I have a smd cc1 love it, it does great for setting crossover and pretty simple to use and recommend, and then I just figured out that the taramp md series will play full range and does a great job at it would recommend for a power door full of speakers
I disconnect the sub, turn off the filter, hook up a dmm to the disconnected speaker wires at the sub then play a sine wave test tone half an octave below my ported enclosure's tuning frequency. I take note of the AC voltage. I multiply that voltage by .708 to get my 3db down target voltage. I begin turning on the subsonic filter until the voltage starts to go down and stop turning once I arrive at my target voltage. I'm new to car audio, I tried this out and it seems to work for me so far.
Hell yeah, just keep doing you. Your videos have helped tons of people. Even stupid guys like me, you explain it so I can understand. Thanks to you I’ve got the loudest 10s, in my little circle of friends. Everyone says they sound like 12s. Every time you have a tip or suggestions I go and play with my system. Just got to say pretty much everything has helped me. If you don’t know you don’t know. But you got to be careful about who you listen to. I’m gonna stick with you. No bull sh1t
A subsonic and LPF are not a instant cut off point it all depends on the db slope for the crossover.. some may have a 18 db or 24db and 12db cross over and how steep the roll off is so your subs will play higher then lpf setting it just gets quieter as it gets farther away
I just run my crossovers for my mids on my pioneer 2017-2021 model it has a crossover for subwoofer settings but u can turn off the subwoofer crossover on these newer pioneer headunits and just run settings from your Korean amps that's how I run mines works great 👍 sounds amazing
I always done and was told to set subsonic to 10hz below port tuning. Or until you lose cone control. I never had a problem doin it that way. So if my tuning was 30hz I set to 20hz to start and go down from there. What you think??
Subsonic filters start limiting output a little before rated/stated. I tested my crescendo bc series amp., and all the way down says 10Hz, like jerry said his amp does in this video. Even though it says 10 Hz with the dial turned off/all the way down, it was starting to limit output @ 14 Hz a little, 13 Hz was noticeably more limiting on power. Also, i like setting the subsonic, by using an SPL meter. Example: turn up a 150 Db capable system, to around 130 Db (set SPL meter to real time = not peak), using a constant test tone, @ 0 to 10 Hz below enclosures tune, set to repeat, then just watch the SPL meter, as you slowly turn the freq. up on the subsonic dial, until you reduce the SPL output 1 to 3 Db, so the meter is showing 127 to 129 Db, from 130 Db, @ 0 to 10 Hz below tune of your enclosure. If you want to be the safest on these settings, i suggest -3 Db of output @ your enclosure tunning= for high/over rated, powered systems. If you are running say half rated power to your subwoofers, maybe set subsonic, -1 Db, @ 10 Hz below tunning. Hope this helps? Have a great day, fellow bass heads!
I set my sub sonic and lpf with a multi meter at the speaker terminals, I set a tone at my lowest comfortable frequency and watch the voltage and see when it starts to pull the power back, and really I dont wet my. Lpf just cut it all the way up I don't play anything above 45hz
They normally use bass boost on a sealed enclosure? Now remember the old school amplifiers didn't have a bass boost frequency just treble and bass and gain?
20hrtz-250hrtz range if its oldschool p3s my babies!! tho 28 is rated in their enviroment box, amps excetra. And highhllyyy!!! looked at, onlyy started all from physics, all from paper and computer through physics. Is rockford fosgates way of makeing.. but the specs is a rating (tho as for what they know physics says its to be then they make it) so its enginered phenomonaly id say tho i deff hit lower the 28 bro i built a box for my 4 p3s and i neevverrr thought id see my p3s exurt as much as they have!!! I suggest diff box or if u have a 28hrtz tuned box the tune is off unlessss lmao ur talking of models under the p3 then i couldnt say anything as i really diss like them... p3 and up is true punch. Tho people have made p1s hit killer and as well i have never made a box for p1s.. so it very well could be up there with p3. But ive owned my p3s ever since 18 im now 27 and ive never seen any of my friends systems out perform mine in the low end/ spl /loudness. P3s and up be phenominal
Hopefully I get some information on this but I have a eighth GEN Civic sedan I have two 12 75 series MTX they each have their own 1000 W amp tuned right but the thing is the shop is tuning it with no subsonic because he said because I have a trunk type of enclosure you don’t need a filter but say if I had like a open hatch then yeah I should’ve asked more but hopefully you guys get what I’m saying
With the bass boost on the amp, what would cause the bass to be very faint with it off vs window flexing bass when it's on? Only have decent bass with the bass boost turned on? Amp is skar rp 800.1. 2 memphis bass reference 10s sealed, wired to 1ohm. Gains set to a lil bit under half, lpf 125 - 130hz only on amp. Sub Sonic 33-35hz
Quick question I use the headunit crossover at 50hz and set it at 35hz on the amp my box is tuned to 27hz 34hz is my peak does that sound like a good setting
U should try to set your crossovers from your amps lpf with subsonic turn off. With subwoofer crossover turned off on your kenwood head unit if u can turn it off? idont think the kenwoods have that feature. Then maybe I think u will lose control at 10hz 😆
Lolol the "everybody" that you know that dont use bass boost, is the very few to me heard as for out here in canada omg... its brutal how much people are like ohh bass boost bass boosstt!!!... its messed aha
And do ur subs even makee 10 hrtz in specs? Ino my buddy has a svs thats said to be i think it was 17 hrtz it made 16 anything else lower it just start tto chuff i think it was. But it definatly did work to its speakers specs./ responded in ways witch physics proves with waves, of course dependent the ohms and voltage and other properties. But i have seen that in physics to power it is dropping it. To make any headroom. A amp is built to push power tho theres nuthing but waves and to it its math so it has to show zeroes sumwer. So im sortta tryn to say sure it can be in a signal but how much tho triple that, double it, qaud it, keep going to all the power u have it is to be down, so it needs more then we think or id say one narrow ass output mad peak or vice versa dependent on ohms/ have to put the qaulity factor in too/ sentivities preamp stage.. everything .. inorder to push the power to there dependent ur ohms ur power nd again everything above Nd box and place ments losses as well. physics proves it and physics made it.. made everything.. but im saying all this as to im prety sure physics would truly show u how to hit the 10 herts i mean .. 40 hrtz convulted to the 11th power is levitation/force. So with thinking about that^ i would say u need quite a bit more power or the crossovers are not working with as well the bass knob
And i say bas knob becauuseee a potentiometer is controll tho dont qoute me on it look up audio control with potentiometers! As for its all power but within crossovers and raised or droped within powers so i feel its not enough power and or if the sub is not rated well then its gunna blow before so i would think. And im not saying anything to undermine anyone or to say no or anything tho i am saying what i truly know as i maybe building a killer bass knob here but yee theres much more then we think to a potentiometer expeciallyyy!! If its say any made ones wer ur seing ppl in the reviews saying "my pod makes full power at half and but quieter at full/ many more diferent times of power/ characteristics as its basiiccally a nother crossover.. its all crosses in its mind so how much power is there really there? Nd i mean in physics wise as for it could very well be u do need more power as for "We do have to drop inorder, to make a degree of anything/ from start , from anything, to anything but sooo much more. And im not familliar with some terms/words so my explanation may be off but i for sure know exactly what im meaning and in time im going to be proving these facts and soo much more to the truth to it all as most only know what the truee toold is telling them but do we really!.. know physics?
@@JerryAintloud ohh kk i get wat u sayin nd i know u do ahaha just i meaning in power through physics u have to get to a power to make a power, but im not meaning u dont u very well could tho. But thinkin bout how much it takes to cycle sumthing u can up it over the case. So im rlly meaning like poossible chance u havent hit that power as in "still posssibly need more power, to make that power but not only make as well to phase that power over through time but thats lots of power if its down so it has to have evenn morree power, and be able to takee that power the subs.
I have a smd cc1 love it, it does great for setting crossover and pretty simple to use and recommend, and then I just figured out that the taramp md series will play full range and does a great job at it would recommend for a power door full of speakers
I disconnect the sub, turn off the filter, hook up a dmm to the disconnected speaker wires at the sub then play a sine wave test tone half an octave below my ported enclosure's tuning frequency. I take note of the AC voltage. I multiply that voltage by .708 to get my 3db down target voltage. I begin turning on the subsonic filter until the voltage starts to go down and stop turning once I arrive at my target voltage. I'm new to car audio, I tried this out and it seems to work for me so far.
Hell yeah, just keep doing you. Your videos have helped tons of people. Even stupid guys like me, you explain it so I can understand. Thanks to you I’ve got the loudest 10s, in my little circle of friends. Everyone says they sound like 12s. Every time you have a tip or suggestions I go and play with my system. Just got to say pretty much everything has helped me. If you don’t know you don’t know. But you got to be careful about who you listen to. I’m gonna stick with you. No bull sh1t
A subsonic and LPF are not a instant cut off point it all depends on the db slope for the crossover.. some may have a 18 db or 24db and 12db cross over and how steep the roll off is so your subs will play higher then lpf setting it just gets quieter as it gets farther away
Rockford Fosgate came out with bass boost first for car stereo's back in the 70s
You should make a video on how slope works on your headunit when it goes from -12 to -24
I listen to your videos all the time man, great content! And appreciate the skoolin 💯
Infransonic filter on my set up cleaned my by bass so much on a fosgate power series amp I was running it off for a while
I just run my crossovers for my mids on my pioneer 2017-2021 model it has a crossover for subwoofer settings but u can turn off the subwoofer crossover on these newer pioneer headunits and just run settings from your Korean amps that's how I run mines works great 👍 sounds amazing
I always done and was told to set subsonic to 10hz below port tuning. Or until you lose cone control. I never had a problem doin it that way. So if my tuning was 30hz I set to 20hz to start and go down from there. What you think??
Chris has had some really badass builds and has world titles also very awesome dude and as always Jerry good content keep it coming brother 💪
Subsonic filters start limiting output a little before rated/stated. I tested my crescendo bc series amp., and all the way down says 10Hz, like jerry said his amp does in this video. Even though it says 10 Hz with the dial turned off/all the way down, it was starting to limit output @ 14 Hz a little, 13 Hz was noticeably more limiting on power. Also, i like setting the subsonic, by using an SPL meter. Example: turn up a 150 Db capable system, to around 130 Db (set SPL meter to real time = not peak), using a constant test tone, @ 0 to 10 Hz below enclosures tune, set to repeat, then just watch the SPL meter, as you slowly turn the freq. up on the subsonic dial, until you reduce the SPL output 1 to 3 Db, so the meter is showing 127 to 129 Db, from 130 Db, @ 0 to 10 Hz below tune of your enclosure. If you want to be the safest on these settings, i suggest -3 Db of output @ your enclosure tunning= for high/over rated, powered systems. If you are running say half rated power to your subwoofers, maybe set subsonic, -1 Db, @ 10 Hz below tunning. Hope this helps? Have a great day, fellow bass heads!
I set my sub sonic and lpf with a multi meter at the speaker terminals, I set a tone at my lowest comfortable frequency and watch the voltage and see when it starts to pull the power back, and really I dont wet my. Lpf just cut it all the way up I don't play anything above 45hz
I'm learning everyday, my subsonic is at it's low...15
Ive always done the mids and highs from headunits unless the mids are upgraded then id do a mid range amp thats all
They normally use bass boost on a sealed enclosure? Now remember the old school amplifiers didn't have a bass boost frequency just treble and bass and gain?
Good video jerry great explanation
A good tech should be able to mod your amps to disable the SSF
I was always taught to turn the lpf to the lowest setting.
Low pass it the high bass cut off. subsonic is the low bass cut off.
@@JerryAintloud i understand now. I was always under the impression that if I set it to 35 then everything 35 and up would play.
Yeah I really love the lows and everybody’s telling me to cut my filter on. But Rockford make the cut off at 28 😩I’m missing out on all kinds of lows
20hrtz-250hrtz range if its oldschool p3s my babies!!
tho 28 is rated in their enviroment box, amps excetra. And highhllyyy!!! looked at, onlyy started all from physics, all from paper and computer through physics. Is rockford fosgates way of makeing.. but the specs is a rating (tho as for what they know physics says its to be then they make it) so its enginered phenomonaly id say tho i deff hit lower the 28 bro i built a box for my 4 p3s and i neevverrr thought id see my p3s exurt as much as they have!!! I suggest diff box or if u have a 28hrtz tuned box the tune is off unlessss lmao ur talking of models under the p3 then i couldnt say anything as i really diss like them... p3 and up is true punch. Tho people have made p1s hit killer and as well i have never made a box for p1s.. so it very well could be up there with p3. But ive owned my p3s ever since 18 im now 27 and ive never seen any of my friends systems out perform mine in the low end/ spl /loudness. P3s and up be phenominal
Ric flair drip has low lows my p3s hit it
@jefferioli2261
My JL audio HD1200/1 subsonic filter is set to 30hz which is awful. I leave it switched off. If I leave it on, its cutting out too much
Hopefully I get some information on this but I have a eighth GEN Civic sedan I have two 12 75 series MTX they each have their own 1000 W amp tuned right but the thing is the shop is tuning it with no subsonic because he said because I have a trunk type of enclosure you don’t need a filter but say if I had like a open hatch then yeah I should’ve asked more but hopefully you guys get what I’m saying
Wonderful information thank you!
What about if your amp doesn't have one
Appreciate it man.
Good facts for sure !
With the bass boost on the amp, what would cause the bass to be very faint with it off vs window flexing bass when it's on? Only have decent bass with the bass boost turned on?
Amp is skar rp 800.1. 2 memphis bass reference 10s sealed, wired to 1ohm. Gains set to a lil bit under half, lpf 125 - 130hz only on amp. Sub Sonic 33-35hz
Have the same issue with my ds18 gfx3k. Never used bass boost ever until i got this amp.
Hello sir question do you sell USB with music and bass songs on them?
Frequencies over 40 Hz I filter out from my Subs.
The head unit u adjust the low mid freq
Need help with a jp8 with clipping on a l7 q class do you think I need a bigger amp
How about a sealed box?
If you have a Lc7i do you adjust the Lc7 or the knobs on the amp?
i'd trust the LC&
Quick question I use the headunit crossover at 50hz and set it at 35hz on the amp my box is tuned to 27hz 34hz is my peak does that sound like a good setting
I'd go 50 on amp also
@@JerryAintloud appreciate it man🫡
So when do you suppose to use the bass boost ?
Never use bass boost 👎🏾👎🏾.. it’s not needed
U should try to set your crossovers from your amps lpf with subsonic turn off. With subwoofer crossover turned off on your kenwood head unit if u can turn it off? idont think the kenwoods have that feature. Then maybe I think u will lose control at 10hz 😆
but the subsonic on my amp doesn't turn off, lowest is 10hz
@@JerryAintloud that's what I mean all the way down
@@HardKnocks160s it's always been all the way down
Lolol the "everybody" that you know that dont use bass boost, is the very few to me heard as for out here in canada omg... its brutal how much people are like ohh bass boost bass boosstt!!!... its messed aha
hey Jerry have you ever run an epicenter? dont even know if there still around
They’re garbage. They just make your music sound muddy
nope I don't really have a need for 1
I would like to see you put Orion Hvac subs in tbere
i need a new head unit, my kenwood x 302 is giving me a rca problem
My new us acustics 8ks don't have bass boost
thank god someone is getting it right
And do ur subs even makee 10 hrtz in specs? Ino my buddy has a svs thats said to be i think it was 17 hrtz it made 16 anything else lower it just start tto chuff i think it was. But it definatly did work to its speakers specs./ responded in ways witch physics proves with waves, of course dependent the ohms and voltage and other properties. But i have seen that in physics to power it is dropping it. To make any headroom. A amp is built to push power tho theres nuthing but waves and to it its math so it has to show zeroes sumwer. So im sortta tryn to say sure it can be in a signal but how much tho triple that, double it, qaud it, keep going to all the power u have it is to be down, so it needs more then we think or id say one narrow ass output mad peak or vice versa dependent on ohms/ have to put the qaulity factor in too/ sentivities preamp stage.. everything .. inorder to push the power to there dependent ur ohms ur power nd again everything above Nd box and place ments losses as well. physics proves it and physics made it.. made everything.. but im saying all this as to im prety sure physics would truly show u how to hit the 10 herts i mean .. 40 hrtz convulted to the 11th power is levitation/force. So with thinking about that^ i would say u need quite a bit more power or the crossovers are not working with as well the bass knob
And i say bas knob becauuseee a potentiometer is controll tho dont qoute me on it look up audio control with potentiometers! As for its all power but within crossovers and raised or droped within powers so i feel its not enough power and or if the sub is not rated well then its gunna blow before so i would think. And im not saying anything to undermine anyone or to say no or anything tho i am saying what i truly know as i maybe building a killer bass knob here but yee theres much more then we think to a potentiometer expeciallyyy!! If its say any made ones wer ur seing ppl in the reviews saying "my pod makes full power at half and but quieter at full/ many more diferent times of power/ characteristics as its basiiccally a nother crossover.. its all crosses in its mind so how much power is there really there? Nd i mean in physics wise as for it could very well be u do need more power as for "We do have to drop inorder, to make a degree of anything/ from start , from anything, to anything but sooo much more. And im not familliar with some terms/words so my explanation may be off but i for sure know exactly what im meaning and in time im going to be proving these facts and soo much more to the truth to it all as most only know what the truee toold is telling them but do we really!.. know physics?
And agian soo much more :) physics is great opertunity once know to the truth
To the truth Of physics*
I have tons of power, but yes I can play 10hz but it's dipped down, because the amps subsonic filtering starts to cut the signal around 12hz.
@@JerryAintloud ohh kk i get wat u sayin nd i know u do ahaha just i meaning in power through physics u have to get to a power to make a power, but im not meaning u dont u very well could tho. But thinkin bout how much it takes to cycle sumthing u can up it over the case. So im rlly meaning like poossible chance u havent hit that power as in "still posssibly need more power, to make that power but not only make as well to phase that power over through time but thats lots of power if its down so it has to have evenn morree power, and be able to takee that power the subs.
See if d4s jp has a new amp that goes lower
Most head units are actually 20hz to 20khz....i would assume your head unit is the same....just sayin👍
that combined with 10hz lowest setting on subsonic it's hard to play low. but I believe my head unit goes lower cus I can play 13hz strong
Its the cc1
Smd makes all the real stuff to save you from blasting subs apart... thats why he has 30,000watts
You are a godthank you
If u have a pioneer
Rightball way down
Crescendo amps read not needed on their amps🤣🤣
Crescendo makes good stuff
Juss turn it off
Simple solution. Mint statement