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Great video again. I thought I would share some experiences I just had with RV suspension, the blueox, and the Roadmaster Active Suspension (RAS) component all working together. The short of it is the Blue Ox SwayPro works great on our Grand Design 297 QB. I had opted for some Firestone air airbags on my 2016 F150 FX4 Lariat and unfortunately the Roadmaster Active Suspension system does not work with the airbags physically because they do not fit over the airbag brackets. If I had to choose the better option I would choose the RAS over the airbags now. If my airbags fail at some point I will transition to the RAS, or whatever they have that is equal to or better than at that time.
For my 2014 Tundra; the RAS installation required me to remove 2 nuts holding a bracket onto the eye of the back leafspring so I could slide the RAS onto the leafspring eye. Then I had to put bracket back on and retighten 2 nuts to around 77ft/lbs. The RAS for the tundra came with some spacers for the part that connects under the leafspring by the axle. The tricky part was getting those leafspring eye brackets off. I had to lift the rear differential back up some to release leafspring strain on the brackets to get them off; while using a prybar. Just letting the rear differential hang was adding too much stress to the leafsprings and rear brackets. There was 'sweet spot' for releasing tension on leafsprings which released tension on the rear leafspring brackets. Also when adjusting the coils to slip in that black disc, I think I allowed more movement of the disc to slide through the coils, than you showed in your video. So mine are probably past 40%..maybe 50%?. I used two socket wrenches to increase RAS spring tension - one at the bottom near the center of leafspring where it meets the axle and one at the top of RAS- big bolts near the rear leafspring eyes. Also I held the rear differential up just slightly for support. Direction said 1/2" up, but I let the rear diff hang and "just" touch it with the floor jack for support. Anyway the truck feels so much better. No trailer hookup yet. But without the hookup the truck has less body sway/roll around corners and bumps are much less felt in the rear of truck. Still feel them in the front however, but that would require suspension mods to the front of the vehicle, too. Also I think rear is lifted up almost 2 inches more than before, but it looks good. Great video, btw and channel. *Cincinnati and that part of Ohio are familiar stomping grounds years ago.
So I didn’t catch “why” you had or wanted to do this. Was pulling the Salem a problem? I ask because I drove a F150 Fx2 with our Salem and there were times where I thought it was “too much”
I think it was more of a want than a need. After the last adjustment I did on my BlueOx SwayPro, I didn't have much, if any sway. While my Salem is fairly light, it is long and I can really feel a crosswind at times. I thought the RAS might help.
@@GoTogetherGoFar gotcha. We upgraded our truck and a lot (if not all) concern disappeared. Though there are times I’ve considered making tweaks to make things “better”. Which at this point is negligible and prolly similar to you. 99% good, but I could make it 99.1% 😂
I had this installed on my Chevy Silverado. It makes a noticeable improvement in handling and load leveling. I look forward to seeing it in action when we pick up our travel trailer next month. I enjoy your videos!
Thanks! I pulled my trailer about 3 hours this past weekend and noticed a big difference. I am still working on a video where I hook up a little Bluetooth sensor that shows movement in the rear of the truck. I still have to go film the "after" here in the next few days. It should show how well it actually works or not.
Another great video. A couple of questions for you. First question, why did you select the second hole on the shackle at the front of the roadmaster as opposed to the other holes? Second question, I have installed firestone air suspension and will also be towing a 30 foot trailer with the blueox SwayPro system, will this interfere with any of that? I have the max tow package on my FX4 Lariat (2016) and I’m also wondering if it’s going to interfere with any of that? I have the electronic suspension system in mine. I just don’t want to cause it to be overcompensating.
I'm not sure I can speak to how the electronic suspension system will react. I don't have that on my truck. Sounds like you have a lot going on with your suspension. I'd probably have to refer you to Roadmaster. As far as the hole I selected, I just picked the one that would require me to have to tighten the least. Either one would work fine.
I think it does. I forgot to measure when i did the video. But when I'm parked next to other F150s, I notice my back looks a little jacked up.It is about an inch or two.
1 MM or 2 MM ?? I am pulling a 30" travel trailer with an Anderson load-leveling system. About 650# toung weight. Half ton Silverado. Trying to decide how much torque. Thinking the 2 mm. You agree?
Right now, I kept it the same, but I think I need to lower it back down. I've had the chance to take it out a few more times and I think I'm too high in the front of the trailer now by just a little.
For the some make/model yes. The one I have is for an F150. I don't think ot would fit a Ram 1500. I think there a few minor differences in the way it hooks up.
Question, did yours RAS kit come with bump stop spacers.... mine did same part # 3611YHD, just received it today. Do you think I need to install them as well? In all the RAS install videos I haven't seen anyone put this spacer on, wondering if this something new they've added to the kit.
I'm honestly not eve sure what they are. I just Googled it and didn't see anything specific. Long story short, no, I didn't need to add anything extra.
I just finished the install of the RAS on my F150 and also did not install the extra bump stop spacers... but before install rear was 41" after installed it actually lifted the back end up 2", I also upgraded the rear shocks to Bilstein 5100's
I'll add to that -- RAS says that using the second or even third hole increases the strength of the system a bit *IF* that little bit of extra bracket hanging off the end doesn't interfere with anything.
Greatest product ever! Easy install. The ride on my 3/4 ton Duramax towing 15 K lbs. & empty is amazing! Thanks for video! Makes it fun to ride again (no harsh ride , empty or loaded).
Hey Will, thinking about installing on my Chevy 2500 Duramax as well. I Hotshot and pull Gooseneck flatbed, my wife complains when I have the trailer hooked up. Says it’s a rough/shaky ride in the back. Will it smoothen that it out quite a bit?
@@mohammadchowdhury3843 Hello, I have Timbrens for the load, Roadmaster for the comfort. But the Roadmaster will make you love your truck again! Roadmaster gives less axle wrap, more ground clearance, (sagging springs are inevitable.)
Will these work in combination with some ride rite airbags? I just got a pop up cabover for my Nissan Titan and want to beef everything up so that it rides better.
Great question. And no it doesn't. Your truck's load capacity is based on more than just the suspension. It improves the performance/handling of the truck when under heavy load.
Good question. To be honest, I'm not 100% sure. If I were to guess, I would guess that the correct spacer hole depends on the make and model of the truck you're putting it on. I think they try to make the parts as universal as possible.
You want the axis of the RAS to be balanced with the axle. You can certainly use the last or furthest bolt hole but it will work better if you set it up for your particular application. I've seen a video on here about the setup but it's bad form to link another channel's content to this one.
I realize this is an old comment but in case anybody else has this question, I thought this video provided a pretty good explanation on this topic. th-cam.com/video/kxP_w25bs5o/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=EliHauschild
They are only made for real trucks that can actually haul stuff lol. All kidding aside, they are missing out on a large market by ignoring the Tacomas.
You might get want to go to their website for the company number and give them a call. There’s a YT video of a guy correcting an install mistake on a ‘07 Taco. Also, I called and spoke to the same Nolan this guy mentions. Super cool and extremely helpful.
Great video Andy GTGF ! I really liked how you clearly demonstrated the 1mm and 2mm adjustment procedure. Best practice suggestion/questions?: At 9:28 would you or Roadmaster recommend to put a little thread locker like Loctite red 2701 on the threads? Follow up with a little corrosion/rust inhibitor? Temperature, Pressure, and Vibration concerns always makes me obsess over the little things to ensure a enduring solution. Now, please lead us with to your review while your camping/RV trailer towing with Roadmaster Active Suspension.
Please support Go Together, Go Far, by subscribing. Subscribing will help improve our content and continue the journey our family is on. Be sure to check gotogethergofar.com/how-does-roadmaster-active-suspension-work/ for more info on how the Roadmaster Active Suspension works. We also have a ton of other content on there that you may like as well. Thanks for taking the time to watch our videos!
Great video again. I thought I would share some experiences I just had with RV suspension, the blueox, and the Roadmaster Active Suspension (RAS) component all working together. The short of it is the Blue Ox SwayPro works great on our Grand Design 297 QB. I had opted for some Firestone air airbags on my 2016 F150 FX4 Lariat and unfortunately the Roadmaster Active Suspension system does not work with the airbags physically because they do not fit over the airbag brackets. If I had to choose the better option I would choose the RAS over the airbags now. If my airbags fail at some point I will transition to the RAS, or whatever they have that is equal to or better than at that time.
Great info! Thanks for sharing!
Welcome.
I am Farah from Saudi Arabia.
Does this system support the Japanese Closer pickup?
How much is it worth?
Thank you
For my 2014 Tundra; the RAS installation required me to remove 2 nuts holding a bracket onto the eye of the back leafspring so I could slide the RAS onto the leafspring eye. Then I had to put bracket back on and retighten 2 nuts to around 77ft/lbs. The RAS for the tundra came with some spacers for the part that connects under the leafspring by the axle. The tricky part was getting those leafspring eye brackets off. I had to lift the rear differential back up some to release leafspring strain on the brackets to get them off; while using a prybar. Just letting the rear differential hang was adding too much stress to the leafsprings and rear brackets. There was 'sweet spot' for releasing tension on leafsprings which released tension on the rear leafspring brackets. Also when adjusting the coils to slip in that black disc, I think I allowed more movement of the disc to slide through the coils, than you showed in your video. So mine are probably past 40%..maybe 50%?. I used two socket wrenches to increase RAS spring tension - one at the bottom near the center of leafspring where it meets the axle and one at the top of RAS- big bolts near the rear leafspring eyes. Also I held the rear differential up just slightly for support. Direction said 1/2" up, but I let the rear diff hang and "just" touch it with the floor jack for support. Anyway the truck feels so much better. No trailer hookup yet. But without the hookup the truck has less body sway/roll around corners and bumps are much less felt in the rear of truck. Still feel them in the front however, but that would require suspension mods to the front of the vehicle, too. Also I think rear is lifted up almost 2 inches more than before, but it looks good. Great video, btw and channel. *Cincinnati and that part of Ohio are familiar stomping grounds years ago.
Thank you so much for the info. I hope it helps some people.
Confusing title because your truck is NOT a 2021.
Thanks, pretty good explanation how to do this, finally someone shows the entire installation 👍👍 .
So I didn’t catch “why” you had or wanted to do this. Was pulling the Salem a problem? I ask because I drove a F150 Fx2 with our Salem and there were times where I thought it was “too much”
I think it was more of a want than a need. After the last adjustment I did on my BlueOx SwayPro, I didn't have much, if any sway. While my Salem is fairly light, it is long and I can really feel a crosswind at times. I thought the RAS might help.
@@GoTogetherGoFar gotcha. We upgraded our truck and a lot (if not all) concern disappeared. Though there are times I’ve considered making tweaks to make things “better”. Which at this point is negligible and prolly similar to you. 99% good, but I could make it 99.1% 😂
I had this installed on my Chevy Silverado. It makes a noticeable improvement in handling and load leveling. I look forward to seeing it in action when we pick up our travel trailer next month. I enjoy your videos!
Thanks! I pulled my trailer about 3 hours this past weekend and noticed a big difference. I am still working on a video where I hook up a little Bluetooth sensor that shows movement in the rear of the truck. I still have to go film the "after" here in the next few days. It should show how well it actually works or not.
I’ll look forward to it,
Another great video. A couple of questions for you. First question, why did you select the second hole on the shackle at the front of the roadmaster as opposed to the other holes? Second question, I have installed firestone air suspension and will also be towing a 30 foot trailer with the blueox SwayPro system, will this interfere with any of that? I have the max tow package on my FX4 Lariat (2016) and I’m also wondering if it’s going to interfere with any of that? I have the electronic suspension system in mine. I just don’t want to cause it to be overcompensating.
I'm not sure I can speak to how the electronic suspension system will react. I don't have that on my truck. Sounds like you have a lot going on with your suspension. I'd probably have to refer you to Roadmaster. As far as the hole I selected, I just picked the one that would require me to have to tighten the least. Either one would work fine.
Awesome video! Subscribed! I watched the comparison video as well! Keep up the good work!
I appreciate that!
If I missed it sorry. But does it put tension in a way that it causes the truck to sit higher? Inch or so I’m thinking?? Thanks, great video
I think it does. I forgot to measure when i did the video. But when I'm parked next to other F150s, I notice my back looks a little jacked up.It is about an inch or two.
1 MM or 2 MM ?? I am pulling a 30" travel trailer with an Anderson load-leveling system. About 650# toung weight. Half ton Silverado. Trying to decide how much torque. Thinking the 2 mm. You agree?
I used the 2 mm. Seemed to work great.
@@GoTogetherGoFar Thanks!
If it raises the back end up by an inch did you adjust your ball height back down to level the trailer back out or did you keep it the same?
Right now, I kept it the same, but I think I need to lower it back down. I've had the chance to take it out a few more times and I think I'm too high in the front of the trailer now by just a little.
Do you know if this could be swapped to a different vehicle?
For the some make/model yes. The one I have is for an F150. I don't think ot would fit a Ram 1500. I think there a few minor differences in the way it hooks up.
Will this work and help for a truck slide in camper to avoid some sink?
Probably. Remember, it doesn't increase your cargo capacity. But it can help your truck handle loads like a slide in camper better.
Question, did yours RAS kit come with bump stop spacers.... mine did same part # 3611YHD, just received it today. Do you think I need to install them as well? In all the RAS install videos I haven't seen anyone put this spacer on, wondering if this something new they've added to the kit.
I'm honestly not eve sure what they are. I just Googled it and didn't see anything specific. Long story short, no, I didn't need to add anything extra.
I just finished the install of the RAS on my F150 and also did not install the extra bump stop spacers... but before install rear was 41" after installed it actually lifted the back end up 2", I also upgraded the rear shocks to Bilstein 5100's
I believe the bump stop spacers offset the bumpstops a little bit so they don't interfere with the RAS mechanism.
Does this help with squatting, or did the rear sink the same amount?
It helps.
Great video, thanks. Why did you place the bolt in the second hole and not the first?
It just seems to fit a little tigher.
I'll add to that -- RAS says that using the second or even third hole increases the strength of the system a bit *IF* that little bit of extra bracket hanging off the end doesn't interfere with anything.
You didn’t have to put the bump stop spacer in on your application?
Greatest product ever! Easy install. The ride on my 3/4 ton Duramax towing 15 K lbs. & empty is amazing! Thanks for video! Makes it fun to ride again (no harsh ride , empty or loaded).
Thanks so much!
Hey Will, thinking about installing on my Chevy 2500 Duramax as well. I Hotshot and pull Gooseneck flatbed, my wife complains when I have the trailer hooked up. Says it’s a rough/shaky ride in the back. Will it smoothen that it out quite a bit?
@@mohammadchowdhury3843 Hello, I have Timbrens for the load, Roadmaster for the comfort. But the Roadmaster will make you love your truck again! Roadmaster gives less axle wrap, more ground clearance, (sagging springs are inevitable.)
Will these work in combination with some ride rite airbags? I just got a pop up cabover for my Nissan Titan and want to beef everything up so that it rides better.
Awesome video, why the bolt in-the second hole on the part that goes under the leaf spring
If you can fit it in the other hole, that's fine too. I think RAS uses that same part for a handful of truck models.
@@GoTogetherGoFar thanks mine is on order
@@Tmil1035 Let us know how it goes.
Will it increase your f150 payload?
Great question. And no it doesn't. Your truck's load capacity is based on more than just the suspension. It improves the performance/handling of the truck when under heavy load.
Did you install the standard duty or the heavy duty?
Heavy duty.
Do any of the nut's come loose or do you have to at times check the nut's to tighten them again?
I checked a few times and never had any issues with them coming loose.
@@GoTogetherGoFar Thank You
Wonder if this would work on a lowered truck
Good question, but I don't know the answer.
There is no mention of why there are so many holes for spacer bolt and which holes to use ?
Good question. To be honest, I'm not 100% sure. If I were to guess, I would guess that the correct spacer hole depends on the make and model of the truck you're putting it on. I think they try to make the parts as universal as possible.
You want the axis of the RAS to be balanced with the axle. You can certainly use the last or furthest bolt hole but it will work better if you set it up for your particular application. I've seen a video on here about the setup but it's bad form to link another channel's content to this one.
I realize this is an old comment but in case anybody else has this question, I thought this video provided a pretty good explanation on this topic. th-cam.com/video/kxP_w25bs5o/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=EliHauschild
Why doesn’t roadmaster build for Tacoma?
Good question. But unfortunately I don't know. Sorry.
They are only made for real trucks that can actually haul stuff lol. All kidding aside, they are missing out on a large market by ignoring the Tacomas.
You might get want to go to their website for the company number and give them a call. There’s a YT video of a guy correcting an install mistake on a ‘07 Taco. Also, I called and spoke to the same Nolan this guy mentions. Super cool and extremely helpful.
My F150 has a 2" lift, will this kit work?
Great video Andy GTGF ! I really liked how you clearly demonstrated the 1mm and 2mm adjustment procedure. Best practice suggestion/questions?: At 9:28 would you or Roadmaster recommend to put a little thread locker like Loctite red 2701 on the threads? Follow up with a little corrosion/rust inhibitor? Temperature, Pressure, and Vibration concerns always makes me obsess over the little things to ensure a enduring solution. Now, please lead us with to your review while your camping/RV trailer towing with Roadmaster Active Suspension.
I thought the same thing about the Loctite but the RAS instructions say not to do that. Thanks for the feedback!
That truck is not a 2021............
It is for this year, so you know this a current video.