I was a single mother for a long time before I met my husband. These people have no idea what it's like to literally be hunting round the house for pennies to buy a pint of milk. Honestly people like this infuriate me. Grow up and stand on your own two feet!
It could also be argued that choosing to be a single mother (if that is the case in a specific situation) is a childish decision and that they knew what they were getting into. That assumes they had a child that the man did not want or that they knew the man would not be around for. In texas maybe not, as they banned abortions. But I mean in a civilized state. Women should be able to have abortions. Men should also be able to abort their rights for the same period of time an abortion is available, if the woman does not want an abortion. It should go both ways and anyone who makes a poor decision should be considered childish. If both parents want to have the child then the man should be on the hook for child support. But right now it is one sided and hurting the fight for abortion rights as well
I'm bookmarking this video, so the next time I get intimidated by law school, I'm going to remember that this frat bro completed law school, passed the bar, and is a practicing attorney.
About 30 minutes in: he took his daughter to see Harry Styles. I used to work with a bloke in the same situation: he'd do fun stuff with his kids instead of paying his ex what he owed. He did it deliberately. The result was the kids thought dad was great, they thought mum was terrible because she didn't take them out to the cinema, concerts, meals etc like dad did. She could barely afford to keep the lights on, never mind anything else.
We call them Disneyland Dads here. POS their entire fatherhood until case set on docket and facing child support, then it’s puppies, trips, and iPhones all around!
Yeah and that works the other way, my ex spent all the money I gave her on garbage all while telling my kids I was a bad dad because I didn't have money to spend on them when they were with me.
Exactly like my x husband, he did the same. Until drugs took over his life. He married my cousin and they both went on a downward spiral and left their kids basically wards of the state.
Incredible that he can be an attorney yet so inarticulate and such a horrible liar...You can just about hear the gears grinding as he stumbles through questioning.
I knew a guy exactly like this. His dad had a 30,000 acre ranch rich beyond belief and several times I was there to do a service his son would be stuck in a ditch in his truck drunk. It was crazy to see how responsible his dad was and how much his son took advantage of his wealth.
He pays $3,850 a month on rent (for a two bedroom???), and he goes on a "staycation" with his daughter in a hotel 3 blocks from his house??? Dang, dude - WTH is wrong with you??? He could move into the condo, give his daughter the room and sleep on the couch while she's there. There are always solutions. I wouldn't leave a guppy with him. He has zero judgement. And he doesn't reeeeeallllly believe that anyone believes he shaved his head and body "just because," does he?? As a mom who paid child support faithfully and for years, I get particularly PO'd with deadbeat parents.
I've seen poor people do the same thing. I'm helping a friend raise her grandkids. The bio mom can't help but the kids clothes, but she can buy a 300 puppy or a $1000 new phone. And she plays this I'm a single mom & need things for not kids, so people give her money ( none go to the kids). Well her Mom works 40+ hrs to keep a roof over the kids heads. I don't have much money, but I always make shur those kids come 1st.
Sounds like perhaps he took his daughter to a hotel because 1. Residue from smoking meth 2. Afraid the drug dealers he owes money to are going to come by
I am 100% certain that he's intentionally not working or looking for work so he can weasel out of child support. He's an attorney, he knows what he's doing.
@@vasily2022because when you are not the custodial parent you need to pay your part of what it cost the parent to raise the child. Your argument is completely ridiculous.
@@vasily2022 and spousal support is temporary and issued because someone who has never worked and cant be thrown into society with no experience and a child to take care of when they spent years married having a spouse support them. It's part of the agreement men take on when proposing to a woman.
Does anyone know where I can find a good lawyer in Ohio to attempt to get retrograde support? I'd hired an attorney in 2021 ONLY because he said he knew how to get under the table income via subpoenas & local averages & that he'd get newe back support from the day she was born because there was never an issue of paternity + attorneys, but the day we had court (during covid) it had to be via phone, not even Zoom, & for some reason it wasn't working with me, father, both attorneys & judge on the line & they were supposed to call us back but never did & continued on with the case without me & father. At that point my attorney settled, agreeing that both of us had NO income, so it was less than starter min, as well as agreed to allow him to claim our daughter every other year. When I got notice of this decision I told my attorney that wasn't acceptable & that's not at all what he said in order for me to hire him, to which he said that I could give him more money to file an appeal. I had no more money as I'd had to borrow his original fee from family promising them the attorney was getting it back from my daughter's father. He never even tried to get attorneys fees or back child support. I need some serious help. I had to represent myself in custody court due to this & thankfully won but don't know how to file for back pay, attorneys fees, subpoenas for previous employers, etc... especially considering he's technically considered a subcontractor & never filed taxes until he was able to claim her...
@@officialluciferagree, he agreed to that when he didn’t want the wife to work or however it was decided. Wife is the one paying 100% of her/there childs expenses bc he knows the court system(not very well)and is using that to try weasle out of everything. Oh all of a sudden he gets NO $ but can spend in excess $2-$5k every month on nonsense. Not one of those charges was rent, bills or withdrawals. $70k in remodeling yet had no $🤔 he is a very dumb lawyer though, bc her lawyer obliterated him w his own documents he submitted lol
I think that was one of my favorite ones. 2 people living in delusional worlds, $400,000 in debt, not a penny to their name, summering in Bora Bora and dropping $500 a night on a hotel 3 blocks from your house where you can't park your Ferrari for some reason.
The 401k withdrawal is cracking me up. He thought he could get away with saying $80k was the total taken out when that’s what was left after all the fees/taxes ect. He and his lawyer are 2 peas in a pod 🤣 IF HE apologizes-ish again I’m going to lose it! 😂
This is painful to listen to 😩. He has to be a horrible lawyer if this is how he represents HIMSELF with going to jail on the line. He's definitely use to just fumbling thru life, everyone just enables him
The dad talks about money like thousands of dollars is pocket change, freaking mind blowing up. When he said that his 401(k) was not a lot it was only 80,000 I am most choked on my drink
So the main point of all this is, dude has money to spend on LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE THING EXCEPT HIS DAUGHTER. So for example, has $350 and buys F-ING SUNGLASSES instead of school fees for his child. What a winner.
Three things: 1) 125% speed was perfect, they sounded midwestern. 2) one got a job and is showing effort, one didn't, regardless of the past, one grew up a bit, the other may need the courts assistance. 3) Dude! not cool! you left me with a massive case of judicial blue balls! The nanny even knows better!
Darn, I was hoping to find out if he was sent to jail. I can't imagine having that much money, having that much debt, and not using it to pay things off. Unbelievable.
This dude reminds me of my father. When I was 16, my mother and father had a nasty child support dispute. It was horrible. My father straight up quit his job and sold all of his assets to prevent paying child support. 30 years later, I have no idea if the man is alive or dead. I hope it's worth it to Kirk.
My brother did that to my niece & is now employed by his gf a mother of 6 that knows how to play the system & her mother barely gets $30 a month (so I pick up the slack & help raise her). I hope it was worth it to your father & I hope my brother feels the burn in 2+ years when she's 16-18 & she doesn't contact him!
@@HughMadBro this guy is so in his own head I doubt he ever reflects on how this nonsense plays out for his child and their relationship. But he’ll go around telling everyone how much he loves his daughter and that she’s his world. He’ll SAY that because he’ll never SHOW it.
@@georgemartin5980 tell me why he stole Christmas photos off my fb to post on his own & play dad of the year. I literally had to lock my Facebook down so he couldn't steal photos. I feel if he doesn't see her he doesn't need to post her 🤷🏼♀️ you nailed that 🔨
Judge Arth listening to this with all the patience of my Italian mother when 16-year-old me was trying to explain “exactly what I thought I was doing”. Lol
If both parents for going out of good faith they wouldn't need to pay attorneys mentioned in like mentioned in the video in front of the judge he neither denies not paying child support he agrees that he hasn't paid child support and his bank statements also show that he could have paid his child support and his obligation the mom had to pay somebody to file all those motions and fall the that paperwork of all the money the father was embezzling/ keeping from his own children
It's absolutely AWFUL to hear the amounts of money being thrown around here. Thousands and thousands of $ borrowed and lent. These children have never grown up because they're being enabled by wealthy parents. It's just gross. PS: I liked the video and am already subbed and a member...it would be awful to hurt Jack's feelings.😜
Between the two of them they literally make barely above the poverty level for a family and their child is in private school and this guy is driving around in a Ferrari spending $500 on RayBans. The delusion is real.
Really sceptical that most of these debts are real. He has no documentation for anything. Minimum, why would the maid loan him money? "I'll work for free and actually hand *you* money?" riiiiiiiight...
We throw Christmas on a card (reward points) and it’s fully paid off by tax time and that’s just about all I can take. $170k. My house didn’t even cost that much😂. He needs to understand the concept of living within your means.
The worry about being in debt would kill me sooner or later. Probably sooner and make me sick all the time. I can't even think about living in debt w/o getting a bad feeling. Never as an adult did I have any debt.... smh.
This poor wife is loving her lawyer right now and is doing an amazing job not laughing out loud and obviously but she’s almost cracked a couple times and her face is priceless at times!
Woooowww! “Dad” is wild. The judge said that he’s a lawyer too? Not one ounce of his testimony ,or whatever the hell this was, makes any sense. At all. It appears, to me and my life experiences and opinion, that Dad has been shoving his face into the adult snow piles before this hearing. Clearly been an issue for a bit too because of the mandatory observed testing. I’m only about halfway through (45:19) so I’m sure I’ll have plenty to add to this when I have finished this video. I didn’t mean for this comment to be so long! Thanks for your patience and time to whoever reads this all. 😊
Dad is worse, and his only life goal seems to be to not be liable for anything ... But mom is in the same ballpark. Less excessive but still outspending any income she might generate in the forseeable future by orders of magnitude ...
Never live beyond your means that’s what we do. We make it. We don’t have any credit card debt. Our cars are paid off and our trucks. Our house is almost paid off. Keep rolling with the flow.❤❤❤❤
Disagree with the Grandparents stepping up. They enabled these 2 right into this dumpster fire and continue to bail them out! One of them needs to hit absolute rock bottom and show the kid how to "build" a life for herself, not have it handed to her. Just my humble opinion.
As a "single father with 6 children, 4-15 yrs. the Judge gave me EVERYTHING, house, kids, 2 cars. She was "ordered to pay support"> an 18 year marriage. She ran off with a 16 yr old. (daughter's ex boyfriend). Her family supported me every step of the way and even came to my wedding.
@@mzbatonrougebeauty5267 That’s what I said. But it never happened. I talked to the victim’s parents about putting and end to the affair. Their answer: We wouldn’t want to ruin the relationship we have with our boy! (36 yrs ago in UT)
@@danstephensen9032 your kids were blessed to have you as a dad...I couldn't imagine. I could date a man even 2 yrs younger than me, much less a damn child...and her child's ex.. how did your daughter handle it? Did they ever fix their mother/daughter relationship?
@@mzbatonrougebeauty5267 Thk you so much, Mz Beauty. God blessed us the whole way! It took many years of therapy (each of us) All have resolved it. God placed an Angel before me when I wasn’t even looking for marriage. My oldest Son and I “had it all going like clockwork”! We were Mr Moms for over 3 years. But my little bride, a stately Southern Belle from Salem VA turned my Life Around! 33rd wedding anniversary coming 18 Aug. Together we raised 7 kids. Be well and be blessed!!
They are perfect for each other!! They are both living outside their means. This plaintiff has her daughter in several extracurricular activities that she can’t afford to pay for. She clearly believes that he should be paying for it all, even if it’s her idea to register her daughter for them.
You're right! He''d probably snort it an choke on the little clear plastic things on the ends. He would summon all his powers of law to file a class action suit against "big shoelace"...the Nike and Addidas empires would fall. Unable to pay pro athlete's endorsements....Vans and Crocs would rule the shoe biz, but mining and manufacturing ceases as noone can figure out how to make steel toed Vans, or Arctic Crocs that. Human birth rates plummet (women over 16 won't do a guy in Crocs or Vans)...but on t he upside this douche received a settlement that was almost enough for him to pay his credit card debt.
Just for all you that see all these people in your life that look like their doing so well. Here is a lawyer, driving around in a Ferrari, spending $463 on sunglasses and routinely having $150+ meals who is UNEMPLOYED has crippling credit card debt, cant pay his half of his old mortgage or his child support, or his child's tuition and doesn't even have $10K saved to pay a lawyer. Everything is not as it seems, most people are barely hanging on struggling to make their outrageous payments and minimums on their credit card debt... if I was American Express seeing this I would IMMEDIATELY cancel his card. He literally lives his life on credit and couldn't survive without it.
There may not be actual Probable Cause, but my "Spidey-Senses" tell me that a search for un-declared cash and illicit drugs at his apartment and condo would tell another story.
I so much miss watching Mike Messer and his " throuple" talk! Watched home faithfully last year when Texas cps court was on zoom w Judge Simms. He is so great to watch.
I like the lawyers first priority here, to get paid, lawyer's gonna lawyer. Also, caught the wife swivelling her chair when things got uncomfortable? Deception and self soothing at its best because she knows she ain't no better. 😂
the mumbling attorney is really not worth 10k…. “are you talking about the broken down Land Cruiser” judge “wait, land cruiser or land rover” mom “it’s a land rover” mumbles “ok fine we’re talking about the range rover” judge “wait wait wait”
Seriously I could watch a movie or I could watch a 90min Law Talk With Mike vid and seriously I'm shocked my local movie cinema isn't trying to sue you for lost revenue. Mad love from Australia as always Mike. Keep being awesome brother!
The funny part is I bet if you were to hire this guy to represent you he would absolutely be hounding you everyday for his payment of services yet he can't seem to be that adamant about paying his responsibility to others
His family will lend him money to pay a lawyer, but won't lend him money to support his kids? They are both flat broke driving Ferarris, BMWs, and Range Rovers. Pure American insanity..
He pledged all that money your honor. How is this guy a lawyer?!? I needed this Mike thank you. I had a rough afternoon at work today. Sorry I missed out on the live.
OH-MY-GAWD This is the 1st video of yours I'm seeing and you are hysterical, definitely gained a new subscriber. That judge has me dying 😂😂😂🤣🤣. If "I don't give AF and stop wasting my time" was a person, that would be this judge 🤣🤣. You know when the attorney said his "little ferrari" that guy wanted to punch him thru the screen 🤣🤣
Maybe he’s not a litigator and couldn’t get such work. He may have zero criminal or litigation law experience. I have 30 plus years practicing solely as corporate counsel, attended a top-tier law school and have a solid professional work history, and I don’t think any PD or other similar agency would hire me.
Omg. My dad was cleaned out in the divorce. He moved back in with my grandparents, in a different state. My parents divorced when I was 4 and I split 50/50 in different states, different schools, until I was a junior in highschool. I shared a room with my dad at my grandparents (my dad had bought them the house) until I was 14. It was awkward and my grandma had to force the issue finally, he had money by then. If you want to have parenting time, you make it.
I am so sick of him saying "uhhh sorry umm I apologize uhhh" he sounds like a spoiled teenager!! And I'm not even halfway through! I'm so glad you posted this because I haven't gotten to watch his courtroom lately
This lawyer needs to be punished for knowingly listing expenses he knows are no longer being paid. I know that form has a required signature under penalty of perjury. I feel horrible for the daughter being raised by these materialistic junkies. I hope it's not too late to save her from going down the same road.
That's not a list of lenders, lol. That's a list of customers. What we really want to know is EBHTCA (Earnings Before Hookers, Toys, Coke, & Amphetamines).
gosh - i got divorced in 2004 - my son was 3 1/2 - we didnt go to court - we werent married that long LOL - I am happy we came to a mutual agreement - and no hate and fighting at that time - this couple is just WOW
If you can agree and you have an honest ex then saving money on lawyer's fees is a blessing. My now ex, who I was married to for 25 years, tried to convince me to just work out an agreement. His plan was to pay me 600 a month for 6 months "so I could get on my feet". Keeping this in mind, I was not on any joint accounts, traded in my only asset for our son's first car, and had quit my career 15 years prior to be a stay at home mom. I did not even have my own pair of shorts or tennis shoes. Fortunately, my mother knew what he was doing and paid for a great divorce attorney, and I was able to have a livable income while I restarted my career. Not every soon to be ex is honest or fair and when you give up everything for them, it is not a wise way to go if you divorce.
I’m almost 2L and have 2 quick questions. 1) why would u want to watch more of this online 😂😂😂 2) would u recommend family law? As in worth💰 for then headache, etc. Thanks 🙏 ❤
@@careybogdanovic7 I try to focus more on criminal stuff when I watch hearings online, but when it crops up it can be interesting to analyze as a family law attorney. I actually think husband's attorney could have done quite a bit more in this video to try and push back against the onslaught, and I don't know the backstory as to why he didn't, but certainly he missed some opportunities to object that I would have made and basically rolled over it seemed, so it can be a good training opportunity. I don't know whether you would want to do family law for a living. It's very challenging in many respects, and you have to learn how to really manage a lot of irrational behavior in clients and you just never know what's going to happen or come up. At this stage in my career, it's what I do and what I know, and I don't have a desire to change practice areas.
Maid service?! Maid service?! Only someone who is rich lists maid service on their budget and doesn't see how ridiculous that looks when they say they have no money!
You literally have to account for every dime on the financial report, so it’s better to put it there than ‘Harry Styles tickets’ or ‘hotel that is only 3 blocks from my house”. 🥴🥴🥴 This couple is an absolute disaster. It’s awful.
I'm sorry but I have a housekeeper who comes in every 2 weeks. I have depression and if I didn't have that my place would look like a hoarders. I pay for that as part of taking care of myself and my home. Absolutely needed. And I'm not rich, I'm not upper middle class. But I also pay my credit card off in full every month unless it is something big and then priority is to pay it off in 3 months.
"She's 12, and needs her own room, so I rented another house and then I couldn't afford to feed her and pay for 2 houses so I moved another guy into her room at the 2nd house and now when she comes to visit I have to rent a 3rd place to stay at a hotel, for $500 a night, because she still doesn't have a room in any of my houses, plus, I can't park my Ferrari at any of my houses so I have to pay for another place to park and then I take an Uber to my Ferrari so I can drive to the hotel where I take my daughter when I have her. But, don't worry cause when I take my amphet@mines, I'm able to contribute a lot of sweat equity so I might be able to afford gas for my Ferrari some day, and I paid for my daughter to eat lunch a whole 6 times last semester." Did I understand the finances right? I'm not a financial expert, but I have balanced my checking account once or twice, and I'm thinking that this isn't really sustainable.
Maid Service! Clean his place himself since he has plenty of spare time. Cable service. Read a book from the library! This guy knows nothing about living frugally. He also forgot his Meth costs. His lawyer reminds me of my ex's who padded my ex's expenses.
He didn't just start acting like this. He likely presented as a guy with all kinds of glorious plans to make a ton of money and constantly talked up his idea of his abilities to this woman. And she fell for it. Do credit reports and background checks on potential people who are presenting as being interested in a relationship. And then go by the report, not the person's excuses for how bad the reports are.
lol. I'm in the US and there's a "translate to English" option for your comment. It changes the s to z in "apologise." I'm wondering if there's a translate option for "apologize" in the UK?
@@Hello_Grendel Amazing. I translated this US conversation into UK: 🇺🇸 “I applogize for the color of the faucets in the rest room. I will go ahead and change them. My attorney has the details. Meanwhile I am travelling to the gas station down the interstate with a whole bunch of cookies in the trunk of my Escalade. I am wearing good pants today and ate cilantro with my fries”. 🇬🇧 “I apologise for the colour of the taps in the toilet. I will change them. My solicitor has the details. Meanwhile I am driving to the petrol station down the motorway with a load of biscuits in the boot of my Bentley. I am wearing good underwear today and ate coriander with my chips” 😂
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I was a single mother for a long time before I met my husband. These people have no idea what it's like to literally be hunting round the house for pennies to buy a pint of milk. Honestly people like this infuriate me. Grow up and stand on your own two feet!
Or shaking out piggy banks for lunch money at school!
It could also be argued that choosing to be a single mother (if that is the case in a specific situation) is a childish decision and that they knew what they were getting into. That assumes they had a child that the man did not want or that they knew the man would not be around for. In texas maybe not, as they banned abortions. But I mean in a civilized state. Women should be able to have abortions. Men should also be able to abort their rights for the same period of time an abortion is available, if the woman does not want an abortion. It should go both ways and anyone who makes a poor decision should be considered childish. If both parents want to have the child then the man should be on the hook for child support. But right now it is one sided and hurting the fight for abortion rights as well
@@ThatSB I don't live in the usa. There are many reasons why parents become single parents (mothers and fathers)
@@ThatSBYou sound so stupid. Men leaving creates single mothers, but keep solely blaming the women.
Are you telling the mother in this scenario to stand on her own 2 feet? And just relieve the father of any financial responsibility????
I'm bookmarking this video, so the next time I get intimidated by law school, I'm going to remember that this frat bro completed law school, passed the bar, and is a practicing attorney.
No shi%$ I was thinking the same thing
I missed the part that said he was a lawyer hahaha omg what an idiot
You mean Mike? Lol, hahaha
He was fired from Snow IT.
Passed the bar- maybe, but practicing- definitely not!!! Especially since he doesn't remember the last time he worked. Haha.
About 30 minutes in: he took his daughter to see Harry Styles. I used to work with a bloke in the same situation: he'd do fun stuff with his kids instead of paying his ex what he owed.
He did it deliberately.
The result was the kids thought dad was great, they thought mum was terrible because she didn't take them out to the cinema, concerts, meals etc like dad did. She could barely afford to keep the lights on, never mind anything else.
We call them Disneyland Dads here. POS their entire fatherhood until case set on docket and facing child support, then it’s puppies, trips, and iPhones all around!
Ditto that was the ex`s tactic but now they are grown they know I am the reliable and dependable parent
Yep currently in that situation
Yeah and that works the other way, my ex spent all the money I gave her on garbage all while telling my kids I was a bad dad because I didn't have money to spend on them when they were with me.
Exactly like my x husband, he did the same. Until drugs took over his life. He married my cousin and they both went on a downward spiral and left their kids basically wards of the state.
Incredible that he can be an attorney yet so inarticulate and such a horrible liar...You can just about hear the gears grinding as he stumbles through questioning.
He is trying so hard not to get caught being a dead beat lol. Maybe he can't get a job because he is a terrible attorney, sure sounds like one.
It's hard to be articulate when you are stoned!
It's an act!! Lol
He could possibly be high as well!
It's ridiculous!
And the judge called him on it. That was delicious.
I love that he remembers the exact date he cut all his hair off but can’t remember the last time he worked and earned any money. 🤦🏻♀️
Cocaine. 🤣
Bruh ..
I kept yelling just ask , "When did you last file taxes?"
High-end living and he has no job. I'm thinking IRS audit time.
Not suspicious at all 🤣
Wow!!! 😰
I knew a guy exactly like this. His dad had a 30,000 acre ranch rich beyond belief and several times I was there to do a service his son would be stuck in a ditch in his truck drunk. It was crazy to see how responsible his dad was and how much his son took advantage of his wealth.
He pays $3,850 a month on rent (for a two bedroom???), and he goes on a "staycation" with his daughter in a hotel 3 blocks from his house??? Dang, dude - WTH is wrong with you??? He could move into the condo, give his daughter the room and sleep on the couch while she's there. There are always solutions. I wouldn't leave a guppy with him. He has zero judgement. And he doesn't reeeeeallllly believe that anyone believes he shaved his head and body "just because," does he?? As a mom who paid child support faithfully and for years, I get particularly PO'd with deadbeat parents.
It’s how the rich live, you should see the shenanigans they think is normal
I've seen poor people do the same thing. I'm helping a friend raise her grandkids. The bio mom can't help but the kids clothes, but she can buy a 300 puppy or a $1000 new phone. And she plays this I'm a single mom & need things for not kids, so people give her money ( none go to the kids). Well her Mom works 40+ hrs to keep a roof over the kids heads. I don't have much money, but I always make shur those kids come 1st.
I'm slightly at a loss, as to mothers who lose custody of their children and have to pay child support in the first place.
But whatever...
Nah, he was banging chicks at hotel so he could keep up appearance of being rich guy with Ferrari
Sounds like perhaps he took his daughter to a hotel because
1. Residue from smoking meth
2. Afraid the drug dealers he owes money to are going to come by
I am 100% certain that he's intentionally not working or looking for work so he can weasel out of child support. He's an attorney, he knows what he's doing.
Riddle me this... Women are equal to men right? Why does he have to pay over $2k a month to the ex wife? Can't she work?
@@vasily2022because when you are not the custodial parent you need to pay your part of what it cost the parent to raise the child. Your argument is completely ridiculous.
@@vasily2022 and spousal support is temporary and issued because someone who has never worked and cant be thrown into society with no experience and a child to take care of when they spent years married having a spouse support them. It's part of the agreement men take on when proposing to a woman.
Does anyone know where I can find a good lawyer in Ohio to attempt to get retrograde support? I'd hired an attorney in 2021 ONLY because he said he knew how to get under the table income via subpoenas & local averages & that he'd get newe back support from the day she was born because there was never an issue of paternity + attorneys, but the day we had court (during covid) it had to be via phone, not even Zoom, & for some reason it wasn't working with me, father, both attorneys & judge on the line & they were supposed to call us back but never did & continued on with the case without me & father. At that point my attorney settled, agreeing that both of us had NO income, so it was less than starter min, as well as agreed to allow him to claim our daughter every other year. When I got notice of this decision I told my attorney that wasn't acceptable & that's not at all what he said in order for me to hire him, to which he said that I could give him more money to file an appeal. I had no more money as I'd had to borrow his original fee from family promising them the attorney was getting it back from my daughter's father. He never even tried to get attorneys fees or back child support. I need some serious help. I had to represent myself in custody court due to this & thankfully won but don't know how to file for back pay, attorneys fees, subpoenas for previous employers, etc... especially considering he's technically considered a subcontractor & never filed taxes until he was able to claim her...
@@officialluciferagree, he agreed to that when he didn’t want the wife to work or however it was decided. Wife is the one paying 100% of her/there childs expenses bc he knows the court system(not very well)and is using that to try weasle out of everything. Oh all of a sudden he gets NO $ but can spend in excess $2-$5k every month on nonsense. Not one of those charges was rent, bills or withdrawals. $70k in remodeling yet had no $🤔 he is a very dumb lawyer though, bc her lawyer obliterated him w his own documents he submitted lol
I am beginning to understand why he is not currently employed as an attorney.
Right? A man who represents himself has a fool for a client. Except that man… any client would be a fool to hire him!
Who?
@@bethewalt7385 The lawyer that was representing himself.
😂
What do you think his chances are after this public debacle?
I think that was one of my favorite ones. 2 people living in delusional worlds, $400,000 in debt, not a penny to their name, summering in Bora Bora and dropping $500 a night on a hotel 3 blocks from your house where you can't park your Ferrari for some reason.
He didn’t do the drug test until Thanksgiving, because he had to wait to get a prescription for Adderall and he had to get a hair appointment…
The 401k withdrawal is cracking me up. He thought he could get away with saying $80k was the total taken out when that’s what was left after all the fees/taxes ect. He and his lawyer are 2 peas in a pod 🤣
IF HE apologizes-ish again I’m going to lose it! 😂
Mike cracking himself up, not realizing he’s on mute.😂
He can attach this hearing to his resume when applying to law firms. That should seal the deal for him.
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This is painful to listen to 😩. He has to be a horrible lawyer if this is how he represents HIMSELF with going to jail on the line. He's definitely use to just fumbling thru life, everyone just enables him
Yup
The dad talks about money like thousands of dollars is pocket change, freaking mind blowing up. When he said that his 401(k) was not a lot it was only 80,000 I am most choked on my drink
This judge could not be more “done” with both sides. The tutoring on how to present an exhibit was the height of passive aggressive
“Did we forget how to do that (exhibits)?” My favorite moment of the whole video!
Lol, he was done about 30 seconds after the first lawyer started talking.
This dude is sorry for everything, mostly he's just a sorry excuse for a human being.
West Virginia here
So the main point of all this is, dude has money to spend on LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE THING EXCEPT HIS DAUGHTER. So for example, has $350 and buys F-ING SUNGLASSES instead of school fees for his child. What a winner.
$468
Three things: 1) 125% speed was perfect, they sounded midwestern. 2) one got a job and is showing effort, one didn't, regardless of the past, one grew up a bit, the other may need the courts assistance. 3) Dude! not cool! you left me with a massive case of judicial blue balls! The nanny even knows better!
She would have never done that to you😂😂😂
Judicial blue balls 🤣
Yes I massively disagree with calling the mom a Karen, she deserves her child support, leave her alone 🙄
this needs to be shown to EVERYONE who will ever hope to hire him as a lawyer...any case they hire him for they WILL lose.
Making it even harder to pay his ex 🤣🤣
That she hasn’t paid 😂😂😂
Omg, the lawyer is mopping the floor with this guy
I wanna hold Mike in contempt for laughing at appropriate moments 😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤
Darn, I was hoping to find out if he was sent to jail. I can't imagine having that much money, having that much debt, and not using it to pay things off. Unbelievable.
We all know he's spending lavishly on daily haircuts and body waxing! 🤣
Probably a closet full of designer clothes too. 🙄
That’s what you call having a drug problem.
Smoke and mirrors, it's for an image, ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL.
This dude reminds me of my father. When I was 16, my mother and father had a nasty child support dispute. It was horrible. My father straight up quit his job and sold all of his assets to prevent paying child support. 30 years later, I have no idea if the man is alive or dead. I hope it's worth it to Kirk.
That's terrible! I'm so sorry. This was disgusting to witness & I feel sorry for his child. What a deadbeat a-hole(him & your bio dad lol)
@@missyhays444 thank you 🙏😍
My brother did that to my niece & is now employed by his gf a mother of 6 that knows how to play the system & her mother barely gets $30 a month (so I pick up the slack & help raise her). I hope it was worth it to your father & I hope my brother feels the burn in 2+ years when she's 16-18 & she doesn't contact him!
@@HughMadBro this guy is so in his own head I doubt he ever reflects on how this nonsense plays out for his child and their relationship. But he’ll go around telling everyone how much he loves his daughter and that she’s his world. He’ll SAY that because he’ll never SHOW it.
@@georgemartin5980 tell me why he stole Christmas photos off my fb to post on his own & play dad of the year. I literally had to lock my Facebook down so he couldn't steal photos. I feel if he doesn't see her he doesn't need to post her 🤷🏼♀️ you nailed that 🔨
Never thought a guy with a Ferrari would make me feel better about my own finances…
I never thought a lawyer would make me feel smarter than them 😂
These people are living SO far above their means! It’s disgusting!
…on other people’s money at that.
Cool name
If he is paying half her mortgage, Then that's more than enough.
These people are both out of control
My taught exactly
Judge Arth listening to this with all the patience of my Italian mother when 16-year-old me was trying to explain “exactly what I thought I was doing”. Lol
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The attorney fees will still leave the kids without just as the dad has done. What a flawed system
If both parents for going out of good faith they wouldn't need to pay attorneys mentioned in like mentioned in the video in front of the judge he neither denies not paying child support he agrees that he hasn't paid child support and his bank statements also show that he could have paid his child support and his obligation the mom had to pay somebody to file all those motions and fall the that paperwork of all the money the father was embezzling/ keeping from his own children
Is he drunk? Is he currently getting drunk off whatever is in that cup? 😂😂😂😂😂
It doesn't seem to matter. It's your blood level when everyone has had enough.
Judge Arth sitting back in his chair like hurry this sh1t up and please tell me why the hell your here today!!! LMFAO
It's absolutely AWFUL to hear the amounts of money being thrown around here. Thousands and thousands of $ borrowed and lent. These children have never grown up because they're being enabled by wealthy parents. It's just gross.
PS: I liked the video and am already subbed and a member...it would be awful to hurt Jack's feelings.😜
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Between the two of them they literally make barely above the poverty level for a family and their child is in private school and this guy is driving around in a Ferrari spending $500 on RayBans. The delusion is real.
Really sceptical that most of these debts are real. He has no documentation for anything. Minimum, why would the maid loan him money? "I'll work for free and actually hand *you* money?" riiiiiiiight...
@@nctpti2073 good point
@@ATLTraveler this is so funny but sadly true🤣😂🤣
My guy's not just a trip; He's a whole damn journey! Lol.
$170k in credit card debt? I would die of a heart attack. I have about 3% of that and I think that is a lot 😂
I have a 800 dollar balance on one card and it increases my blood pressure
We throw Christmas on a card (reward points) and it’s fully paid off by tax time and that’s just about all I can take. $170k. My house didn’t even cost that much😂. He needs to understand the concept of living within your means.
The worry about being in debt would kill me sooner or later. Probably sooner and make me sick all the time. I can't even think about living in debt w/o getting a bad feeling. Never as an adult did I have any debt.... smh.
Right?
$42,000 attorney’s fees. And I’d still never do family law.
Good GAWD I love this channel. Throupple and a delicious moment of Mike doing another long comment without unmuting. Keep up the great work.
This poor wife is loving her lawyer right now and is doing an amazing job not laughing out loud and obviously but she’s almost cracked a couple times and her face is priceless at times!
She picked this loser 🤦🏻♂️
Woooowww! “Dad” is wild. The judge said that he’s a lawyer too? Not one ounce of his testimony ,or whatever the hell this was, makes any sense. At all. It appears, to me and my life experiences and opinion, that Dad has been shoving his face into the adult snow piles before this hearing. Clearly been an issue for a bit too because of the mandatory observed testing. I’m only about halfway through (45:19) so I’m sure I’ll have plenty to add to this when I have finished this video.
I didn’t mean for this comment to be so long! Thanks for your patience and time to whoever reads this all. 😊
Please educate me. I'm grateful.
Dad is worse, and his only life goal seems to be to not be liable for anything ... But mom is in the same ballpark. Less excessive but still outspending any income she might generate in the forseeable future by orders of magnitude ...
How is he licensed as an attorney this is scary.
They’re living like kardashians when they can afford to live like waitresses 😭😭😭
Never live beyond your means that’s what we do. We make it. We don’t have any credit card debt. Our cars are paid off and our trucks. Our house is almost paid off. Keep rolling with the flow.❤❤❤❤
I love this attorney 😆
I think Mr. Larson was one of those who's parents bought his way through law school.
Disagree with the Grandparents stepping up. They enabled these 2 right into this dumpster fire and continue to bail them out! One of them needs to hit absolute rock bottom and show the kid how to "build" a life for herself, not have it handed to her.
Just my humble opinion.
Great observation!
As a "single father with 6 children, 4-15 yrs. the Judge gave me EVERYTHING, house, kids, 2 cars. She was
"ordered to pay support"> an 18 year marriage. She ran off with a 16 yr old. (daughter's ex boyfriend).
Her family supported me every step of the way and even came to my wedding.
A 16yr old? She should be in prison
@@mzbatonrougebeauty5267 That’s what I said. But it never happened. I talked to the victim’s parents about putting and end to the affair. Their answer: We wouldn’t want to ruin the relationship we have with our boy! (36 yrs ago in UT)
@@danstephensen9032 wow ... She was a damn predator
@@danstephensen9032 your kids were blessed to have you as a dad...I couldn't imagine. I could date a man even 2 yrs younger than me, much less a damn child...and her child's ex.. how did your daughter handle it? Did they ever fix their mother/daughter relationship?
@@mzbatonrougebeauty5267 Thk you so much, Mz Beauty. God blessed us the whole way! It took many years of therapy (each of us) All have resolved it. God placed an Angel before me when I wasn’t even looking for marriage. My oldest Son and I “had it all going like clockwork”! We were Mr Moms for over 3 years. But my little bride, a stately Southern Belle from Salem VA turned my Life Around! 33rd wedding anniversary coming 18 Aug. Together we raised 7 kids.
Be well and be blessed!!
I didn’t think anyone could be worse than my ex who called my attorney “kinky!” I stand corrected. This guy is high as a kite.
Lol what were they saying kinky in response to I'm curious now
They are perfect for each other!! They are both living outside their means. This plaintiff has her daughter in several extracurricular activities that she can’t afford to pay for. She clearly believes that he should be paying for it all, even if it’s her idea to register her daughter for them.
The way this guy handles money there is NO WAY he should be starting his own business! :)
As soon as they mentioned cocaine it all made sense to me. Before that I knew the guy had a problem with something, I just didn't know what.
I wouldn't trust this guy alone with a shoelace.
You're right! He''d probably snort it an choke on the little clear plastic things on the ends. He would summon all his powers of law to file a class action suit against "big shoelace"...the Nike and Addidas empires would fall. Unable to pay pro athlete's endorsements....Vans and Crocs would rule the shoe biz, but mining and manufacturing ceases as noone can figure out how to make steel toed Vans, or Arctic Crocs that. Human birth rates plummet (women over 16 won't do a guy in Crocs or Vans)...but on t he upside this douche received a settlement that was almost enough for him to pay his credit card debt.
“Have you worked?” “How do you define work?” 😂😂😂😂 no way Mr. Kirk is a lawyer 🤦🏻♀️
Just for all you that see all these people in your life that look like their doing so well. Here is a lawyer, driving around in a Ferrari, spending $463 on sunglasses and routinely having $150+ meals who is UNEMPLOYED has crippling credit card debt, cant pay his half of his old mortgage or his child support, or his child's tuition and doesn't even have $10K saved to pay a lawyer. Everything is not as it seems, most people are barely hanging on struggling to make their outrageous payments and minimums on their credit card debt... if I was American Express seeing this I would IMMEDIATELY cancel his card. He literally lives his life on credit and couldn't survive without it.
He is not unemployed! He is hiding income. "What do you mean by job?" oooohhh please.
There may not be actual Probable Cause, but my "Spidey-Senses" tell me that a search for un-declared cash and illicit drugs at his apartment and condo would tell another story.
I so much miss watching Mike Messer and his " throuple" talk! Watched home faithfully last year when Texas cps court was on zoom w Judge Simms. He is so great to watch.
I like the lawyers first priority here, to get paid, lawyer's gonna lawyer.
Also, caught the wife swivelling her chair when things got uncomfortable? Deception and self soothing at its best because she knows she ain't no better. 😂
Agree! Birds of a feather flock together.
It REALLY cracked me up when the judge had to remind Kirk's attorney on how to present and submit evidence. ROFL
Awww...even if you can't laugh at whatever Mike is saying, you can laugh that the doofus is on a roll while muted. 🤣🤣🤣
the mumbling attorney is really not worth 10k…. “are you talking about the broken down Land Cruiser”
judge “wait, land cruiser or land rover”
mom “it’s a land rover”
mumbles “ok fine we’re talking about the range rover”
judge “wait wait wait”
Seriously I could watch a movie or I could watch a 90min Law Talk With Mike vid and seriously I'm shocked my local movie cinema isn't trying to sue you for lost revenue. Mad love from Australia as always Mike. Keep being awesome brother!
Don't give the cinema any ideas.
Same here
The funny part is I bet if you were to hire this guy to represent you he would absolutely be hounding you everyday for his payment of services yet he can't seem to be that adamant about paying his responsibility to others
You actually have a great point right there...💯
I can almost hear him pull out the drawer beside him out of view of the camera, and start snipping back his nails as far as possible. 😂
Lol
His family will lend him money to pay a lawyer, but won't lend him money to support his kids? They are both flat broke driving Ferarris, BMWs, and Range Rovers. Pure American insanity..
Damn, I have worked my whole life in extremely dangerous jobs and have never been to French Polynesia, these people are ridiculous.
I don't think I've ever seen someone so coked up while in court. That dude is zooted to the moon.
He pledged all that money your honor. How is this guy a lawyer?!? I needed this Mike thank you. I had a rough afternoon at work today. Sorry I missed out on the live.
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Love to you from Sherry D. from Arizona! I hope everyone is just plain decent and respectful to you and yours tomorrow. It could happen.
Not “Pledged”😂😂😂😂
OH-MY-GAWD This is the 1st video of yours I'm seeing and you are hysterical, definitely gained a new subscriber. That judge has me dying 😂😂😂🤣🤣. If "I don't give AF and stop wasting my time" was a person, that would be this judge 🤣🤣. You know when the attorney said his "little ferrari" that guy wanted to punch him thru the screen 🤣🤣
51:18 Moment his attorney realises he's not getting paid
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He hasn’t paid mortgage in four months!! The condo is probably into foreclosure!!
How hard could it be for a licensed attorney to get work?
Not very. Public Defenders and appointed Council always need attorneys. Not that I'd want him representing me, but there's work! 100% guaranteed.
He’s an addict and word is out
Maybe he’s not a litigator and couldn’t get such work. He may have zero criminal or litigation law experience. I have 30 plus years practicing solely as corporate counsel, attended a top-tier law school and have a solid professional work history, and I don’t think any PD or other similar agency would hire me.
Oh sure they would you just wouldn’t like the paycheck 😂
you are usually interviewed by the managing partner before you are hired and would you hire this dude?
BLESS HIS HEART...HE'S HIGH AS ALL GET OUT...
Omg. My dad was cleaned out in the divorce. He moved back in with my grandparents, in a different state. My parents divorced when I was 4 and I split 50/50 in different states, different schools, until I was a junior in highschool. I shared a room with my dad at my grandparents (my dad had bought them the house) until I was 14. It was awkward and my grandma had to force the issue finally, he had money by then. If you want to have parenting time, you make it.
Drug test today - POSITIVE. He's a total space cadet and apparently a bad lawyer if he can't get a job or clients
I am so sick of him saying "uhhh sorry umm I apologize uhhh" he sounds like a spoiled teenager!! And I'm not even halfway through! I'm so glad you posted this because I haven't gotten to watch his courtroom lately
OBJECTION... he thought it was glue 🤣
This lawyer needs to be punished for knowingly listing expenses he knows are no longer being paid. I know that form has a required signature under penalty of perjury. I feel horrible for the daughter being raised by these materialistic junkies. I hope it's not too late to save her from going down the same road.
Amen! His incessant apologies were 🤯🤬
Not sure why he did that, but maybe he had some kind of "justification"? Giving him a bit of grace here, but my side-eyeing is present.
This is becoming one of my favorite channels! I appreciate your good work!
That's not a list of lenders, lol. That's a list of customers. What we really want to know is EBHTCA (Earnings Before Hookers, Toys, Coke, & Amphetamines).
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Opposite of EBITA! Love it!
hahah “has your hair grown back enough for a drug screen”
“no, hopefully soon, i read on google it take 6 months for….. hair to grow enough to test”
gosh - i got divorced in 2004 - my son was 3 1/2 - we didnt go to court - we werent married that long LOL - I am happy we came to a mutual agreement - and no hate and fighting at that time - this couple is just WOW
I knew my first marriage wasn't going to last, which is why I decided not to have kids. Easy to get out. Sounds like your divorce was pretty civil.
If you can agree and you have an honest ex then saving money on lawyer's fees is a blessing. My now ex, who I was married to for 25 years, tried to convince me to just work out an agreement. His plan was to pay me 600 a month for 6 months "so I could get on my feet". Keeping this in mind, I was not on any joint accounts, traded in my only asset for our son's first car, and had quit my career 15 years prior to be a stay at home mom. I did not even have my own pair of shorts or tennis shoes. Fortunately, my mother knew what he was doing and paid for a great divorce attorney, and I was able to have a livable income while I restarted my career. Not every soon to be ex is honest or fair and when you give up everything for them, it is not a wise way to go if you divorce.
As an Austin resident who knows all these places, I am appalled.
A condo on 6th can be sold for 750k to 3.5 million.
I need more info on the dead beat attorney in case I need legal help . He sounds so competent and transparent
Private school unpaid? But there's a Ferrari in the driveway? These people are a disaster.
Great summation you did at the end of the video on these two! As a family law attorney, I see so many of these folks day in / day out.
I’m almost 2L and have 2 quick questions. 1) why would u want to watch more of this online 😂😂😂
2) would u recommend family law? As in worth💰 for then headache, etc.
Thanks 🙏 ❤
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@@careybogdanovic7 I try to focus more on criminal stuff when I watch hearings online, but when it crops up it can be interesting to analyze as a family law attorney. I actually think husband's attorney could have done quite a bit more in this video to try and push back against the onslaught, and I don't know the backstory as to why he didn't, but certainly he missed some opportunities to object that I would have made and basically rolled over it seemed, so it can be a good training opportunity. I don't know whether you would want to do family law for a living. It's very challenging in many respects, and you have to learn how to really manage a lot of irrational behavior in clients and you just never know what's going to happen or come up. At this stage in my career, it's what I do and what I know, and I don't have a desire to change practice areas.
You're getting to be as bad as that guys dealer!! Getting me involved and laughing at this dumpster fire then not having the conclusion!!!
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"Money just gose🤷♂️" quote of the year
Something Michael Scott would say 😂 💳
She has sat still and quiet and watching them devour him. How quaint and sweet!!!
How inept, I think he’s wasted now, never have I heard anyone apologize so much to the judge and attorneys “my apologies”
Holy crap, Kirk is high off his rocker during this hearing 😂
That cotton mouth!
I was thinking the same. The judge should notice it.
EXACTLY
That dude's attorney is like WTF did I get myself into??? 😆 😆 The wife's attorney came out swiiiiiiinging
Maid service?! Maid service?! Only someone who is rich lists maid service on their budget and doesn't see how ridiculous that looks when they say they have no money!
You literally have to account for every dime on the financial report, so it’s better to put it there than ‘Harry Styles tickets’ or ‘hotel that is only 3 blocks from my house”. 🥴🥴🥴 This couple is an absolute disaster. It’s awful.
I'm sorry but I have a housekeeper who comes in every 2 weeks. I have depression and if I didn't have that my place would look like a hoarders. I pay for that as part of taking care of myself and my home. Absolutely needed. And I'm not rich, I'm not upper middle class. But I also pay my credit card off in full every month unless it is something big and then priority is to pay it off in 3 months.
Wouldn't you think, being an attorney, he would come more prepared for a hearing???
Cut him some slack. He apologizes!!
Drugs are bad
that's not fair, the sun was in his eyes while trying to sign the child support check, so he needed those sunglasses..
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This guy won’t become an attorney, he can’t keep himself straight lol!!
And anyone count how many "my apologies" he said?? 😵💫
Ugh, it was unbearable!
No i didn't, my apologies
Yep almost smashed my tv!!!
"She's 12, and needs her own room, so I rented another house and then I couldn't afford to feed her and pay for 2 houses so I moved another guy into her room at the 2nd house and now when she comes to visit I have to rent a 3rd place to stay at a hotel, for $500 a night, because she still doesn't have a room in any of my houses, plus, I can't park my Ferrari at any of my houses so I have to pay for another place to park and then I take an Uber to my Ferrari so I can drive to the hotel where I take my daughter when I have her. But, don't worry cause when I take my amphet@mines, I'm able to contribute a lot of sweat equity so I might be able to afford gas for my Ferrari some day, and I paid for my daughter to eat lunch a whole 6 times last semester."
Did I understand the finances right? I'm not a financial expert, but I have balanced my checking account once or twice, and I'm thinking that this isn't really sustainable.
Their/his finances screams addiction
MIKE ..IT WAS SO COLD IN CHICAGO TODAY...I SEEN AN LAWYER WITH HIS HANDS IN HIS OWN POCKETS !
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I can't even fathom that much credit card debt...
Maid Service! Clean his place himself since he has plenty of spare time. Cable service. Read a book from the library! This guy knows nothing about living frugally. He also forgot his Meth costs. His lawyer reminds me of my ex's who padded my ex's expenses.
He didn't just start acting like this. He likely presented as a guy with all kinds of glorious plans to make a ton of money and constantly talked up his idea of his abilities to this woman. And she fell for it. Do credit reports and background checks on potential people who are presenting as being interested in a relationship. And then go by the report, not the person's excuses for how bad the reports are.
Arth was my Ex’s attorney when we got divorced. He was pretty thorough.
How on earth can this guy be a lawyer. He cannot put a sentence together.
Why does a large percentage of southern lawyers resemble colonel sanders?
It’s just the law south of the Mason Dixon line
Kirk: “I apologise” “I apologise” “I apologise” “I apologise” “I apologise” “I apologise” “I apologise” “I apologise”
lol. I'm in the US and there's a "translate to English" option for your comment. It changes the s to z in "apologise."
I'm wondering if there's a translate option for "apologize" in the UK?
@@Hello_Grendel Amazing. I translated this US conversation into UK:
🇺🇸 “I applogize for the color of the faucets in the rest room. I will go ahead and change them. My attorney has the details. Meanwhile I am travelling to the gas station down the interstate with a whole bunch of cookies in the trunk of my Escalade. I am wearing good pants today and ate cilantro with my fries”.
🇬🇧 “I apologise for the colour of the taps in the toilet. I will change them. My solicitor has the details. Meanwhile I am driving to the petrol station down the motorway with a load of biscuits in the boot of my Bentley. I am wearing good underwear today and ate coriander with my chips” 😂