Id love to see how well this works during a downpour. The channel Gate City Foundation & Drainage actually shows the end result during a rain event. he goes back to the place while it's raining to get video of his work in action. Just a suggestion. Love y'all's vids.
The reality is, this project probably saved the pool from eventual failure. All that water oversaturating the ground, that close to the pool. ALSO Nick's "Full Bubble" 😂
That was really enjoyable to watch! At first I was really impressed how Tom could gently take up sod with the digger, then I remembered…….thats nothing, I have seen him harvest potatoes with the same machine 😂! You are hard working, smart working, people!
This is by far your best video. Your explanations are perfect and sooooo much better without the music! Amazing how the town could allow the neighbor to put in the pool and raise the property.
You'll never be able to pull that electric cord out or any other in that 2" PVC plumbing pipe. When the pump goes bad- it's all got to be dug up again. 3/4" electrical PVC conduit could have had one cord in it; a female cord-cap on the end in the basin for a standard-length-cord pump and float (not special order 50 ft) and the other end go directly into the basement electric panel on a breaker. The panel had to be on the other side of the wall; the electric meter is right there. The pump on that outside GFCI receptacle is not good... poor electrical installation. And the pump float is too high, pump flow to low, pump and catch basin too small. If it really pours, it will still flood.... it won't stay flooded long after the rain stops but during a big rain, it can still flood...
Dan, I spoke to Liberty pump tech support and asked if I could do the chord another way. Like using an extension chord that ran to the basin, but they told me I had to use their 50' piggy back chord. Customer used her own electrician to install the GFI outlet. I like your idea of the female 'chord ' run directly to the panel, but I'm not sure that would pass inspection. I will inquire about that the next time I have an install like this. The pump size was a concession with the town to be able to discharge to their easement. The town engineer's primary concern was erosion. So smaller pump and a larger dissipator pad to pass inspection. Thank you for your opinion. Have a nice day
Meticulous. If any where there is a one word description of your work. All the way down to the upkeep of your equipment. Looking forward to the next project.
The neighbors property is their property. You have to manage your own property. To say they should have to pay for it because they put in a pool, is kinda absurd.
Well the people getting the work done most likely would win a lawsuit if they went that route. When the neighbors put the pool in it was the direct cause of the ponding in their yard. So the only reason they have to get this installed is because of what the neighbors did. I would guess that the 2 households came to an agreement and they are splitting the cost. @user-ln7of9gs4s
@@user-ln7of9gs4s I am going to block the natural flow of water on my property, now your property is flooding, do you have the money to fix it? wait, I don't care because I am having fun in my pool.
Excellent work!! Love how great the team works together and keeps the job site so meticulous both while working and upon job completion. You all clearly do things the right way. Well thought out. Perfect craftsmanship. Keep up the great work! This customer will never have a problem again because of your installation.
Sprinkler installers put down lines no one can locate in easement and everywhere in the yard, excavator is responsible for all the repairs, what a deal.
I recently added a pump to a low spot in my back yard that fills up to around 5 inches or so after heavy rains, partially due to ground water magically helping to fill it until it runs out. So i dug a small hole, leveled or packed in some of the area with what looks like clay from nearby to direct the water to the pump so there isnt any standing water like there used to be, also put a mesh screen around the pump so it wouldnt suck up debris. Plugged the pump into a remote control outlet so i can activate it without having to go outside and without the need for a float switch as the pump didnt have one built in. Got a 5FT hose pointed up into the woods so it looks like a fountain when its on and it works like a charm. (sorry for the long post) It wasnt until heavy rains in March that i learned why/how the area filled up the way it did, and thats after 24 years of living here and clearing up the backyard the past 10-15. Got the pump as it had a crap ton of mosquito larva hangin out in it. In the end it took me about a month or so of pumping a couple of times a day before the ground water stopped filling it up, been nice and dry for the past month, at least until we get a heavy rain again. Actually have 2 or 3 vids under this account if anyone is interested (i recently asked for help regarding it so thats why, not to seek views)
Hi Digital. It sounds like you’re heading in the right direction and getting it under control. I hope you’re able to solve your issues. Enjoy the rest of your weekend
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage Yup yup, remote controlled outlets/adapters definitely come in handy lol. I considered just filling up the area with dirt but i have no idea where to get free or cheap fill so i just settled for a pump. It does the job so cant really complain. Have a nice week :)
In U.K., blocking natural water crossing onto your land, like the pool people did, is illegal and could lead to prosecution. UK law would require the pool installation to also deal with the water once it was on their property but they could still continue to pass the flow on to their neighbour’s land provided that was historically how the water flowed.
Thank you for your insights Hyuklder. This is a tough one, but the town had to approve and give them a CO for this pool. Plus, water is supposed to be contaminated on our property, so I don’t know if the neighbor could complain about this customer’s water going to them. You’re right, I was told recently that we couldn’t put up a berm/raised bed that would stop water coming onto our customer’s property. The engineer said we ‘couldn’t impede the natural flow of water’. There are many sides to this issue.
@tyelandscapinganddrainage Which is ironic becaue it looks exactly what the neighbors did. They built a berm to keep the water from flowing into their yard and pool.
My understanding of the provisions stated by the EPA, one cannot modify the flow of water that will adversely effect the neighboring properties, especially if connected to wetland areas (such as the county wet areas you described in the video). Therefore, in this situation, I would assume the party the made changes to the profile of the land (the pool owners), were requested to provide restitution for this project? Did this happen? What participatory role did the pool owners play in the overall consideration of this project?
Hello Henry, I only delt with the town engineer and the homeowner. I never had any contact with the neighbor. My payments came from the homeowner. The neighbor wasn’t involved in any way as far as I know. Have a good day
u need a higher fence - its so odd using short chain line fence and everybody see everything with no privacy. the reason your yard flooded because your neighbors using your yard as a draining pool. raise the edges and drain your own water out because you're just pumping their water out for them and will need to buy new pump every year. U don’t see it weird to see your neighbor come out checking on you every seconds you in your back yard like in this video.
Great job. In these kind of jobs, I would suggest that you recommend to the clients that they pipe their downspouts into the basin. With the increasing rain that's happening almost everywhere the ground is unable to absorb it all. I'm sure that the majority of the water accumulating in the garden is from the roof after several days of rain, only after that would the surrounding grounds and the neighbouring land be saturated and have no escape. This problem probably didn't exist 10 years ago. Now it's becoming the norm in many areas. My motto is whenever it's possible, get it or pump it away from the property.
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage Thanks for the quick reply. I'm sure that'll help a great deal. As others have said, it would be great to see the system working during a downpour.
Sucks that the neighbor caused this, but doesn't have to pay to fix it. I woulda raised the grade and screw it if the neighbors yard floods that raised their yard. Wouldnt it have been better to put the catch basin, but also keep the dry well functional with the rock so not all the water has to be pumped raising electricity costs
It's a pity their selfish neighbours raised the ground level. I would have channelled the roof water of this property into the water pump drainage system.
Great job, great team you make 👌I love how you show us how it all works. Cheers from the Netherlands where it is finally looking like summer after tons of rainy cold weather.
Shirley, Hello from New Jersey, and thank you for your beautiful comment. We enjoyed completing this project and we're happy you enjoyed watching us work. Thanks again and have a great day
I know he mentioned the pump is below the frost line but the discharge line seems to just be about 6 inches below the ground. How do you keep those lines from freezing? Looks like an awesome set up and well done!
Hi Scott, There is no check valve. There will be no standing water in the line to freeze. Water in the pipe empties back into the basin. I talk about this at 22:34 Thanks and have a good day, Tom
Great system good job. I have a 36” catch basin in my back yard with a similar set up with a 90 gpm pump it has only been needed a couple times in 10 years, but saves my basement when it does come on.
Too bad the water couldn't be collected into a cistern and then used to water the grass through its own pump during the dry season (if you have one). That way you don't waste quite as much municipal drinking water (with chlorine added at approximately 3ppm to kill the grass) to water a lawn.
I wish you guys worked in Rochester, NY. I have the same exact problem, but when my neighbor put in their pool, they covered the drainage culvert. Unfortunately, due to poor record keeping, there's no record of the culvert being installed by the town. I could run the output to the crick in the back of my yard. At least you solved their issue. Nice work.
Why wouldn't you put the sump pit where the dry well was? The water could flow directly into sump, no need for a separate catch basin, and less excavation/labor.
Thank you Nic. The town engineer approved us pumping just beyond the fence as long as there was no erosion on the town’s drainage easement. They would not approve us trenching 3 to 4 feet deep way into the town’s property to run a gravity discharge line. Our install was what the town would allow.
My regional OSSF authority sells LIDAR of our main large City along with all of the surrounding counties it controls for $200 every two years going back to 2018. I do wonder if your area has similar offerings. I haven't ordered the LIDAR access yet but I often do wonder if it would really help companies like yours to create solutions for these flooding issues.
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage 3DEP also has some LIDAR. Publicly available LIDAR should change your life, even though it is not survey quality. ngmdb.usgs has LIDAR on their topoview map from 2018, it's fairly accurate for free info.
Oliver, Hello from very warm New Jersey. Thank you very much for your compliment and comment. We always look forward to hearing from you. Thanks again, Tom
Hi Lucy. This was the fastest way to capture the rain runoff and move it to the city drainage easement. Subsurface water was not the problem, so a French drain was not needed. We used a 20 inch catch basin to capture the water quickly. No matter what system was used to collect the water you would still need a pump to move the water uphill. Have a good day
we don't have that problem in New Zealand because all drains are hooked up to the house roof that goes out to the street then the street flows out fthesea or the rivers
You didn't have the city or utility company come mark the underground lines and pipes first? We had our yard leveled and it was 3-4 times the size of this one. They raised it about 3 ft in the back corner and 6-8 inches near the house so we don't get flood spots. With all that clay, a base of sand and mixed soil would have done wonders for the top soil there.
Mark out was done Glenn. You can see flags at 10:54. The 'electric' line was for the sprinkler system. It's a line that runs from the box to the zone valve. 811 only marks public utilities. They marked water, power, cable and gas. They do not mark private utilities. Especially irrigation components or lines.
Couldn’t a French drain have worked along to the mulch bed all the way down to the easement? Also that float is bound to get hung up at some point. Look into using a Level Guard, it’s a floatless sump pump switch. Nice work.
Still not in agreement about winter cold not freezing in sump pump basin just because it is 4 feet below ground level. Won’t the non insulated exposed sump pump basin cap allow cold transmission into the bottom of the sump pump basin?
I appreciate your concern and I thank you for sharing your thoughts Mike. All I can say is that I've done these like this for years and (knock on wood) I have not had an issue. I've never had one freeze, or be damaged by winter weather conditions. Thanks again and have a good day, Tom
Our freeze line is 36 inches. The pump is 1 foot below the frost line so it doesn’t have to be removed in the winter. The pump can stay in place year round and not need a heater. The water is moving in the inlet and discharge pipes and won’t freeze. The only standing water susceptible to freezing is in the sump basin. That’s why it’s below the frost line. We discuss this at 23:44. Have a good weekend
This is all a good idea but doesnt the pipes and conduit have to be specific depth for freeze and for the electrical doesnt it need to be conduit? I’m not saying this doesnt work but it looks awesome i love this design im just wondering shouldn’t the electric be Much lower in the ground?
Thomas the pipe holding the electrical is the same as conduit (sch 40). There is no code for a private electrical chord like this. We make it low enough so the lawn maintenance company can’t hit it aerating or thatching.
we had a problem like this, just used two lengths of hose and siphoned the water into the basement drain, took about 15 minutes each time to clear piles of water
i wonder if the next door neighbor that installed the inground pool chipped in to pay for this job , since they are the ones causing the standing water on this property after they put the pool in
Bob, she would be back to square one, but she has a whole house generator. You can vaguely see it at 05:36. It would still be worth it if they didn't have the generator. All the power lines around there are underground. They don't loose power that often. Good question though.
No Chris, a pump is needed because we have to discharge uphill. French drains are for subsurface water. You need an open catch basin for the 1200 plus gallons of water on this project.
Our freeze line is 36 inches. The pump is 1 foot below the frost line so it doesn’t have to be removed in the winter. The pump can stay in place year round and not need a heater. The water is moving in inlet and discharge pipes and won’t freeze. The only standing water susceptible to freezing is in the sump basin. That’s why it’s below the frost line. We discuss this at 23:44. Have a good weekend
Nope. Water goes to the catch basin in the dry well first. That dry well holds about 500 gallons. Once the dry well fills to the top it overflows to the sump basin to be pumped away. It takes a good rain to get enough water to make it to the sump pump.
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage I'm sorry IMHO sprinklers should be outlawed, just a horrid waste of precious water. I live in rural NE PA; I have never watered my 2 acres of lawn. Nice job, well done.
the legal costs to force the neighbor to do something are far greater than the cost of diversion... saves the owners basement too.... so its all good and neighbor has a good neighbor in the owner❤
@@SlackerU .... works both ways.... if you lose.... years...stress... strife with neighbors ... loss of potential buyers.... lawyers win... engineers win... surveyors win.... maybe a good outcome or maybe not ... appeals.... retrials ..
@@brojerhwg5206 Not for the minimums. You own every drop of water that lands on your developed-land. & as of 2018 you can purchase LIDAR maps in my surrounding counties that aren't survey quality but they do show what your neighbor might have done. I'm arguing with my health department now where they refuse to enforce 'comprehensive drainage plans' for OSSFs b/c my State has Water-codes that I can pay extra for, NO I am not paying them for not performing & want them to stop approving cesspools.
@@SlackerU enjoy your day.... i have no idea what your saying in reference to what my.original comments were... you can have a nice discussion on your own... be happy...🤷
Why didn't you use the on-site stone from the old dry well area to fill in around the new sump basin? It would channel the water to the basin more effectively and cause less dirt and sand to build up in the sump basin.
Hi Jonathan, The sump basin is not perforated. The only way for water to get to the sump basin is through the catch basin and pipe. That way the dry well is used first. When the dry well fills up the water, that is filtered by the catch basin, flows to the sump basin. I had plenty of soil to back fill the basin and add sod to the dry well. The excess stone wasn’t needed so we hauled it away. If I used the stone as backfill I would have had to haul the excess soil away. Soil was the better choice for backfill.
Hi Greb. I had plenty of soil to back fill the basin and add sod to the dry well. The excess stone wasn’t needed so we hauled it away. If I used the stone as backfill I would have had to haul the excess soil away. Soil was the better choice for backfill.
Regun, The customer's property ends at the fence. Beyond the fence is township property. The town engineer approved us pumping just past the fence as long as there was no erosion on the town’s drainage easement. They would not approve us trenching 3 to 4 feet deep way into the town’s property to run a gravity discharge line. Our install was what the town would allow.
Thank you for your comment Tyler. Our soil stays around 50 deg. at 4 feet year round. The soil is a good insulator and we have a black lid. I've been installing these basins like this for many years. Even without the black metal lid I've never had one freeze. A closed 'tube' like this in the ground is not the same as an open excavated pit. Tom
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage fantastic work. A lot of small details and thought put into the engineering and design of it. When buying a new home I always really look at drainage issues based on past experience :)
Here’s a word of advice always always show the finished product working. That’s the most important part of the whole project is proved to us that it works correctly. Go ahead and film that and stitch this back onto the video. Everyone will like that idea.
Thank you for your insights. The roof water is a significant part of the water problem. Her property is well graded and that roof water gets to the dry well and pump. It would get the faster if it was tied in, but it still goes there. The customer wasn’t interested in tying in the downspouts at this time. Thanks and have a good day.
Thomas, our freeze line is 36 inches. Only the pump is 1 foot below the frost line so it doesn’t have to be removed in the winter. The pump can stay in place year round and not need a heater.
@thomasjcox the water is moving in those pipes and won’t freeze. The only standing water susceptible to freezing is in the sump basin. That’s why it’s below the frost line.
It makes perfect sense. You think we should dig along the fence by hand and disturb the roots of all her trees instead of digging in the lawn with an excavator? Where we can take up the sod and put it back with little to no damage. Have a great day
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage no. What I mean is right down from where the rocks were. There is grassy area there too. Then you could have had the catch basin and pump basin next to each other on the side.
@Jon-e7w I understand what you’re saying but it don’t want to dig closer to the house, sprinkler box and sprinkler lines. We ran into 3 lines out in the lawn. I want to dig out in the lawn where I have more room to work and maneuver, more room to place the excavated soil and less chance of running into sprinkler lines
This was the best solution to get the water off her property and the town engineer signed off on our plan. Regrading would send all that water to the neighbor and probably get her in trouble. It’s uphill in all directions except the neighbor with the pool. No way to run a gravity discharge line to the other side of the house. French drains are for subsurface water not for over 1200 gallons of standing surface water.
The worst video and work I've ever seen. 3 people and 2 standing around doing nothing. All they needed to do was put the pump inside the dry well, with 1-1/2 in line check valve Connected to a 1-1/2 sprinkler line ran under ground with a trench digger and done. This way to much for such a small problem. It's so bad, but I can't stop watching.
Id love to see how well this works during a downpour. The channel Gate City Foundation & Drainage actually shows the end result during a rain event. he goes back to the place while it's raining to get video of his work in action. Just a suggestion. Love y'all's vids.
Thank you
Yes, a great educational channel on drainage (as is this one), as I always enjoy content creators talking to us.
Please show video of it working in the rain! I would love it so much to see all your hard work pay off! @tyelandscapinganddrainage
The reality is, this project probably saved the pool from eventual failure. All that water oversaturating the ground, that close to the pool. ALSO Nick's "Full Bubble" 😂
A win win. Thank you
That was really enjoyable to watch! At first I was really impressed how Tom could gently take up sod with the digger, then I remembered…….thats nothing, I have seen him harvest potatoes with the same machine 😂! You are hard working, smart working, people!
@WhatWeDoChannel thank you very much. Harvesting potatoes with the mini is a lot of fun. thank you for this spectacular comment. You made our day.
Hey looks like mostly clay ( natures concrete) in area which is bad for drainage.
Be nice to see how the installation performs on a rainy day
If the customer sends us any pictures or video we’ll put them up. Thanks and have a great weekend
Fantastic video! Informative, and well edited. Good to see this video getting a lot of views.
Thank you for the spectacular compliment Ron. You’re awesome. Have a great day, Tom
This is by far your best video. Your explanations are perfect and sooooo much better without the music! Amazing how the town could allow the neighbor to put in the pool and raise the property.
Wow, Thank you very much Joe. We appreciate your feedback and encouragement. We are trying to improve. Thanks again
You'll never be able to pull that electric cord out or any other in that 2" PVC plumbing pipe. When the pump goes bad- it's all got to be dug up again. 3/4" electrical PVC conduit could have had one cord in it; a female cord-cap on the end in the basin for a standard-length-cord pump and float (not special order 50 ft) and the other end go directly into the basement electric panel on a breaker. The panel had to be on the other side of the wall; the electric meter is right there. The pump on that outside GFCI receptacle is not good... poor electrical installation.
And the pump float is too high, pump flow to low, pump and catch basin too small. If it really pours, it will still flood.... it won't stay flooded long after the rain stops but during a big rain, it can still flood...
Dan, I spoke to Liberty pump tech support and asked if I could do the chord another way. Like using an extension chord that ran to the basin, but they told me I had to use their 50' piggy back chord. Customer used her own electrician to install the GFI outlet. I like your idea of the female 'chord ' run directly to the panel, but I'm not sure that would pass inspection. I will inquire about that the next time I have an install like this. The pump size was a concession with the town to be able to discharge to their easement. The town engineer's primary concern was erosion. So smaller pump and a larger dissipator pad to pass inspection. Thank you for your opinion. Have a nice day
Meticulous. If any where there is a one word description of your work. All the way down to the upkeep of your equipment. Looking forward to the next project.
Thank you very much Richard. That's one of the nicest compliments we've received. You made our day! Thank you again and have a great weekend
I hope the neighbour is paying for these works, they must have known about the water flow before the pool was put in.
I don’t think so Michael, but I don’t get involved in that. Have a great weekend
The neighbors property is their property. You have to manage your own property. To say they should have to pay for it because they put in a pool, is kinda absurd.
Well the people getting the work done most likely would win a lawsuit if they went that route. When the neighbors put the pool in it was the direct cause of the ponding in their yard. So the only reason they have to get this installed is because of what the neighbors did. I would guess that the 2 households came to an agreement and they are splitting the cost. @user-ln7of9gs4s
@@user-ln7of9gs4s I am going to block the natural flow of water on my property, now your property is flooding, do you have the money to fix it? wait, I don't care because I am having fun in my pool.
@@user-ln7of9gs4stheir pool and berm stopped the natural flow of water.
Excellent work!! Love how great the team works together and keeps the job site so meticulous both while working and upon job completion. You all clearly do things the right way. Well thought out. Perfect craftsmanship. Keep up the great work! This customer will never have a problem again because of your installation.
Thank you very much Stephen. What an awesome compliment. You made our day. Thank you again for taking the time to write such a nice comment.
Sprinkler installers put down lines no one can locate in easement and everywhere in the yard, excavator is responsible for all the repairs, what a deal.
I recently added a pump to a low spot in my back yard that fills up to around 5 inches or so after heavy rains, partially due to ground water magically helping to fill it until it runs out. So i dug a small hole, leveled or packed in some of the area with what looks like clay from nearby to direct the water to the pump so there isnt any standing water like there used to be, also put a mesh screen around the pump so it wouldnt suck up debris. Plugged the pump into a remote control outlet so i can activate it without having to go outside and without the need for a float switch as the pump didnt have one built in. Got a 5FT hose pointed up into the woods so it looks like a fountain when its on and it works like a charm.
(sorry for the long post) It wasnt until heavy rains in March that i learned why/how the area filled up the way it did, and thats after 24 years of living here and clearing up the backyard the past 10-15. Got the pump as it had a crap ton of mosquito larva hangin out in it. In the end it took me about a month or so of pumping a couple of times a day before the ground water stopped filling it up, been nice and dry for the past month, at least until we get a heavy rain again. Actually have 2 or 3 vids under this account if anyone is interested (i recently asked for help regarding it so thats why, not to seek views)
Hi Digital. It sounds like you’re heading in the right direction and getting it under control. I hope you’re able to solve your issues. Enjoy the rest of your weekend
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage Yup yup, remote controlled outlets/adapters definitely come in handy lol. I considered just filling up the area with dirt but i have no idea where to get free or cheap fill so i just settled for a pump. It does the job so cant really complain.
Have a nice week :)
I really enjoyed your reply, as I can learn something I had not thought of to improve my situation, which is similar to yours.
@@Matlockization Nice of you to say, hope you get it figured out.
@@DigitalIP Your welcome.
Another great video. I really like how careful you guys are of the owner's property. Very nice work. 😀
Thank you very much Brian. We appreciate you taking the time to comment. Have a good evening
You guys work smarter not harder! Always so organized! Love the channel
Thank you very much Dave. Have a great weekend
In U.K., blocking natural water crossing onto your land, like the pool people did, is illegal and could lead to prosecution. UK law would require the pool installation to also deal with the water once it was on their property but they could still continue to pass the flow on to their neighbour’s land provided that was historically how the water flowed.
Thank you for your insights Hyuklder. This is a tough one, but the town had to approve and give them a CO for this pool. Plus, water is supposed to be contaminated on our property, so I don’t know if the neighbor could complain about this customer’s water going to them. You’re right, I was told recently that we couldn’t put up a berm/raised bed that would stop water coming onto our customer’s property. The engineer said we ‘couldn’t impede the natural flow of water’. There are many sides to this issue.
@tyelandscapinganddrainage Which is ironic becaue it looks exactly what the neighbors did. They built a berm to keep the water from flowing into their yard and pool.
My understanding of the provisions stated by the EPA, one cannot modify the flow of water that will adversely effect the neighboring properties, especially if connected to wetland areas (such as the county wet areas you described in the video). Therefore, in this situation, I would assume the party the made changes to the profile of the land (the pool owners), were requested to provide restitution for this project? Did this happen? What participatory role did the pool owners play in the overall consideration of this project?
Hello Henry, I only delt with the town engineer and the homeowner. I never had any contact with the neighbor. My payments came from the homeowner. The neighbor wasn’t involved in any way as far as I know. Have a good day
u need a higher fence - its so odd using short chain line fence and everybody see everything with no privacy. the reason your yard flooded because your neighbors using your yard as a draining pool. raise the edges and drain your own water out because you're just pumping their water out for them and will need to buy new pump every year. U don’t see it weird to see your neighbor come out checking on you every seconds you in your back yard like in this video.
Thank you for your insight Derpher
Great job. In these kind of jobs, I would suggest that you recommend to the clients that they pipe their downspouts into the basin. With the increasing rain that's happening almost everywhere the ground is unable to absorb it all. I'm sure that the majority of the water accumulating in the garden is from the roof after several days of rain, only after that would the surrounding grounds and the neighbouring land be saturated and have no escape. This problem probably didn't exist 10 years ago. Now it's becoming the norm in many areas.
My motto is whenever it's possible, get it or pump it away from the property.
Hi Simon, we offered to tie the downspouts in, but the customer just wanted the standing water issue solved. She may do more in the future.
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage Thanks for the quick reply. I'm sure that'll help a great deal. As others have said, it would be great to see the system working during a downpour.
Sucks that the neighbor caused this, but doesn't have to pay to fix it. I woulda raised the grade and screw it if the neighbors yard floods that raised their yard.
Wouldnt it have been better to put the catch basin, but also keep the dry well functional with the rock so not all the water has to be pumped raising electricity costs
Thank you for your insights MM. You might have missed this, but I explain exactly that at 28:14. Have a good day
Excellent work. Very thorough. How much would something like this cost?
Thank you very much Kevin. I’m sorry, we don’t discuss pricing. Thanks again for your kind words and have a great day , Tom
Great job as always. The yard looks much better without the exposed dry well.
Thank you very much Lee. I know the customer is very happy to see that go. Have a great weekend
You should show video after a heavy rain.
You guys do great “clean” work. Amazing how it looks like you were not even there.
Thank you very much Larry. Have a great day
It's a pity their selfish neighbours raised the ground level. I would have channelled the roof water of this property into the water pump drainage system.
We offered to tie in downspouts, but the customer was only interested in solving the standing water issue. She may do more in the future.
Pretty slick way to load that dump truck with those Muck Trucks. I give you guys credit for hustling.
Thank you very much Stanton. Have a great day
Do you have a video while its raining with the system is installed
Hello Tom. We show it working at 36:00. Have a great day
Great job, great team you make 👌I love how you show us how it all works. Cheers from the Netherlands where it is finally looking like summer after tons of rainy cold weather.
Shirley, Hello from New Jersey, and thank you for your beautiful comment. We enjoyed completing this project and we're happy you enjoyed watching us work. Thanks again and have a great day
Nice job. I guess you can always pipe in a gutter and/or additional yard drain in the future if there is still water that sits on the surface.
Absolutely, thanks and have a great weekend
I know he mentioned the pump is below the frost line but the discharge line seems to just be about 6 inches below the ground. How do you keep those lines from freezing? Looks like an awesome set up and well done!
Hi Scott, There is no check valve. There will be no standing water in the line to freeze. Water in the pipe empties back into the basin. I talk about this at 22:34 Thanks and have a good day, Tom
Great system good job. I have a 36” catch basin in my back yard with a similar set up with a 90 gpm pump it has only been needed a couple times in 10 years, but saves my basement when it does come on.
Thank you Mike. It’s better to have and not need it…. It sounds like you have a great system. Thanks again and have a good weekend
Excellent tutorial. No other means of describing it.
Thank you very much Scotty. Have a great day
You all do great work!
Thank you very much
I hope the neighbors are helping with your electric bill.
Amazing Job....
Thank you
Too bad the water couldn't be collected into a cistern and then used to water the grass through its own pump during the dry season (if you have one). That way you don't waste quite as much municipal drinking water (with chlorine added at approximately 3ppm to kill the grass) to water a lawn.
Thank you for your thoughts WJC. Have a good day
Nice real nice.
Thank you Beans. Have a great weekend
Nice job. Next time, add a sump pump check valve to prevent backflow unless that was by design?
Thank you WoW. That is by design to prevent freezing in the discharge line. I explain that at 23:44. Thanks again and have a good day
I wish you guys worked in Rochester, NY. I have the same exact problem, but when my neighbor put in their pool, they covered the drainage culvert. Unfortunately, due to poor record keeping, there's no record of the culvert being installed by the town. I could run the output to the crick in the back of my yard.
At least you solved their issue. Nice work.
Thank you Ron. I wish we could help you up there. Thank you for sharing and have a great day, Tom
Very nice work. Solved a major issue!
Thank you very much Gman. We enjoyed completing this project and we’re happy you enjoyed it too. Thanks again, Tom
Just bring in truck loads of dirt and creat a slope for the water to run out your yard.
Hey nice work You have to love those Kubota’s great machines for backyard projects. The bad drainage due to clay natures concrete.
Thank you Joseph. Have a great day, Tom
Add dirt to flood them go higher and better
Why wouldn't you put the sump pit where the dry well was?
The water could flow directly into sump, no need for a separate catch basin, and less excavation/labor.
Hi Maga. I explain this at 28:14. Thank you for your input
Where do you have room in that house to store that tractor machine thing?
Ya'll have an incredible channel. Thanks for your hard work; Outstanding to watch
John, Thank you very much for your awesome compliment. You made our day. Thanks again, Tom
Nice job, but there looks like there was enough fall for just a drain tile???
Thank you Nic. The town engineer approved us pumping just beyond the fence as long as there was no erosion on the town’s drainage easement. They would not approve us trenching 3 to 4 feet deep way into the town’s property to run a gravity discharge line. Our install was what the town would allow.
My regional OSSF authority sells LIDAR of our main large City along with all of the surrounding counties it controls for $200 every two years going back to 2018. I do wonder if your area has similar offerings. I haven't ordered the LIDAR access yet but I often do wonder if it would really help companies like yours to create solutions for these flooding issues.
I've never heard of this being available around here, and I've never had an engineer reference lidar. I will ask the next engineer I speak to. Thanks
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage 3DEP also has some LIDAR. Publicly available LIDAR should change your life, even though it is not survey quality. ngmdb.usgs has LIDAR on their topoview map from 2018, it's fairly accurate for free info.
What is "Strange" that there's no Law Enforcement putting their Nose into this project.
Building houses on Floodplains is a big No-No.
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This work had to be approved and inspected by the town engineer. I don’t know if it’s a flood plain. Have a good day Derek
Another challenging project - well done! As always, warm greetings from Germany from Oliver.
Oliver, Hello from very warm New Jersey. Thank you very much for your compliment and comment. We always look forward to hearing from you. Thanks again, Tom
Why not put in a French drain. Totally passive. French drain would need to be a big circumference-but completely doable.
Hi Lucy. This was the fastest way to capture the rain runoff and move it to the city drainage easement. Subsurface water was not the problem, so a French drain was not needed. We used a 20 inch catch basin to capture the water quickly. No matter what system was used to collect the water you would still need a pump to move the water uphill. Have a good day
Great Job again Guys. Can't wait to see the next one. Keep up the great work.
Thank you Billy. I hope you like the next one. Thanks again, Tom
we don't have that problem in New Zealand because all drains are hooked up to the house roof that goes out to the street then the street flows out fthesea or the rivers
Thank you for sharing Mike. Have a great day
You didn't have the city or utility company come mark the underground lines and pipes first? We had our yard leveled and it was 3-4 times the size of this one. They raised it about 3 ft in the back corner and 6-8 inches near the house so we don't get flood spots. With all that clay, a base of sand and mixed soil would have done wonders for the top soil there.
Mark out was done Glenn. You can see flags at 10:54. The 'electric' line was for the sprinkler system. It's a line that runs from the box to the zone valve. 811 only marks public utilities. They marked water, power, cable and gas. They do not mark private utilities. Especially irrigation components or lines.
Thank you for sharing!
Thank you Alexei
Couldn’t a French drain have worked along to the mulch bed all the way down to the easement? Also that float is bound to get hung up at some point. Look into using a Level Guard, it’s a floatless sump pump switch. Nice work.
Thank you for the compliment and thank you for the tip on level guard. I’ll check it out, Tom
Still not in agreement about winter cold not freezing in sump pump basin just because it is 4 feet below ground level. Won’t the non insulated exposed sump pump basin cap allow cold transmission into the bottom of the sump pump basin?
I appreciate your concern and I thank you for sharing your thoughts Mike. All I can say is that I've done these like this for years and (knock on wood) I have not had an issue. I've never had one freeze, or be damaged by winter weather conditions. Thanks again and have a good day, Tom
Forgot the add a check valve + backpressure hole in the pipe a few inches above the sump pump discharge pipe.
John I read a the instructions and I called Liberty. No 1/8 inch relief hole needed if there’s no check valve.
The electrical conduit seems a little large. I would have done just 3/4 conduit.
The plug ends would not fit through a smaller pipe. You would have to cut them off to use a 3/4” pipe
This in New Jersey? Worry about freezing? Thanks.
Our freeze line is 36 inches. The pump is 1 foot below the frost line so it doesn’t have to be removed in the winter. The pump can stay in place year round and not need a heater. The water is moving in the inlet and discharge pipes and won’t freeze. The only standing water susceptible to freezing is in the sump basin. That’s why it’s below the frost line. We discuss this at 23:44. Have a good weekend
Great video, what does something like this cost in your area?
Thank you Dylan. I’m sorry, we don’t discuss pricing. Have a great weekend
This is all a good idea but doesnt the pipes and conduit have to be specific depth for freeze and for the electrical doesnt it need to be conduit? I’m not saying this doesnt work but it looks awesome i love this design im just wondering shouldn’t the electric be Much lower in the ground?
Thomas the pipe holding the electrical is the same as conduit (sch 40). There is no code for a private electrical chord like this. We make it low enough so the lawn maintenance company can’t hit it aerating or thatching.
Quality work. Never thought of a tether to let the basin fill up more.
Thank you very much Surebrah. Have a good evening, Tom
we had a problem like this, just used two lengths of hose and siphoned the water into the basement drain, took about 15 minutes each time to clear piles of water
Thank you for your input
I am watching you from Austria. Great videos! 🎉
Hello from New Jersey. Thanks for watching.
i wonder if the next door neighbor that installed the inground pool chipped in to pay for this job , since they are the ones causing the standing water on this property after they put the pool in
My payments came from the homeowner. The neighbor wasn’t involved in any way as far as I know. Have a good day
What happens in a storm and the electric goes out? She’s back to square 1
Bob, she would be back to square one, but she has a whole house generator. You can vaguely see it at 05:36. It would still be worth it if they didn't have the generator. All the power lines around there are underground. They don't loose power that often. Good question though.
Thank you. Great video. Keep up the great work.
Thank you very much Jim. We’re happy you enjoyed it.
Another great job! Enjoyed watching!
Thank you very much Jim. Happy Fourth
Nice work as usual, Tye Landscaping!
Thank you very much Lee. Have a great weekend
Superb, neat job. Impressive
Thank you very much Top. Have a good day
Would a French drain not have done the same thing and for a lot less dollars.
No Chris, a pump is needed because we have to discharge uphill. French drains are for subsurface water. You need an open catch basin for the 1200 plus gallons of water on this project.
Another great video , thanks for sharing
Thank you very Rick. Have a great weekend
hell yeah dump that water to someone else's land let them deal with it lol
That’s the town’s drainage easement. That’s want that land is for.
You guys are the bomb!!!!!
Thank you Mr Mark. Have a great day
Great job guys.
Thank you very much. Have a good day
You guys are awesome
Thank you very much. Have a good day
What happens in the winter months ?
Our freeze line is 36 inches. The pump is 1 foot below the frost line so it doesn’t have to be removed in the winter. The pump can stay in place year round and not need a heater. The water is moving in inlet and discharge pipes and won’t freeze. The only standing water susceptible to freezing is in the sump basin. That’s why it’s below the frost line. We discuss this at 23:44. Have a good weekend
So, when the homeowner over waters the lawn with the "sprinklers" your sump pump will move all of the wasted well water into the back swale?!
Nope. Water goes to the catch basin in the dry well first. That dry well holds about 500 gallons. Once the dry well fills to the top it overflows to the sump basin to be pumped away. It takes a good rain to get enough water to make it to the sump pump.
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage I'm sorry IMHO sprinklers should be outlawed, just a horrid waste of precious water.
I live in rural NE PA; I have never watered my 2 acres of lawn.
Nice job, well done.
I understand completely. Thank you for your compliments and have a great day, Tom
Beautiful. 👍👍👍
Thank you David. We appreciate it. Have a great weekend
check valve i dont see one
Nope, no check valve. We talk about that at 23:44
Awesome job!
Thank you very much Bob. Have a great weekend
If the dump pump stopped the flooding why is it still flooding?
I'm sorry, I don't understand your question McD
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage the sump doesn’t stop the flooding it mediates it , 🤔 it’s all in the details lol
Thank you
the legal costs to force the neighbor to do something are far greater than the cost of diversion... saves the owners basement too.... so its all good and neighbor has a good neighbor in the owner❤
Very good point Brojer. Thank you for sharing and have a good day
In my State the Water-Code gives you both Engineering & Attorney fees if you win.
@@SlackerU .... works both ways.... if you lose.... years...stress... strife with neighbors ... loss of potential buyers.... lawyers win... engineers win... surveyors win.... maybe a good outcome or maybe not ... appeals.... retrials ..
@@brojerhwg5206 Not for the minimums. You own every drop of water that lands on your developed-land. & as of 2018 you can purchase LIDAR maps in my surrounding counties that aren't survey quality but they do show what your neighbor might have done. I'm arguing with my health department now where they refuse to enforce 'comprehensive drainage plans' for OSSFs b/c my State has Water-codes that I can pay extra for, NO I am not paying them for not performing & want them to stop approving cesspools.
@@SlackerU enjoy your day.... i have no idea what your saying in reference to what my.original comments were... you can have a nice discussion on your own... be happy...🤷
Why didn't you use the on-site stone from the old dry well area to fill in around the new sump basin? It would channel the water to the basin more effectively and cause less dirt and sand to build up in the sump basin.
Hi Jonathan, The sump basin is not perforated. The only way for water to get to the sump basin is through the catch basin and pipe. That way the dry well is used first. When the dry well fills up the water, that is filtered by the catch basin, flows to the sump basin. I had plenty of soil to back fill the basin and add sod to the dry well. The excess stone wasn’t needed so we hauled it away. If I used the stone as backfill I would have had to haul the excess soil away. Soil was the better choice for backfill.
Do you not have an 811 or other service to mark pipes in the yard? Would seem like something that should be done before a project like this.
Mark out was done. You can see a flag at 10:54. 811 doesn’t mark irrigation lines.
Question.... Why didn't you reuse the stone as fill for the basin?
Hi Greb. I had plenty of soil to back fill the basin and add sod to the dry well. The excess stone wasn’t needed so we hauled it away. If I used the stone as backfill I would have had to haul the excess soil away. Soil was the better choice for backfill.
Getting water down and then pumping it up to let it flow downward.. I think this could be done without pump
Sorry, it’s uphill in all directions except towards the neighbor with the pool. Water doesn’t flow uphill around here
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage that means u have to dig deeper
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Regun, The customer's property ends at the fence. Beyond the fence is township property. The town engineer approved us pumping just past the fence as long as there was no erosion on the town’s drainage easement. They would not approve us trenching 3 to 4 feet deep way into the town’s property to run a gravity discharge line. Our install was what the town would allow.
Looks all down hill to the drain outlet to me, why the sump pump? am I not seeing an elevation here?
Gabriel, it’s uphill in all directions except towards the neighbor with the pool.
Is the cover and basin insulated? Otherwise I'm confused how it won't freeze since the ground above the pump has all been excavated.
Thank you for your comment Tyler. Our soil stays around 50 deg. at 4 feet year round. The soil is a good insulator and we have a black lid. I've been installing these basins like this for many years. Even without the black metal lid I've never had one freeze. A closed 'tube' like this in the ground is not the same as an open excavated pit. Tom
I don't understand it either, but my neighbor has an outside pump 42" deep just like this and he said it never froze.
Thank you for your input Joe. Have a nice weekend
Wonder if they called dig alert.
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@@tyelandscapinganddrainage fantastic work. A lot of small details and thought put into the engineering and design of it. When buying a new home I always really look at drainage issues based on past experience :)
Very smart MTB. Thank you very much
Was this EB? Looks familiar
Hi Mookie, I hope you’re staying cool through all this heat. It does look like EB, but this is Monmouth Co. thanks and enjoy the rest of your weekend
Here’s a word of advice always always show the finished product working. That’s the most important part of the whole project is proved to us that it works correctly. Go ahead and film that and stitch this back onto the video. Everyone will like that idea.
Thank you, but you can see it work at 36:00.
Was there a reason why you didn't capture that downspout next to the sump pump outlet? Maybe pump it directly into the dry well?
Hi Jonathan, we offered to tie that in, but the customer just wanted the standing water issue solved. She may do more in the future.
Great point, the roof water might be a major contributor to the flooding problem.
Thank you for your insights. The roof water is a significant part of the water problem. Her property is well graded and that roof water gets to the dry well and pump. It would get the faster if it was tied in, but it still goes there. The customer wasn’t interested in tying in the downspouts at this time. Thanks and have a good day.
Is all of this below the freeze line?
Thomas, our freeze line is 36 inches. Only the pump is 1 foot below the frost line so it doesn’t have to be removed in the winter. The pump can stay in place year round and not need a heater.
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage i get that but what about the entire pipe that goes through the yard?
@thomasjcox the water is moving in those pipes and won’t freeze. The only standing water susceptible to freezing is in the sump basin. That’s why it’s below the frost line.
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage oh ok makes sense if it’s flowing often enough it won’t have time to freeze
We discuss this at 23:44. Have a good weekend
If you're going to use a Catch Basin & a water-tight sump then you shouldn't have installed the sump int he middle of the lawn.
This was the perfect location. Right in the middle of the action. Easy to tie in the 3 pipes.
Yeah, I don't know why they didn't put it on the side next to the fence. Makes no sense
It makes perfect sense. You think we should dig along the fence by hand and disturb the roots of all her trees instead of digging in the lawn with an excavator? Where we can take up the sod and put it back with little to no damage. Have a great day
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage no. What I mean is right down from where the rocks were. There is grassy area there too. Then you could have had the catch basin and pump basin next to each other on the side.
@Jon-e7w I understand what you’re saying but it don’t want to dig closer to the house, sprinkler box and sprinkler lines. We ran into 3 lines out in the lawn. I want to dig out in the lawn where I have more room to work and maneuver, more room to place the excavated soil and less chance of running into sprinkler lines
Why didn't she just regrade her lot or put a french drain on the other side of the lot?
This was the best solution to get the water off her property and the town engineer signed off on our plan. Regrading would send all that water to the neighbor and probably get her in trouble. It’s uphill in all directions except the neighbor with the pool. No way to run a gravity discharge line to the other side of the house. French drains are for subsurface water not for over 1200 gallons of standing surface water.
@@tyelandscapinganddrainage That explains everything 🙂.
Amazing videos love to watch them I’m local in Marlboro love to see local family businesses on TH-cam
Thank you very much neighbor. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, Tom
No check valve coming out of pump and using DWV fittings instead of pressure. Beats all I’ve ever seen
The worst video and work I've ever seen. 3 people and 2 standing around doing nothing. All they needed to do was put the pump inside the dry well, with 1-1/2 in line check valve Connected to a 1-1/2 sprinkler line ran under ground with a trench digger and done. This way to much for such a small problem. It's so bad, but I can't stop watching.
Did you get the full bubble from Gate City Foundation Drainage?
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@mrollivetti hello Oliver. Have a nice weekend
They should have ran the pipe and drainage along the fence edge by the tree's a lot easier and does not ruin your lawn at all.