"conservatism is in crisis" says "conservative" party that has been in power for 12 years and has done nothing with it's 80 seat majority. Just sickening.
The "Conservative party" is a cynical election-winning machine without any values. The only thing they have effectively conserved is the Eton-Politics pipeline
I get that, really I do. No one can afford anything but I would like to struggle along in peace. Not having a trans flag rammed down my throat every waking moment. I mean, if my existence is meager at least make it pure and enjoyable otherwise.
They are against preserving the historical character of the UK's towns and cities. Conservative councillors lobby to keep historic centres as carparks. Tacky, tasteless and not conservative
Rees Mogg is everything that's wrong with British politics. A political fossil that waffles without saying anything. This is the 21st. century. The great ceremonial history is our heritage but should be exempted from politics. Britain needs politicians with ideas and the will to endorse them. A good idea is a good idea , regardless which side of the house it originates from. If it helps Britain then it should be adopted. After all politicians are supposed to be in power to make policies that, primarily, help the country not necessarily party politics.
He’s a fraud, if TORIES weren’t all so bloody thick he’d never have got past them. They love a spiv in a suit with with ridiculously affected speech. They’re ALL frauds…
The main issue facing the country is that since 1997, the population has grown by 20% without planning. The pressure applied to housing, healthcare and education is ridiculous.
We have already lost. We should buy roubles, weapons and prepare for 200 years of corruption and banditry. Retreat to the shadows and organise from there
The whole world has grown by 20% since then, the UK can't stop the world and get off. We need an increasing population to have economic growth and increasing living standards.
These issues they talk about I literally couldnt care less about, I dont care about social issues like abortion or trans or whatever. I work hard with loads of overtime and I still cant progress! Identity doesnt mean anything to me because I cant afford my rent.
Its American influence. Identity madness comes with absolute individualism. Left, right, up, down. They're all just identities to these people. There isn't even one rational thought process between them.
since right now that the society is more liberalized and we are facing the issues / problems, if the morals of the society will reset back to its proper state, (no abortion, no more gender identity or racialization of everything in the society.. etc) maybe it will put the society in back in order.
A working conservatism is one that maintain the dynamics in a society that it continues to work in a more or less fashion without painful disruption to the stakeholders, while allowing for continuous trials and errors that do not have immediate systemic impacts, negative or positive, to address public issues. Ideally, there is the mechanism for curbing rent seeking, such that those have more does not continue to have more just because the had more. Conservatism with the above interpretation should focus on uniting and incremental improvement, and not on splitting and disruption. Who focus on splitting citizens into groups? Instill hatred and anger? Promote civil war? Extremists, fundamentalists, authoritarian regimes, revolutionaries, opportunists do, regardless how they label themselves and which umbrella they are under... real conservatism won't do these.
"Who focus on splitting citizens into groups? Instill hatred and anger? Promote civil war?" Right wing think tanks out of Tufton street (at least in the UK). The modern "splitting citizens into groups" strategy they've adopted is a direct copy of Vladislav Surkov's when he was Vladimir Putin political strategist. Worked reasonably well in the US, hasn't done as well over here. Although the Tories acting like this really isn't new thing though, Thatcher's rhetoric was pretty extreme and divisive to be honest. It just gets significantly worse when they are threatened. It's a move a desperation, all the while they are screaming at top volume that they are the "silent majority". It's beyond parody, especially in the US, the reality is that new technology and the Tories inability to adapt will leave them left behind and split until they do.
@@gavinmc5285 That's not relevant or even a skill. Both staunch sides are now about figuring out how to break conventions to best serve their agenda. "understands how rules and order works" is not relevant when the goal has changed to who is at best breaking rules and order.
"Im not allowed to talk about immigration cause im white" and yet she wishes that the Conservative party would become more conservative on social issues (which means we dont have to be afraid we will get shut down or cancelled from speaking facts)?
Sorry ,Jacob, How is the legislature itself irrevocably tied by law? If the law doesn't allow the UK to reduce immigration and the Conservatives have a pledge to reduce it, the legislature (the conservatives) should be acting to repeal or amend these laws to allow them to fulfill their mandate. Where is this action apparent?
The laws against many of the things carried out during the lockdowns was crystal clear, yet they moved heaven and earth to either change them or simply ignore them. That puts it all in perspective when they say that over a decade of being in power wasn't enough time to change the laws or do anything about multiculturalism.
Generally conservatism in the restrictive social sense many see it is often not entirely consistent with maximising profits and productivity in a market, because some consumers and taxpayers make other choices for stability or to limit competitors profitability. Market signals also can reflect other choices. Maximising a personal utility purchase basket might involve all sort of choices not motivated by the cost or the legality. Much of the public undoubtedly seeks pleasure and bliss
One problem that fundamentally prevents coherent action is terminology. "Left/right" and "conservative" have been meaningless for at least a decade. Terms like "Civilised" and "fair" aren't used but are central to the problems that the country faces (which are all stemming from corruption and uncivility)
While the Labour Party is always stretched between left of centre Social Democrats and Socialists while, the Conservative Party effectively threw out its right of centre Social Democrats to ensure the more lassaiz fair wing of free marketeer could complete its Brexit project (even though there has never been a strategy or a plan to make it work - let alone deliver benefits or recognisable success! ). It's really unclear what the Nat C ideas can do to rebuild any consensus and maybe runs the danger of following the Republicans down the anti-woke rabbit hole.
The “anti-woke rabbit hole” means standing up for women as a material reality and is likely to win DeSantis the American Presidency as he is one of the few willing to stand up for the legal definition of women and women’s right to safety, privacy and dignity. While the left is burning down the support women have given them for decades.
I would hazard a guess at the largess during covid, the near zero interest rates & QE that have skewed the financial markets and made banks in the US & Europe fail at even a historically small interest rate rise.
"Meet the conservatives the Left fear the most" "This week, the best and brightest of the British Right gathered in London for the National Conservatism conference." "Speakers at NatCon were not afraid to touch on controversial issues, including demography, defending our history, immigration, and the degradation of our culture" No question which side Torygraph alines itself with then ... a fair and balanced report, I do not expect.
Growing up as a lefty in a lefty ( now politically homeless for some time) household it was a given that The Telegraph was the Tory newspaper. It should be no surprise whatsoever that they are going to take a conservative stance. They are one of the few newspapers I pay an online subscription for as they are one of the only media outlets to consistently stand up for women. The Guardian who seem to consider themselves feminist have thrown women under the bus. Western politics everywhere is in crisis. The majority of people have no enthusiasm for any of the parties and politicians on offer.
Watching the first half of the video I was thinking NatCon has a strong whiff of Americanism and was unfortunately proved right watching the whole video. As an US resident I can share that American Conservatism's tenets are: gun rights, puritan Christianity & Laissez-faire capitalism. It wasn't mentioned in the video, but I wonder how much British NatCon movement is originating from, or being pushed by Christian religious lobby? Or even, American Christian lobby?
Well it is certainly better than Orwellian Lib Dems and rampant Wokism . We have come to the conclusion that there must be something in the air we breath, as the world is now full of stupid people and gross stupidity. The world of the arch nincompoop. is becoming the norm.
The conservative machine works through outrage. It has since Thatcher. Made worse by social media, they now generate political support through division
The main issue facing the country is that since 2010 is we are now seeing the effects of 13 years of austerity on all our services . Cuts to council budgets has caused lack of investment in housing , Cut to schools , Cuts to NHS, fire service, police serve , Private ownership of GP surgeries and resulted in lack of appointments and clinicians rather than GPs trying to do a job they are not qualified to do. Where is all money gone from this cuts . ?
It can't be called "austerity" if spending is still much higher than income. The more appropriate name would be "slightly less out-of-control spending".
Just because something is called something good, e.g. "international human rights act", does not automatically make it a good thing. The USSR was commonly called a "workers' paradise", but it was the opposite of that. I know that because I grew up in that hell. It's a very common practice of the Political Left to _mislabel_ things in order to conceal their true purpose.
"I did not pick up on a whiff of extremism" They must've missed the parts that talked about banning abortion, and Rees-Mogg's blatant acception at the Tories' attempt to jerrymander
Small? Surely they represent a great number of our countrymen and women. There’s a huge appetite for a confident, coherent and unified conservative vision. The red wall voters are small-c conservatives. As a Gen Zer myself, I’ve spoken to many people my age who feel that there’s a real conservative backlash brewing against the excesses of the millennial far-left. The problem is the “Conservative” party has not been conservative in living memory, and the nature of proportional representation is such that opting for smaller parties is essentially throwing away a vote. Don’t make the mistake though of underestimating the conservative sway of the people. It will find an outlet inevitably, just as it has done in Italy, Sweden, the Netherlands, Poland, Hungary…
I believe I'm somewhat Conservative! Even though I have My flaws like every other human in this world, but I am Conservative of the traditions and things I love and value! Left-wing ideology is a genuine threat that is almost becoming irrational I believe!
The Conservative Party has nothing conservative to talk about, we need a pm that will put the UK first in investing in the people and industry rather than looking out of borders to fill the gap. Also on social issues, more traditional Christian values and less woke values like people who can't say what a woman is
4:04 always resort to putting the prettiest lady into the thumbnail when everyone knows that the whole conversation of which side is better is doomed to hold any value under its own weight as eventually it's policy of individual cabinet which decides on its own the actual decisions.
We simply have no one, literally no one, in the whole of that wasteland we call British politics who understands the importance of borders, language and culture. Are these people even literate?
I live now in Spain, and also heard a few days ago a debate of affairs in the US and Germany ... The consensus is that the global right/conservatives is afraid of its nuclear values. It has tried to morph into a center-leftist with the dream of courting new voters, while alienating their traditional voting base. Leftist are less prone to change vote. And when the right/conservatives reach power they fear tearing down even measures put in place by the former left/socialist/labor government, in spite of even having promised during the elections. They live in the mirage of being nice with the leftist opposition, while these are tuthless when they reach power, even in the USA. The power of the left as said in the video, is that the left infiltrates and colludes unilaterally all the positions of institutions. Unless appointed by consensus, then they were placed on ideological motives, so they should go. Here in Spain, the conservatives have left the socio-eco-comunists snatch them the control of the Constitutional Court. In the past, many decisions were debatable ... but now it is so obscene and pro-party/government that it is referred to as the "Prostitutional Court" ... It is a desolation to have our destiny in hands of of so many unfit for the job.
I've always debated between left and right ideals. It's like I can't make up my mind. It's like it's a bitter debate between idealism and realism. While ideals can become reality, and sometimes the ideal is better than reality, reality is still reality, and often protects people from the consequences of unchecked power. But then not all conservatives are the same conservatives. Maybe I should stop measuring the truth and validity of such ideas from societies perspective, and just believe what's good for me.
Tory party used to be about financial viability. It's just gone weird and anti-woke and anti-migration. These are ideological issues. I'm not interested. I just want more money in my pocket. Growth doesn't happen unless ur population is growing. Our population is getting to old to support itself and will shrink in the coming years (if there is no migration). Check the stats! Migration = growth (that's just a inalienable fact that this tory doesn't don't get). Can we just have pragmatism!
JRM says that we're tied in by human rights law. How does that tie us in? It's just a law that his party could repeal. They don't want to repeal it. They agree with it. They approve of its effects.
@@dolphin069 Brexit was/is a fantasy for the Right; it can never be what they wanted, as it requires the EU to dissolve and the UK to deregulate and the rest of the world also, with the UK being sort of 'in charge'; it a religeious idea based on Hard Right neoliberal ideology. It was and will remain undeliverable!
Ever since I emigrated to UK a decade ago, I''ve voted conservative. My problem: they are not realy conservative. They maintain the nany-state, do not stop illegal immigration, and are indecisive protecting the free speech. I vote for them because they are less left than the left, but I would like to vote for a trully conservative party, like the one Thatcher led.
The Republicans in the USA are just as bad on immigration as the UK conservatives, if anything they might be worse. But immigration is the number 1 issue.
Conservative Party threw out their MP Andrew Bridgen for talking about issues which they didn't like talking about, namely - covid. Conservative thinking people should take a close look at Reclaim Party
I usually like to watch Telegraph podcasts. I don't necessarily agree with everything, but the journalism is generally good. However this one, talking about 'rampant wokism' is more like red top journalism!
@@christianround2774 there's tonnes of "insults" they don't have definitions for "radical left","communist", "woke" etc It happens on both sides, using things that sound good to your base but have no definition
@@Skippymabobdon't both sides this. The left clearly spends more time discussing definitions so they can have deeper discussions about society. This often leads to insanely microscopic breakdowns of seemingly benign things. Which often gets spun as "lefties think X is Y"
Really drives the hypocrisy of cancel culture in the conservative movement when the first 30 seconds of this video has scenes of 2 people being removed for bringing up topics the Tories will not engage with.
I hope New Zealand politicians are watching. Presently the National party is Woke and does not have an answer to Labour. DemocarcyNZ is rising!! I see this latter movement as very much to the right of center. Family is paramount. That is the traditional family.
Pretty typical of the Conservative to coin a phrase and not actually know what it means to anyone because everyone thinks it means different things to everyone 😂😂😂
Using the word national, at the front of any political Party, never ends well. If only I could remember the name of the last right wing political party that proudly put the word National, at the Front, of its name.
Miriam claims, at every turn, that she attended Cambridge University. Unless standards have been vastly degraded beyond all reasonable criteria, I cannot understand how a reputable college would have been so ridiculously woke/inclusive as to admit one such as Ms. Cates. She is coy. Could someone please indicate which college she attended? It would be a charitable act. I seek only to ensure that my sons will register at an alternative.
@Bill Conquerer I have No idea I live in the UK, California is not in the UK,this article is centred on the UK,I personally believe that issues concerning suffering take precedence over greed and Identity politics wether they be Nationalism or Wokeism,I take it I'll now be virtue signalling from the right wing book of bullshit?
Ahaha I agree with it all, but conservatives are historically people who feel things are doomed. Dostoyevsky, Spengler, Carlyle, Hayek, Junger, Tolkien to name a few. But Moogs conception of a conservative is some neo liberal type a feel again. I’m conservative in many ways but I’m sure as hell not optimistic. The current situation in the west the last 50 years is existential.
"conservatism is in crisis" says "conservative" party that has been in power for 12 years and has done nothing with it's 80 seat majority.
Just sickening.
That's why it's in crisis.
Well, all of Europe is in Crisis, look at the state of France!
@@jaysefgames1155some of the people talking about it being in Crisis though are people who have been ministers in those failing governments...
The "Conservative party" is a cynical election-winning machine without any values. The only thing they have effectively conserved is the Eton-Politics pipeline
The Conservative party has only a few actual conservatives, most are more liberal than the Lib Dems.
What I would give for “Rampant wokeism” to be my largest concern. I can barely afford my energy bill, Stephen.
concur
I get that, really I do. No one can afford anything but I would like to struggle along in peace. Not having a trans flag rammed down my throat every waking moment. I mean, if my existence is meager at least make it pure and enjoyable otherwise.
Thats true ! We need both a nationalist party against immgration, and a socialist one against exploitation.
@@aribbonatatime i would love to know where all of the trans flags gets forced in our faces are.
@@tomgachagan1347 It's a figure of speech, of course. Sorry, I assumed we were all native English speakers.
The Conservative Party cannot conserve its way out of a paper bag.
The first-pass-the-post electoral system will be the end of us. It keeps out new blood!
Too many elite privileged/titled twits
They are against preserving the historical character of the UK's towns and cities. Conservative councillors lobby to keep historic centres as carparks. Tacky, tasteless and not conservative
LOL
Why would it want to?
Rees Mogg is everything that's wrong with British politics. A political fossil that waffles without saying anything. This is the 21st. century. The great ceremonial history is our heritage but should be exempted from politics. Britain needs politicians with ideas and the will to endorse them. A good idea is a good idea , regardless which side of the house it originates from. If it helps Britain then it should be adopted. After all politicians are supposed to be in power to make policies that, primarily, help the country not necessarily party politics.
Agree. I had to fast forward the interview with JRM. Any renewal with him involved will fail.
Yes agree he’s a stupid fossil
I used to quite admire him but now I find him increasingly irritating - the answers he gave in the interview were - frankly - pathetic.
Rishi and Kier are everything wrong with UK politics. Out of touch and spineless on the major issues of crime, immigration and economic growth.
He’s a fraud, if TORIES weren’t all so bloody thick he’d never have got past them. They love a spiv in a suit with with ridiculously affected speech. They’re ALL frauds…
that blonde girl is FIT!
Miriam Kates!!??!?!?!?! lol jk
Timestamp?
Shame she's a Tory...
She's a god nutcase
So Rees Smugg is blaming the failures of the last 13 years on Labour. Genius.
The main issue facing the country is that since 1997, the population has grown by 20% without planning. The pressure applied to housing, healthcare and education is ridiculous.
The only thing I disagree with is the "without planning" part. It's been done entirely on purpose.
We have already lost. We should buy roubles, weapons and prepare for 200 years of corruption and banditry. Retreat to the shadows and organise from there
The whole world has grown by 20% since then, the UK can't stop the world and get off. We need an increasing population to have economic growth and increasing living standards.
I think the main issue facing the country is the political class. And I make no distinction between the parties.
100% right there
These issues they talk about I literally couldnt care less about, I dont care about social issues like abortion or trans or whatever. I work hard with loads of overtime and I still cant progress! Identity doesnt mean anything to me because I cant afford my rent.
Its American influence. Identity madness comes with absolute individualism. Left, right, up, down. They're all just identities to these people. There isn't even one rational thought process between them.
since right now that the society is more liberalized and we are facing the issues / problems, if the morals of the society will reset back to its proper state, (no abortion, no more gender identity or racialization of everything in the society.. etc) maybe it will put the society in back in order.
@@marvelstark3797 What is ‘in order’ in your opinion?
@@lilyh7567 a society without the woke virus contaminating some people.
@@marvelstark3797 What is ‘woke’. In your own words please.
A working conservatism is one that maintain the dynamics in a society that it continues to work in a more or less fashion without painful disruption to the stakeholders, while allowing for continuous trials and errors that do not have immediate systemic impacts, negative or positive, to address public issues. Ideally, there is the mechanism for curbing rent seeking, such that those have more does not continue to have more just because the had more.
Conservatism with the above interpretation should focus on uniting and incremental improvement, and not on splitting and disruption.
Who focus on splitting citizens into groups? Instill hatred and anger? Promote civil war? Extremists, fundamentalists, authoritarian regimes, revolutionaries, opportunists do, regardless how they label themselves and which umbrella they are under... real conservatism won't do these.
Conservatism has been sabotaged deliberately
"Who focus on splitting citizens into groups? Instill hatred and anger? Promote civil war?" Right wing think tanks out of Tufton street (at least in the UK). The modern "splitting citizens into groups" strategy they've adopted is a direct copy of Vladislav Surkov's when he was Vladimir Putin political strategist. Worked reasonably well in the US, hasn't done as well over here.
Although the Tories acting like this really isn't new thing though, Thatcher's rhetoric was pretty extreme and divisive to be honest. It just gets significantly worse when they are threatened. It's a move a desperation, all the while they are screaming at top volume that they are the "silent majority". It's beyond parody, especially in the US, the reality is that new technology and the Tories inability to adapt will leave them left behind and split until they do.
“The best and brightest of the British Right gathered in London…”. In a telephone kiosk.
“the best and the brightest of the british right” cuts to jacob rees mogg 😭😭😭😂😂😂
was about to say the same thing
@@gavinmc5285 nah, that’s not fair at all actually.
Spineless sychophant more like...
@@melville836 why it’s true.
@@gavinmc5285 That's not relevant or even a skill. Both staunch sides are now about figuring out how to break conventions to best serve their agenda. "understands how rules and order works" is not relevant when the goal has changed to who is at best breaking rules and order.
I'll be her friend.
I think I'm getting a hard Brexit guys.
I think the hardest part would be finding a Tory who tells the truth
Or any politician for that matter
False equivalence. Left is heroic , right is villainous. /s
Andrew Bridgen told the truth, Lee Anderson told the truth, Suella Braverman told the truth, and the Tory elite didn't wanna hear it.
Or a socialist who understands it
"Im not allowed to talk about immigration cause im white" and yet she wishes that the Conservative party would become more conservative on social issues (which means we dont have to be afraid we will get shut down or cancelled from speaking facts)?
I think sshe was being sarcastic. I hope
Sorry ,Jacob, How is the legislature itself irrevocably tied by law? If the law doesn't allow the UK to reduce immigration and the Conservatives have a pledge to reduce it, the legislature (the conservatives) should be acting to repeal or amend these laws to allow them to fulfill their mandate. Where is this action apparent?
The laws against many of the things carried out during the lockdowns was crystal clear, yet they moved heaven and earth to either change them or simply ignore them. That puts it all in perspective when they say that over a decade of being in power wasn't enough time to change the laws or do anything about multiculturalism.
"Best and brightest of the British right" = Jacob rees mogg
He's lasted very long though tbh
Long live the conservative values!
The conservatives don't have any values we need a labour government
A common thread through the Conservative Party ‘spineless’!!!
Generally conservatism in the restrictive social sense many see it is often not entirely consistent with maximising profits and productivity in a market, because some consumers and taxpayers make other choices for stability or to limit competitors profitability. Market signals also can reflect other choices. Maximising a personal utility purchase basket might involve all sort of choices not motivated by the cost or the legality. Much of the public undoubtedly seeks pleasure and bliss
Yeah the Tories are finished. The party is over, and now it's time to clear up the mess.
One problem that fundamentally prevents coherent action is terminology. "Left/right" and "conservative" have been meaningless for at least a decade. Terms like "Civilised" and "fair" aren't used but are central to the problems that the country faces (which are all stemming from corruption and uncivility)
She hit on the reporter, get in there lad
4:17 bro has avoided answering the question like a true conservative 🥰🥰🥰
Exactly like it was a yes or no question 😭😭😭
That blonde woman can be my mate ❤❤❤❤
While the Labour Party is always stretched between left of centre Social Democrats and Socialists while, the Conservative Party effectively threw out its right of centre Social Democrats to ensure the more lassaiz fair wing of free marketeer could complete its Brexit project (even though there has never been a strategy or a plan to make it work - let alone deliver benefits or recognisable success! ).
It's really unclear what the Nat C ideas can do to rebuild any consensus and maybe runs the danger of following the Republicans down the anti-woke rabbit hole.
The “anti-woke rabbit hole” means standing up for women as a material reality and is likely to win DeSantis the American Presidency as he is one of the few willing to stand up for the legal definition of women and women’s right to safety, privacy and dignity. While the left is burning down the support women have given them for decades.
Europe is dying. Only right wing can bring back the normal state of life
10:08 that feminine girl hitting on Stephen 😂
Our boy Steven obviously already smashed lol
whats her name ?
"the best and brrightest of the British Right"....... really? one has to wonder if the commentator knows his right from his left.....
I'd be interested to hear examples of what Kevin Roberts referred to as "the degradation of the free market".
I would hazard a guess at the largess during covid, the near zero interest rates & QE that have skewed the financial markets and made banks in the US & Europe fail at even a historically small interest rate rise.
the EU
I'm interested in hearing the definition of 'family values' from the men who speak of it.
@@Maja-Danmark
"family values"
Tentative wink-and-a-nod to the happy-clappy yeehah claque of righty tighty troglodyte inhabitants of Plato's cave.
What have they conserved? I don't see what the left is worried about.
"Meet the conservatives the Left fear the most"
"This week, the best and brightest of the British Right gathered in London for the National Conservatism conference."
"Speakers at NatCon were not afraid to touch on controversial issues, including demography, defending our history, immigration, and the degradation of our culture"
No question which side Torygraph alines itself with then ... a fair and balanced report, I do not expect.
Go and tell that to the Guardian!
Growing up as a lefty in a lefty ( now politically homeless for some time) household it was a given that The Telegraph was the Tory newspaper. It should be no surprise whatsoever that they are going to take a conservative stance. They are one of the few newspapers I pay an online subscription for as they are one of the only media outlets to consistently stand up for women. The Guardian who seem to consider themselves feminist have thrown women under the bus. Western politics everywhere is in crisis. The majority of people have no enthusiasm for any of the parties and politicians on offer.
Much better than labour who literally defend the rights of rapists and murderers stopping their deportations.
@@viviennedunbar3374 "The Guardian who seem to consider themselves feminist have thrown women under the bus"
Cite examples.
Why would anyone fear a bunch of ideologues with no practical solutions for our current problems?
Watching the first half of the video I was thinking NatCon has a strong whiff of Americanism and was unfortunately proved right watching the whole video. As an US resident I can share that American Conservatism's tenets are: gun rights, puritan Christianity & Laissez-faire capitalism. It wasn't mentioned in the video, but I wonder how much British NatCon movement is originating from, or being pushed by Christian religious lobby? Or even, American Christian lobby?
100% American funded.
Well it is certainly better than Orwellian Lib Dems and rampant Wokism . We have come to the conclusion that there must be something in the air we breath, as the world is now full of stupid people and gross stupidity. The world of the arch nincompoop. is becoming the norm.
And the problem with that would be?
If they want to be taken seriously then they have sideline the clowns like Mogg and Widecombe and others who come across extremely poorly.
Lets not forget Bonkers Boris , and Lizz No Trust .....
The conservative machine works through outrage. It has since Thatcher. Made worse by social media, they now generate political support through division
The main issue facing the country is that since 2010 is we are now seeing the effects of 13 years of austerity on all our services . Cuts to council budgets has caused lack of investment in housing , Cut to schools , Cuts to NHS, fire service, police serve , Private ownership of GP surgeries and resulted in lack of appointments and clinicians rather than GPs trying to do a job they are not qualified to do. Where is all money gone from this cuts . ?
In Tories' and their mates' pockets
Lol there was never any austerity. Borrowing has exploded.
We’re just a broke country, and set to become more so because Brexit hasn’t helped at all.
20,000,000 migrant people
It can't be called "austerity" if spending is still much higher than income. The more appropriate name would be "slightly less out-of-control spending".
The tories are toast but hanging on till the last minute.
9:32 I feel every word that was said. I too am fed up of all this bs.
The way JRM talks about the international human rights act as a hurdle the tories are trying to get over and get rid of is so scary
Just because something is called something good, e.g. "international human rights act", does not automatically make it a good thing. The USSR was commonly called a "workers' paradise", but it was the opposite of that. I know that because I grew up in that hell. It's a very common practice of the Political Left to _mislabel_ things in order to conceal their true purpose.
Why? We did perfectly well before foreign concepts of human rights entered statute.
@@gillespaling7039 no we didn't.
@@-Roche- Really? I think there has been a massive decline in our civil liberties after we adopted the HRA in 1998. Care to prove me wrong?
@@gillespaling7039 Sit doon Gilles
The Conservative ' Right ' ( not far right ) seems not to have any effect on the party. They should have broken away years ago.
It shows how little they care for the country if they are willing to withstand those nuts
Mass remigration. British people first. Its the same in any normal country the rights of the natives come first.
9:36 'maybe'. Smoooooth 😂
Im here for the blonde
"I did not pick up on a whiff of extremism"
They must've missed the parts that talked about banning abortion, and Rees-Mogg's blatant acception at the Tories' attempt to jerrymander
Ref postal voting. Nothing to see here, move along.
Banning abortion is not extreme, killing babies is extreme. And then inviting in a bunch of low skill workers as a solution? 😅😅
This is so weird. These people just need a hug lol
Yes.... normal common sense has become weird over the years.
Or perhaps they just want the country they love to not collapse and dissapear?
Need a hug buddy?
@@EdwardHohenheim Of course. Not just one either.
@@jonathanskeet5076 these people cannot even define or summarize what they stand for
We totally agree with that first young lady had to say , i hope she goes into politics
9:59 I don't believe someone as attractive as her doesn't have any friends...😅
I do. But I'd still friend her
Miriam Cates would save the Conservative Party.
There is nothing to fear from this small group of people.
Small? Surely they represent a great number of our countrymen and women. There’s a huge appetite for a confident, coherent and unified conservative vision. The red wall voters are small-c conservatives. As a Gen Zer myself, I’ve spoken to many people my age who feel that there’s a real conservative backlash brewing against the excesses of the millennial far-left.
The problem is the “Conservative” party has not been conservative in living memory, and the nature of proportional representation is such that opting for smaller parties is essentially throwing away a vote.
Don’t make the mistake though of underestimating the conservative sway of the people. It will find an outlet inevitably, just as it has done in Italy, Sweden, the Netherlands, Poland, Hungary…
@@ohwellwhateverr Yer crackin’ up!
No they don't full of right wing loonies who talk crap
This is a circus.
Why would anyone be scared of these entitled, upper middle class careerists?
I believe I'm somewhat Conservative!
Even though I have My flaws like every other human in this world, but I am Conservative of the traditions and things I love and value!
Left-wing ideology is a genuine threat that is almost becoming irrational I believe!
The best and brightest of the British right couldn't complete the Sun crossword between themselves.
The Conservative Party has nothing conservative to talk about, we need a pm that will put the UK first in investing in the people and industry rather than looking out of borders to fill the gap. Also on social issues, more traditional Christian values and less woke values like people who can't say what a woman is
The best and brightest? These bedwetters? 🤣😂🤣😂
4:04 always resort to putting the prettiest lady into the thumbnail when everyone knows that the whole conversation of which side is better is doomed to hold any value under its own weight as eventually it's policy of individual cabinet which decides on its own the actual decisions.
We simply have no one, literally no one, in the whole of that wasteland we call British politics who understands the importance of borders, language and culture. Are these people even literate?
Oh, they understand. They just don't care, or rather, they make it their mission to destroy those things.
as an american I can totally tell they were brits
just by looking how many of the people there were bald.
The Bullingdon Club have smashed the country.
The issue is that UK doesn't have a true right wing party anymore. Both parties are too far to the left.
I live now in Spain, and also heard a few days ago a debate of affairs in the US and Germany ... The consensus is that the global right/conservatives is afraid of its nuclear values. It has tried to morph into a center-leftist with the dream of courting new voters, while alienating their traditional voting base. Leftist are less prone to change vote. And when the right/conservatives reach power they fear tearing down even measures put in place by the former left/socialist/labor government, in spite of even having promised during the elections. They live in the mirage of being nice with the leftist opposition, while these are tuthless when they reach power, even in the USA. The power of the left as said in the video, is that the left infiltrates and colludes unilaterally all the positions of institutions. Unless appointed by consensus, then they were placed on ideological motives, so they should go.
Here in Spain, the conservatives have left the socio-eco-comunists snatch them the control of the Constitutional Court. In the past, many decisions were debatable ... but now it is so obscene and pro-party/government that it is referred to as the "Prostitutional Court" ...
It is a desolation to have our destiny in hands of of so many unfit for the job.
We've got 2 true right wing parties reform uk and ukip
Labour isn't left wing though neither obviously
Actions speak louder than words .
I've always debated between left and right ideals. It's like I can't make up my mind. It's like it's a bitter debate between idealism and realism. While ideals can become reality, and sometimes the ideal is better than reality, reality is still reality, and often protects people from the consequences of unchecked power. But then not all conservatives are the same conservatives. Maybe I should stop measuring the truth and validity of such ideas from societies perspective, and just believe what's good for me.
‘Best and brightest’
The Nat C conference showed itself as exactly that.
Politics is a little more complex than just Progressive Liberalism and Nazism.
@@jonathandnicholson Nazism is when happy and prosperous country.
Ah yes these are all socialists of course
Would have been great if NatCon had been advertised.
It was a private event
This is the best of the British Right? After 13 years of conservatives? Jeez.
Tory party used to be about financial viability. It's just gone weird and anti-woke and anti-migration. These are ideological issues. I'm not interested. I just want more money in my pocket. Growth doesn't happen unless ur population is growing. Our population is getting to old to support itself and will shrink in the coming years (if there is no migration). Check the stats! Migration = growth (that's just a inalienable fact that this tory doesn't don't get). Can we just have pragmatism!
3:45 She is absolutely beautiful
JRM says that we're tied in by human rights law. How does that tie us in? It's just a law that his party could repeal. They don't want to repeal it. They agree with it. They approve of its effects.
Excuse for doing nothing and pandering to the woke law industry. They demonstrated their lack of will with Brexit.
@@dolphin069 I blame that awful woke Winston Churchill, one of the main movers behind the HCHR,.
@@dolphin069 Brexit was/is a fantasy for the Right; it can never be what they wanted, as it requires the EU to dissolve and the UK to deregulate and the rest of the world also, with the UK being sort of 'in charge'; it a religeious idea based on Hard Right neoliberal ideology. It was and will remain undeliverable!
This conference highlights the importance of improving our private education programmes.
"The Telegraph " and "Truth " are an uncomfortable pairing.
Ever since I emigrated to UK a decade ago, I''ve voted conservative. My problem: they are not realy conservative. They maintain the nany-state, do not stop illegal immigration, and are indecisive protecting the free speech. I vote for them because they are less left than the left, but I would like to vote for a trully conservative party, like the one Thatcher led.
The Republicans in the USA are just as bad on immigration as the UK conservatives, if anything they might be worse. But immigration is the number 1 issue.
Fascists by any other name
Fascism is honest socialism.
We don't need to be associated with 'American' Conservatism thanks very much.
It's about bloody time!!
Conservative Party threw out their MP Andrew Bridgen for talking about issues which they didn't like talking about, namely - covid. Conservative thinking people should take a close look at Reclaim Party
Andrew Bridgen is even too nuts for the conservatives, and that's saying something
Completely agree. The silence among Tory MPs over the government's treatment of Bridgen is concerning.
What is the correct collective noun for a room full of Nat-C's?
Steaming pile?
A false pride...?
A rally?
The future!
Whilst it is true that the UK is more polarised post internet ,I don't believe the hard fringe ;left or right has a place in mainstream British life.
Absolutely!
The last true Conservative Leader this country had was elected in 1979.
who is this lady? 3:51
Lol the telegraph knew exactly what they were doing by choosing that thumbnail
Interesting that journalists from left wing outlets were not invited
They are affraid... All of them!
Well most of them will be out of parliament come the next election
I usually like to watch Telegraph podcasts. I don't necessarily agree with everything, but the journalism is generally good. However this one, talking about 'rampant wokism' is more like red top journalism!
It’s a topic conservatives are concerned about.
Unfortunately most of them couldn’t even define what ‘woke’ is if asked. Beyond some vague catch all term for things they don’t like.
@@christianround2774 it’s a pejorative for left wing social policies they believe are well intentioned but poorly thought out
@@christianround2774 there's tonnes of "insults" they don't have definitions for "radical left","communist", "woke" etc
It happens on both sides, using things that sound good to your base but have no definition
@@Skippymabobdon't both sides this. The left clearly spends more time discussing definitions so they can have deeper discussions about society. This often leads to insanely microscopic breakdowns of seemingly benign things. Which often gets spun as "lefties think X is Y"
Blimey, it most be bad when the Daily Torygraph opens with “the Conservatives are in crisis.”
To be fair, they have repeatedly warned the Conservative Party they are deluded about their chances at the next election.
i'd be more scared of a spider in my shower then this lot
Who's the blonde??!! I'll be her friend!
The torygraph is in danger of becoming the loonygraph
Crossed that line a while ago.
The Telegraph pinned it's colours to the masts a long time ago.They don't really hide their agenda
The Conservatives must have lost their way to the venue as well if all those empty seats are anything to go by.
10:10 they totally smashed right after the event.
whats her name ?
Looking forward to a Keir Starmer government
Looking forward to a conservative running the government because he's a conservative using a Labour flag. Right...
@K.R.O yeah the conservatives are not actually Conservative
The moment he knelt for BLM, was the moment he was never getting my vote.
@@SirHargreeves Starmer?
Really drives the hypocrisy of cancel culture in the conservative movement when the first 30 seconds of this video has scenes of 2 people being removed for bringing up topics the Tories will not engage with.
Disillusionment is not with Tory or any party. It’s the differential between the past and present which people can’t reconcile with.
I hope New Zealand politicians are watching. Presently the National party is Woke and does not have an answer to Labour. DemocarcyNZ is rising!! I see this latter movement as very much to the right of center. Family is paramount. That is the traditional family.
Very articulate interviews. Contrast the speakers with the pyschos in the States.
Pretty typical of the Conservative to coin a phrase and not actually know what it means to anyone because everyone thinks it means different things to everyone 😂😂😂
I have absolutely no fear of these basket cases and dingbats. Theyte very much the fringe of the party. The idea we're in fear is palpably absurd.
Using the word national, at the front of any political Party, never ends well. If only I could remember the name of the last right wing political party that proudly put the word National, at the Front, of its name.
And the second word in that party's name was socialism.
@@ericlefevre7741 Exactly.
(Scottish) National Party?
@@0w784g Substitutes the Scottish for British
Not a political party but an organisation. Our health service is also an organisation
Miriam claims, at every turn, that she attended Cambridge University.
Unless standards have been vastly degraded beyond all reasonable criteria, I cannot understand how a reputable college would have been so ridiculously woke/inclusive as to admit one such as Ms. Cates.
She is coy. Could someone please indicate which college she attended? It would be a charitable act. I seek only to ensure that my sons will register at an alternative.
Another of your schizophrenic takes.
The blonde girl is transgender right?
Rampant poverty and Homelessness is more of a concern than wokeism I think.
@Bill Conquerer I have No idea I live in the UK, California is not in the UK,this article is centred on the UK,I personally believe that issues concerning suffering take precedence over greed and Identity politics wether they be Nationalism or Wokeism,I take it I'll now be virtue signalling from the right wing book of bullshit?
Ahaha I agree with it all, but conservatives are historically people who feel things are doomed. Dostoyevsky, Spengler, Carlyle, Hayek, Junger, Tolkien to name a few. But Moogs conception of a conservative is some neo liberal type a feel again. I’m conservative in many ways but I’m sure as hell not optimistic. The current situation in the west the last 50 years is existential.