When I was in school, unlike many of my peers, I loved riding the school bus. Especially in elementary school, it was my favorite part of my day. Besides the friends who rode it with me, there was something about the seat cushions that I was fond of. It was what I call the "Starburst Effect", the typical effect you get when you sit on a vinyl cushion that your hips sink deeply into. I'm talking about the wrinkles that extend from under your hips out, and resemble the spokes of a wheel. I especially think that effect looks great with the legs crossed thigh to thigh.
@@milwaukee1486 The best thing about new school buses is that they have A/C on them, which is long overdue. That should have been made a standard feature in the early 70's. However, the higher seat backs that go above the window sashes incourage kids to stand up to talk to people sitting in front or behind. They're supposed to remain seated, especially when the bus is in motion. I think the seat backs really should only come to just above the bottom of the lower window pain. They need to have seat belts, and there needs to be more legroom between the seats. My longtime girlfriend Harris has a friend named Andria, who is a habitual leg crosser. She absolutely can't sit comfortably without crossing her legs thigh to thigh, or else she gets very restless. When she and Harris were in high school, neither of them were fortunate enough to have their own vehicles. They rode the school bus all the way through high school. They always tried to get a seat together, preferably the "shotgun" seat if it was available. That's the front seat on the starboard side behind the stairwell. Andria had more room to cross her legs. Otherwise, her knee of the leg that was crossed over would be into the padding on the seat back in front. The front seat on the port side behind the driver is the "Troublemakers" seat. That's where I've known school bus drivers to make troublemakers sit to keep an eye on them in the big mirror, and separate them from kids that they'd otherwise bully and pick on. If my girlfriend, who has been heavyset since she became a teenager, had to sit next to someone who wasn't.a friend of hers, she'd get harassed and bullied about how much of the bus seat her hips took up. If she had to sit on the aisle, the other person in the seat would force her to sit hanging over.
When I was a kid and teenager the church I went to had a 1965 Superior conventional, on an International Loadstar chassis. It had a v8 gas engine with 5 speed manual, along with manual brakes and steering. It was a 54 passenger bus. When I first got my license I would get my dad's keys to the church, drive to the church, and get the keys to that bus, and drive it around in the parking lot, practicing shifting and clutching. I wish that bus were around today. I think nowadays the most common school buses that I see here in NJ are Saf-T-Liner C2s, Bluebirds and IC. 30-40 years ago there used to be a lot of Superiors, Waynes and Thomases, and some Bluebirds. Back then they all had gas engines and manual steering, brakes and transmissions.
Nice buses to add to your collection. The transit school buses are great(seen a lot of them at the bus garage my Dad worked at for years). I hope to see a Ford school bus added to your collection with the 5.9 Cummins in it.
You've been looking for years? You can literally buy crown vics for like $500 at police auctions, you could probably piece together the cleanest crown vic around for like $1500
Yeah man, the older 1992-1997 aerobody Crown Vics P71's are super hard to come by, especially clean with no rust and not beat to hell. I have a 1995 Crown Vic P74 civil model. Its not a police package, but i have it fitted like one because i like the way they look better then the civilian look. Its nothing special, but im running a K&N air filter with dual exhaust on the stock 4.6L V8. If you want, you can find my Instagram on it: mikey_automotive I hope you find one man, that would be really cool!
Love the Allison AT545 no lock up trans; engine revving up or down depending how much load it's under. My Hino bus has one; interestingly the engine has an exhaust brake which is almost useless unless you manually change down a gear or two
Now, contractors and FCPS would have had these in their fleets; however, CCBoE (where I went to school) would not; capacity is too large. (CCBoE has a max. cap of 70 pupils per bus - and it has been the case for three decades; PGCPS has the same capacity nowadays.)
The proper name for those wheels are called cast-spoke wheels. However, the common slang for then is "spider hub" or "Dayton Wheel". The wheels you see now that use lug nuts like a car, they are called a disc style wheel. The steel ones are commonly called "Budds" while the aluminum ones are called "Alcoa's". I liked the old Blue Bird TC/ 2000 with the 6-spoke spider hubs. Yes, spider hubs are cool looking, but the fact of the matter is, school buses never really needed them as their GVWR is just not high enough to warrant them; that is why the school bus industry as a whole started to phase out the spider hubs in the late 90's & early 2000's. The International 3800 chassis held on to the spider hubs until its last year in 2004. On the Blue Bird TC/2000, 2001 was the last year of the spider hubs for the TC/2000; that's how I know if I see one with spider hubs it's no newer than 2001. Spider hubs are stronger, they are used by logging companies in Canada and other parts of the world. Because the U.S has a max limit of 80,000 Lbs & does not give out overweight permits like hot cakes, AND, there is only so much weight per axle you can have in the U.S, the disc style wheels suffice especially as our metallurgy has vastly improved over the years. Yes, spider hubs are alive and well, just not here in the U.S
@@suburbanator91 Thank you for your comment. I've been wondering for some time now why buses and even trucks now a days don't have spider hubs. I wasn't sure how I was going to get my questions answered. I've learned so much from your comment.
Tommy. My concern is always ease of access to be able to remove the oil pan, to change the oil pump often. Is it easier to drop the pan on a front engined, or more so rear engined, bus?
MostThomas buses with air and electric doors have a three position door switch, First position is door closed, step light off, stop sign retracted, and crossing arm closed. If you push the overhead warning light switch while the door switch is in this position the overhead amber lights will flash. The second switch position will mean your yellow overhead flashers go off and the red overhead flashers come on (assuming you had started the overhead lights), stop sign goes out, crossing arm goes out, and step light comes on but door is still closed, and the third position is door open, overhead red flashers, stop sign, crossing arm, and step light on.. If you mistakenly leave it in the second position without activating the overhead warning lights to make a bus stop pick up, the step well light will be on.It is just part of what comes on with that position of the switch. Unless something is screwed up, if the door switch is turned back off then the step light will go off as it should. It shouldnt be on unless the door switch is in one of the second two positions. I drive a school bus and was used to the manual doors and had to get used to the switch positions when I got a bus with air doors. I drove an 05 Thomas Conventional 72 passenger bus for about ten years and last year i was given a new bus. It is a 2018 Thomas conventional 72 passenger bus. I currently drive that for the county school system i work for. I liked my 05 much better. Whomever Thomas has helping design new buses definitely has never been a school bus driver. Before the 05 model, I drove an 89 Blue bird conventional 65 passenger for about 8 years. Before that I had an Amtran gasoline conventional 65 passenger bus. LOL more than you wanted to know im sure.
I live in Illinois too! I also find different kinds of buses fascinating as well. 38 is my bus number too which is weird because it pops up everywhere. ;-; ;w;
4 months and no answer..Guess he is not one to answer comments...Don't know why he would buy soo many buses but he does drive an ex police car and those kind of people who buy ex police cars are an odd bunch!!
after buying older bus' do u have to have a basic cdl license.... or what..... & r u limited on how many u can buy per month or yr or what ever................... mind ya this is the 1 st time on here watching......
beet juice u say is how the rds there in woodstock ill., is pre treatment for the winter there...... wow........ so what's the beet juice do or not do pro's & con's for the winter rds there in your area................????????????????????????
is there a lot or lil competitive-ness in buying up old buses to do what ever w/ them wither u part them out or whatever ........... & what is usualy the lowest & the mid & the highest that u or local guy's & gal's all do what u do w/ the buses what r the basic cash prices on these buses usually..... & why in simple-ness MIND U I'M ALL BRAND NEW TO ALL THE BUS THING BUT I FIND IT VERY VERY VERY INTRIGGING TO WATCH & LEARN AS I WATCH YOUR VIDEO'S HERE...........
Amo los buses de todo tipo... pero me gustaría que explicarán mejor todo su funcionamiento para que y como funciona cada una de sus cosas cada botón interruptor cada cosa que lo expliquen bien
These redundant school buses seem to be good buys with plenty of life in them, unlike here where school buses are ex public service single or deckers or coaches - when they get cascaded down to school runs, then the next stop for them is the scrap yards. i have driven some horrible ex public service things, and believe me, i wouldn't want to buy them after they finish on school runs ! ( we don't have school buses built for that purpose here unlike your country , although i do see yellow coloured coaches at times which mimic American style )
Something I've never understood was why the rest of the world doesn't have the same rigorous school bus Requirements and safety standards as we do here in the US, especially since we're always accused of having more 'lax' saftey and regulatory laws than everywhere else. American school bus design is meant to keep children safe in transit to school and they are very effective at doing that.
WHATS THE TYPICAL PRICE'S FOR BUSES THERE IN Woodstock ill., area's there..... ( i got the city & state from the side of the bus )......lol hi & mid & low rough prices no matter the yr., the make & the model & the mileage's..................?????? i have no interrest in buying em at all i'm just curious or prices basicly......... as i get more intrigged i ask more basic info.,...... if u r ok w/ my curious-ness ........lol,lol,lol
When I was in school, unlike many of my peers, I loved riding the school bus. Especially in elementary school, it was my favorite part of my day. Besides the friends who rode it with me, there was something about the seat cushions that I was fond of. It was what I call the "Starburst Effect", the typical effect you get when you sit on a vinyl cushion that your hips sink deeply into. I'm talking about the wrinkles that extend from under your hips out, and resemble the spokes of a wheel. I especially think that effect looks great with the legs crossed thigh to thigh.
do you like new school buses?
@@milwaukee1486 The best thing about new school buses is that they have A/C on them, which is long overdue. That should have been made a standard feature in the early 70's. However, the higher seat backs that go above the window sashes incourage kids to stand up to talk to people sitting in front or behind. They're supposed to remain seated, especially when the bus is in motion. I think the seat backs really should only come to just above the bottom of the lower window pain. They need to have seat belts, and there needs to be more legroom between the seats. My longtime girlfriend Harris has a friend named Andria, who is a habitual leg crosser. She absolutely can't sit comfortably without crossing her legs thigh to thigh, or else she gets very restless. When she and Harris were in high school, neither of them were fortunate enough to have their own vehicles. They rode the school bus all the way through high school. They always tried to get a seat together, preferably the "shotgun" seat if it was available. That's the front seat on the starboard side behind the stairwell. Andria had more room to cross her legs. Otherwise, her knee of the leg that was crossed over would be into the padding on the seat back in front.
The front seat on the port side behind the driver is the "Troublemakers" seat. That's where I've known school bus drivers to make troublemakers sit to keep an eye on them in the big mirror, and separate them from kids that they'd otherwise bully and pick on. If my girlfriend, who has been heavyset since she became a teenager, had to sit next to someone who wasn't.a friend of hers, she'd get harassed and bullied about how much of the bus seat her hips took up. If she had to sit on the aisle, the other person in the seat would force her to sit hanging over.
@@jackyclaiborne2142 que bonita explicación 😊
I'm finding it hard to believe this bus is from 2000. But I imagine it went through a lot of kids.
wink
Man I love that 5.9 sound gives me goosebumps every time I listen to it
That 5.9L Cummins 24-valve sounds awesome, including the turbo spool!
Man that Cummins sounds amazing!!
18 years old and still in great shape
On highways sometimes that Cummins sounds like it doesn’t have enough power. But it still sounds great!
The ERs however have the 8.3 which is more powerful but the 5.9 sounds great
14:22 Nothing can beat the classic inline 6 cylinder growl of the 5.9 Cummins B series, not even the 6.7
Actually, it can. Listen to the Detroit DD5
That bus #38 is a sweet looking bus, nice paint job and doesn’t seem to be rusty. Also seems to drive nicely.
Your bus has a nice paint job on it and it has a sweet sounding idle.
I had my sister make a sound deadening cover for less engine NOISE. Worked very well.
When I was a kid and teenager the church I went to had a 1965 Superior conventional, on an International Loadstar chassis. It had a v8 gas engine with 5 speed manual, along with manual brakes and steering. It was a 54 passenger bus. When I first got my license I would get my dad's keys to the church, drive to the church, and get the keys to that bus, and drive it around in the parking lot, practicing shifting and clutching. I wish that bus were around today.
I think nowadays the most common school buses that I see here in NJ are Saf-T-Liner C2s, Bluebirds and IC.
30-40 years ago there used to be a lot of Superiors, Waynes and Thomases, and some Bluebirds. Back then they all had gas engines and manual steering, brakes and transmissions.
Nice buses to add to your collection. The transit school buses are great(seen a lot of them at the bus garage my Dad worked at for years). I hope to see a Ford school bus added to your collection with the 5.9 Cummins in it.
Nostalgia :'-)
Love that old crown Vic police car man I’ve been looking for one for years it’s almost impossible for me to find a 1993 to 97 Ford crown Vic police
You've been looking for years? You can literally buy crown vics for like $500 at police auctions, you could probably piece together the cleanest crown vic around for like $1500
Jack Didn't know was a real person you should get a 2011 Crown Vic P71 Police Interceptor
Yeah man, the older 1992-1997 aerobody Crown Vics P71's are super hard to come by, especially clean with no rust and not beat to hell. I have a 1995 Crown Vic P74 civil model. Its not a police package, but i have it fitted like one because i like the way they look better then the civilian look. Its nothing special, but im running a K&N air filter with dual exhaust on the stock 4.6L V8. If you want, you can find my Instagram on it: mikey_automotive I hope you find one man, that would be really cool!
Sounds just like a Blue Bird TC2000. Good video!
How is the bus going now since its in safe hands with you?
Ok, but the rear overhang is monumental!
Dang I was not expecting you to get back and have a collection of buses! 😮 I'm a little jealous. Great stuff! #Subscribed
MrDmagic88 It's been a good year! I'm glad you're back! 👍
Never see side-mounted exhaust on a bus. Very surprised it doesn't have air brakes.
Incrível muito bom o vídeo, ônibus anda bem, tem uma aceleração muito boa.
The crown vic you have is one of my favorite models, is that the 97? I notice the steering wheel... great car
wow bro another great school bus.
That bus can movee😩😍
Cool video, I also have bus #22 as well hahaha, it's a RE though.
Very nice bus so nice and love school buses also
That. Bus yard reminds me of when I taken my Cdl Road test. At Chippewa valley school District.
Love the Allison AT545 no lock up trans; engine revving up or down depending how much load it's under.
My Hino bus has one; interestingly the engine has an exhaust brake which is almost useless unless you manually change down a gear or two
GOOD MORNING BEAST TOMMY CANADA AND VIDEO CANDNA ONTARIO MISSISSAUGA TRANSIT 🇨🇦🇨🇦🌿🍀🍀🍀
+Tommy Retro make sure you put snow chains on all the tires of the bus
Next video will be a RV transformation.😉
Now, contractors and FCPS would have had these in their fleets; however, CCBoE (where I went to school) would not; capacity is too large. (CCBoE has a max. cap of 70 pupils per bus - and it has been the case for three decades; PGCPS has the same capacity nowadays.)
Cool 2000 old school bus
Those wheels are my favorite school bus wheels sucks they don’t use that design anymore
Joseph Asdo you can tell it’s old and gonna be a blast to drive with those cross wheels. I feel you but I also like the new wheels too
The proper name for those wheels are called cast-spoke wheels. However, the common slang for then is "spider hub" or "Dayton Wheel". The wheels you see now that use lug nuts like a car, they are called a disc style wheel. The steel ones are commonly called "Budds" while the aluminum ones are called "Alcoa's". I liked the old Blue Bird TC/ 2000 with the 6-spoke spider hubs. Yes, spider hubs are cool looking, but the fact of the matter is, school buses never really needed them as their GVWR is just not high enough to warrant them; that is why the school bus industry as a whole started to phase out the spider hubs in the late 90's & early 2000's. The International 3800 chassis held on to the spider hubs until its last year in 2004. On the Blue Bird TC/2000, 2001 was the last year of the spider hubs for the TC/2000; that's how I know if I see one with spider hubs it's no newer than 2001. Spider hubs are stronger, they are used by logging companies in Canada and other parts of the world. Because the U.S has a max limit of 80,000 Lbs & does not give out overweight permits like hot cakes, AND, there is only so much weight per axle you can have in the U.S, the disc style wheels suffice especially as our metallurgy has vastly improved over the years. Yes, spider hubs are alive and well, just not here in the U.S
@@suburbanator91 Thank you for your comment. I've been wondering for some time now why buses and even trucks now a days don't have spider hubs. I wasn't sure how I was going to get my questions answered. I've learned so much from your comment.
thats funny, I remember that style having the engine in the back.
Tommy. My concern is always ease of access to be able to remove the oil pan, to change the oil pump often. Is it easier to drop the pan on a front engined, or more so rear engined, bus?
i love the utrbo engine sound
That cummins fired right up and runs real nice. Do they run the 5.9 in those things or larger?
Shane Singleton Yep, it's got the 24 valve Cummins. Runs and pulls great!
Cummins sounds real good
Make that thing roll coal
Nice 💪🏾
Can you do a starting up video and tour of this bus
I love the old thomases fs65
I ride one
This MVP EF is a real Thomas (No parts were from Freightliner)
Man Front Engine School Buses Are My 3th Favorite School Buses
Pretty cool! And wow, you’re in a pretty-rural area!
Good solid sturdy bus right here
I know It might have a 5.9L, but at certain parts It sounds like a 6.7L
Itigo23 a bus this old has the old 5.9. The mid-2000s is when they stopped making the 5.9 for the 6.7
It sounds somewhat like a 6.7 but with that MBE 900 bass.
The 5.9 has more of a vocal 6 cylinder sound at 2000 RPM (can also be heard on V6s) compared to the 6.7
Oh, and did anybody notice on Bus 38 that the entry well light inside was on when the door was closed?
MostThomas buses with air and electric doors have a three position door switch, First position is door closed, step light off, stop sign retracted, and crossing arm closed. If you push the overhead warning light switch while the door switch is in this position the overhead amber lights will flash. The second switch position will mean your yellow overhead flashers go off and the red overhead flashers come on (assuming you had started the overhead lights), stop sign goes out, crossing arm goes out, and step light comes on but door is still closed, and the third position is door open, overhead red flashers, stop sign, crossing arm, and step light on.. If you mistakenly leave it in the second position without activating the overhead warning lights to make a bus stop pick up, the step well light will be on.It is just part of what comes on with that position of the switch. Unless something is screwed up, if the door switch is turned back off then the step light will go off as it should. It shouldnt be on unless the door switch is in one of the second two positions.
I drive a school bus and was used to the manual doors and had to get used to the switch positions when I got a bus with air doors. I drove an 05 Thomas Conventional 72 passenger bus for about ten years and last year i was given a new bus. It is a 2018 Thomas conventional 72 passenger bus. I currently drive that for the county school system i work for. I liked my 05 much better. Whomever Thomas has helping design new buses definitely has never been a school bus driver. Before the 05 model, I drove an 89 Blue bird conventional 65 passenger for about 8 years. Before that I had an Amtran gasoline conventional 65 passenger bus. LOL more than you wanted to know im sure.
Now we wait for him to get a TC2000 or a RE
I live in Illinois too! I also find different kinds of buses fascinating as well. 38 is my bus number too which is weird because it pops up everywhere. ;-; ;w;
In Illinois almost every school bus is a Thomas C2 or IC CE
I would like to own an older crown with the Detroit Diesel and manual transmission.
Can you do a starting up and tour of this bus just asking dude
New to the channel. Love all the buses but what do you do once you get them?
4 months and no answer..Guess he is not one to answer comments...Don't know why he would buy soo many buses but he does drive an ex police car and those kind of people who buy ex police cars are an odd bunch!!
Awesome
My school's ef fits about 80 and i think bus 24(the loud bus) fits about like 82 i think
That is great to check the bus is because if you if you checking a busthat is like good
The cummins B6.7 in it sounds great to
5.9 not 6.7
Does anyone know which transmission is in that year of Thomas bus? AT545 or MT643? Thanks in advance
rescue15cms These have the AT545s
When you were driving it sounded like it had the 7.6 DT466 International engine but sitting idle the typical cummins sound
This Bus Has The Cummins B5.9L Turbo Diesel I6.
Nice video you should make more driving video's that looks like a long bus how many feet is that bus
Ohh my God that's so very crazy And thats all that i AM going to be able to talk to you about for now.!'
after buying older bus' do u have to have a basic cdl license.... or what..... & r u limited on how many u can buy per month or yr or what ever................... mind ya this is the 1 st time on here watching......
beet juice u say is how the rds there in woodstock ill., is pre treatment for the winter there...... wow........ so what's the beet juice do or not do pro's & con's for the winter rds there in your area................????????????????????????
is there a lot or lil competitive-ness in buying up old buses to do what ever w/ them wither u part them out or whatever ...........
& what is usualy the lowest & the mid & the highest that u or local guy's & gal's all do what u do w/ the buses what r the basic cash prices on these buses usually..... & why in simple-ness MIND U I'M ALL BRAND NEW TO ALL THE BUS THING BUT I FIND IT VERY VERY VERY INTRIGGING TO WATCH & LEARN AS I WATCH YOUR VIDEO'S HERE...........
Let's build 100 seat buses. Like planes. So when a accident does happen, we can have more ambulances at the scene.
Dog, now that it has is been 4 years. Let me ask you. What was going on your mind when you wrote this
Very good bus and very good engine sound, the only bad thing are those rims 😑, that kind of rims wobbles a lot😡
thomas bus is my favoret
You misspelled favorite
Ayyyyy you from Woodstock?? I stay over by Chicago 🤦🏼♂️ how about this weather we've had ? Yikes
Amo los buses de todo tipo... pero me gustaría que explicarán mejor todo su funcionamiento para que y como funciona cada una de sus cosas cada botón interruptor cada cosa que lo expliquen bien
Looking for a good old school bus like to have a 1998 bluebird
With all these school buses what do you do with them.
My district had a bunch of fs65 with the cummins along with the fe
You still have the other buses
😉😉😉😉😀😀😀😀😀😀😀👍👍👍
What do you do with the buses you buy?
I like it make a video for bus 22 tommy
My school has one of these but the windows are different and it's an activity bus from 2001
How do u get ur car back when u drive the busses back?
These redundant school buses seem to be good buys with plenty of life in them, unlike here where school buses are ex public service single or deckers or coaches - when they get cascaded down to school runs, then the next stop for them is the scrap yards. i have driven some horrible ex public service things, and believe me, i wouldn't want to buy them after they finish on school runs ! ( we don't have school buses built for that purpose here unlike your country , although i do see yellow coloured coaches at times which mimic American style )
Do you have to have a CDL to drive those without people in them?
Yes.
Hey its Woodstock lol i thought it looked familiar
Tommy Retro can you please do a video of a 1993 Grand Caravan LE?
No.
i like Thomas Saf T Liner School Busses
I hate them
@@fivemtrooper763 why?
@@fivemtrooper763 there is tons of Thomas Saf T Liner School Busses at my school
They dont have as good engines and transmissions
@@fivemtrooper763 the Thomas Saf T Liners that go to my school are c2's
funny thing is is that i used to ride this bus in 2016
What year is that Vic you got
you have exactly what i want
a crown vic
and proper american school busses
but i live in South Africa so thats not possible :(
Something I've never understood was why the rest of the world doesn't have the same rigorous school bus Requirements and safety standards as we do here in the US, especially since we're always accused of having more 'lax' saftey and regulatory laws than everywhere else. American school bus design is meant to keep children safe in transit to school and they are very effective at doing that.
@@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife I totally agree out school busses are not even school busses with lights or anything they are just normal coaches
WHATS THE TYPICAL PRICE'S FOR BUSES THERE IN Woodstock ill., area's there..... ( i got the city & state from the side of the bus )......lol hi & mid & low rough prices no matter the yr., the make & the model & the mileage's..................?????? i have no interrest in buying em at all i'm just curious or prices basicly......... as i get more intrigged i ask more basic info.,...... if u r ok w/ my curious-ness ........lol,lol,lol
8:11 someone sat on a hamster
Nooice
the cummins sounds like a cat
#BusLife
well, this is not that far from where i live
What do you do with these school buses?
Brad Richards I collect them to preserve history and take them to car and truck shows.
Cool. I like that idea.
Tommy Retro Cool. Thanks for the reply.
@@TommyRetro how much did you pay for the used bues
Close to the double yellow alot
is bus 38 a MDF?
Nothing like getting killed if you hit anything.
What do you plan to do with these buses?
1:53 are you driving a cop car
Christreadwell I think he is
You drive a Vic?
What did you pay for that bus and where .
You should buy an 03 Chevy bus