Wtf I'm a girl and I don't do any of that stuff and why does everyone think that women have to take care of the babies, cook, clean, and stay at home. When I'm older and have a family husband and I will BOTH take care of the house.
at the end of the day gender stereotypes are what the feminists are fighting against. If u dont do any of these stereotypes then it shows that there is no need for feminism... which should put a stop to the stupid idea of "we need equality". Please do let those feminists know... thanks
We saw this video in health class today! The only part is the one about talking, where the male's talk is shown as straight lines and the female's talk is shown as swirls. Could anyone explain that?
Also, I know what you're thinking: "You don't get that, but you can see a dude carrying a handbag?" Remember, this was made partially in a foreign language, so I'm sure the nation this was made in has that.
@AhMunnaEechu well... the whole video was about stereotypes (both in the United States and in Italy, if not across all western culture, or if not world-wide). i think it was pretty accurate.
I tried to read the Gulag Archipelago years ago, but the sheer weight of the volume crushed my knees. And I refuse to feel ignorant or back out of a discussion just because I haven't done the claimed-to-be-mandatory 10 years' background reading and can't namedrop endlessly. I haven't read it, but since you have - explain it, like you're talking to a five-year-old.
Thank you ^^. I always find it difficult to express due to this language barrier. There's also the word "machismo" (maybe that one you know) which expresses the ideology of women being inferior, more accurately. What I hate the most is hembristas going around saying they are feminists, when they are just haters. I (partially) blame them for the hideous image of feminism most people have. We need more male feminists (true feminists) by the way ;)
That's just it, I think where people get confused is that it's not about the tasks themselves, it is how they are EXPECTED of one gender or another. Being a stay at home wife IN ITSELF is not bad, what is bad is the implication that that's the only thing women can and should be doing, for whatever reason. Expectations are the problem because many times they put people in a position that doesn't give them credit for what they are actually capable of - and no one likes that.
@Saiaton In an ideal world, society would understand gender and be able to sculpt it positively. That is the goal of feminism. If society could tomorrow say that it does not matter what activities a young boy or girl likes, then feminism's goals would be furthered. To do this, it requires saying that women (and men) are prevented from that enjoyment by their gender roles which may incite the victim status you stated. I think this is a cost worthwhile to create more positive gender roles.
*haha* This is funny and it describes exactly those two typical stereotypes of a "man" and a "woman" that lots of people seem to have in their brains. And it's so far away from reality, wham. ;-)
Oh, and nowadays, there's masculinism also, because men also need to get rid of some serious stereotypes and prejudices to get real equality. Search it, maybe you'll find it interesting.
hahah lol we watched this in church! It was so funny sad to say that it is pretty much all true! lol But i must say i dont "always" Go to the bathroom with someone. Most of thetime thought! Great vid!!
Thats funny with seducing, women tend to take their time, be real slow in their approach, sometimes not even approach at all. Men just get straight to the point. "I like you, what do you suppose we do about it?"
If you say someone is sexist or racist, that is simply an observation, stating a fact. But that fact does not carry any positive or negative value, it is just a neutral fact, that's all.
I don't think it showed that either of them had to change or that either change but that in the end, men and women want the same thing and are not so different after all.
I honestly don't agree, I have never seen a study that shows a stay at home man as the REASON the woman will leave, however, i have seen studies where it was related to economic hardships (eg. women tend to make less, more financial squeeze, more conflict, divorce) , or to the stress that others put on the relationship. Regardless, I think a person should be able to choose their role as a partner based on their qualities and personality, simple as that.
Socially constructed gender roles are perfectly OK, they're existing for a reason. These evolved through the ages, based on experience. With set gender roles, both a man and a woman knows what is excepted of them from the view of the other sex, as a partner. Also, they can rebel against those which they deem unfit. Today everybody seems to think "I decide what my gender role is, nobody should mouth into it, and I expect my partner to conform to MY views on gender." Small wonder marriages fail..
@mendicantwriter I think it's not the same. One's preferences about sex (the fact that you like men, women or both) or the body you wish to have (male or female) are one thing, and feminism supports that. Having to act in a determined way BECAUSE of those sexual preferences or body, are another, and that's what feminism is against. That's what I understand, at least.
the seducing part, is how a girl would try to get a date. she would go in circles and be a perfectionist, while the guy would just ask her out. and as for the ideal partner, that's the kind of person the opposite gender would like to marry.
@professorfoxtrot I understnad that. But what about the few women who are good at sports? It would be wrong to assume that ALL women are bad at sports just because most of them are. No one is saying events that happened didn't happen. We're jsut saying not to expect that a particular woman you see will be bad at sports just because the majority are. You can only make an educated guess until you've seen her play.
And I totally take your point that these women are not true feminists, but my point is that the title 'feminism' is chiefly to blame for their mistakenly calling themselves feminists. If the movement were called gender egalitarianism, or gender equality, it would be almost impossible for bigots and chauvinists to misunderstand it and place themselves under its banner, if you see what I mean.
@ManSpeakOut oh thats not true. Only a few guys flirt directly and if they do, they do it often and with strangers. Me, I'm a girl and I flirt directly, cause I aim girls and girls react better to someone who's straight forward. Its simple really, being direct shows you don't lack self esteem and that's a major turn on for males or females. So guys are said to flirt directly, cause when they do, it works. Hetero girls don't usually flirt cause they don't have too, guys come by themselves.
But, as I've said before, as feminism has never been about supremacy or men-hating, I don't see the harm in using it, chiefly since everything you may call gender equality comes from feminism (masculinism is very recent); practicly all gender subjects have been treated by feminist theory, even men's liberation from gender stereotypes (take a look upon Germaine Greer's work to check it). Before we end this, I'd still like one of those examples of bigotry you were talking about. They'd be useful.
I don't think they should define what we can and can't do as a person. Because let's face it, there are some women who are career-driven and independent, while there are some men who are more nurturing and good with children. I think personal traits should determine what a person does, rather than pre-conceived gender notions about what one "can" and "cannot" do based on a vagina or penis. And marriages also failed in the past too, but people stayed together unhappy, now people are divorcing
In fact, it can. Here in Spain, eversince the creation of the Ministry of Equality by the last government (maybe before, but specially virulently since then) it seems most people are literally allergic to words like equality or gender. They equiparate them with misandria and female supremacy. There has been a fierce opposition both from intellectuals and people at street level towards these concepts. I think what's wrong is not the ethimology, but the missinformation about the whole movement.
I've seen it. But the best either movement can hope to be is for equality, and because their names single out one gender group, there is always scope for slippage into chauvinism (and both movements do contain a lot of chauvinism). But even if they both manage to be egalitarian, masculinism and feminism are divisive by nature - you still have people going to one meeting to focus on male issues, and another to focus on female issues. That's gender division right there. And it's less positive.
Nope, that's not what I said. Maybe the message got lost within the long disquisitions. I'm not saying feminism does harbours bigotry but it doesn't matter, I'm saying feminism DOES NOT means sexism or chauvinism in any way, and that anything that does, is not feminism. That's it. Ok, let's accept it can be called gender equality; it's an expression as much used as feminism nowadays, and it serves. You are perfectly right if you do.
Part 2. And here's an advice from a man who loves women: When you, Feminists ask men to "treat you women equally, as if you were men", that by logic roughly translates into "oppress women, like you've never oppressed us before, without a pang of conscience"! See, men don't treat each other as "equals". You know the saying about the stronger dog, and by default, you are the weaker dogs. The defence for women from this in the past was in the traditional gender roles accepted BOTH by men and women!
Well you didn't to their comment, you completely misinterpreted it. You lashed out on something about controlling men .. when it is the opposite. What is wrong with stereotypes and prejudices? What is right about them? They have come to define people and limit what they can and can't do by gender, rather than ability. Sex differences are perfectly normal (sex not gender), the socially constructed gender stereotypes (which vary society to society by the way) are just that, socially constructed.
The situation when women refuse to be houseviwes and men agree to be "housemen" is typically such when a woman deep in her heart wants the total opposite of what she says she wants! Evidence shows that the more a man conforms to this modern view on gender and takes up feminine roles in the marriage and the household, the less the wife will find him sexually arousing, and more likely will she cheat on him and leave the marriage-in most cases for a macho guy sticking to the oldschool gender roles!
My question to self-proclaimed feminists is always this: if it's about equal rights, why not call it egalitarianism, instead of feminism? Naming a movement after one gender implies a bias. There's no getting away from that. I call myself a gender egalitarian, because I strive for equality among the genders, not for the elevation of one above the other.
@Saiaton I call myself feminist because, acording to all the diccionaries I've read, it means "social doctrine that asks for women the same rights and capacity as men". Whatever a bunch of misandrysts say, that won't change. Here in Spain, there's a difference between feminismo (feminism) and hembrismo (femalism); that last one accords with what you say of despising men, feminism doesn't. And about "feminine"... well, that's more a cultural matter.
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Hysterical! I am sharing this with my class in Graduate school. Thank you for posting and creating this. Job well done.
Lmao...we watched this in my speech class today and omg everyone was cracking up because it is true to a point. :D you can't deny it! :DD great vid :D
What is this spaghetti language.
Interesting portrayal of gender roles- a circle and a square- so simple and creative
My lecturer using this video on my Psychology Personality class.. Love it :D
Awesome! I'm going to use this to launch a debate tomorrow with a single-gender class of all boys. Thanks!
This video is a very nice one, thank you! I love it!
loooool
I love the shopping part it was so real and funny
OMG! Everything is true! Especially "coming home" part!
I am a Psychiatrist by Profession.
I think the video was very well conceptualised and so creatively displayed.
Amazing!!!
hahahaha loved it! i wish my lecturer had explained gender roles like this!!
Well ours did🤣
Wtf I'm a girl and I don't do any of that stuff and why does everyone think that women have to take care of the babies, cook, clean, and stay at home. When I'm older and have a family husband and I will BOTH take care of the house.
at the end of the day gender stereotypes are what the feminists are fighting against. If u dont do any of these stereotypes then it shows that there is no need for feminism... which should put a stop to the stupid idea of "we need equality". Please do let those feminists know... thanks
Its life. Sexist isnt it?
+TToTToTT Well, when people are aganist people who don't fit into these stereotypes and sexualize women then feminism is still needed.
very good at developing creativity and developing one's ideas
This was entertaining esp the shopping segment
Cute! And I must say, on the shopping when it came to the female, I totally agree! XD lol
a pretty accurate description
this video really trains students or students in developing expertise and creativity
Alright cool. Glad we got that straightened out. I didn't want to get "Busted" for nothing!
at the shopping part, neither of them paid
We saw this video in health class today!
The only part is the one about talking, where the male's talk is shown as straight lines and the female's talk is shown as swirls. Could anyone explain that?
* the part I didn't get.
Also, I know what you're thinking: "You don't get that, but you can see a dude carrying a handbag?" Remember, this was made partially in a foreign language, so I'm sure the nation this was made in has that.
It's saying that men get straight to the point. On the other hand, women get off track when talking, the curves.
@AhMunnaEechu well... the whole video was about stereotypes (both in the United States and in Italy, if not across all western culture, or if not world-wide). i think it was pretty accurate.
Nice. You've been so polite I'm not even going to bother.
it was sooooo funny i was laughing my ass off!! Cosi comico e diverdente!!!
Thank you, my dear! :)
about the talking thing.. it's funny. Usually at my school and on my bus it's the guys doing all the chatter as the girls try to do thier work.
fantastic! :D
I tried to read the Gulag Archipelago years ago, but the sheer weight of the volume crushed my knees. And I refuse to feel ignorant or back out of a discussion just because I haven't done the claimed-to-be-mandatory 10 years' background reading and can't namedrop endlessly. I haven't read it, but since you have - explain it, like you're talking to a five-year-old.
haha this is hilarious! idk about the business trip part tho, not true in my case.
Thank you ^^. I always find it difficult to express due to this language barrier. There's also the word "machismo" (maybe that one you know) which expresses the ideology of women being inferior, more accurately. What I hate the most is hembristas going around saying they are feminists, when they are just haters. I (partially) blame them for the hideous image of feminism most people have. We need more male feminists (true feminists) by the way ;)
I think it's really cute...love it!
just so true
That was actually pretty funny.
Great for the classroom
This video is so true.
awesome!! took something and made it fun.
I love this video....it's adorable :)
LOL BEST VIDEO I'VE SEEN!
That's just it, I think where people get confused is that it's not about the tasks themselves, it is how they are EXPECTED of one gender or another. Being a stay at home wife IN ITSELF is not bad, what is bad is the implication that that's the only thing women can and should be doing, for whatever reason. Expectations are the problem because many times they put people in a position that doesn't give them credit for what they are actually capable of - and no one likes that.
Very cute!
@snipessssss
why do you think that is?
I like this video👍🏻
@harishperi EXACTLY!
In some aspects I'm like a woman (f.ex. shopping) and in some like a man (f.ex.travelling, watching TV)
It's sad how many of the commenters assumed the video shared a positive view or even a naturalistic one on gender roles.
very cute video btw
Lol, they are teaching us to steal while shopping!!!
@Saiaton In an ideal world, society would understand gender and be able to sculpt it positively. That is the goal of feminism. If society could tomorrow say that it does not matter what activities a young boy or girl likes, then feminism's goals would be furthered. To do this, it requires saying that women (and men) are prevented from that enjoyment by their gender roles which may incite the victim status you stated. I think this is a cost worthwhile to create more positive gender roles.
@YoungnRomantic Yeaaaahhhhh, sure. I'm not even wasting time on that XD
3:08 thats the way
@YoungnRomantic Sure, sure!
LOL THIS IS SO FUNNY
muy buena critica
congrats
*haha* This is funny and it describes exactly those two typical stereotypes of a "man" and a "woman" that lots of people seem to have in their brains. And it's so far away from reality, wham. ;-)
This is so cute!!! The thing is, many of these stereotypes are true SOME of the time, but not ALL.
Why was this in my suggestion box?
Oh, and nowadays, there's masculinism also, because men also need to get rid of some serious stereotypes and prejudices to get real equality. Search it, maybe you'll find it interesting.
Cute and awesome.
@NATIONALCOMMUNISM666 Agreed.
@shangrigreige WRONG. There are all differnet places in between. It's like being FAT or SKINNY. There are GRAY AREAS>
The very substance of that belief is equality.
Did you think I was being sarcastic?
That was a compliment.
hahah lol we watched this in church!
It was so funny sad to say that it is pretty much all true! lol
But i must say i dont "always"
Go to the bathroom with someone.
Most of thetime thought!
Great vid!!
Thats funny with seducing, women tend to take their time, be real slow in their approach, sometimes not even approach at all.
Men just get straight to the point. "I like you, what do you suppose we do about it?"
althought i dont agree, but i still find this hilarious. should I call most of my guy friends female then? good video =D
what is your gender? male, female or black?
If you say someone is sexist or racist, that is simply an observation, stating a fact. But that fact does not carry any positive or negative value, it is just a neutral fact, that's all.
I don't think it showed that either of them had to change or that either change but that in the end, men and women want the same thing and are not so different after all.
Ha ha! Cute!
The business trip and the seduction ones were hilarious xD
@shangrigreige gender is male/female
very funny...!!! :)
I honestly don't agree, I have never seen a study that shows a stay at home man as the REASON the woman will leave, however, i have seen studies where it was related to economic hardships (eg. women tend to make less, more financial squeeze, more conflict, divorce) , or to the stress that others put on the relationship. Regardless, I think a person should be able to choose their role as a partner based on their qualities and personality, simple as that.
I watch this video at school
Socially constructed gender roles are perfectly OK, they're existing for a reason. These evolved through the ages, based on experience.
With set gender roles, both a man and a woman knows what is excepted of them from the view of the other sex, as a partner. Also, they can rebel against those which they deem unfit.
Today everybody seems to think "I decide what my gender role is, nobody should mouth into it, and I expect my partner to conform to MY views on gender." Small wonder marriages fail..
@mendicantwriter I think it's not the same. One's preferences about sex (the fact that you like men, women or both) or the body you wish to have (male or female) are one thing, and feminism supports that. Having to act in a determined way BECAUSE of those sexual preferences or body, are another, and that's what feminism is against. That's what I understand, at least.
lol.. very cute video..
According to this, I must be a man with a uterus.
the seducing part, is how a girl would try to get a date. she would go in circles and be a perfectionist, while the guy would just ask her out. and as for the ideal partner, that's the kind of person the opposite gender would like to marry.
@professorfoxtrot I understnad that. But what about the few women who are good at sports? It would be wrong to assume that ALL women are bad at sports just because most of them are.
No one is saying events that happened didn't happen. We're jsut saying not to expect that a particular woman you see will be bad at sports just because the majority are. You can only make an educated guess until you've seen her play.
i don't kow why when one girl goes to the bathroom, all of them go
gay feast! Nah they probs want to put on make up or something
+MapperMalta To gossip about what just happened in the table or fix their makeup while gossiping lol
Ghiz binthuda Actually studies show that men gossip more often
And I totally take your point that these women are not true feminists, but my point is that the title 'feminism' is chiefly to blame for their mistakenly calling themselves feminists. If the movement were called gender egalitarianism, or gender equality, it would be almost impossible for bigots and chauvinists to misunderstand it and place themselves under its banner, if you see what I mean.
Nice good People...
@YoungnRomantic I love the way you assume I'm some kind of ignorant unable to think critically just because we disagree. XDDDDDDD
I said historically. As in, in the past. America was once a British colony.
@ManSpeakOut
oh thats not true. Only a few guys flirt directly and if they do, they do it often and with strangers. Me, I'm a girl and I flirt directly, cause I aim girls and girls react better to someone who's straight forward. Its simple really, being direct shows you don't lack self esteem and that's a major turn on for males or females. So guys are said to flirt directly, cause when they do, it works. Hetero girls don't usually flirt cause they don't have too, guys come by themselves.
But, as I've said before, as feminism has never been about supremacy or men-hating, I don't see the harm in using it, chiefly since everything you may call gender equality comes from feminism (masculinism is very recent); practicly all gender subjects have been treated by feminist theory, even men's liberation from gender stereotypes (take a look upon Germaine Greer's work to check it). Before we end this, I'd still like one of those examples of bigotry you were talking about. They'd be useful.
I don't think they should define what we can and can't do as a person. Because let's face it, there are some women who are career-driven and independent, while there are some men who are more nurturing and good with children. I think personal traits should determine what a person does, rather than pre-conceived gender notions about what one "can" and "cannot" do based on a vagina or penis. And marriages also failed in the past too, but people stayed together unhappy, now people are divorcing
This shouldn't be true, but it is.
In fact, it can. Here in Spain, eversince the creation of the Ministry of Equality by the last government (maybe before, but specially virulently since then) it seems most people are literally allergic to words like equality or gender. They equiparate them with misandria and female supremacy. There has been a fierce opposition both from intellectuals and people at street level towards these concepts. I think what's wrong is not the ethimology, but the missinformation about the whole movement.
LOL @ male seduction! *PLOP!*
i love this video i think its funny
I've seen it. But the best either movement can hope to be is for equality, and because their names single out one gender group, there is always scope for slippage into chauvinism (and both movements do contain a lot of chauvinism).
But even if they both manage to be egalitarian, masculinism and feminism are divisive by nature - you still have people going to one meeting to focus on male issues, and another to focus on female issues. That's gender division right there. And it's less positive.
If you want me to change the oil or the tyre then make my bloody sandwich lol.
Nope, that's not what I said. Maybe the message got lost within the long disquisitions. I'm not saying feminism does harbours bigotry but it doesn't matter, I'm saying feminism DOES NOT means sexism or chauvinism in any way, and that anything that does, is not feminism. That's it.
Ok, let's accept it can be called gender equality; it's an expression as much used as feminism nowadays, and it serves. You are perfectly right if you do.
Part 2.
And here's an advice from a man who loves women:
When you, Feminists ask men to "treat you women equally, as if you were men", that by logic roughly translates into "oppress women, like you've never oppressed us before, without a pang of conscience"! See, men don't treat each other as "equals". You know the saying about the stronger dog, and by default, you are the weaker dogs. The defence for women from this in the past was in the traditional gender roles accepted BOTH by men and women!
Well you didn't to their comment, you completely misinterpreted it. You lashed out on something about controlling men .. when it is the opposite. What is wrong with stereotypes and prejudices? What is right about them? They have come to define people and limit what they can and can't do by gender, rather than ability. Sex differences are perfectly normal (sex not gender), the socially constructed gender stereotypes (which vary society to society by the way) are just that, socially constructed.
The situation when women refuse to be houseviwes and men agree to be "housemen" is typically such when a woman deep in her heart wants the total opposite of what she says she wants!
Evidence shows that the more a man conforms to this modern view on gender and takes up feminine roles in the marriage and the household, the less the wife will find him sexually arousing, and more likely will she cheat on him and leave the marriage-in most cases for a macho guy sticking to the oldschool gender roles!
My question to self-proclaimed feminists is always this: if it's about equal rights, why not call it egalitarianism, instead of feminism? Naming a movement after one gender implies a bias. There's no getting away from that.
I call myself a gender egalitarian, because I strive for equality among the genders, not for the elevation of one above the other.
Why does the man have a handbag?
@Saiaton I call myself feminist because, acording to all the diccionaries I've read, it means "social doctrine that asks for women the same rights and capacity as men". Whatever a bunch of misandrysts say, that won't change. Here in Spain, there's a difference between feminismo (feminism) and hembrismo (femalism); that last one accords with what you say of despising men, feminism doesn't. And about "feminine"... well, that's more a cultural matter.