Hey, so I'll be bringing more budget laptops soon. I've got an HP Omen 15 coming soon, probably shipped out to me today (it was delayed). I want to cover some laptops around the $1000 mark, so stay tuned. Just a matter of time, it can be tough getting my hands on them sometimes.
You should have gotten the maxed out version since is the option no one has done a review on, well Dave Lee did but I really didn't like it maybe you can do one in the near future. By the way I really like your reviews they are very detail and you cover basically everything about the laptop keep up the hard work.
Lmaoo dude there's been so many times where my gf hears prices. Ill buy thr product and shell say "isn't that like 700!." "Nawww that was a diff one.. this was was 350" 😂😂
Wow... tbh, I wasn't expecting you to hit such specific points and go in-depth like you did in the video. This is exactly what I wanted, so thank you. Great video and keep it up
@@micahfreeman3412 update: it's nothing but a powerhouse, phenomenal, to anyone thinking about dropping the cash on one, seriously go for it, i can max out any game and it runs perfect, 10/10 from me
Nihilist I’m ordering mine today. I can not wait for it to come in haha. How’s the battery? And thermals? I’ve heard mixed reviews on those topics from its super cool to it gets pretty hot, and from it last one hour to it lasts 4 hrs
@@micahfreeman3412 i'll be completely honest with you i've never really been too interested about thermals etc, but i can tell you it doesn't get hot really when maxing out the cpu in game, it's not loud either, the speakers built in are great and override the fans, but the core temps i've seen after playing like red dead 2 is like 75-85C so, i don't think that's too hot? i've had mine plugged in on charge pretty much constantly, but when i unplug it it says it has a few hours remaining, so i wouldn't suggest gaming on the battery because it'll die pretty quickly, i guess this is just because how much power it runs
Did you go 17 or 15? Was gonna go 15 but i can get the 17 with same specs for the same price right now and it seems silly to pay the same price for 2” less laptop
I've been using the 2019 Blade 15 for a little over a year now. I love! It does run pretty warm during gaming sessions (CPU ~98°C in Rocket League as an example). The one thing I miss is the number pad. I had to use my laptop to work-from-home for a little while. I use AutoCAD at work and I really missed the number pad. I had to buy a bluetooth number pad just to get anything done. I'm really thinking of upgrading to a 17" with a number pad and with a new Nvidia 3xxx series graphics card next year. That Alienware machine looks pretty sleek and sexy. Build quality is important to me. I'm tired of all the plasticy and blingy gaming laptops. The Alienware is probably the flashiest I'm willing to go. I'm sure I could turn off all the chroma lights?
@@basilthepitty8720, I love it. It runs everything I throw at it. When in power saver mode I can surf the web and watch Netflix for hours. I haven't timed it but I think it can probably go 5 hours or so. If you don't put it in power saver mode you will only get about an hour and a half of use. One thing that I noticed right after purchase is that the laptop drastically throttles when on battery only. I thought I could play unplugged for an hour but it's not possible on a demanding game. You have to be plugged in to fully power the graphics card. I think this is a limitation of the battery. I normally plug it in anyways... but thought I'd mention that. If I play Rocket League unplugged it averages 80fps which is playable. I think RL is more CPU intensive but I'm not to sure. It definitely struggles when loading the game and changing screens when gaming unplugged. All in all, I love the laptop. Best computer I've ever owned. I just love being able to use it anywhere and everywhere and not being tied-down to a stationary PC like before. I also plug an HDMI cable in and play on my projector screen. Red Dead Redemption 2 on a 100" screen is pretty awesome!
@@icypirate11 hi mate just read your comment! I'm a student who is learning Architecture and I'm going to be using AutoCad alot! They have recommended me to buy a Microsoft Surface Book 2 for around the same price as the Razer Blade Pro 17". I'm thinking of getting the Razer as it has a lot of better graphics than the one they suggested. And in my 2nd % 3rd year we will be using AutoCad alot. Would you say this is a good laptop to buy for using these softwares?
Hey, what’s the battery life for average use. Like watching TH-cam or browsing the internet? I’m buying one, don’t really need such a powerful laptop but I like the looks of it. Any help or adobe would really help! Thanks!!!
Dude your b-roll and lighting is insanely good. I often times got distracted by how crisp and beautiful everything looked that I had to rewind to hear what you were saying. Seriously great stuff man. Keep it up!
Sir Galahad I’ve got to give credit where credit is due. My fiancé Carla has been my assistant and has shot most of the b-roll. She’s doing a great job!
I'm just commenting to express support. You're videos may not be as polished as other reviewers' out there but you do mention some nerdy details that make the difference! Cheers
I got Razer Pro 17. 4K Screen is so good. Reason I got RBP is I wanted Windows laptop which can come closer in terms of build quality and simplistic design like Macbook pro. Cool you are the first one to compare it if i am not wrong. keep it up with good work.
@@christmasisawesome9348 Another user of RBP 2020 with 4k 120hz, touch etc. here. I bought it around May-June and since then there have been no regrets, even though I've not been able to travel as much as normally would have so been mostly using it as a desktop replacement. Do note that while you can make the point that it's overpriced for the specs, it makes almost no sacrifices in any other field (beside that they should try to copy the speaker tech from Macbooks). Let me know if you have more specific questions though about it if you're curious how it is to use :)
Unfortunately couldn't find a direct link to buy Alienware on Amazon (beside that 1 active high end ones on Best notebooks) It seems the only way to get one is through Dell's website...
@@GizmoSlipTech Hi again Brandon ( if I may) I was going to buy an Alienware m17, with i7( 10th gen), 2070super, 32Gb ram on FHD 300hz option, suddenly one of my friends came with the idea of a MSI GE75 with exact same configs in about 360$ less price As I was excited about this new option I came across the CPU thermal issues on MSI GE75 which some ppl mentioned on comments and some TH-cam videos This has bring 2nd thoughts and I can't decide between these 2 I recently found ur channel and admire your work and independency in this topic , I thought you are the one who is eligible to answer this and help me with this decision
Great comparison. I like both of them. If only the Razer had a higher power limit, even 75w ... What I would like to see is a 17" GE66, so a GE76. The GE75 is stuck with that small battery. Throw in a 99wh battery I would snap that up.
Good video. Subbed & Liked. Good thing is that you have a good voice for voice-overs, don't use overwhelmingly loud background music, have an annoying lisp/pronunciation or try to be too artistic with b-roll. (those are major sins of tech TH-camrs :D ) Keep making videos man, well done.
So here's my dilemma - I have an Alienware 17 R4 with an i7-770HQ (not overclock-able) and a GTX 1070. I configured it with a 4K screen, which of course is at 60Hz, and while I was originally using the system primarily for video editing of 4K footage I also did some gaming. I'm no longer video editing but I am gaming a lot more and I was wondering, does anyone actually use the graphics amplifiers? How effective are they, and (I should know this) can they/are they designed to be used with an external monitor? Would it be more cost-effective to do that or simply get a newer, more powerful system? Good video, thanks for the information, a balanced comparison review with clear use-case recommendations. I'd love to hear long-term reliability and customer service thought as well, as I do know some people find a need to, for instance, re-paste the CPU/GPU in Alienware laptops fairly early on.
Yeah, I agree with pretty much just what you said. The 7700HQ is a bit old and a bit ... Intel-y (i.e. locked, stupidly). I can run just about everything at 1080p and a surprising number of things at 4K, but the screen seems small and between the 1070 and fun cooling issues with all laptops (not just this D___ A____w___) I should sell it. Having said that, I'm sadly a bit of a tech hoarder, still having kept my HP Elitebook with a Quadro card in it, so who knows if I'll actually sell this thing or not. Thank you for the comment!
Thanks for comparison and confirming battery life. I had the M15 R3 300Mhz, 2080 super, and was only getting 1 1/2 hours on battery with all battery-saving features active and the screen set to 50% brightness doing streaming of media, no gameplay. Someone suggested changing the screen to 60Hz, but I was not able to find this option and did not test it. The R3 is much better at cooling than the R2, the keyboard and touchpad are great. Lights up well and has many additional functions, my system rear IO panel is angled to match the design aesthetic, which is preventing cables/plugs from seating flush with the system. I have several plugs I can not use because they are not able to go in enough to create a full connection. An excellent example of this is the power plug. The power plug pushed all the way into the system leaves a good 1/8" outside of the system! It is loose and comes out easily. The same is true for the Thunderbolt 3 port. I tried four different USB C cables and could not get a full connection in the Thunderbolt 3 ports. Is it my unit or a design flaw I do not know, but I sent it back. This is unfortunate because I did get a great deal on the system, but I have learned my lesson with Dell and been burnt sending units back for replacement. One other thing I find odd is there is no Windows Hello which I have come to really like.
Yes, the 2080 Super does not have Nvidia optimus. That’s the main the reason the battery life sucks. I think the 2060 300Hz has Nvidia Optimus which gives around 5-6 web browsing and 3-4 watch time on TH-cam for example.
My mouth is foaming those laptops look sooo good I want one soooooooo bad and the spec are amazing 😍 and gizmo is a GTX570 worth buying? Keep up the awesome content I liked
You buying a GTX 570 off craigslist or something? lol I remember when I had a GTX 580 and I had to return it, and the frys guy said the serial number on the GPU didn’t match the boxes serial number. I held up the line for over an hr arguing with the guy until a manager finally came over. He immediately saw the serial numbers actually matched and the other guy was looking at the wrong numbers lol
i'm thinking of getting the m17 but i'm gonna try and wait til black friday to see if prices are cheaper. i mostly play swtor and watch netflix so it's kinda overkill but i want something that's gonna last for awhile
Love the video Brandon I gave it 2 thumbs up what's the name off that game you was playing on the razer blade ....... with the guy in the dessert and scorpions surrounding him @ 12:16
Hey Brandon New subscriber and I enjoy your content and how in depth you go with products, I am looking to buy An alien ware laptop, that I can game, on and just use for Multipurposes, like school work and maybe even starting my own channel. I'm a little stuck Between the Alienware M15R3, M17R3 and the Area 51MR1 which is discounted on Dell for like 1800 which is kinda my limit. Which one do you think I should go with?
Essentially it all comes down to how much performance you need and how much weight are you willing to carry on the times when you are actually moving the laptop.
Certainly. I bought a top of the line razer 17 in 2013. It’s still going strong. My charger has just died after 7 years of consistent use and black and brown outs so definitely high quality.
dave2D is like the only laptop reviewer who ever talks about the PSU. I realize the PSU isn't that important but when it comes to mobility it's nice to know if I'm carrying a brick or something that's remotely mobile.
I went for the Alienware M17 R3 and I would never look back. I honestly didn't know you could get performance from such a slim laptop, it's an absolute beast. Also I got a deal so it was cheaper than the equivalent razer.
@@georgemorton7145 yeah, i do ;) Will most likely have to call the service though, keyboard does phantom presses. If they change it i'll let them do a repaste with kryonaut and everything will be fine
crazy dude u just read my mind, i came across the new xps 15 and 17 and i originally had one of those older model, i was looking to upgrade then i started researching the graphic card, and i saw your other video about alienware product, then u mention portability issue and also razer product, and now i was curious about the comparison between the two and i just came across this video just one day later.
I wish 300hz of M17 was g sync. It also should come with optimus tech. Razer's 4k 120hz is on a good route. Now lower the response time to 3ms and increase the refresh rate even furthur.
Awesome thank you! Think of grabbing the Alienware and this helped me. I love the Razer but that premium price for my use case just doesn’t make sense.
@@anarki_in5680 yes but what he is saying is that the base of the razer is much more expensive then the base of thr alienware so you can get more price to performance ratio
Hope your channel grow , Does the (razer blade) have 2 thunderbolts? .. I don’t understand what the difference between thunderbolt and usb-c 3.2 2gen and thank you 🙏🏼
The Razer has 1 Thunderbolt (compatible also with USB-C) and 1 USB-C. Essentially what this means is that you can plug in an USB-C device to either the USB-C port, or the Thunderbolt port and it will work. But if you have a Thunderbolt device (for example, external GPU enclosure) which needs much higher bandwith than what USB can provide, it will only work when connected to the Thunderbolt port.
@@Fisustin Thank you Roni , I just received my razer blade 17 2020 .. Its really amazing laptop .. I was waiting for 3 weeks to receive it , finally..
@@naseralotaibi8475 Congrats Naser! Also been enjoying mine (also the 2020 RBP) for a while. It's an amazing machine, though a bit counter-intuitive how you need to unlock large part of the GPU / CPU performance from Razer Synapse software before you start gaming.
Thanks for the video. I ordered the ailenware 2070 super version. I was reluctant to go with alienware cause they solder the ram to the board so you are stuck with what it comes with. I have always been an Asus fan with no complaints but I figure meh why not I will give alienware a go and see how I like it.
But what about the HP omen 17.3 running a RTX2080 super, 2020 model? I went for the omen based on parts compared to these others you've shown, alot cheaper too.
I've used omen for couple years and just got m17 r3. Performance wise omen is just as good any high end laptops but overall material quality and feel is night and day. And m17 keyboard was best out of all of them. Also m17 screen is just insanely good
Thats the reason im still using alienware 15 r2, despite its size and weight, older model not just a gaming laptop, it also has very good speakers and very very good display for editing
I am looking to get a gaming laptop and was considering one of these two laptops. I am a (ps5/Xbox x) console gamer and switching to a gaming laptop and want to make sure which one would be the better choice. Or would you recommend another laptop? Thanks for any help!
I mean that’s a little obvious of course it’ll run cooler. 2060 uses nowhere near the amount of wattage as the 2080 super and the cooling system on the laptop is the exact same.
Sadly with the alienware you can't get the 144hz display with the 2080super.....i have no idea why they would do that....also with the 2070super you are limited to 16gb of ram
Great vid mate, one question though, I’m a video editor, so I am looking for a laptop that doubles as an editing station as well, which of these two models would you recommend me getting?
If you care more about display/color, go with Razer or the 4K 500 nit m17 config. If you care more about performance for rendering/gaming, go with Alienware m17 r3. Edit: or if any of the premium features on either device really stands out to you, like the touch display of the Razer.
The 4K 120 hz display has solid performance for FPS games, but the 300 hz is as fast as it gets, so kind of depends on how much you think that response rate affects your aim. Edit: I felt like played just as well with the 4K 120hz display, and I am a pretty competitive FPS player.
I have been wondering if i should get the alienware m15 instead but i'm torn between the oled and the 240hz. i want something that would be good for content creation but i don't want to be stuck with 60hz. would u say the oled resolution is worth it for content creation more than the 1080p screen ? or you think for that size of laptop it wouldn't matter too much in terns of the contrast and color accuracy of the panel at that size? another option i was thinking is getting the oled version but getting one of those 240hz portable displays from asus but considering the price i dont know if thats worth it either any thoughts?
So for the new M17 R4 and the new Blade 17 (2021) - am I understanding correctly that even if they have near identical specs, the Razer is throttled down?
Hello, do you have any feedback on RTX 2080 mobile vs RTX 2080 Super mobile? From what I seen the RTX 2080 mobile it`s 1 - 2% faster, do you have any info on that?
I’m looking for the absolute best gaming laptop for CS-GO. Is 300hz the highest refresh rate available for laptops? Which laptop has the latest and best Intel cpu and nvidea gpu? Which has the lowest response time for the monitor? Don’t care for price to performance.
Pretty sure you can get a 360 hz Alienware Area 51M. I think that’s the highest, but that machine is a lot thicker, so up to you if that’s worth the trade off.
@@GizmoSlipTech I got lucky and got a EVGA 3090 ftw3 hybrid. Bitch arrived today! I’m just going to build a whole new PC and keep my old one. I need a video that shows a beast 10900k 3090 build so I can copy same parts.
Hello I'm not a very technical person at all, but I'm looking at a laptop. I got a job working at home for a calling center and I'm needed to buy a laptop which of these would you suggest are is there another one you would suggest money isn't a problem. I'm looking at alienware area-51m r2 I heard it was the best laptop and close to a desktop. Any thoughts? And also what specs should I be looking at for what I want to use it for?
Just bought the razer blade 17. The laptop itself is great, but the speakers on my unit camr defective and it has been an absolute nightmare trying to get a replacement. For this reason I would not recommend buying anything from razer.
hi there thank you for the review. i saw the first review you did of the alienware m17 R3 and you also said that it coasts 3100$ i just wanted to ask you where do you find this configuration that you are reviewing for 3100$. at alienware page it coasts 4169$ and at amazon this configuration that you have here costs 4600$. please let me know where i can get this for 3100$. thank you.
@@kikushela No the model you are looking at is most expensive possible build, the differences being the 17.3" UHD 4k 60hz 25ms 500-nits 100% adobe RGB color gamut + tobii eye-tracking, the 4tb (2x 2tb PCIe M.2 SSD) RAID0 [boot] + 512gb PCIe M.2 SSD [storage], and maybe the per-key RGB lighting (I haven't watched the whole video yet). The CPU, GPU, and RAM are the same. You know you can configure any of the different variations except the highest one really.
Kakha Turiashvili no lol You select the $2300 config and add the RTX 2080S and i9 on that. Nobody selects the $4200 option lol. That will add $800 or so onto the $2300, giving a price of $3100 or so. Add $30 for per key RGB. The $2300 option also gives a direct $200 discount, and you can buy it in August for a further 17% discount during Dell Annual sale (bringing the above model for less than $3000) Alienware laptops are customisable that way.
I have mbp 16 and not happpy for 3d performance so i like to buy a windows laptop which can deliver higher performance but still thin and light. Some of the optios are RBP or alienware . I saw couple of comparison between highend windows laptop and macbook pro 16. The typical problem is : Most of windows laptop have superior performance until we unplug it. It just will drop the performance a lot to save batt life. For example , it can render faster using premiere or resolve but if we unplug the charger, the render speed become 2x slower. So can u share if this is the same case with RBP/alienware ?
Bro next time you review 2 laptops with the intent to mention which one is better please pick one, Don't hedge your opinion cause you might piss a manufacturer off, I like your channel keep up the great work that you do but pick one next time.
He's not suppose to pick. He gives the pros and cons and based on your situation, you decide what's best for you. For me, the alienware could be the best for what I'm doing while razer could be the best for you. It's personal preference. And he's not going to piss of a multi billion dollar company by making an unsponsored review video lol
Hi, really luv your review.. i need a advice from you that i wana buy a laptop now and i am getting "ASUS ROG Strix Scar 17 (2020) - 17.3" 300Hz - GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER - Intel Core i9-10980HK - 32GB DDR4 - 2TB PCIe SSD (RAID 0) - Per-Key RGB - Win10 Pro - Gaming Laptop" Price: 3947$ Should i go for it or wait for 3080 laptops?? Plz tell
Very little bass overall, though compared to most laptop speakers they are pretty decent. But if you are going to listen to a lot of music, good speakers or headphones are definitely recommended, as with every single laptop in existence (Potentially giving small exception to Macbook speakers).
I was debating between these 2 and finally went with R3 and boy what a customizable beast this is! Definitely a supercar of laptops! 150 to 185fps in Warzone high settings in full speed fans high performance mode (no overclocking) and it stays surprisingly super cool for hours of gaming. I got the 2080 Super i9 for 2 weeks now, no regrets.
Does it not matter that the alienware is i9 10th gen which has 8 cores and the i7 10th gen in the razer has 6 cores. is it a complete fair comparison? just asking? power is within the cores that can push the gpu .... no?
Hey, so I'll be bringing more budget laptops soon. I've got an HP Omen 15 coming soon, probably shipped out to me today (it was delayed). I want to cover some laptops around the $1000 mark, so stay tuned. Just a matter of time, it can be tough getting my hands on them sometimes.
Please review the dell g7 17 2020
razer advanced 15 2080 super max q
Your channel has been awesome for helping me decide if the Alienware m17 is right for me. Thanks for all you hard work on these helpful videos
You should have gotten the maxed out version since is the option no one has done a review on, well Dave Lee did but I really didn't like it maybe you can do one in the near future. By the way I really like your reviews they are very detail and you cover basically everything about the laptop keep up the hard work.
Please review the HP omen 15 👍
Can we just skip the price. My wife can hear you dude. Shhhh
Haha
Hahahahahaah so good
Lmaoo dude there's been so many times where my gf hears prices. Ill buy thr product and shell say "isn't that like 700!."
"Nawww that was a diff one.. this was was 350" 😂😂
ever heard of volume? pls dont woooosh me
@@phantomv69 r/whooooosh
Wow... tbh, I wasn't expecting you to hit such specific points and go in-depth like you did in the video. This is exactly what I wanted, so thank you. Great video and keep it up
I really like alienware
Wallet: shut up
I'm getting a dell g3 15 soon. Should be good
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just bought the max spec r3 and i'm absolutely buzzing, bit of an investment but will be worth it i hope :D
How is it
@@micahfreeman3412 update: it's nothing but a powerhouse, phenomenal, to anyone thinking about dropping the cash on one, seriously go for it, i can max out any game and it runs perfect, 10/10 from me
Nihilist I’m ordering mine today. I can not wait for it to come in haha. How’s the battery? And thermals? I’ve heard mixed reviews on those topics from its super cool to it gets pretty hot, and from it last one hour to it lasts 4 hrs
@@micahfreeman3412 i'll be completely honest with you i've never really been too interested about thermals etc, but i can tell you it doesn't get hot really when maxing out the cpu in game, it's not loud either, the speakers built in are great and override the fans, but the core temps i've seen after playing like red dead 2 is like 75-85C so, i don't think that's too hot? i've had mine plugged in on charge pretty much constantly, but when i unplug it it says it has a few hours remaining, so i wouldn't suggest gaming on the battery because it'll die pretty quickly, i guess this is just because how much power it runs
Did you go 17 or 15? Was gonna go 15 but i can get the 17 with same specs for the same price right now and it seems silly to pay the same price for 2” less laptop
Been using the Razer for the last week. So far I'm pretty impressed.
It won't last.
I've been using the 2019 Blade 15 for a little over a year now. I love! It does run pretty warm during gaming sessions (CPU ~98°C in Rocket League as an example).
The one thing I miss is the number pad. I had to use my laptop to work-from-home for a little while. I use AutoCAD at work and I really missed the number pad. I had to buy a bluetooth number pad just to get anything done.
I'm really thinking of upgrading to a 17" with a number pad and with a new Nvidia 3xxx series graphics card next year. That Alienware machine looks pretty sleek and sexy. Build quality is important to me. I'm tired of all the plasticy and blingy gaming laptops. The Alienware is probably the flashiest I'm willing to go. I'm sure I could turn off all the chroma lights?
@@basilthepitty8720,
I love it. It runs everything I throw at it. When in power saver mode I can surf the web and watch Netflix for hours. I haven't timed it but I think it can probably go 5 hours or so. If you don't put it in power saver mode you will only get about an hour and a half of use.
One thing that I noticed right after purchase is that the laptop drastically throttles when on battery only. I thought I could play unplugged for an hour but it's not possible on a demanding game. You have to be plugged in to fully power the graphics card. I think this is a limitation of the battery. I normally plug it in anyways... but thought I'd mention that. If I play Rocket League unplugged it averages 80fps which is playable. I think RL is more CPU intensive but I'm not to sure. It definitely struggles when loading the game and changing screens when gaming unplugged.
All in all, I love the laptop. Best computer I've ever owned. I just love being able to use it anywhere and everywhere and not being tied-down to a stationary PC like before. I also plug an HDMI cable in and play on my projector screen. Red Dead Redemption 2 on a 100" screen is pretty awesome!
@@satnav1980 yeah they do lol
@@icypirate11 hi mate just read your comment! I'm a student who is learning Architecture and I'm going to be using AutoCad alot! They have recommended me to buy a Microsoft Surface Book 2 for around the same price as the Razer Blade Pro 17". I'm thinking of getting the Razer as it has a lot of better graphics than the one they suggested. And in my 2nd % 3rd year we will be using AutoCad alot. Would you say this is a good laptop to buy for using these softwares?
Welcome to another episode of watching shit i cant afford...
I got the m17 with a 2060, runs ANYTHING very well and is best laptop I ever owned
Hey, what’s the battery life for average use. Like watching TH-cam or browsing the internet? I’m buying one, don’t really need such a powerful laptop but I like the looks of it. Any help or adobe would really help! Thanks!!!
Ike Lopez I have the m15 r2, the battery last for me like 2 -3 hr
Dude your b-roll and lighting is insanely good. I often times got distracted by how crisp and beautiful everything looked that I had to rewind to hear what you were saying. Seriously great stuff man. Keep it up!
Sir Galahad I’ve got to give credit where credit is due. My fiancé Carla has been my assistant and has shot most of the b-roll. She’s doing a great job!
@@GizmoSlipTech Man, give Carla a raise! She deserves it. Hats off to you and your Fiance. Wishing the best for you guys!
Totally fallen in love with Alienware's display. 😍 I've always wondered why monitors aren't as bright and vivid as laptop displays, though. :/
I'm just commenting to express support. You're videos may not be as polished as other reviewers' out there but you do mention some nerdy details that make the difference! Cheers
Mate, I’d need to overclock my socket just to charge the M17.
I got Razer Pro 17. 4K Screen is so good. Reason I got RBP is I wanted Windows laptop which can come closer in terms of build quality and simplistic design like Macbook pro. Cool you are the first one to compare it if i am not wrong. keep it up with good work.
Nice. Any regrets?
@@christmasisawesome9348 Another user of RBP 2020 with 4k 120hz, touch etc. here. I bought it around May-June and since then there have been no regrets, even though I've not been able to travel as much as normally would have so been mostly using it as a desktop replacement.
Do note that while you can make the point that it's overpriced for the specs, it makes almost no sacrifices in any other field (beside that they should try to copy the speaker tech from Macbooks).
Let me know if you have more specific questions though about it if you're curious how it is to use :)
Thanks for the 17 inches laptop comparaisons. 👍
Thx a lot Gizmo, this was the exact comparison between these two that I wanted since they've launched, hopefully gonna buy a Alienware m17 in few days
Glad it helped!!
Unfortunately couldn't find a direct link to buy Alienware on Amazon (beside that 1 active high end ones on Best notebooks)
It seems the only way to get one is through Dell's website...
I’ll have better affiliate links in the future that will have more buying options
@@GizmoSlipTech 🙏🙏🙏
@@GizmoSlipTech Hi again Brandon ( if I may)
I was going to buy an Alienware m17, with i7( 10th gen), 2070super, 32Gb ram on FHD 300hz option,
suddenly one of my friends came with the idea of a MSI GE75 with exact same configs in about 360$ less price
As I was excited about this new option I came across the CPU thermal issues on MSI GE75 which some ppl mentioned on comments and some TH-cam videos
This has bring 2nd thoughts and I can't decide between these 2
I recently found ur channel and admire your work and independency in this topic , I thought you are the one who is eligible to answer this and help me with this decision
Great comparison. I like both of them. If only the Razer had a higher power limit, even 75w ...
What I would like to see is a 17" GE66, so a GE76. The GE75 is stuck with that small battery. Throw in a 99wh battery I would snap that up.
Big Fan of your channel, I wonder if the power limit can be increased with XTU or TS.
Game recognize game lol
I think it's possible to increase power limits in Throttlestop, although they reset every time you switch Razer Synapse profiles.
can you do alienware m15 r3 vs razer blade 15?
Good video. Subbed & Liked. Good thing is that you have a good voice for voice-overs, don't use overwhelmingly loud background music, have an annoying lisp/pronunciation or try to be too artistic with b-roll. (those are major sins of tech TH-camrs :D )
Keep making videos man, well done.
Thanks, glad you liked!
OMG YOU READ MY MIND!!!! IVE LITERALLY WANTED THISSSS
Thanks for the video! I just got the Razer 4k and so far I love it.
Great review man I appreciate all the honesty.
Thank you for this!! Pretty awesome to find a comparison video without obvious bias going into it.
So here's my dilemma - I have an Alienware 17 R4 with an i7-770HQ (not overclock-able) and a GTX 1070. I configured it with a 4K screen, which of course is at 60Hz, and while I was originally using the system primarily for video editing of 4K footage I also did some gaming. I'm no longer video editing but I am gaming a lot more and I was wondering, does anyone actually use the graphics amplifiers? How effective are they, and (I should know this) can they/are they designed to be used with an external monitor? Would it be more cost-effective to do that or simply get a newer, more powerful system? Good video, thanks for the information, a balanced comparison review with clear use-case recommendations. I'd love to hear long-term reliability and customer service thought as well, as I do know some people find a need to, for instance, re-paste the CPU/GPU in Alienware laptops fairly early on.
Yeah, I agree with pretty much just what you said. The 7700HQ is a bit old and a bit ... Intel-y (i.e. locked, stupidly). I can run just about everything at 1080p and a surprising number of things at 4K, but the screen seems small and between the 1070 and fun cooling issues with all laptops (not just this D___ A____w___) I should sell it. Having said that, I'm sadly a bit of a tech hoarder, still having kept my HP Elitebook with a Quadro card in it, so who knows if I'll actually sell this thing or not. Thank you for the comment!
is there any giveaway in this channel. because my laptop is stuck in XP version mate.
You're doing a great job man. I wish you all the success
Thanks for comparison and confirming battery life. I had the M15 R3 300Mhz, 2080 super, and was only getting 1 1/2 hours on battery with all battery-saving features active and the screen set to 50% brightness doing streaming of media, no gameplay. Someone suggested changing the screen to 60Hz, but I was not able to find this option and did not test it. The R3 is much better at cooling than the R2, the keyboard and touchpad are great. Lights up well and has many additional functions, my system rear IO panel is angled to match the design aesthetic, which is preventing cables/plugs from seating flush with the system. I have several plugs I can not use because they are not able to go in enough to create a full connection.
An excellent example of this is the power plug. The power plug pushed all the way into the system leaves a good 1/8" outside of the system! It is loose and comes out easily. The same is true for the Thunderbolt 3 port. I tried four different USB C cables and could not get a full connection in the Thunderbolt 3 ports. Is it my unit or a design flaw I do not know, but I sent it back. This is unfortunate because I did get a great deal on the system, but I have learned my lesson with Dell and been burnt sending units back for replacement. One other thing I find odd is there is no Windows Hello which I have come to really like.
Yes, the 2080 Super does not have Nvidia optimus. That’s the main the reason the battery life sucks. I think the 2060 300Hz has Nvidia Optimus which gives around 5-6 web browsing and 3-4 watch time on TH-cam for example.
Thanks for this review I was really waiting for this comparison, just wish you could do an even spec sheet across both
My mouth is foaming those laptops look sooo good I want one soooooooo bad and the spec are amazing 😍 and gizmo is a GTX570 worth buying?
Keep up the awesome content I liked
You buying a GTX 570 off craigslist or something? lol I remember when I had a GTX 580 and I had to return it, and the frys guy said the serial number on the GPU didn’t match the boxes serial number. I held up the line for over an hr arguing with the guy until a manager finally came over. He immediately saw the serial numbers actually matched and the other guy was looking at the wrong numbers lol
And I’m sure the GTX 570 can still old titles really well.
@@GizmoSlipTech plz review area 51m r2
GizmoSlipTech that is a sad and interesting story
GizmoSlipTech Thanks for the reply I was wondering if it’s worth since it’s like 15$
“I’ll also give my recommendations for which one is better for different types of people.”
Bro I can’t even buy one.
i'm thinking of getting the m17 but i'm gonna try and wait til black friday to see if prices are cheaper. i mostly play swtor and watch netflix so it's kinda overkill but i want something that's gonna last for awhile
If you want more of a productivity device then get the Razer. The 4k will do wonders
Awesome video, no annoying background music thank you :)
Thanks for the informative video! Trying to decide between which one of these to purchase and this info was great!
fantastic review , exactly what i needed
Great video, thanks a lot! Btw what is that game with scorpions? Thanks :)
Black Desert Online. It’s my jam right now.
Love the video Brandon I gave it 2 thumbs up what's the name off that game you was playing on the razer blade ....... with the guy in the dessert and scorpions surrounding him @ 12:16
Black Desert Online
Hey Brandon New subscriber and I enjoy your content and how in depth you go with products, I am looking to buy An alien ware laptop, that I can game, on and just use for Multipurposes, like school work and maybe even starting my own channel. I'm a little stuck Between the Alienware M15R3, M17R3 and the Area 51MR1 which is discounted on Dell for like 1800 which is kinda my limit.
Which one do you think I should go with?
Essentially it all comes down to how much performance you need and how much weight are you willing to carry on the times when you are actually moving the laptop.
The battle of legends!🤣
I can buy one of this by just seeing it's company logo.
Because I believe that Razer and Alienware are both good.
great comparison, keep up the good work
Because of the price is this laptop worthy of long term usage?
Certainly. I bought a top of the line razer 17 in 2013. It’s still going strong. My charger has just died after 7 years of consistent use and black and brown outs so definitely high quality.
dave2D is like the only laptop reviewer who ever talks about the PSU. I realize the PSU isn't that important but when it comes to mobility it's nice to know if I'm carrying a brick or something that's remotely mobile.
If you want to see the PSU, see the individual reviews I made on each laptop. I went into more detail.
Needed this for long time , thanks 🙏
I went for the Alienware M17 R3 and I would never look back. I honestly didn't know you could get performance from such a slim laptop, it's an absolute beast. Also I got a deal so it was cheaper than the equivalent razer.
Where did u get urs
@@Felixtyst got mine from dell UK.
This sounds good ;)
Hope my M15 R3 will arrive soon.... shipped since 10 days.... could arrive tomorrow if I'm lucky .
@@der_woe you'll love it 😊
@@georgemorton7145 yeah, i do ;)
Will most likely have to call the service though, keyboard does phantom presses. If they change it i'll let them do a repaste with kryonaut and everything will be fine
I'm planning on saving for a alienware laptop and a driving sim
crazy dude u just read my mind, i came across the new xps 15 and 17 and i originally had one of those older model, i was looking to upgrade then i started researching the graphic card, and i saw your other video about alienware product, then u mention portability issue and also razer product, and now i was curious about the comparison between the two and i just came across this video just one day later.
I wish 300hz of M17 was g sync. It also should come with optimus tech.
Razer's 4k 120hz is on a good route. Now lower the response time to 3ms and increase the refresh rate even furthur.
And offer a Ryzen processor variant too for the Razor and Alienware. Razor should offer a Max-P GPU as well.
Awesome thank you! Think of grabbing the Alienware and this helped me. I love the Razer but that premium price for my use case just doesn’t make sense.
He bought it with the 4k 120Hz touchscreen display that's unique to the Blade Pro, you don't have to, stick to the cheaper 144/300 Hz 1080p options
@@anarki_in5680 yes but what he is saying is that the base of the razer is much more expensive then the base of thr alienware so you can get more price to performance ratio
awesome review and also very informative, thank you.
Would have loved to see the 300hz Razer compared to this instead of the 4K but overall great job!
Keep it up! New to the channel but just subbed!
Can you please do some research on music softwares and plug ins and do which computers are best for music producers? That'd be amazing.
😯 wow great TH-camr i wish see you in future have 10M sub ❤️
Thanks!!
Hope your channel grow , Does the (razer blade) have 2 thunderbolts? .. I don’t understand what the difference between thunderbolt and usb-c 3.2 2gen and thank you 🙏🏼
The Razer has 1 Thunderbolt (compatible also with USB-C) and 1 USB-C.
Essentially what this means is that you can plug in an USB-C device to either the USB-C port, or the Thunderbolt port and it will work.
But if you have a Thunderbolt device (for example, external GPU enclosure) which needs much higher bandwith than what USB can provide, it will only work when connected to the Thunderbolt port.
@@Fisustin Thank you Roni , I just received my razer blade 17 2020 .. Its really amazing laptop .. I was waiting for 3 weeks to receive it , finally..
@@naseralotaibi8475 Congrats Naser! Also been enjoying mine (also the 2020 RBP) for a while. It's an amazing machine, though a bit counter-intuitive how you need to unlock large part of the GPU / CPU performance from Razer Synapse software before you start gaming.
Thanks for the video. I ordered the ailenware 2070 super version. I was reluctant to go with alienware cause they solder the ram to the board so you are stuck with what it comes with. I have always been an Asus fan with no complaints but I figure meh why not I will give alienware a go and see how I like it.
But what about the HP omen 17.3 running a RTX2080 super, 2020 model? I went for the omen based on parts compared to these others you've shown, alot cheaper too.
I've used omen for couple years and just got m17 r3. Performance wise omen is just as good any high end laptops but overall material quality and feel is night and day. And m17 keyboard was best out of all of them. Also m17 screen is just insanely good
Thats the reason im still using alienware 15 r2, despite its size and weight, older model not just a gaming laptop, it also has very good speakers and very very good display for editing
I am looking to get a gaming laptop and was considering one of these two laptops. I am a (ps5/Xbox x) console gamer and switching to a gaming laptop and want to make sure which one would be the better choice. Or would you recommend another laptop? Thanks for any help!
What kind of comparison is these? The Alienware has double the Ram that the Razer has, and better processor as well.
Would like to see the Alienware m17 r3 running a 2060 to see if the Temps are gonna be as high as the 2080 variant
I mean that’s a little obvious of course it’ll run cooler. 2060 uses nowhere near the amount of wattage as the 2080 super and the cooling system on the laptop is the exact same.
Sadly with the alienware you can't get the 144hz display with the 2080super.....i have no idea why they would do that....also with the 2070super you are limited to 16gb of ram
Thanks for the review
Love the review !
No Asus Zephyrus s17 2020 :-( ... can’t wait for comparisons!
Can you do a Razer Blade 15 vs Alienware M15R3? Also which one would you prefer, Razer Blade 15 or the Blade Pro 17?
fantastic comparison! l have the Razer Blade and am thoroughly satisfied
Yeah, that’s what I currently own and use for my main laptop
Which game was that, the one where a melee character causes a lot of explosions
Great vid mate, one question though, I’m a video editor, so I am looking for a laptop that doubles as an editing station as well, which of these two models would you recommend me getting?
If you care more about display/color, go with Razer or the 4K 500 nit m17 config. If you care more about performance for rendering/gaming, go with Alienware m17 r3. Edit: or if any of the premium features on either device really stands out to you, like the touch display of the Razer.
@@GizmoSlipTech Great, really helped me with my purchase decision, thanks mate!
The intro was FIREE
Hey Gizmo, is 4k 120hz good for games like OW and Dota 2? Or you suggest to get the 300hz instead for mainly gaming.
The 4K 120 hz display has solid performance for FPS games, but the 300 hz is as fast as it gets, so kind of depends on how much you think that response rate affects your aim. Edit: I felt like played just as well with the 4K 120hz display, and I am a pretty competitive FPS player.
great Review rhx
I have been wondering if i should get the alienware m15 instead but i'm torn between the oled and the 240hz. i want something that would be good for content creation but i don't want to be stuck with 60hz. would u say the oled resolution is worth it for content creation more than the 1080p screen ? or you think for that size of laptop it wouldn't matter too much in terns of the contrast and color accuracy of the panel at that size? another option i was thinking is getting the oled version but getting one of those 240hz portable displays from asus but considering the price i dont know if thats worth it either any thoughts?
I get the 4k when using it for work/ school , light gaming. When home I use external 4k 120hz monitor
Great video! Thanks!
great review!
So for the new M17 R4 and the new Blade 17 (2021) - am I understanding correctly that even if they have near identical specs, the Razer is throttled down?
really nice vid bro 🔥😇
Good review!
I bought my razer blade pro 17 this spring on sale for $1700. Couldn't be happier, great bang for the buck!
Hello, do you have any feedback on RTX 2080 mobile vs RTX 2080 Super mobile? From what I seen the RTX 2080 mobile it`s 1 - 2% faster, do you have any info on that?
This one is Razer Blade Pro 17 2020 edition right..?
I’m looking for the absolute best gaming laptop for CS-GO.
Is 300hz the highest refresh rate available for laptops?
Which laptop has the latest and best Intel cpu and nvidea gpu? Which has the lowest response time for the monitor?
Don’t care for price to performance.
Pretty sure you can get a 360 hz Alienware Area 51M. I think that’s the highest, but that machine is a lot thicker, so up to you if that’s worth the trade off.
@@GizmoSlipTech I got lucky and got a EVGA 3090 ftw3 hybrid. Bitch arrived today! I’m just going to build a whole new PC and keep my old one. I need a video that shows a beast 10900k 3090 build so I can copy same parts.
@GizmoSlipTech
I prefer Alienware M17 R3 (2020).
Hello I'm not a very technical person at all, but I'm looking at a laptop. I got a job working at home for a calling center and I'm needed to buy a laptop which of these would you suggest are is there another one you would suggest money isn't a problem. I'm looking at alienware area-51m r2 I heard it was the best laptop and close to a desktop. Any thoughts? And also what specs should I be looking at for what I want to use it for?
I’d only get the Area 51m if you don’t plan on moving the laptop around too much. If you value portability, go with a thinner and lighter laptop
Will you be doing a review on the Alienwarw Area-51m R2?
Possibly, if I can get my hands on one
@@GizmoSlipTech Nice 👌
Razer blade pro 17 2080rtx super, can i upgrade the ram to 64gb 3200mhz? like hyperx impact or crucial ballistix 64gb rams?
Just bought the razer blade 17. The laptop itself is great, but the speakers on my unit camr defective and it has been an absolute nightmare trying to get a replacement. For this reason I would not recommend buying anything from razer.
hi there thank you for the review. i saw the first review you did of the alienware m17 R3 and you also said that it coasts 3100$ i just wanted to ask you where do you find this configuration that you are reviewing for 3100$. at alienware page it coasts 4169$ and at amazon this configuration that you have here costs 4600$. please let me know where i can get this for 3100$. thank you.
That price was direct from dell. It was their cheapest high end config option.
So if I want to buys this model i should pay 4169$ right.
@@kikushela No the model you are looking at is most expensive possible build, the differences being the 17.3" UHD 4k 60hz 25ms 500-nits 100% adobe RGB color gamut + tobii eye-tracking, the 4tb (2x 2tb PCIe M.2 SSD) RAID0 [boot] + 512gb PCIe M.2 SSD [storage], and maybe the per-key RGB lighting (I haven't watched the whole video yet). The CPU, GPU, and RAM are the same. You know you can configure any of the different variations except the highest one really.
Kakha Turiashvili no lol
You select the $2300 config and add the RTX 2080S and i9 on that. Nobody selects the $4200 option lol. That will add $800 or so onto the $2300, giving a price of $3100 or so. Add $30 for per key RGB. The $2300 option also gives a direct $200 discount, and you can buy it in August for a further 17% discount during Dell Annual sale (bringing the above model for less than $3000)
Alienware laptops are customisable that way.
Ooh ok thanks man. I though that those were the only options that they have it displayed on alienware website.
Yes yes yes...been waiting for this
Is bet to get 1500e gaming laptop or to make own pc what will give better fps?
question idk what to go for. alienware m17 r3 or alienware area 51m. m17 has 3ms and 51m has 5ms with gsync idk which would be best to get
Amazing review
Can you make a review of the alienware area 51m r2 pls?
I have mbp 16 and not happpy for 3d performance so i like to buy a windows laptop which can deliver higher performance but still thin and light. Some of the optios are RBP or alienware . I saw couple of comparison between highend windows laptop and macbook pro 16. The typical problem is : Most of windows laptop have superior performance until we unplug it. It just will drop the performance a lot to save batt life. For example , it can render faster using premiere or resolve but if we unplug the charger, the render speed become 2x slower. So can u share if this is the same case with RBP/alienware ?
Bro next time you review 2 laptops with the intent to mention which one is better please pick one, Don't hedge your opinion cause you might piss a manufacturer off, I like your channel keep up the great work that you do but pick one next time.
He's not suppose to pick. He gives the pros and cons and based on your situation, you decide what's best for you. For me, the alienware could be the best for what I'm doing while razer could be the best for you. It's personal preference. And he's not going to piss of a multi billion dollar company by making an unsponsored review video lol
Hi, really luv your review.. i need a advice from you that i wana buy a laptop now and i am getting
"ASUS ROG Strix Scar 17 (2020) - 17.3" 300Hz - GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER - Intel Core i9-10980HK - 32GB DDR4 - 2TB PCIe SSD (RAID 0) - Per-Key RGB - Win10 Pro - Gaming Laptop"
Price: 3947$
Should i go for it or wait for 3080 laptops??
Plz tell
At this point, I’d wait if you want to buy an ultra high specs laptop. Only a few weeks out for RTX 3000 series announcements most likely
Does speaker on Razer Blade Pro 17 have bass?
Very little bass overall, though compared to most laptop speakers they are pretty decent.
But if you are going to listen to a lot of music, good speakers or headphones are definitely recommended, as with every single laptop in existence (Potentially giving small exception to Macbook speakers).
The both dell and razer can bypass optimus without external monitor ?
If it doesn’t bother please compare the 15” models of each companies laptops ie. Razer Blade 15 Advanced Model vs Alienware m15 r3? Thanks!
Which one can handle the sims? Cause it crashed my computer and my old laptop can't even handle 5 minutes of it.
I was debating between these 2 and finally went with R3 and boy what a customizable beast this is! Definitely a supercar of laptops! 150 to 185fps in Warzone high settings in full speed fans high performance mode (no overclocking) and it stays surprisingly super cool for hours of gaming. I got the 2080 Super i9 for 2 weeks now, no regrets.
Does it not matter that the alienware is i9 10th gen which has 8 cores and the i7 10th gen in the razer has 6 cores. is it a complete fair comparison? just asking? power is within the cores that can push the gpu .... no?
What do you think of the 144hz 9ms m17 r3?