Its one of the better ones, but you might want to check out the Baloran The River, with moog source oscillators, wholy moly it sounds good. Its up there with polys like the Oberheim Matrix 12 and Yamaha Cs-80, soundwise!
@@mikel5163 I own a sub 37, and it does not stand a chance against the Grandmother and Matriarch, the difference is in the oscillators, which are far more comparable to the mini moog model D, in the Matriarch and Granny. As for the peak, its really flimsy and weak sounding. Most virtual analogues sound better then it and the summit.
Oh man, I'm a guitarist and trying to get into synths and stuff so I've been watching a ton of videos lately and that sound at 0:20 is one of the best tones ever. So lush and relaxing yet so full and juicy. Love the video!!
I’ve had my Prophet 6 for a little over a year now. It’s easily the most expensive gear I’ve owned. It’s an excellent synth, too. The only issue I have with it is the price. It’s a simple synth, with a straightforward interface. A simple price would make it a no brainer, but that price tag makes it impractical. It does sound excellent, but I haven’t made up my mind on whether or not I’m keeping it.
only just discovered this channel, love it, excellent stuff! Currently looking at a P6 module, either that or an OB-6 Module. I deserve both really 😉 R.I.P Dave...the mans legacy left to music is immeasurable!
Nice! I fretted over the OB vs the P6 for months. Went with the OB for its character. That said, I can see how the P6 is a more flexible, beautiful sounding instrument.
@@MilesAwayOfficial I like them both a lot, they're just different. The p6 might have a bit more versatility, but the OB-6 has its own really unique sound. I have the OB-6 module and the p6 keyboard, that probably has to do with the p6 being my desert island synth :)
@@shahruzmoshtaelAwesome to hear. I think that the OB-6 would be more for me then since I already have a Summit for versatility. I love characterful synths!
Great video, as usual. Thanks for your work. My request: more of your music! I love the intros, backing music, and snippets. I can only imagine your full stuff must be great.
I have lots of music on the TH-cam audio library, I I’ll make a full release by end of 2020, typically I’ve always been a player or producer on other artists music.
I just want to say, I also would really like to hear a release from you. The vids of you playing, there’s some awesome tracks I relistened a good few times! P.s. the prophet 6 is my dream synth, it’s gonna appear in my future, I can’t wait!
Great composition on the intro! I've had my Prophet 6 for about 4 years now and I still use it every day. It's also the most expensive piece of gear I own, but I really wanted to buy something that had zero compromises on the sound. I think it's still in its own class, along with the OB-6.
This video came crazy perfect. I bought a Prophet 6 21 days ago and there are a few days left to give it back. Didn't want to before this video and it didn't change that. :) Thanks!
I bought a P6 in Berlin in 2016. Love that thing endlessly. I've never "played" a synth as much as I do this one... hours plonking away as if it's a Steinway. It's on all my recordings. I've been in California since March, thanks to the pandemic. Couldn't bear being apart from my Prophet 6 so I bought a second one. I have a decent bunch of great and groovy synths, including a Prophet 5. If it came down to using only a single synth, the P6 would be it, no question.
Thanks for saying this, I’ve tried extremely hard to push that instruments are about the entire experience NOT just the sound, or feature off a piece of paper. No one can be unbiased when talking about a piece, it’s impossible, it’s based off too many variables. We can’t even trust ourselves to speak objectively, so I keep it subjective 100% of the time.
@@NoirEtBlancVie Was trying to explain to a friend the other day why I might have some music hardware that costs so much and technically can't do any more than I could do for cheap with software. You put it well, it's about instruments and your relationship with them and expression you can achieve with them.
I've also had mine for 5 years and it was the impetus for me to setup my studio again after a 10 year hiatus. The things that initially attracted me to the P6 still hold; simplicity, quality. Its quickly and easily useful in my electronic compositions without losing the flow. The quality of the design, sonic character and materials have made it a classic. It just might be my desert-island synth...another octave would have been nice tho.
Absolutely a desert island synth for me, it’s not the fanciest, but then when you break down the feature set its enough and more, plus somehow you can get where you wanna be without a screen, who knew!
Love my prophet 6. It is a beast and sometimes takes a second to tame...but if you just take a moment, smoke a joint, this synth can take you there. People say the filter is harsh, and it can be...but just don’t open it that much and you’ll be fine. But it can get there if you want it to. It can be whatever u want it to be
Great honest review. I also love the sound of the prophet 6. I'm not a techie and it sometimes seems you have to be one to make electronic music. But it's the making music bit that matters to me.
I totally agree, its so immediate when you play and tweak it you always know there is gold just about to come out of the sound! I've been tempted to sell the Pro2 a few times but never the Prophet 6 :D
Totally agree, it’s not about the bells and whistles here, it gives you just enough for what you’d practically need. It could go further with the polymod section.
Your video highlights what I love about Dave Smith and all the Sequential instruments: they're all just a little bit different from each other which really allows one to find the right instrument in the lineup. There's a baseline quality and craftsmanship that is the hallmark of all DS instruments, but - unlike some other manufacturers that come to mind - I never feel like they are shooting in the dark or trying to get the feature combination that will sell the most. They recognise they're a niche player in a niche market and deliver exactly what each product is; neither a one-size-fits-all nor a feature cram. For me, that instrument is the Rev2 and I feel exactly as passionate as you express about the ~6. The ~6 is really close! But the Rev2 nails what I needed in an analogue sound designing machine. There are some things that annoy me about the Rev2 - lack of direct patch access (a nice plus in the ~6!), lackluster effects, no inline high-pass filtre - but in the studio I have rack FX and on the stage I don't care! The sound, ultimately, is SO GOOD! I kept thinking, "I should get one of these FPGA synths" or, "what about a digital with analogue modelling?" but the raw sound out of the jacks was the first and last determining factor for me, and I think that's really what all of us DS fans come back to the most. Thanks for a great retrospective.
The sequence you play at the beginning is really beautiful, deeply textured. I love it! Thank you for your thoughts, not that I can afford either but with the prophet 5 out my brain can't decide between which it wants more lmao
Haha, I couldn't afford it either at the time, so I'm with you :) Thank you for the compliment on the composition, it was originally a piano piece from maybe 6 years or more ago. Prophet 6 vs Prophet 5...it's an easy choice. OB6 ;)
I bought my P6 when it first came out. Never regretted it. So much versatility, the interface is simple yet inspiring, and I still feel like I'm just scratching the surface. Definitely would recommend if you have that hankering for hardware. If not, just get the Arturia soft synths and your productions will be just as well off.
But Dave Smith did it again with the Prophet 5/10 REV 4, a wonderful looking and sounding remake of a classic Just like you (during the time you made this video), I never saw that coming. What great times we live in. This truly is a great time for synthesizers!!!!
Great video and exactly how I feel about the simple, no menu diving interface. I have an OB6, but they have very similar design philosophies. I always thought I was the guy who liked menu diving and tweaking. But the OB6 changed my mind. It just lets you create and not worry about chasing the sound, cause it always sounds great. Cheers!
100% agree, I was the same. Looking at a synth and then playing it and being like, “huh, what more do I actually need?” That’s how I feel about it. Makes me think all those super deep synths were technical marvels, but not practically real world useful.
If you can't afford a Prophet 6 but want THAT sound, check out the DSI Toraiz AS1, which is a one voice Prophet 6, like a Pro-One version of it, the most underrated synth ever!
I got my Prophet 6 in 2015. 8 years later, everything you are saying here still holds up. It is in my opinion irreplicable synth. Unfortunately today it costs $1,400 more than I paid for it. It is simply too expensive for most people.
While I agree on the no menus approach, it really makes me crazy not to have program names. Having to rely on a number to find a favorite program is just absurd imo, so I write down on a text file the program's names. And no, I don't plan to buy the crappy soundtower software just to be able to see the program's names. Other than that, it's a superb synth indeed.
I would like to own a P6, though it probably won’t happen. I already have a Prophet Rev2, a Novation Summit, and Juno 106, plus I just bought the Pro 3. That along with my Moog Subsequent 37 and Grandmother, plus all my modular stuff covers pretty much every synth sound I need, though I’d still gladly love one for all the reasons you mentioned. I love immediate synths. Good job, Bud.
@ghost mall Thank you. That is a very good idea. If you were going to buy an analog poly synth for $2500 (give or take), would it be a P6? Curious to know your preference
+1 for the conclusion. I've had and tested out many polysynths. Prophet 6 always wins hands down. The only other polysynth I have is a Blofeld and that's just because it's so radically different and it has 16 part multitimbrality.
That’s a great combination, perfect duo of synths. It’s all about different textures right. I still think the Blofeld is one of the last great classic Waldorfs!
Great review. I'd never buy one, but great review - it's always interesting to hear what attracts people to various instruments and I'm glad you still love your Prophet 6 :)
Thinking about pulling the trigger on a P6 to complement the fizzy sounds of my OB-6. Sort of wish Sequential would just announce their new synth already so I can just pull the trigger :D
Of course! Five years already? That seems twice as long as it feels. Guys, I remember discussing about there being almost no VCO synths on the market FOR YEARS, and we would argue about whether there would ever even be a VCO poly again. Maybe a couple of really small boutique single oscillator monos? Dave in interviews, several times had said, “Its too expensive today to make a poly VCO.” LIAR!!! When this was announced, people pretty much lost their shit. I ultimately went the AS-1, OB6, and Rev2 route. Prolly upgrading the AS-1 to a Pro3 soon. This thing sounds amazing though, and now we have several VCO poly on the market. Shit, it was a big deal when the VCO Minibrute came out. I’ll probably get one of these at some point. Its not just the sound, but this next gen of DSI/Seq synths really stepped up the UI experience. The OB6 and especially the Rev2 for being so deep/complex, is incredibly easy and enjoyable to program. I know, I’m an LFO whore as well. I do agree that one LFO is adequate on a poly most of the time. If I’m using more than one its usually tiny amounts of modulation. If I’m making FX, I need lots of LFOs so just use another synth, like the Rev2 or Blofeld. Another key for DSI/Seq......is Dave’s commitment not only to making great sounding and easy to use synthesizers, but also to embracing the technology afforded to us these days. I mean, he did invent MIDI, so of course the ease of interaction with a DAW, automating those patches that would require me to have three pairs of hands, saving and organizing patches in a digital library, is all really easy on DSI/Seq products. For a hybrid guy like me, this is really important.....and something that doesn’t always just work with other manufacturers. No it doesn’t sound just like a P5, but its not that far away. Yes, the Rev2 is really damn close. Besides synth nerds like us, nobody can even tell the difference between a VCO/VCF setup and software.
Beautiful machine. In a studio it's just so simple to layer tracks and tweak sounds super fast and it sounds so right, I'm delighted to often use no EQ to mix it in.
Totally agree, it just fits in tracks! I talked to Dave casually and brought up how I really wanted an OB6, he was basically like “The OB knocks your socks off, the P6 just fits.” I agreed 100%
@@NoirEtBlancVie Wow ahaha. When the OB6 got out raved about how nicer it sounded compared the P6. Maybe time will tell the opposite. Real glad to have that one even though the OB6 would have been fine. At the end, if it works good, it's fine.
Im selling my prophet 6... great synth but dont have the time to invest in it as it deserves, great thing is these have pretty decent resale value compared to some out there
“Never so Prophet 5 again” abs here we are with P5 rev 4 announced. That did not age well 😅. I might think about getting a P6 instead so I really appreciate your insights. 😊
I'm planning to buy my first poly synth (I have a Moog GM), the P6 is one of my options, along with the U.D.O. Super 6 and the Rev2 + something else. Can't decide, maybe I'll wait until NAMM 2021 too see what's going on and save more money.
I also own Moog Granny and P6 was my next choice for sure. But just like you I would wait until January for the next NAMM edition because Dave Smith may release new polyphony, may be 8 voices, may be more modulation matrixes, who knows... I remember when I bought Korg Minilogue, they just released Minilogue XD 3 months later and I was so mad :D :D so I guess I should wait for a bit.
Even better now with the newest firmware update. The Slop function can be switched to a Vintage function to bring the Prophet 6 closer to sounding like the Prophet 5 Rev 4.
nice video... dave has the amazing skill to create synths, that you cant stop using them over and over and they never bore you... already have the p08, pro2 and an evolver... i thought maybe i should not buy the whole range of sequential :-))))) but ob6 or p6 is still hot.... i wonder if an UDO will give us a more "rolandish" competitor
Love this synth Supa big sounds yes the VCOs made the difference the high pass with resonance is my spice on this monster. No need for more lfos only two short comings on this beast why the shorty keybed? and why no patch naming ? I keep re writing patches over. Oh and do try the mfb synth pro lovely vintage sounding three VCOs two filters eight voices multitimbral about the size of a volca $1,100
I have always loved Oberheim synths. I had the choice to buy a P6 or an OB6, and went for the P6. This because I was looking for a vintage sound with modern stability, and the P6 sounds more like the P5 than the OB6 sounds like any OB synth. That’s not to say the OB6 is bad; it’s an amazing piece of kit, but I feel it’s a different beast altogether. The other reason is that the P6 is way more versatile. I feel like if you’re looking for a versatility synth, make it a modern one, whereas I’m happy to go vibe specific with vintage.
I like your synth man. I generally like analog synth, but I like the one you show. I've never seen prophet 6 but I like sound of it and also its pure analog interface with those red lights and digits etc. Unfortunately I have no way to get such a synth so I'm just watching
the way you feel about the prophet 6 is the way I feel about the 106. I use it everyday and the sound is priceless along with the stripped back functionality. Im also looking for a juno6/60. Either of those with the 106 I feel like its a match made in heaven.
@@Nunchuckstraberry naaaaah, like, original Prophet or nothing. Go big or go home 😂 106 would probably be the old vintage synth I’d buy again. Hold onto to that one, I regret selling mine that’s for sure…😭
I just traded 2 synths two of my nicest pedals and a drum machine for a prophet 6.... My initial reaction. The overall tone is so good. Warm and lush. Best overall tone of any synth ive played .. the Moog sub 25 is close, but monophonic. So different league. However. I really miss the everything can modulate flexibility of the DSI era gear. .... The envelope is not as responsive as I'd like And where's my Curtis filter?... I'm pretty disappointed in the filter. I'm more of a knob turner than a keyboardist... I think I actually prefer the MophoX4 or Tetra... The interface on the 6 should be amazing. But the knobs are just not that playable.. even the LFO has pretty limited range... I wish someone wanted to trade their rev-2 instead. That said it does sound amazing. The pan control is a nice touch... Maybe it will grow on me.
I'd love to have one, but I'll never spend more than $1500 for a synth. It kills me because I really want the OB sound in my rig, but unless Uli B comes up with a price breakthrough, I'll have to live without it.
I have an 8 voice rev 2 desktop version, I absolutely love it but I kinda wish I had saved a little longer until I could afford the 6. It's very hard to justify spending that much on an instrument for me though.
So many collections phone calls over this haha, honestly I shoulda just saved up, I was just a dumb kid. $1500 is a lot of money, so I get that limit. My limit for buying gear specifically to make videos on this channel is $500, so it’s just each persons toy price tolerance.
@@ortsac101 Partly because I have a rule that if I want to buy something I have to sell something to pay for it, which keeps me frugal and avoids G.A S. But also because electronics are cheap to manufacture and therefore should be reflected in the price. Much as I love Sequential and Moog, I can't afford expensive nameplates.
A lot of comments about the synth being too expensive. It’s called sacrifice and if your not willing to sacrifice why even complain about something you don’t really want.
yeah, i don't understand commenting on videos like this just to complain about the price. i watch videos that have mulit-million dollar cars driving around, but i don't complain that i can't afford them.
I’m dying to add a big analog poly to my arsenal but I can’t decide between the new prophet 6/new oberhiem or something vintage...in the mean time I’ve settled for paraphonic mode in the Pro2 and poly mode in the Analog four
“Gear-chasing”, a great term for it. I say, when you get gear, get good gear. But, if you think that piece of gear you don’t own is gonna do the magic for ya? Maybe, but have you really learned what the gear you have does? And new gear doesn’t stand in for practice. But, hey, sometimes, a new toy can help inspiration. my rc-505 has been a wonderful writing aide. Could I have done it without that box? Maybe. . . but it was so much easier, and more fun, doing it with a 5 track looper instead of sitting at my desk, on the DAW.
The Prophet 6 is a very, very organic sounding synth to my ears, probably because of it's analogue circuitry. I can't see myself ever getting rid of it for this reason.
Haha, well in that case...if I start saying positive things they’ll offer to send me a free Hydrasynth.🤔 Nah, I’ll keep same old weak LFO Prophet 6 I bough years ago. Hehe
@@NoirEtBlancVie I do understand that, I don´t own a P6 but a P08 and P12 (which has 48 LFO´s :)) and I´d only swap them for for a P6 or more likely for a P5 rev4
Noir Et Blanc Vie thanks for this video :) i’d like the same kind of video for the SV1 ( I own a SV1 two ) + an overall video on why you’ve chosen your synths / setup would be cool too ! 😊
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Warmest, darkest, most beautiful sounding synth in production....
Moog grandmother and matriarch?
It’s deliciously somber!
Its one of the better ones, but you might want to check out the Baloran The River, with moog source oscillators, wholy moly it sounds good. Its up there with polys like the Oberheim Matrix 12 and Yamaha Cs-80, soundwise!
It sounds so much way better than the early demos.
@@mikel5163 I own a sub 37, and it does not stand a chance against the Grandmother and Matriarch, the difference is in the oscillators, which are far more comparable to the mini moog model D, in the Matriarch and Granny. As for the peak, its really flimsy and weak sounding. Most virtual analogues sound better then it and the summit.
Oh man, I'm a guitarist and trying to get into synths and stuff so I've been watching a ton of videos lately and that sound at 0:20 is one of the best tones ever. So lush and relaxing yet so full and juicy. Love the video!!
I like 0:41 it’s perfect
YES! Even with the new Prophet-5 and 10. It's gorgeous and simple. Just has such a sweet spot of functionality vs simplicity.
Dave Bellamy , p5 not for me, too expensive , P6 does it all
I’ve had my Prophet 6 for a little over a year now. It’s easily the most expensive gear I’ve owned. It’s an excellent synth, too. The only issue I have with it is the price. It’s a simple synth, with a straightforward interface. A simple price would make it a no brainer, but that price tag makes it impractical. It does sound excellent, but I haven’t made up my mind on whether or not I’m keeping it.
If you aren't, let me know.
only just discovered this channel, love it, excellent stuff!
Currently looking at a P6 module, either that or an OB-6 Module. I deserve both really 😉
R.I.P Dave...the mans legacy left to music is immeasurable!
yeah sad news that Dave passed so soon as he is a legend in the synth world.
@@GuitarsAndSynths always seemed such a humble, lovely chap aswell. Very sad.
THAT was so well put together! Loved the discussion. "Instead of chasing the gear, I just made music". Touche! :)
I have an OB-6, p6, p12. The p6 would be my one desert island synth.
Nice! I fretted over the OB vs the P6 for months. Went with the OB for its character. That said, I can see how the P6 is a more flexible, beautiful sounding instrument.
James Hall yeah the OB-6 is definitely amazing too, unmatched sound
Really? Wow I am torn!
I've been debating P6 or OB6 as my next purchase for a long long time. What is that you like more about the P6?
@@MilesAwayOfficial I like them both a lot, they're just different. The p6 might have a bit more versatility, but the OB-6 has its own really unique sound. I have the OB-6 module and the p6 keyboard, that probably has to do with the p6 being my desert island synth :)
@@shahruzmoshtaelAwesome to hear. I think that the OB-6 would be more for me then since I already have a Summit for versatility. I love characterful synths!
Great video, as usual. Thanks for your work. My request: more of your music! I love the intros, backing music, and snippets. I can only imagine your full stuff must be great.
I have lots of music on the TH-cam audio library, I I’ll make a full release by end of 2020, typically I’ve always been a player or producer on other artists music.
I just want to say, I also would really like to hear a release from you.
The vids of you playing, there’s some awesome tracks I relistened a good few times!
P.s. the prophet 6 is my dream synth, it’s gonna appear in my future, I can’t wait!
Same
Great composition on the intro! I've had my Prophet 6 for about 4 years now and I still use it every day. It's also the most expensive piece of gear I own, but I really wanted to buy something that had zero compromises on the sound. I think it's still in its own class, along with the OB-6.
This video came crazy perfect. I bought a Prophet 6 21 days ago and there are a few days left to give it back. Didn't want to before this video and it didn't change that. :) Thanks!
I bought a P6 in Berlin in 2016. Love that thing endlessly. I've never "played" a synth as much as I do this one... hours plonking away as if it's a Steinway. It's on all my recordings. I've been in California since March, thanks to the pandemic. Couldn't bear being apart from my Prophet 6 so I bought a second one. I have a decent bunch of great and groovy synths, including a Prophet 5. If it came down to using only a single synth, the P6 would be it, no question.
A lovely retrospective, thank you.
Looks like Dave decided not to stick to his 'never again' mantra.
well that was pre behringer...rules have changed now.
Love the discussion of what makes an instrument connect with you, not just a list of tech specs.
Thanks for saying this, I’ve tried extremely hard to push that instruments are about the entire experience NOT just the sound, or feature off a piece of paper. No one can be unbiased when talking about a piece, it’s impossible, it’s based off too many variables. We can’t even trust ourselves to speak objectively, so I keep it subjective 100% of the time.
@@NoirEtBlancVie Was trying to explain to a friend the other day why I might have some music hardware that costs so much and technically can't do any more than I could do for cheap with software. You put it well, it's about instruments and your relationship with them and expression you can achieve with them.
“I did it once, I‘m not doing it again“ (Dave Smith about the P5). Ha ha!
That patch starting at :20sec is incredible. Love the tune too.
When I go to the USA I go synth shopping. When I can finally get there because of Covid I am going to grab this one and a Moog Matriarch.
Treat yourself!
@@Psionetics hahahaah, this comment is classic 🥳
@@tonybucks5709 if I can find it in Colombia, where I live, it is about 1500 to 2000 dollars more expensive.
@@TenThumbsProductions Might as well get a vacation and a few cheeseburgers out of it.
Shoot me a message if you need a friend near Sweetwater, cause that is where you will want to go. Fort Wayne.
I would revisit this question now that the newest firmware includes the vintage knob
I've also had mine for 5 years and it was the impetus for me to setup my studio again after a 10 year hiatus. The things that initially attracted me to the P6 still hold; simplicity, quality. Its quickly and easily useful in my electronic compositions without losing the flow. The quality of the design, sonic character and materials have made it a classic. It just might be my desert-island synth...another octave would have been nice tho.
Absolutely a desert island synth for me, it’s not the fanciest, but then when you break down the feature set its enough and more, plus somehow you can get where you wanna be without a screen, who knew!
Love my prophet 6. It is a beast and sometimes takes a second to tame...but if you just take a moment, smoke a joint, this synth can take you there.
People say the filter is harsh, and it can be...but just don’t open it that much and you’ll be fine. But it can get there if you want it to. It can be whatever u want it to be
Great honest review. I also love the sound of the prophet 6. I'm not a techie and it sometimes seems you have to be one to make electronic music. But it's the making music bit that matters to me.
badass instrument. Thanks for the video. The controls and indicators on the Prophet are my favorite on any synth period.
I couldn’t justify it on top of my Rev2 and Tempest... but the OB6 👀 👌
What a lovely tribute. Very personal and very heartfelt.
Alex Ball thanks Alex! Prophet 6 has never let me down. Still a great buy, even with 4 less LFOs lol
I totally agree, its so immediate when you play and tweak it you always know there is gold just about to come out of the sound! I've been tempted to sell the Pro2 a few times but never the Prophet 6 :D
Pro 3 tho right? ;)
@@ezrashanti I think I prefer having the Pro2... it has some tricks the pro3 doesn't :D
Haha I love it! "Maxed out CC and opened a Guitar Center card" much love man! We've all been there 😆
The P6 is such a workhorse synth. It covers so much ground, def a keeper. It's simplicity oddly makes up for its lack of more modern complexity IMO.
Totally agree, it’s not about the bells and whistles here, it gives you just enough for what you’d practically need. It could go further with the polymod section.
@@NoirEtBlancVie but at this price point, why not get a deckards dream?
Most slept on synth channel.
Great passionate review. appreciated :).
Cool info about the Sequential name, that was a really classy move by Yamaha
Classy move by Roland too
Your video highlights what I love about Dave Smith and all the Sequential instruments: they're all just a little bit different from each other which really allows one to find the right instrument in the lineup. There's a baseline quality and craftsmanship that is the hallmark of all DS instruments, but - unlike some other manufacturers that come to mind - I never feel like they are shooting in the dark or trying to get the feature combination that will sell the most. They recognise they're a niche player in a niche market and deliver exactly what each product is; neither a one-size-fits-all nor a feature cram. For me, that instrument is the Rev2 and I feel exactly as passionate as you express about the ~6. The ~6 is really close! But the Rev2 nails what I needed in an analogue sound designing machine. There are some things that annoy me about the Rev2 - lack of direct patch access (a nice plus in the ~6!), lackluster effects, no inline high-pass filtre - but in the studio I have rack FX and on the stage I don't care! The sound, ultimately, is SO GOOD! I kept thinking, "I should get one of these FPGA synths" or, "what about a digital with analogue modelling?" but the raw sound out of the jacks was the first and last determining factor for me, and I think that's really what all of us DS fans come back to the most. Thanks for a great retrospective.
The sequence you play at the beginning is really beautiful, deeply textured. I love it! Thank you for your thoughts, not that I can afford either but with the prophet 5 out my brain can't decide between which it wants more lmao
Haha, I couldn't afford it either at the time, so I'm with you :)
Thank you for the compliment on the composition, it was originally a piano piece from maybe 6 years or more ago.
Prophet 6 vs Prophet 5...it's an easy choice.
OB6 ;)
[wallet pain intensifies]
Great to see you back man. Still the best video's out there on synths.
Diving headfirst into this channel now. Thanks man for taking the time to make these vids! Own a Prophet Rev2 and love it!
I bought my P6 when it first came out. Never regretted it. So much versatility, the interface is simple yet inspiring, and I still feel like I'm just scratching the surface. Definitely would recommend if you have that hankering for hardware. If not, just get the Arturia soft synths and your productions will be just as well off.
But Dave Smith did it again with the Prophet 5/10 REV 4, a wonderful looking and sounding remake of a classic Just like you (during the time you made this video), I never saw that coming. What great times we live in. This truly is a great time for synthesizers!!!!
I need that take 5 to be under $1000 though
@@NoirEtBlancVie Haha, yeah. It IS quite expensive.
Great video and exactly how I feel about the simple, no menu diving interface. I have an OB6, but they have very similar design philosophies. I always thought I was the guy who liked menu diving and tweaking. But the OB6 changed my mind. It just lets you create and not worry about chasing the sound, cause it always sounds great. Cheers!
100% agree, I was the same. Looking at a synth and then playing it and being like, “huh, what more do I actually need?” That’s how I feel about it. Makes me think all those super deep synths were technical marvels, but not practically real world useful.
@@NoirEtBlancVie Definitely! You can tell that musicians are behind the Sequential stuff. Thanks for the sharing the video.
PROPHET 6 is a masterpiece.
beautiful song bro that was so inspiring, and great video!
Wow, beautiful video. Sounds, cinematics, script, excellent work! Subbed
great video. i really liked that you went into its history and such. subbed.
If you can't afford a Prophet 6 but want THAT sound, check out the DSI Toraiz AS1, which is a one voice Prophet 6, like a Pro-One version of it, the most underrated synth ever!
I got my Prophet 6 in 2015. 8 years later, everything you are saying here still holds up. It is in my opinion irreplicable synth. Unfortunately today it costs $1,400 more than I paid for it. It is simply too expensive for most people.
While I agree on the no menus approach, it really makes me crazy not to have program names. Having to rely on a number to find a favorite program is just absurd imo, so I write down on a text file the program's names.
And no, I don't plan to buy the crappy soundtower software just to be able to see the program's names.
Other than that, it's a superb synth indeed.
I would like to own a P6, though it probably won’t happen. I already have a Prophet Rev2, a Novation Summit, and Juno 106, plus I just bought the Pro 3. That along with my Moog Subsequent 37 and Grandmother, plus all my modular stuff covers pretty much every synth sound I need, though I’d still gladly love one for all the reasons you mentioned. I love immediate synths. Good job, Bud.
@ghost mall Thank you. That is a very good idea. If you were going to buy an analog poly synth for $2500 (give or take), would it be a P6? Curious to know your preference
With the new Vintage knob option in the 1.6.3 Beta firmware update, this brings the P6 tons of sweetspots!!!
Oh man, new features in my good ole Prophet 6....nice! Thanks for the heads up, I’ll check it out!
spot on !
One LFO is kind of a deal breaker for me, but in my limited experiences with the P6 it does what it does beautifully.
Limited experience with the P6 but what about experience with the P9? Ehhhh? Eh?....I’ll see myself out...
@@eraofacidrain lol wow
+1 for the conclusion. I've had and tested out many polysynths. Prophet 6 always wins hands down. The only other polysynth I have is a Blofeld and that's just because it's so radically different and it has 16 part multitimbrality.
That’s a great combination, perfect duo of synths. It’s all about different textures right. I still think the Blofeld is one of the last great classic Waldorfs!
Thanks so much for posting this. Awesome video. However, I am still undecided between a P6 and Rev 2. Very frustrating decision to make.
Same here! What was your choice, if I may ask?
@@francescomarzotto I ended up getting the P6...love it.
Great review. I'd never buy one, but great review - it's always interesting to hear what attracts people to various instruments and I'm glad you still love your Prophet 6 :)
Thinking about pulling the trigger on a P6 to complement the fizzy sounds of my OB-6. Sort of wish Sequential would just announce their new synth already so I can just pull the trigger :D
My first Synth and probably still my favorite! :)
Of course! Five years already? That seems twice as long as it feels. Guys, I remember discussing about there being almost no VCO synths on the market FOR YEARS, and we would argue about whether there would ever even be a VCO poly again. Maybe a couple of really small boutique single oscillator monos? Dave in interviews, several times had said, “Its too expensive today to make a poly VCO.” LIAR!!!
When this was announced, people pretty much lost their shit. I ultimately went the AS-1, OB6, and Rev2 route. Prolly upgrading the AS-1 to a Pro3 soon. This thing sounds amazing though, and now we have several VCO poly on the market.
Shit, it was a big deal when the VCO Minibrute came out. I’ll probably get one of these at some point.
Its not just the sound, but this next gen of DSI/Seq synths really stepped up the UI experience. The OB6 and especially the Rev2 for being so deep/complex, is incredibly easy and enjoyable to program.
I know, I’m an LFO whore as well. I do agree that one LFO is adequate on a poly most of the time. If I’m using more than one its usually tiny amounts of modulation. If I’m making FX, I need lots of LFOs so just use another synth, like the Rev2 or Blofeld.
Another key for DSI/Seq......is Dave’s commitment not only to making great sounding and easy to use synthesizers, but also to embracing the technology afforded to us these days. I mean, he did invent MIDI, so of course the ease of interaction with a DAW, automating those patches that would require me to have three pairs of hands, saving and organizing patches in a digital library, is all really easy on DSI/Seq products. For a hybrid guy like me, this is really important.....and something that doesn’t always just work with other manufacturers.
No it doesn’t sound just like a P5, but its not that far away. Yes, the Rev2 is really damn close. Besides synth nerds like us, nobody can even tell the difference between a VCO/VCF setup and software.
Man love this page 👍🏻
Beautiful machine. In a studio it's just so simple to layer tracks and tweak sounds super fast and it sounds so right, I'm delighted to often use no EQ to mix it in.
Totally agree, it just fits in tracks! I talked to Dave casually and brought up how I really wanted an OB6, he was basically like “The OB knocks your socks off, the P6 just fits.” I agreed 100%
@@NoirEtBlancVie Wow ahaha. When the OB6 got out raved about how nicer it sounded compared the P6. Maybe time will tell the opposite. Real glad to have that one even though the OB6 would have been fine. At the end, if it works good, it's fine.
Im selling my prophet 6... great synth but dont have the time to invest in it as it deserves, great thing is these have pretty decent resale value compared to some out there
its probably the most point and shoot synth you could of had. if you didn't have time for this you probably need better time management skills.
“Never so Prophet 5 again” abs here we are with P5 rev 4 announced. That did not age well 😅.
I might think about getting a P6 instead so I really appreciate your insights. 😊
They reissue prophet 5 reborn
I was saving up for a Juno 60 but definitely gonna get a prophet 6 to pair up with my Mopho x4
I'm planning to buy my first poly synth (I have a Moog GM), the P6 is one of my options, along with the U.D.O. Super 6 and the Rev2 + something else. Can't decide, maybe I'll wait until NAMM 2021 too see what's going on and save more money.
I also own Moog Granny and P6 was my next choice for sure. But just like you I would wait until January for the next NAMM edition because Dave Smith may release new polyphony, may be 8 voices, may be more modulation matrixes, who knows... I remember when I bought Korg Minilogue, they just released Minilogue XD 3 months later and I was so mad :D :D so I guess I should wait for a bit.
Even better now with the newest firmware update. The Slop function can be switched to a Vintage function to bring the Prophet 6 closer to sounding like the Prophet 5 Rev 4.
nice video... dave has the amazing skill to create synths, that you cant stop using them over and over and they never bore you... already have the p08, pro2 and an evolver... i thought maybe i should not buy the whole range of sequential :-))))) but ob6 or p6 is still hot.... i wonder if an UDO will give us a more "rolandish" competitor
that super-6 is gorgeous man.
shout out to the polarity flip between the R+L channels at 3:20
next year you should do a 10 year review. That be dope. Do you still have it tho?
And Dave actually did it again😂The 4th generation prophet 5 is here again hahaha
Dave made me eat my words 😂
Love this synth Supa big sounds yes the VCOs made the difference the high pass with resonance is my spice on this monster. No need for more lfos only two short comings on this beast why the shorty keybed? and why no patch naming ? I keep re writing patches over. Oh and do try the mfb synth pro lovely vintage sounding three VCOs two filters eight voices multitimbral about the size of a volca $1,100
I have always loved Oberheim synths. I had the choice to buy a P6 or an OB6, and went for the P6. This because I was looking for a vintage sound with modern stability, and the P6 sounds more like the P5 than the OB6 sounds like any OB synth. That’s not to say the OB6 is bad; it’s an amazing piece of kit, but I feel it’s a different beast altogether.
The other reason is that the P6 is way more versatile. I feel like if you’re looking for a versatility synth, make it a modern one, whereas I’m happy to go vibe specific with vintage.
Great overview for the 5th birthday of the Prophet-6. Wonder how sales of the P6 will be affected by the P5 rev4.
I want both.
That track on 00:20. Perfection.
It's the only synth that never leaves my studio.
Thank you for this. 🙏
I like your synth man. I generally like analog synth, but I like the one you show. I've never seen prophet 6 but I like sound of it and also its pure analog interface with those red lights and digits etc. Unfortunately I have no way to get such a synth so I'm just watching
Great review 👍🏻
the way you feel about the prophet 6 is the way I feel about the 106. I use it everyday and the sound is priceless along with the stripped back functionality. Im also looking for a juno6/60. Either of those with the 106 I feel like its a match made in heaven.
I agree, I owed a 106 for a while and when I go back and listen to records I used it on it’s just got “THAT” sound.
@@NoirEtBlancVie haha for sure. I’m never ever getting rid of it. Are you tempted in the prophet 5 rev 4?
@@Nunchuckstraberry naaaaah, like, original Prophet or nothing. Go big or go home 😂
106 would probably be the old vintage synth I’d buy again. Hold onto to that one, I regret selling mine that’s for sure…😭
I just traded 2 synths two of my nicest pedals and a drum machine for a prophet 6....
My initial reaction.
The overall tone is so good. Warm and lush. Best overall tone of any synth ive played .. the Moog sub 25 is close, but monophonic. So different league.
However. I really miss the everything can modulate flexibility of the DSI era gear. ....
The envelope is not as responsive as I'd like
And where's my Curtis filter?... I'm pretty disappointed in the filter.
I'm more of a knob turner than a keyboardist... I think I actually prefer the MophoX4 or Tetra... The interface on the 6 should be amazing. But the knobs are just not that playable.. even the LFO has pretty limited range... I wish someone wanted to trade their rev-2 instead.
That said it does sound amazing. The pan control is a nice touch... Maybe it will grow on me.
I like this more than the OB 👀 but ya know, both would be nice ☺️
I'd love to have one, but I'll never spend more than $1500 for a synth. It kills me because I really want the OB sound in my rig, but unless Uli B comes up with a price breakthrough, I'll have to live without it.
I have an 8 voice rev 2 desktop version, I absolutely love it but I kinda wish I had saved a little longer until I could afford the 6. It's very hard to justify spending that much on an instrument for me though.
Why the limit of $1500 ?
So many collections phone calls over this haha, honestly I shoulda just saved up, I was just a dumb kid. $1500 is a lot of money, so I get that limit. My limit for buying gear specifically to make videos on this channel is $500, so it’s just each persons toy price tolerance.
I think my P6 was like $3200 after tax, jebus, like I can’t believe I spent that much on anything at the time.
@@ortsac101 Partly because I have a rule that if I want to buy something I have to sell something to pay for it, which keeps me frugal and avoids G.A S. But also because electronics are cheap to manufacture and therefore should be reflected in the price. Much as I love Sequential and Moog, I can't afford expensive nameplates.
I loved it, just wonder if it bothers you that the keys feel so cheap?
A lot of comments about the synth being too expensive. It’s called sacrifice and if your not willing to sacrifice why even complain about something you don’t really want.
yeah, i don't understand commenting on videos like this just to complain about the price. i watch videos that have mulit-million dollar cars driving around, but i don't complain that i can't afford them.
love that first preset you play! is it a factory sound? or if not, could you share the settings with us?
I’m dying to add a big analog poly to my arsenal but I can’t decide between the new prophet 6/new oberhiem or something vintage...in the mean time I’ve settled for paraphonic mode in the Pro2 and poly mode in the Analog four
“Gear-chasing”, a great term for it. I say, when you get gear, get good gear. But, if you think that piece of gear you don’t own is gonna do the magic for ya?
Maybe, but have you really learned what the gear you have does? And new gear doesn’t stand in for practice.
But, hey, sometimes, a new toy can help inspiration. my rc-505 has been a wonderful writing aide. Could I have done it without that box? Maybe. . . but it was so much easier, and more fun, doing it with a 5 track looper instead of sitting at my desk, on the DAW.
Totally agree, I learned this the hard way 6 years ago. RIP my credit score over this 😂
The Prophet 6 is a very, very organic sounding synth to my ears, probably because of it's analogue circuitry. I can't see myself ever getting rid of it for this reason.
I agree, it’s extremely organic sounding, kinda like it’s not trying too hard. It’s simple too, I absolutely love it!
Great vid bro!
Thanks man!
beautiful video. !
Yes.
p6 can also make a mean bass
Prophet 10 would be my pick for a new Sequential synth but I splurged on the new OB-X8 from Oberheim as I liked that sound better.
Great video.
That new behringer OBxa clone is starting to give me gas
More jamming with old-time light bulbs!
Haha. Love my little Edison style Hue 💡
I would sell my soul for a Jupiter 8, but I don't think I'd sell my P6^^
Hydrasynth doesn't have 5 times the LFOs of the P6 but actually 41 times ;)
Haha, well in that case...if I start saying positive things they’ll offer to send me a free Hydrasynth.🤔
Nah, I’ll keep same old weak LFO Prophet 6 I bough years ago. Hehe
@@NoirEtBlancVie I do understand that, I don´t own a P6 but a P08 and P12 (which has 48 LFO´s :)) and I´d only swap them for for a P6 or more likely for a P5 rev4
Thanks!
yes!
Yo thanks for the video! Was the first patch from their preset bank?
Not exactly, it is a preset, but I edited it.
Noir Et Blanc Vie sounds so lovely
You said "when I actually make music, I use the same 4 pieces and a DAW". I'm assuming 2 of those 4 are the Sub 37 and the P6, what about the rest? :P
Korg SV-1 & DSI Tempest. All which bought I prior to or in 2015.
Noir Et Blanc Vie thanks for this video :) i’d like the same kind of video for the SV1 ( I own a SV1 two ) + an overall video on why you’ve chosen your synths / setup would be cool too ! 😊
I still don’t know how to properly review the SV1. I don’t want to put something out that’s not well done.
Noir Et Blanc Vie 👍
If it has the preset from Prophet 5 that was used to make Breakwaters Release the Beast it was worth every penny!
Wasn’t that used in the production for Michael Jackson’s thriller song?
I appreciate The Prophet 6 but, the Prophet XL and a looper just does it for me.
Prophet XL is a beast! I still wonder how well it’s sold, I still think it needs more attention.
Noir Et Blanc Vie The Prophet X and XL definitely deserve more attention, such an odd blend of DSI simplicity and wild sonic territory.
Ryan Bennett I agree, they’re just such deeps synths...I’d love to show them here, but I promised myself I wouldn’t lol