I'm so so so happy you bought this vehicle instead of a bronco! I had begged in the older video where you were considering it to go to a BMW dealership. I was recommending a MX3 or MX5. I hope you enjoy this vehicle to the fullest. Sorry if I came off like a dick but your voice reminds me of home. BK NY NYPD ALL DAY
ha ha well since I shot this video and banged through the worst NYC roads the car settled very nicely to be honest. I am very happy so far but I think the HR Sports might be what I desire we will see how long it takes before i swap them around,
Stephen thanks for sharing the engineering of these cars is really good. the QV is an incredible car when it runs and treats you right but if you experienced any of the issues with bad dealers and lack of manufacture support like I did then that is clear why you made the switch. How long did you own the QV and was it reliable for the most part or did you go through hell like i did which eventually made me move on after 4.5 years.
@@autofanaticcars I had mine over two years and it was remapped to 605bhp, luckily had no faults with it. To be honest the M4 just feels far superior to drive and sit in. Still love the QV but drive one back to back with a new m3/4 and it’s night and day 👍👍
what shocks me is working on the M3 is so easy there are no special aero panels, naca ducts and just wrenching is a breeze yet the car feels so much better built and engineered than the QV which shocked me, the M cars need full race exhaust they are too quiet out of the box I did the full REMUS race it is insanity.
Interesting that your car was 28" from the ground to the fender. Mine was 27.75" at 4500 miles, and after the Eibachs it was at 27" flat with an even 1 finger gap all the way around, RWD manual here, too. It should settle more over time based on that.
and the NYC roads beat the hell out of any car quick since i shot this video my ride height dropped a total of .80 and i measured it like 4 times already i think it wont settle anymore from the abuse it has been through over the last two weeks.
…it’s really unfortunate that these high performance vehicles (especially modified ones) have to be driven on less than perfect road conditions. Recently, my G30 (w/ M Sport pkg) was installed w/ MSS (HAS) kit…and, I’ve tried to avoid every imperfection road surfaces under the sun. So far so good!👌
yeah the NY roads absolutely suck and one of the biggest reasons of us taking steps to relocate to a much cleaner and nicer areas. NY is disgusting from the roads, trash and garbage all over the roads it is not worth the premium to be here anymore.
I'm curious how this car corners when compared to stock. I have a stock RWD G82, and even in sport mode, I believe the car corners horribly. Would love to fix that.
There are quite a few really good comprehensive install videos of doing springs on these cars on YT so i didn’t want to be redundant on that. Install is an honest 1 hour DIY job.
does Eibach make Supra front only springs? I never was a fan of their Pro Kits in general but this front spring kit works awesome on the G80. H&R will drop more and be firmer which I personally prefer.
@@autofanaticcars Oh no, they don't do front only springs. It's only about a .8" (20mm) drop on all four corners, whereas the H&R's (for the Supra at least) are 1" front and .75" rear. I typically also prefer a more aggresive drop but decided to go conservative with Eibachs due to snow here in UT and daily driving. Been around since you got your QV. Almost got one myself thanks to you. Excited for the future G80 content as thats my next dream car.
I have a 2022 M3 Competiton xDrive. I have been contemplating selling and taking a profit and looking at a 2019+ GT350/R. I wish I could keep both but can't. If you could only choose one, which would you go with.
coming from someone who daily drove a Shelby GT350 for 3 years in the NYC area it all depends where you live if you live in the NYC metro area or similar conditions absolutely no way in hell would I suggest a GT350 to daily the roads are so bad and dangerous and youll never enjoy the car. if you live in the wide open country with smooth driving roads then for sure you would love it every single mile you put on the GT350. think about your lifestyle, road conditions and how you will use it. the Shelby has plenty of room for daily use as well. I have so many videos on the GT350 on this channel from a few years back you may want to take time to watch some of them and this should really help you decide.
@@autofanaticcars This is great insight, thank you. I recently purchased a second car so the M3 sits and that is what got me thinking...is the M3 special enough to just sit and drive occasionally, or would something like a GT350 scratch that itch better. The M3 is an amazing do it all car, especially with xdrive, but I am not sure it is special enough just as a weekend car.
Nick there is no other car like the GT350 and I mean that even a $300K Porsche wont give you the same visceral rawness of that Shelby because the Porsche has refinement, full leather wrapped interior, sound isolation and insane precise build plus all the bells and whistles. The Shelby is just balls out RAW take it or leave it and deal with the crap interior quality, lack of modern tech and bad body fit and finish and paint because what it rewards you when driving you forget about all the luxuries fast. The Shelby is not for everyone because it rattles, vibrates, sucks fuel, rides hard and may not be what you want. You need to decide if that is what your ultimately after. This is the reason i started this channel 4 years ago was to discuss the ownership of the GT350 and why it is so special. The M3 Comp AWD Automatic is not exciting enough for my personal taste which is why I got the RWD Manual. It is a perfect daily driver for my life right now I do enjoy it. You may want to look into an E92 M3 those cars are awesome.
Hi we are not selling them in our store yet but have some sets available just send us an email through our website to discuss pricing. I think these are the easiest and safest lowering mod you can do, no complaints at all, personally i prefer much lower but that comes at a cost of harder ride and destroying your front bumper. I do not scrape on any driveway with these springs. Install is a breeze and no change in ride comfort in any drive mode.
Can you comment on the RPM’s at highway speed - say 80mph? I ordered the auto because I was concerned the 6mt wouldn’t return the highway mpg I wanted. Curious about your experience here
you do not buy a performance car to worry about fuel economy if that is your concern get something else.I never even check my gauge only the fuel gauge when to refuel.
@@autofanaticcars come on bro you can give me a better answer than that forum talk. ive been following you for years, buying your tire shine etc and have a ton of respect for you -- thats a flippant answer that doesnt do your auto intuition justice or reflect the level of effort you put into getting to know these vehicles. i have a gt350r (largely inpart to yours and others' recommendations) and a gen2 raptor in the garage. i understand proper valuations onto fuel economy. hoping to get a real answer from you (or someone else) as that was a total let down...
I just refueled from E and i now checked after your reply, my gauge shows around 12mpg average and my car is still in break in mode. the one thing about this car is the fuel tank is small just like the E60M5 i had so depending on how you drive the range is bottle necked by the fuel capacity. fully fueled it gives me a range of only-210 miles on the dash gauge of course this will change on driving conditions. hope this helps but these cars are not using any type of hybrid tech that other BMW cars are which is great to be honest. Unlike my old M5 I would have to refuel the V10 4 times per week it was ridiculous how bad that car was on gas kinda like the GT350 when driven hard.
Does your car report 65mph as being the speed limit there too? My X5 and S4 both say 65 when it's not posted anywhere. You should also join us Sunday mornings. Meet up with a few 2023 RS3's , Twin Turbo R8, my S4 and your neighbor with the worked hellcat :)
@@autofanaticcars DIdn't hear or see any speed alert. Fam is in bed hills. On those roads seemingly daily. Just curious if your car reports 65 as well.
By lowering the front are you not changing the weight per axle slightly? It would possible change the balance more to the front and have a negative impact on handling. Can’t corner balance it with fixed springs. Great work on the channel and thanks.
not sure what engineering went into these with Eibach but this front spring only upgrade is very popular in Europe not so much in the USA because the USA dealers can not supply the parts. Overall if you want subtle this is perfect with no change in handling other than more front camber which helps turn in and steering but ride comfort is identical to OEM. if you want extreme this is not for you. I recently removed these Eibach front springs and sold to a friend and did the H&R Sport Springs all around and love them because it lowered the entire car more and also firmed up the handling which is what I wanted, I like rock hard stiff, others do not but the H&R to me feels perfect for the street.
How do they ride after setteling? Obviously lower but how about the performance, so they still feel stock from a comfort perspective or have they stiffenes a little after settling?
Hi Scott they ride exactly like stock however the car feels much better with the slight lower up front it increased your camber and caster and makes the steering feel way better and response as well. If you want a simple lowering for the G8X this is it unless you do a full HAS kit or something else. I researched every option on the market and many springs have noise and rubbing issues and even some HAS kits are headaches. I currently am testing the H&R sport springs on my car and like them alot because i wanted a bit lower all around and stiffer harder ride is what I prefer.
@@autofanaticcars I will check them out I got some from R44 performance but somehow (not an expert) but I did not felt comfortable just in my head and took them out
spacers are safe if you properly torque them down when spacers fail it almost always is due to low wheel bolt torque or if someone is using an actual wheel spacer adaptor and they did not attached them right they can fall off but for the BMW they are really safe so no worries long term.
I hate to say this, but as a long time BMW, car enthusiast… mr. auto fanatic. I don’t know if this is your first Bmw or anything but you never want to mix springs as your tampering with the suspension system which could upset the car which is dangerous. Also, BMWs don’t take highly likely to suspension modifications that ruin what Bmw has designed the car around… but in general never mix springs don’t cut your springs. Don’t mix the springs from the front to the back and do not only lower the front of the car. If you’re doing this to save money, then why are you buying an M car? Do it the right way and buy a full spring kit or a HAS kit so you can adjust the ride height.. but in general messing with the suspension system, can cause you to lose control of your car, which is in dangerous others on the road so please always take caution when you are modifying your suspension with a high horsepower vehicle
Brian I have owned many M cars and modified them all, Eibach properly engineered these springs in conjunction with the OEM rears. These are not cut springs or some generic spring. there are zero affects on handling to negate the changes made. keeping any car stock is not for me never was for 30 years. I test products and modify cars for a living this is how I offer these options to customers based off my testing and real world feedback which is why I have invested over $3000 in spring kits already to try out.
@@autofanaticcars I have to disagree when you are changing spring rates on your vehicle. You want to ensure the balance is stable on the vehicle? Specially when pushing it hard. Again proper way to modify. Your suspension is to change the springs with a kit that all works together in balance and if you really wanted to step things up, you can always go with a height adjustable kit, so that way you can corner balance to vehicle if you want.
I'm so so so happy you bought this vehicle instead of a bronco! I had begged in the older video where you were considering it to go to a BMW dealership. I was recommending a MX3 or MX5. I hope you enjoy this vehicle to the fullest. Sorry if I came off like a dick but your voice reminds me of home. BK NY NYPD ALL DAY
Thanks for the review, great job. Any idea how the spring rates compare to stock?
That gap refuses to disappear! 😂 looks better though. Nice upgrades so far.
ha ha well since I shot this video and banged through the worst NYC roads the car settled very nicely to be honest. I am very happy so far but I think the HR Sports might be what I desire we will see how long it takes before i swap them around,
Great, much needed video review.
Glad it was helpful! Install is a breeze and you can order these springs from many UK BMW Specialists online
I’ve just sold my Giulia QV and got into a new M4 Competition X drive…
My word it’s fantastic
Stephen thanks for sharing the engineering of these cars is really good. the QV is an incredible car when it runs and treats you right but if you experienced any of the issues with bad dealers and lack of manufacture support like I did then that is clear why you made the switch. How long did you own the QV and was it reliable for the most part or did you go through hell like i did which eventually made me move on after 4.5 years.
@@autofanaticcars I had mine over two years and it was remapped to 605bhp, luckily had no faults with it.
To be honest the M4 just feels far superior to drive and sit in. Still love the QV but drive one back to back with a new m3/4 and it’s night and day 👍👍
what shocks me is working on the M3 is so easy there are no special aero panels, naca ducts and just wrenching is a breeze yet the car feels so much better built and engineered than the QV which shocked me, the M cars need full race exhaust they are too quiet out of the box I did the full REMUS race it is insanity.
@@autofanaticcars yes exhaust and downpipes, I’d love to remap it too. Feels like it’s begging for it :)
Interesting that your car was 28" from the ground to the fender. Mine was 27.75" at 4500 miles, and after the Eibachs it was at 27" flat with an even 1 finger gap all the way around, RWD manual here, too. It should settle more over time based on that.
and the NYC roads beat the hell out of any car quick since i shot this video my ride height dropped a total of .80 and i measured it like 4 times already i think it wont settle anymore from the abuse it has been through over the last two weeks.
What front splitter is that?
Loving your content 👍
Glad you enjoy it!
…it’s really unfortunate that these high performance vehicles (especially modified ones) have to be driven on less than perfect road conditions. Recently, my G30 (w/ M Sport pkg) was installed w/ MSS (HAS) kit…and, I’ve tried to avoid every imperfection road surfaces under the sun. So far so good!👌
yeah the NY roads absolutely suck and one of the biggest reasons of us taking steps to relocate to a much cleaner and nicer areas. NY is disgusting from the roads, trash and garbage all over the roads it is not worth the premium to be here anymore.
I'm curious how this car corners when compared to stock. I have a stock RWD G82, and even in sport mode, I believe the car corners horribly. Would love to fix that.
Looks great. Did the front settle/drop any more after driving for a few days?
OMG yes with 300+ miles banging on the NY busted roads it definitely settled now it measures .80 of a drop i post pics on my IG feed and stories
Just saw you parked in front of the BRONXVILLE MOVIE HOUSE (4:00pm)!!!! Car looks and sounds great!!!
ha ha nice was it loud enough
never too loud!!!!
Looking forward to the video with the new exhaust. Subscribed!
coming soon I am playing around with some minor configuration changes still.
U would recommend these? Thanks man
Did it as well on my 2023 M3 MT. Dig it. No brainer mod. 13f/10r spacers as well. No rubbing on PZeros. What is your spacer setup?
nice my spacers are 12 front and rear no rubbing
So…dibs on these springs when you switch? 👀
I’m just looking to reduce the gap and I’ll prob throw some spacers and be done with it
I might be doing the HR next week if time permits so send me an email and they are yours.
Thank you for sharing. Picking my M3 MT up next week. Where can I purchase these front only Eibach springs?
Uk sellers try R44, Motec or Evolve they all ship DHL to the USA
What size wheel spacers did you have for this video?
15 and 12 from IND
Would be really good to see the install - did you happen to record it?
There are quite a few really good comprehensive install videos of doing springs on these cars on YT so i didn’t want to be redundant on that. Install is an honest 1 hour DIY job.
@@autofanaticcars thanks, did you have to re-do tracking alignment after the install?
Thanks for uploading! I'm debating between the Eibach Euro's or H&R's for my Supra.
does Eibach make Supra front only springs? I never was a fan of their Pro Kits in general but this front spring kit works awesome on the G80. H&R will drop more and be firmer which I personally prefer.
@@autofanaticcars Oh no, they don't do front only springs. It's only about a .8" (20mm) drop on all four corners, whereas the H&R's (for the Supra at least) are 1" front and .75" rear. I typically also prefer a more aggresive drop but decided to go conservative with Eibachs due to snow here in UT and daily driving.
Been around since you got your QV. Almost got one myself thanks to you. Excited for the future G80 content as thats my next dream car.
I have a 2022 M3 Competiton xDrive. I have been contemplating selling and taking a profit and looking at a 2019+ GT350/R. I wish I could keep both but can't. If you could only choose one, which would you go with.
coming from someone who daily drove a Shelby GT350 for 3 years in the NYC area it all depends where you live if you live in the NYC metro area or similar conditions absolutely no way in hell would I suggest a GT350 to daily the roads are so bad and dangerous and youll never enjoy the car. if you live in the wide open country with smooth driving roads then for sure you would love it every single mile you put on the GT350. think about your lifestyle, road conditions and how you will use it. the Shelby has plenty of room for daily use as well. I have so many videos on the GT350 on this channel from a few years back you may want to take time to watch some of them and this should really help you decide.
@@autofanaticcars This is great insight, thank you. I recently purchased a second car so the M3 sits and that is what got me thinking...is the M3 special enough to just sit and drive occasionally, or would something like a GT350 scratch that itch better. The M3 is an amazing do it all car, especially with xdrive, but I am not sure it is special enough just as a weekend car.
Nick there is no other car like the GT350 and I mean that even a $300K Porsche wont give you the same visceral rawness of that Shelby because the Porsche has refinement, full leather wrapped interior, sound isolation and insane precise build plus all the bells and whistles. The Shelby is just balls out RAW take it or leave it and deal with the crap interior quality, lack of modern tech and bad body fit and finish and paint because what it rewards you when driving you forget about all the luxuries fast. The Shelby is not for everyone because it rattles, vibrates, sucks fuel, rides hard and may not be what you want. You need to decide if that is what your ultimately after. This is the reason i started this channel 4 years ago was to discuss the ownership of the GT350 and why it is so special. The M3 Comp AWD Automatic is not exciting enough for my personal taste which is why I got the RWD Manual. It is a perfect daily driver for my life right now I do enjoy it. You may want to look into an E92 M3 those cars are awesome.
Those cars sell for MSRP ? I wouldn’t think so
Great video! Looking forward for a follow up review!!! Are those available at your store?
Hi we are not selling them in our store yet but have some sets available just send us an email through our website to discuss pricing. I think these are the easiest and safest lowering mod you can do, no complaints at all, personally i prefer much lower but that comes at a cost of harder ride and destroying your front bumper. I do not scrape on any driveway with these springs. Install is a breeze and no change in ride comfort in any drive mode.
Hi! What mm spacers are you using? Thanks
Can you comment on the RPM’s at highway speed - say 80mph? I ordered the auto because I was concerned the 6mt wouldn’t return the highway mpg I wanted. Curious about your experience here
you do not buy a performance car to worry about fuel economy if that is your concern get something else.I never even check my gauge only the fuel gauge when to refuel.
@@autofanaticcars come on bro you can give me a better answer than that forum talk. ive been following you for years, buying your tire shine etc and have a ton of respect for you -- thats a flippant answer that doesnt do your auto intuition justice or reflect the level of effort you put into getting to know these vehicles. i have a gt350r (largely inpart to yours and others' recommendations) and a gen2 raptor in the garage. i understand proper valuations onto fuel economy. hoping to get a real answer from you (or someone else) as that was a total let down...
I just refueled from E and i now checked after your reply, my gauge shows around 12mpg average and my car is still in break in mode. the one thing about this car is the fuel tank is small just like the E60M5 i had so depending on how you drive the range is bottle necked by the fuel capacity. fully fueled it gives me a range of only-210 miles on the dash gauge of course this will change on driving conditions. hope this helps but these cars are not using any type of hybrid tech that other BMW cars are which is great to be honest. Unlike my old M5 I would have to refuel the V10 4 times per week it was ridiculous how bad that car was on gas kinda like the GT350 when driven hard.
@@autofanaticcars Roger that. Thank you brother
Does your car report 65mph as being the speed limit there too? My X5 and S4 both say 65 when it's not posted anywhere. You should also join us Sunday mornings. Meet up with a few 2023 RS3's , Twin Turbo R8, my S4 and your neighbor with the worked hellcat :)
i think the speed alert is Waze via carplay it is annoying,
@@autofanaticcars DIdn't hear or see any speed alert. Fam is in bed hills. On those roads seemingly daily. Just curious if your car reports 65 as well.
Are you worried about forward rake?
not at all the car feels perfect and looks better than stock. I will be doing the HR kit next
Where can I buy the Eibach springs you put on your car?
try any of the UK BMW Performance parts sellers like Motech and R44 that is how I got mine. Great honest and simple upgrade for any G80 model.
By lowering the front are you not changing the weight per axle slightly? It would possible change the balance more to the front and have a negative impact on handling. Can’t corner balance it with fixed springs.
Great work on the channel and thanks.
not sure what engineering went into these with Eibach but this front spring only upgrade is very popular in Europe not so much in the USA because the USA dealers can not supply the parts. Overall if you want subtle this is perfect with no change in handling other than more front camber which helps turn in and steering but ride comfort is identical to OEM. if you want extreme this is not for you. I recently removed these Eibach front springs and sold to a friend and did the H&R Sport Springs all around and love them because it lowered the entire car more and also firmed up the handling which is what I wanted, I like rock hard stiff, others do not but the H&R to me feels perfect for the street.
@@autofanaticcarshow are you liking the H&R sport? Thinking on going same route! Thanks
Can these be used on an AWD car?
yes according to the box label it says RWD, COMP X DRIVE
do you scrape?
Never scraped with these springs when I switched to H&R I scraped daily
How do they ride after setteling? Obviously lower but how about the performance, so they still feel stock from a comfort perspective or have they stiffenes a little after settling?
Hi Scott they ride exactly like stock however the car feels much better with the slight lower up front it increased your camber and caster and makes the steering feel way better and response as well. If you want a simple lowering for the G8X this is it unless you do a full HAS kit or something else. I researched every option on the market and many springs have noise and rubbing issues and even some HAS kits are headaches. I currently am testing the H&R sport springs on my car and like them alot because i wanted a bit lower all around and stiffer harder ride is what I prefer.
H & R would have been the perfect choice, still looks factory height
yeah this was done just for testing and it does work well for anyone wanting a subtle change
Which spacers did you use?
future classic kits from IND, awesome quality and comes with the proper bolts and even anti seize compound.
@@autofanaticcars I will check them out I got some from R44 performance but somehow (not an expert) but I did not felt comfortable just in my head and took them out
spacers are safe if you properly torque them down when spacers fail it almost always is due to low wheel bolt torque or if someone is using an actual wheel spacer adaptor and they did not attached them right they can fall off but for the BMW they are really safe so no worries long term.
@@autofanaticcars great you mention torque im using 107ft/lbs it’s that correct?
yes i believe 105 is the factory spec
That’s a pretty cool looking jack. Where did u get it?
all my floor jacks are AC Hydraulic from Denmark you can buy from Pelican Parts direct
@@autofanaticcars thanks. I found your video reviewing them. I live in Canada. Found a supplier here but they cost an a and a leg. ☹️
I hate to say this, but as a long time BMW, car enthusiast… mr. auto fanatic. I don’t know if this is your first Bmw or anything but you never want to mix springs as your tampering with the suspension system which could upset the car which is dangerous. Also, BMWs don’t take highly likely to suspension modifications that ruin what Bmw has designed the car around… but in general never mix springs don’t cut your springs. Don’t mix the springs from the front to the back and do not only lower the front of the car. If you’re doing this to save money, then why are you buying an M car? Do it the right way and buy a full spring kit or a HAS kit so you can adjust the ride height.. but in general messing with the suspension system, can cause you to lose control of your car, which is in dangerous others on the road so please always take caution when you are modifying your suspension with a high horsepower vehicle
Brian I have owned many M cars and modified them all, Eibach properly engineered these springs in conjunction with the OEM rears. These are not cut springs or some generic spring. there are zero affects on handling to negate the changes made. keeping any car stock is not for me never was for 30 years. I test products and modify cars for a living this is how I offer these options to customers based off my testing and real world feedback which is why I have invested over $3000 in spring kits already to try out.
Ebibach does a lot of BMW OeM springs . The HAS kit is trash at the track. swift springs or ebibach are the best springs.
@@autofanaticcars I have to disagree when you are changing spring rates on your vehicle. You want to ensure the balance is stable on the vehicle? Specially when pushing it hard. Again proper way to modify. Your suspension is to change the springs with a kit that all works together in balance and if you really wanted to step things up, you can always go with a height adjustable kit, so that way you can corner balance to vehicle if you want.
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