I have the Milwaukee version. I like it very much. I store a serrated blade in the handle so I have that option readily available adding one more option.
I have the Milwaukee and absolutely love it! I use all the features almost daily and it’s lasted 3 years and is still going strong. The internal blade storage and always having both a Phillips and flat blade driver with me is huge. I wouldn’t want to just have a Phillips as the flat head comes in handy for removing light switch plates, etc.
@@Jared-Kreateit is hard to get it out. I can usually use my house key at an angle and pry it far enough out to get it. It does get frustrating sometimes. Glad I’m not the only one.
Did they finally do-away with that ball bearing retention system they were using on the Milwaukee Fastback? I have an older model with no ball bearing and one with the ball bearing. The one with the bearing was shite and the bearing would come out rendering the screwdriver bit useless. I'm hoping Milwaukee went back to the original bit retention system.
I was a concrete foundations guy for 20 years and a carpenter love Klein plyers for tieing rebar and more. I always carried those 2 inch extensions when I could in my screwdrivers, everything so I always had one on hand for a impact and the head seem to be just so much tougher than a normal screwdriver it just made sense to bring those in my screwdrivers with replaceable heads, I even got one for my Ranger grip 79 Swiss army knife I have modded for a screwdriver
Nice review as always. I really have a fetish for certain tools Pretty much pliers, screwdrivers, and utility knives. Don't have a Klein yet emphasis on yet😁 ) but love the 3 iterations of the Milwaukee Fastbacks I have. Of course ,my 30+ year old fixed blade Craftsman still cuts stuff.😉 I agree with you on those 2" drivers. Magnetic holders notwithstanding, the stubbies drive me nuts
I have the Milwaukee and have carried it for a good while (at least a year, I think). I have not carried the Klein. My biggest issue with the Klein, based on just looking at it, is that the screwdriver is not centered in the handle. I actually *use* the Milwaukee as a screwdriver when I don't happen to have a conventional screwdriver in my pocket, and it works well. Having a flat blade and a phillips open up a lot of possibilities. I honestly use mine as a screwdriver more than I use it as a knife - it's that good as a screwdriver.
The FastBack doesn't have magnetic retention, it has a snap ring (at least mine does). Another nice feature of the FastBack is it will accept and hold Wiha double ended bits, would be curious if the Klein Could hold them as well.
how strong is the drive pivot on the klein? on milwaukee, it is very solid since the steel plates are well present. it is a bit hard to see in the video how the klein does, i do see steel internal plates, but how good is it at that area? i do like the extension bit compatibility, do wish the milwaukee had it, so many times the small bits just wont reach in even those very shallow screw holes, only good for surface screws.
My big issuw with the milwaukee is that the bit hold with thaf retention ring does not hold other bits very well. The milwaukee fastback with small knipex and a railer bit set would meet many of my on the go repair needs. That is if it held the bits properly. Anyone have any suggestions?
I dont like the retention. They should function and be engineered like any other push button folder. Dont even get me started on the pocket clip not being reversible either left to right or tip up/tip down. Bought a Otacle U1 and never looked back. The bit driver isn't even a factor.
I carried my Milwaukee everyday at work for years now, still works perfectly fine. The features the Klein has over the Fastback are irrelevant to me, while the apparent lack of a lock for the driver is a no-go. Thanks for the comparison, Ben.
I just don't need or want a bit driver built into my utility knife and prefer said utility knife to be as unobtrusive as I can get because I have a pocket organizer in my pocket that I need to reach past my utility knife for. With that being said if I was forced to choose between the two I would take the Klein hands down, because I absolutely refuse to ever buy carry or use anything with an integral cap lifter cut / built into it with the exception of folding implements on a multitool...etc. Putting cap lifters into everything is the dumbest thing ever and I cannot stand it, I don't drink nor do I buy glass bottle soda. I don't need or want a cap lifter and I don't think a single person would ever be effected buy not having a cap lifter built into their utility knife or pry tool keychain or whatever it may be. There are countless well known easy and effective ways to open a bottle without one, so many things have an edge you can use and it's not going to kill you if opening a bottle is less than effortless. If Klein would offer a slightly trimmer model with no bit driver like the Milwaukee I carry I'd absolutely make the switch.
If your Milwaukee ends up missing....since it has a bottle opener the bricklayers probably got it ....look for the beat up van or follow the weed smell
I'm happy to see you back making TH-cam videos
Same!
Did he even stop??
I have the Milwaukee version. I like it very much. I store a serrated blade in the handle so I have that option readily available adding one more option.
I have the Milwaukee and absolutely love it! I use all the features almost daily and it’s lasted 3 years and is still going strong. The internal blade storage and always having both a Phillips and flat blade driver with me is huge. I wouldn’t want to just have a Phillips as the flat head comes in handy for removing light switch plates, etc.
What about the blade storage tho? I can’t get my extra blade out without pliers. Is that normal? Super frustrating
@@Jared-Kreateit is hard to get it out. I can usually use my house key at an angle and pry it far enough out to get it. It does get frustrating sometimes. Glad I’m not the only one.
Did they finally do-away with that ball bearing retention system they were using on the Milwaukee Fastback? I have an older model with no ball bearing and one with the ball bearing. The one with the bearing was shite and the bearing would come out rendering the screwdriver bit useless. I'm hoping Milwaukee went back to the original bit retention system.
The blade storage and double side bit does it for the milwaukee.
Fastback by my side for years. Nothing going to replace it.
I was a concrete foundations guy for 20 years and a carpenter love Klein plyers for tieing rebar and more.
I always carried those 2 inch extensions when I could in my screwdrivers, everything so I always had one on hand for a impact and the head seem to be just so much tougher than a normal screwdriver it just made sense to bring those in my screwdrivers with replaceable heads, I even got one for my Ranger grip 79 Swiss army knife I have modded for a screwdriver
Love both of them!
Great video!
Milwaukee also has a slot next to the blade to stick a tape end in for scribing
Nice review as always. I really have a fetish for certain tools Pretty much pliers, screwdrivers, and utility knives. Don't have a Klein yet emphasis on yet😁 ) but love the 3 iterations of the Milwaukee Fastbacks I have. Of course ,my 30+ year old fixed blade Craftsman still cuts stuff.😉
I agree with you on those 2" drivers. Magnetic holders notwithstanding, the stubbies drive me nuts
I've always liked the Milwaukee. Might have to try out the Klein Tools version. Thanks for the comparison.
I have the Milwaukee and have carried it for a good while (at least a year, I think). I have not carried the Klein. My biggest issue with the Klein, based on just looking at it, is that the screwdriver is not centered in the handle. I actually *use* the Milwaukee as a screwdriver when I don't happen to have a conventional screwdriver in my pocket, and it works well. Having a flat blade and a phillips open up a lot of possibilities. I honestly use mine as a screwdriver more than I use it as a knife - it's that good as a screwdriver.
From Project Farms Testing I have the Fiskars Pro Utility Blade
The FastBack doesn't have magnetic retention, it has a snap ring (at least mine does). Another nice feature of the FastBack is it will accept and hold Wiha double ended bits, would be curious if the Klein Could hold them as well.
Another informative video - thanks!
Great video! I’d take the Milwaukee.
Idk, for my utility blade needs, I just use a Hawk Shortcut
8:40 the Milwaukee has the jimping on the handle. Works just the same.
Thank you.
how strong is the drive pivot on the klein? on milwaukee, it is very solid since the steel plates are well present. it is a bit hard to see in the video how the klein does, i do see steel internal plates, but how good is it at that area?
i do like the extension bit compatibility, do wish the milwaukee had it, so many times the small bits just wont reach in even those very shallow screw holes, only good for surface screws.
My big issuw with the milwaukee is that the bit hold with thaf retention ring does not hold other bits very well. The milwaukee fastback with small knipex and a railer bit set would meet many of my on the go repair needs. That is if it held the bits properly. Anyone have any suggestions?
Milwaukee.
The screwdriver being in the center makes a big difference.
I own both and the Milwaukee is better.
2:42 Sloted Phillips and 1/4” nut driver.
You are correct. I forgot the quarter inch nut driver on both models
Is the klien any thinner than the milwaukee?
Virtually indistinguishable from one another in size and weight.
The milwaukee screwdriver is centred on the axis, the kline is offset. Centred is better.
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I dont like the retention. They should function and be engineered like any other push button folder. Dont even get me started on the pocket clip not being reversible either left to right or tip up/tip down. Bought a Otacle U1 and never looked back. The bit driver isn't even a factor.
I carried my Milwaukee everyday at work for years now, still works perfectly fine. The features the Klein has over the Fastback are irrelevant to me, while the apparent lack of a lock for the driver is a no-go.
Thanks for the comparison, Ben.
I love the milwaukee except, to me, it opens like 1°-2° too far
Milwaukee because was first
Irwin FK250
The klein knife feels cheap and the pocket clip digs into your hand when using it
Bottle opener. 'Nuff said.
The way Klein miss the double bit is a big fail
Kobalt...just as good and cheaper...I've had 2 and used every day for almost 20 years
I just don't need or want a bit driver built into my utility knife and prefer said utility knife to be as unobtrusive as I can get because I have a pocket organizer in my pocket that I need to reach past my utility knife for.
With that being said if I was forced to choose between the two I would take the Klein hands down, because I absolutely refuse to ever buy carry or use anything with an integral cap lifter cut / built into it with the exception of folding implements on a multitool...etc.
Putting cap lifters into everything is the dumbest thing ever and I cannot stand it, I don't drink nor do I buy glass bottle soda.
I don't need or want a cap lifter and I don't think a single person would ever be effected buy not having a cap lifter built into their utility knife or pry tool keychain or whatever it may be.
There are countless well known easy and effective ways to open a bottle without one, so many things have an edge you can use and it's not going to kill you if opening a bottle is less than effortless.
If Klein would offer a slightly trimmer model with no bit driver like the Milwaukee I carry I'd absolutely make the switch.
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Husky. It’s like $5
If your Milwaukee ends up missing....since it has a bottle opener the bricklayers probably got it ....look for the beat up van or follow the weed smell