bring home 1100 a week as company, I think I just stay company .but thank you it helped me make my decision
Hogrider !! How much do you get per mile?
That math is bullshit and you know it. Bring home is net not gross. Even at gross that's .61 a mile. If your making .61 a mile at prime as a company driver than you must be a 2,000,000 safe mile lifer with prime.
@@brentb5303 Yeah, agreed. Fake post.
Not a fake post. I bring home around 1100 a week as well with only running 1800-1900 a week. Plus I have no cost full benefits and a pension. I don't normally go by my mileage rate though because we get pin pay and delay pay as well and that all plays a factor. I can make $46 in 20 minutes in pins at a terminal. That is the equivalent of almost $130/hr. Can't do that consistently but that is where a lot of money comes from. I normally work around 50 hours for that pay. I'm also home every day and have a start time. What time I come home is unpredictable but that is just the nature of the job. But if I put in another day, worked a 60-65 hour week I would bring home around 1400-1500 depending on the week.
@@michaelkeefer6799 Ok, I guess I stand corrected. You are pretty transparent about how you reach that number. I was thinking he was referring to a job based solely on millage pay. I have a strange arrangement with the guy I drive for. I get 25% of whatever I put on the truck each week and I'm not responsible for fuel, repairs, and I have an actual company credit card so any scale tickets or whatever comes up for supplies is covered. He buys me dinner all the time which is nice. Anyway, I do a little bit of everything for him. Local LTL, long haul LTL, OTR dry van, but mostly OTR flatbed. The truck gets paid for every stop on top of mileage depending on the contract for LTL so I should have taken that into account. So many people are full of shit that I kind of jumped on that guy which isn't fair. Sounds like you got a pretty sweet deal going on. To me there's those jobs that pay very well out there but run you 2,500 to 3,000 a week. Sounds like you can make a good living off of a lot less which is ideal long term. I don't want to throw down 3,000 miles a week. That is why I like flatbed. Same money but you get to get out of the truck and do something else.
I dont have an issue with primes lease I have an issue with the % they keep from the load where I'm at currently I get 88% of the load & book my own loads
Love your videos. Very straightforward and honest.
I'm a truck driver for a towing company. I work 6 days a week I'm home every night I made $78,000 last year no way I'm going back out on the road
My husband did OTR with prime, never really made much, finished his contract, went local for JB hunt and that sucked too, delivered to a grocery store called Giant, we live in PA, he is now a "Peapod" Delivery driver for Giant, he basically drives a commercial non-cdl truck and brings groceries to peoples kitchens, he has been there for just over 4 years now and he makes 65,000 a year doing it. He said hes likely to break 70,000 this year. Full benefits for us and our kids, he gets 3 weeks paid vacation a year since hes been there for 4 years, he has 401k and they match 5%, and he works 5 days a week 10 hours a day and home everyday and 2 days off. I think OTR drivers are VERY underpaid.
Ronald Morrison who the fuck cares
Ronald Morrison fuck outta here Ronald no way you made that as a tow ruck driver
@@MrDcampos1017 wouldn't that depend on where he lives?
This guy knows his shit !! And let’s be honest I agree after years of experience u can go anywhere and make over a grand a week take home is it worth your time away from home ? That’s up to you to decide!!! If u do trucking just for the money you probably won’t be happy !!! Trucking is a life style
Good explanation, very professional, and a great video man, good job bud. I'm looking to get in a leasing with Prime.. I'm a company driver right now, making good miles at week. But I think it can be better. Not killing myself.. as you said. Congratulations it was a great video. Really good information and numbers. I expect to make more miles then 2.200 miles at week, so that way probably I'll have the check a lil bigger.
My only thought was always that “yes If I work for prime for 5 years I can have a house a car and etc.” but!!! I trust myself physiologically and driving! When you train, you drive for 11 hrs and sleep when the student is driving (eventually). “you are putting someone in your truck and putting your life in their hands (new driver), and hoping for the best! Again, “you don’t know their background and you don’t know how well they can handle the road! To me Prime nor any company pays enough for me to lay in my bunk and not know if I’m going to wake up again! I have been a driver for many years, yes! Ups and downs! But I know at the end of the day my life and my safety are always in my hands! And believe me, an accident can happen to anyone including me. but at the end, at least my family will be able to be comfortable knowing that I did everything possible to survive! In my opinion it is really messed up and wrong that truck drivers has to go through so much bullshit (being a trainer) to make a decent check! Again just my opinion!
I will tell you this as a trainer....you will know in the first hour if you can trust the person that you are training. There are more things to consider but that is why when I take a student for the team training, I super solo the first load so I can see if they are a good safe driver and I feel comfortable sleeping while they are driving. I can tell you from my own experience that you will not get a lot of sleep with a student. I told mine wake me up if you need me. He only woke me up a couple of times. For the most part I recommend if you are going to train that you take them through the student driver part and then the teaming. Mainly because you are getting someone else's student. they are going to argue with you about things like how to setup in order to back in because they were taught a certain way by the first trainer. That is a real life experience btw. Good luck with training.
Thanks for the info!
To put the time off into perspective. Taking 9 weeks off sounds like a lot. Working a normal 40 hour a week job, you will take almost 15 weeks a year off in just weekends. Most jobs also include 2-4 weeks of vacation and maybe some type of paid sick leave. I get 4 weeks of vacation, 2 weeks of paid sick leave, and two weeks of holiday time off per year. So, I take off ~23 weeks per year, ~8 of them are paid. The rest are weekends.
If you figure up the amount of hours worked per week as a truck driver it typically comes out to 80+ hours, if you are including all worked hours. Even the ones you don't log. I was working 100+ hours per week when I was a driver. When you start figuring that you are working 2-3 jobs and calculate your hourly rate, trucking sucks. That is why I left the industry.
Johnny Bill interesting cuz you cant work more than 70hrs a week lol
I'm glad this works for you, and the point I'm making, is that I don't see doing a lease-purchase where you made $183K but paid back $110K in fixed costs. If you kept that truck for 4 yrs you would have paid $228K back to Prime just for the truck. Again I'm not making an argument, and I'm glad it's working for you, but I couldn't do it after adding up and looking at the numbers.
It’s a 3 year lease and you get money back after three years Based on condition of the vehicle 25k is not uncommon for a well token care of truck, sadly leasing is not perfect anywhere in my opinion this has just been my best experience so far my end game is what did I put in my pocket and how much control did I have.
@@CrazyBags i understand, and like i said I'm glad you have got it to where it works for you. Be careful out there and Merry Christmas to you & yours!!
I was certain I wanted to be a company driver, but this has convinced me to do lease operator
I make that driving locally and get to sleep in my bed every night and off on the weekends
jeremy chastain
I pulled a frameless dump for ten years. Slept in my own bed every night. I prefer being over the road and waking up in my truck instead of driving to work every morning.
Of course you did, after taxes you took home $1400 a week? I call bs!
I make more than that, never leaving the house, sitting on my laptop all day doing code. Screw that! That low ass pay is why millennials don't want to drive. I'm not a millennial, but I completely understand why the trucking industry is getting old.
@@TellNoL437 no! Millenials are a bunch of spoiled self entitled crying pieces of shit, that's why millennials dont want to drive
Same
That's not bad, that's about the same maybe slightly less than what I earn driving a tanker in the oilfield after taxes. It sounds like you probably get a little more time off than I do, but I'm home every night. Trade-offs
I was in the oildfield last year. Looking to get back into it. Do you know any companies hiring women and either provide housing or let you sleep in the truck? I'm interested in temporary housing
@@realjennifermartin
The short answer, depends. A lot depends on smarch and rights as applies to your what area of the country you want to work in. The more difficult hurdle is finding a company that will take you with little or no experience in oilfield Trucking. While there are some companies that may avoid hiring women, I think they're just as many more that will hire a woman just to show that they are an equal opportunity employer. Many companies want one to two years of oil field Trucking experience before they will hire you, so where do you get the experience is always the question. The best bet is to find a smaller companies that are more flexible and sometimes are more needy and finding a driver quickly. Of course this creates greater risk and having steady employment though. It is easy to get into a situation where they need drivers this month and will hire you, but by next month they're short on work and guess who's the first to go. If you're serious about getting into the oil field work though even a month experience will help to get the next job, and then the next. I have been lucky and stumbled into a pretty good outfit to work for and have stayed with my first oil field job for 7 years. That is pretty unusual. Good luck!
@@rockymntnliberty of course. I worked for pro-petro in tanker hauling acid for 7 months with no experience prior in trucking. I had just gotten my license when I got hired and on. I worked in the oilfield straight from getting my license for a year. I did fueling and acid. I may need to look outside of Texas. Thanks for responding. Very helpful info
@@Jenn27
The other thing to consider is relocating. That was a benefit for me as I was willing to relocate to wherever the work was. I got lucky and found a job right exactly in the place in the world I wanted to live. And wound up back in Wyoming. I work long hours but I'm home every night and make about three times what I made driving a truck over the road. Making pretty good money but being away from home for weeks at a time just isn't as appealing.
@@rockymntnliberty crazy you mention Wyoming. I've been hearing there's work there. I relocated to texas and worked. I'm from Alabama. I don't care about the relocation part 🙂😁
Hey man my brother works for prime, and he’s going lease op, told me I should too, started watching videos, came across your channel... eye opener man, thank you so much for the information! I think I’m going to prime haha! Wouldn’t that be funny if you were my trainer too haha
Sadly I won’t be I have been gone a year but highly recommend them still !!! Best of luck
Yep national carrier fixed cost was 1300 a week after everything was added up i leased with them for a while before i bought a truck
I am with KLLM now and I can honestly say there is a BIG difference!
Daniel Baird Better or worse at KLLM?
@@craigc515 let's just say I dont hear about Prime being a bad company....
I'm confused, you seemed to be doing well with Prime, why did you leave if it's ok to ask?
@@craigc515 I have yet to go there. I will soon!
Cost went down since 2000.Was team lease post prime.decent trk.too much nickel and dime.make more revenue as my own authority
Good video. I'm made my mind up to finally go get my CDL in January . I'm just stuck in between going to local 5 week school for $3500 or just go to prime and get it there.
You don't see a lot prime drivers in the long run. Remember 2017and 2018 had the best trucking rates in 30+ years
$1200 literally would pay all my household bills! Great video sir!
ori bless hirschbach paid that company guaranteed
Thank you for the information. I'm looking at different companies now. Leaning toward prime.
I was there for 15yrs....go to another company....dont lease...contract forces you to train people wth lil to no exp and you are liable for all damage student does...if there not home you are liable for all when student is part of your training even after 1 yr off trk you are still liable of what they do in there 1st trk for a whole yr
Thanx bra!!!! For the information I’m a new subscriber....getting closer to prime missed her call on Friday...so need to wait till Monday lol ... see you around 🤙🏽
Prime is really an awesome company. I just couldn’t do it because of my night vision. I have a bad eye and have no depth perception at night. So paring and docking is almost impossible for me. I would love to drive for prime if it wasn’t for that.
Can you still drive cdl with one bad eye... i have glocouma in one eye.. and its tuff seeing at night sometimes
Do drive trucks??
Do you drive trucks joe??
@@kaner8612 not right now. Thinking of going back to it.
The mega carriers suck a little more work you can clear 24.000.00 to 36.000.00 a month after expenses.
I RESPECT THE HONESTY..💯💯
Well said sir
Thanks very much
Living in a truck you better be making big bucks dedicating all your time to the company.
For me this has worked out great I can see how owning a truck works better for others,everyone has differant goals mine is to make 6 figures and this year I will achieve that with prime it took training to reach it but was getting close solo also
So if you become a trainer you make a lot more money ?
Do you think be a trainer helps a lot when you lease a truck ?
Very nice.
CrazyBags
Hey brother can I have your email. I’m interested in the prime program
You’re doing well but you’re getting ripped off at 1065$ a week for the truck! You can easily get a truck at 1000$ a MONTH, a great truck also. You’d cut your costs and keep 5k a month more in your pocket
I know! Imagine keeping $1065 a week and owning your own truck with no payment! I’m not giving away all that money
Good for you crazy bags I'm happy for you making all that money Keep On Truckin they call me the Lone Wolf takecare baby
Thanks for the info and stay safe on the road.
Thank you. Putting it out there clear and simple...appreciate the candor!
I posted my paystubs on my channel as a company reefer driver... took 7 weeks off for surgery plus hometime.... and made $72,645. AND I have health, vision, life and disabikity insirance PLUs paid sick leave vacation dental and made $5000 in Prime paying into my 401k. And company drivers average 55cpm in reefer divison due to all the bonuses...fuel, on time delivery, safety.... not including all my rewarss points and free stuff.
Good video, pretty clear and concise. Thank you.
Great, honest video! Learned a lot!
Excellent Video Thank you !!
Thank you. I have been talking Prime up to the hubs. I just had a feeling they are the right fit for him.
I’m new to your channel and I like what you said about prime
Good video.. it's helping me make a decision on witch way to go company or lease...🤠
Lease is the way to go!
I wanna be something greater, and travel...and if I get to call my truck Prime...get my Autobot sticker and slap it on! Tired of the mundane jobs I work now!
Good video brother
Thanks for the breakdown and your video. I didn’t know you guys got paid percentage not mileage. I see why it don’t matter you all creeping on the highway with all us blazing by your trucks.
Can’t you write off some if you’re expenses?
Fuel economy and corporate fuel discounts are game changers that's why company drivers are governed at max 62 on cruise and 58 on the floor
I know a guy who was a lease operator at Swift and he was screwed big time. He was making so many payments that he was taking home no money. He was basically working for free.
Great video I learned alot by watching your videos keep them coming in
You sound like a good guy !Good luck and be safe......
No mention of his overhead (insurance, PM, Etc.)
I think getting a couple years experience OTR then switching to a local driving job where youre home every night making decent cash is way more desirable.
I don't disagree with you that’s almost always a goal for most people and very achievable
I'm a tanker company driver and I make more than that in a week
Who gives a fuck
Lies , and if you do its gotta be hazmat and have like 5 years exp lol
@@mbekka1 food grade 21 years experience
@@ELYSIUM555 you do you poor bastard
@@mikegallaty7329 true
Maintenance? Road service calls? Tires? Why is that not added in?
All Prime lease trucks are 3 years old or less and are under warranty until the lease is up, there is no maintenance account, tire fund is .04 a mile I think
@@CrazyBags are you saying maintenance is free or the cost is up to the driver?
It’s up to the driver
Oil changes
Glass repairs
Stuff like that
@@CrazyBags Thats what I thought. Funny how that was ommitted from this guys video.
That’s my video lol
At dart transportation my fixed cost including truck 2018 T680 is only 106.00 per day which is 742.00 per week would be much less if I took a older truck
Been driving for Old Dominion since 96 and I think I'll stay. Bless anyone who likes who they drive for.
Very informative as always. I know this is not recent but still is great info.
Hey glad you break it all down ..
I am coming at the end of January hope I get a good trainer
Richard Dill Headed to Springfield myself on 2/4.....Good Luck! Greg
Thanks
Does the truck payment include the insurance?
Yes
I'm hoping when hubby gets to upgrade, he will do this well. I can't imagine a grand a week. We are used to 600 to 800 every 2 weeks.
I appreciate this video thank you
Thank you for your HONESTY about the game. I've asked a friend whose a team lease purchase operator and he gives vague answers but shows a lot of money on Facebook videos.
Team lease here have the potential to make a lot of money, I know of a married team that consistently take home over 6k after expenses but that’s not every teams experience I hear.
@@CrazyBags they're cousins who are team operators for prime inc. I ask what's the average and I get vague answers but he tells me the payments a week are crazy. Says the payments are $850. I've heard worse payments than that lol. Plus, he's teamed with a relative so I know that $850 payment is split between the 2. That part isn't so bad
i live in new hampshire where would I go for the academy and how would my journey go.
Pittston,PA terminal and yes they hire out of that area
just sent my app in and used you for a referral
How can the taxes only be 10000? Are you sure you got it all? Only the employee taxes are closer to 30%?
I went to prime for the psd program and enjoyed it i was with a lease operator and he said he made over 200k the year before I got on his truck. Unfortunately we pulled back into Springfield ready to test and I had a tooth that needed pulled out. So went and did that then I had some family issues that pulled me out of driving and my trainer told me to get it taken care of and come back cuz I would've trifectad. It's one of the things I want to get back into but now I have 2 kids under 4 and a wife and I cant be gone for 7 weeks just for 1 week at home
So you couldn't hack it.
I couldn’t do lease I know I like being home a lot I’m saving to buy a use truck next year
Would you recommend leasing the 1st year straight out of training?
-DON'T
Nice video, good info. Thanks so much. Coming to Prime very soon. Got a decision to make.
Thanks for info.
Is there a big need for drivers??
Always
Great video..
I cant wait to start on the 3rd of September.
You should go to system transport doing flatbed I made 62000 last screw that lease shit I'm a company driver and love it
Do you pay a penalty, for overage of miles on your lease truck?
What about straight O/O coming to prime? I’m looking for videos and can’t find any just lease ops...
Great info, thank you
How much do they ask for a down payment for a lease purchase?
Why don’t truck drivers get together and pitch in money to start a fund,so we can go out and get a lobbying firm to lobby on our behalf,to Congress, to get rid of some of these rules the impose on us. Imagine if all truck drivers did this how we can buy Congress like the companies we work for do.
OOIDA
Imagine you waking up.
REALLY good information
How much do you put away from maintenance how much do you put away for a vacation and how much do you take out for taxes
Average maintenance cost per year?
Does anyone know how much Prime pays per empty mile as a lease OP? Is there a minimum you need to drive empty in order to be paid for those miles?
Great video!! Thanks for sharing. Did you make one of these for 2018?
Thank you
If you don't want a life back at home and you want to be awake long hours training perfect strangers, then by all means leasing will make you money. Don't forget to set aside your quarterly taxes. When you go home for home time, that truck payment still comes out. When the truck is broke down, that truck payment still comes out. You're going to buy all the fuel too.
Great video 👍
Take 5 percent put it in savings account that gets interest make money saving money
Do you get to pick your own loads?
Not really you can refuse a load and get a new one but it’s not like you see a load board
is your lease payment and fuel tax deductible ???????
Yes
Thx crazy bags. Im new to industry, prime invited me to the schooling and im also applied 1 other place trying to decide on which company, prime or the other one, and them company vs lease. Are any lease ops force dispatched? Or just company? And is the pay by load (not miles) a lease op thing? Im fearful of being. Company,.mile, force, then getting stuck in traffic, or with shippers who load/unload when it suits them... again being new, im trying to understand it all Great vid thx
No forced dispatch for lease and the % pay is for lease, company drivers are paid by the mile, the choice between company and lease is always a tough one and I highly recommend new drivers start company and work on putting together a system that makes them successful before leasing
CrazyBags awesome. I truly appreciate the response and straight forward experience you share. I do feel much more at ease to focus my first year on just getting a good foundation and then decide if I want to up the stakes, sotospeak. (With greater reward is greater responsibility! ). Lol. Cheers