I have one of these, and there's a tapering concertina-like front chassis rail either side at the front behind the bumper. Amazing looking thing. You can see it working at 2.19. Here's hoping I never have to test it.
You can clearly see the safety concept of the T3 and it's derivatives: Let's make them as hard as tanks and just use the crumple-zones of the other car(s) involved in the crash. But I guess they seriously overstretched this "technique", at least by today's standards. Cars of this period were often too stable to be safe for the passengers. The engineers mainly judged a car's safety by how it looked during and after a crash and not by the actual forces applied to the passengers.
@philacoudre the green truck is a vw caddy pick up, the others are T3 and the bigger one is called LT31. A higer an hewyier truck than the T3, thats why it misses the crumplezone on the montecarlo and smashes the weker part of the body.
True. For its time the VW Bus offered excellent protection. The german magazine "ADAC Motorwelt" tested it in 1984 against some of its competitors of that era (40 % offset crash @ 37 km/h). Only in the VW bus the security cage remained intact (and so the drivers legs...).
it's not really lying, they are simply showing that you're way more likely to survive with seatbelts. they never said that seatbelts save lives every time, just that they help a ton in many situations
Part one says that the vans have been sold for 37 years. The vans were introduced March 8, 1950, so the video is probably from around 1987. And it doesn't seem very old for 1987.
my dad had an LT28 like the 1 rolled in video and these things were built like tanks,i remember my uncle who was a sheet metal worker repairing the body work and he commented on how thick the metal was on it great old vans
lol the idea of a car crushing up when it wrecks is actually a shock absorber and reduces injury, wish they'd tell the g-force the passengers could expect in a 50kph instant stop
once wrecked my vanagon going over 100 miles an hour, smashed right into a coffee shop. no one was injured thanksfully, and the waitress even brought my coffee to the door while we waited for the police to take me into custody.
Some people say, that the T3 in that other Video is fully loaded with 1 ton extra weight and that its a 100km/h full fronal crash, which are no normal conditions for a cras test. I really don't wanna know how my T* looks if I perform a full frontal hit with 100km/h and 1ton load.... but I wouldn't try that with any other car....
I would think that even if the occupants of the American car, in this case, a Buick Regal, *were* wearing safety belts, the effects from the 70 kph would be quite severe. Watching the video of the result of the crash, you can see that the rear of the Regal penetrated well into the passenger cabin, the front seats reclined *violently* backwards, and the occupants of that seat came within inches of having their head crushed from the deforming car. If that's what American car makers call safety, they really need to re-examine safety.
I can tell you from personal experience that you don't need anywhere near this level of violent collisions to cause your lava lamp to have a catastrophic event when you forget and leave it on the countertop when driving......
Its only the half truth: The LT is much higher than the buick and hits its soft structures (empty trunk). This clearly shows what is described as the "incompatibility problem".
"the 80's", well... The T3 was introduced in 1979. Bet the tests (not the testicles but the crash tests, mind you) was finished by then. This video ought to be from 1978 or no later than 1979.
and why 20 or 30 years ago it was safe and nowadays "its a death trap on four wheels"? An impact at 50kph against a wall in the 80's will be identical in 2009
Probably very little. This was the time of reinforcing vehicles so they did well in head on collisions like this. The real test would be an offset test where only one side of the vehicle is hitting the object.
maybe vw comercial but the t3 is on of the safety cars, the music sounds like tangerine dream on pitchy drugs! I realy love the VW T3 Westfalia, next year i will buy on as a Eierlegendewollmilchsau!
Look what happened to the back of the buick compared to the Vanagon! I bet theres cars sold today that are shockingly not as good as this...and to be honest, this doesnt look -that- bad
At 2:35 they call a Buick Regal a "limousine" that's funny. A Buick Regal which looks like a 1983 isn't a limousine buy a long shot. I sure wouldn't like to be hit by a VW T3 even in my 2000 Jetta.
But when you are sitting that close to the front of the car it's either, 1: the car is hard as a rock and you get whiplash, or 2: you sit in the crumple zone and loose your legs. i think i'm gonna go with #1
You are right iam sorry. Maybe becourse of in years that pass on the vw bus lacks the deformation zones like rust. Ive never liked the VW cars buses and trucks that could be the reason.
All admit that these vehicles may look quite strong going buy this video but that was when they were new if I was to drive one now ide be scared shitless as I would not like to drive one that had rust on it as its going to be as strong as cheese then
the american car's back melted under the VW LT lol and the LT was operatable rofl
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how told you that? its not crap becourse its old. The bus is kinda cool and popular to surfers. my boyfirend had one for a long period of time. Now he owns a chevy astro bus but the VW bus looks nicer the astro is big wide and looks like a transporter on seriods not easy to park ider. But a VW bus is all in one
Think that's the standardized test procedure. 50km/h against the wall.... sure it's a VW video to let us believe how sure their cars are. Better not trying it out....
seems to me theres a crash test video of a chinese truck that looked almost exactly like the flatbed version of this model... and the cab completely dissapears.... leave making German cars to the Germans..
LOL look at the dummies at 0:33. Also, for the rollover, we can't see the dummies. 2:17 is another weird one. Hard to rate that. Can't see dummies at 2:45 to 2:50. You can see them leaning weirdly at 3:17. 3:38 Dummy's head hits steering wheel. Look at the passenger seats at 3:54. Person might die at 4:42, and if not there, at 4:46. 5:33 What the heck? That is a very, VERY long name.
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the music definitely works for this video! Kinda like an 80's horror movie vibe or something
Damn that roll over part is crazy!
Last time I saw this video was like 5 years ago glad I found it again
cool video and scary oldy music
@JENSDONT The videos are from 1987; crash tests probably done 1979-1986
August 10, 2011 12:41 am
I have one of these, and there's a tapering concertina-like front chassis rail either side at the front behind the bumper. Amazing looking thing. You can see it working at 2.19. Here's hoping I never have to test it.
I'd hate to think what would've happened if the occupants weren't wearing safety belts and the Vanagon was rolled over in tests like this.
You can clearly see the safety concept of the T3 and it's derivatives: Let's make them as hard as tanks and just use the crumple-zones of the other car(s) involved in the crash.
But I guess they seriously overstretched this "technique", at least by today's standards. Cars of this period were often too stable to be safe for the passengers. The engineers mainly judged a car's safety by how it looked during and after a crash and not by the actual forces applied to the passengers.
@philacoudre the green truck is a vw caddy pick up, the others are T3 and the bigger one is called LT31.
A higer an hewyier truck than the T3, thats why it misses the crumplezone on the montecarlo and smashes the weker part of the body.
True. For its time the VW Bus offered excellent protection. The german magazine "ADAC Motorwelt" tested it in 1984 against some of its competitors of that era (40 % offset crash @ 37 km/h). Only in the VW bus the security cage remained intact (and so the drivers legs...).
ah, ok, I was thinking you were saying something like: "it's old, so it's ugly and not cool at all, THEN it's a trap" :-)
greetings from Rome :-)
it's not really lying, they are simply showing that you're way more likely to survive with seatbelts. they never said that seatbelts save lives every time, just that they help a ton in many situations
Part one says that the vans have been sold for 37 years. The vans were introduced March 8, 1950, so the video is probably from around 1987. And it doesn't seem very old for 1987.
my dad had an LT28 like the 1 rolled in video and these things were built like tanks,i remember my uncle who was a sheet metal worker repairing the body work and he commented on how thick the metal was on it
great old vans
I love this music!
lol the idea of a car crushing up when it wrecks is actually a shock absorber and reduces injury, wish they'd tell the g-force the passengers could expect in a 50kph instant stop
Why is there a video out there showing a T3 crumpling into a wall as compared to this one?
So what are you saying?
Is it better that the vehicle absorb the force of the crash through crumpling?
G00G00L, from which year is the footage? Looks like early 80s (T3 was introduced in 1979 I think?)
rofl at the music...
anyway, that bus seems pretty safe, even by todays standard..
@bulldog31960 The interior was not damaged very much by the crash.
once wrecked my vanagon going over 100 miles an hour, smashed right into a coffee shop. no one was injured thanksfully, and the waitress even brought my coffee to the door while we waited for the police to take me into custody.
heydr33 what?
That's hilarious. I guess a Skyhawk would be a "full size" in Europe then!?
if you dont know you're crashing (in the event that you're distracted before impact occurs) when do you break?
Some people say, that the T3 in that other Video is fully loaded with 1 ton extra weight and that its a 100km/h full fronal crash, which are no normal conditions for a cras test.
I really don't wanna know how my T* looks if I perform a full frontal hit with 100km/h and 1ton load.... but I wouldn't try that with any other car....
The Smart car uses the same element as the VW to "borrow" the other car's crumple zone right?
That VW is almost indestructible....
That crash is at 100 kph with tons of weight in the cargo. It's a test of the facility as opposed to the vehicle.
I would think that even if the occupants of the American car, in this case, a Buick Regal, *were* wearing safety belts, the effects from the 70 kph would be quite severe. Watching the video of the result of the crash, you can see that the rear of the Regal penetrated well into the passenger cabin, the front seats reclined *violently* backwards, and the occupants of that seat came within inches of having their head crushed from the deforming car. If that's what American car makers call safety, they really need to re-examine safety.
I can tell you from personal experience that you don't need anywhere near this level of violent collisions to cause your lava lamp to have a catastrophic event when you forget and leave it on the countertop when driving......
Happy birthday video!
Dont test, just giwe me t3 !!!!
@irocz0r Its because the T3 in the video has got 1t of cargo at the back ;)
esta muy bien documentado pero me causa dolor de ver esta destrucion de kombi
Rectangular? I didn't notice that.
@corvetteboy10 ...really? What I was saiyng Is that the speed is not true. Do you believe that the 2nd crash happens at 70 kph?
The car showed from 2:13 to 4:55 is not VW T3. It's VW LT.
Its only the half truth: The LT is much higher than the buick and hits its soft structures (empty trunk). This clearly shows what is described as the "incompatibility problem".
Did they seriously do the crash test at 3:46 in a greenhouse?
i love this crazy music :D it's very..different!
its like watching a really bad horror movie.
The music reminds me of an old Horror movie lol.
Intrusion of the interior was negligible? What the hell does that even mean?
@YS3Caero Second crash clearly says "50 km/h"
"the 80's", well... The T3 was introduced in 1979. Bet the tests (not the testicles but the crash tests, mind you) was finished by then. This video ought to be from 1978 or no later than 1979.
A high degree of safety........................................lol
@wowt Awesome instrumental composers (:
OMG, how old are these vids?? XD
we've got an 81' vw vanagon with a 2.0l air cooled boxer with 70hp...the bus ever won in bad accident with other cars...:P
and why 20 or 30 years ago it was safe and nowadays "its a death trap on four wheels"?
An impact at 50kph against a wall in the 80's will be identical in 2009
So what happens if you crash the T3 at 70kph into a solid object, rather then one that will move and deform?
Probably very little. This was the time of reinforcing vehicles so they did well in head on collisions like this. The real test would be an offset test where only one side of the vehicle is hitting the object.
@@4jp Oh yeah I would worry about that, cars into the mid-2000's were still flunking that test.
maybe vw comercial but the t3 is on of the safety cars,
the music sounds like tangerine dream on pitchy drugs!
I realy love the VW T3 Westfalia, next year i will buy on as a Eierlegendewollmilchsau!
0:32 Human Centipede
Well... these were the Times, when a car with low deformation was "good" :)
Look what happened to the back of the buick compared to the Vanagon!
I bet theres cars sold today that are shockingly not as good as this...and to be honest, this doesnt look -that- bad
0:47 - It's snowing during a crash test! :)
At 2:35 they call a Buick Regal a "limousine" that's funny. A Buick Regal which looks like a 1983 isn't a limousine buy a long shot. I sure wouldn't like to be hit by a VW T3 even in my 2000 Jetta.
those cars are far beyond repair
no, that's 31 mph. and the 31 mph crash is not fatal unless you are unbelted.
So you don't attempt to slow down when you're going to hit something? Please explain your own rationale. I think you're just trolling.
@G00G00L Seems pretty real-world to me. Real-world crashes are NEVER anywhere near what they are in testing facilities.
indestructible !
What's the car at 3:00 ?
4:35 sounds like Terminator 2.
But when you are sitting that close to the front of the car it's either,
1: the car is hard as a rock and you get whiplash,
or 2: you sit in the crumple zone and loose your legs.
i think i'm gonna go with #1
0:44 NOOOOOOOOO poor K70 :(
VW T3 / LT rules !!!!!!!!
Its so 80s
You are right iam sorry.
Maybe becourse of in years that pass on the vw bus lacks the deformation zones like rust.
Ive never liked the VW cars buses and trucks that could be the reason.
lucky guy! Its my dream-car
@jeepers2655 it's the one they called a Limo, right?
>------ as they are supposed to.
that's why European cars had "crumple zones" before we ever did.
@whattheheck1000 OK, thanks for the information :^)
maybe then but now its a death trap on fuor wheels.
who the hell comes up with music like this?
damn,this music is scary.
@wowt The 80's man... the 80's :D
What's with the 1980's porno music? :-D
05:32 Fahrzeugausführung-thats a long word!
ow no a k70....
All admit that these vehicles may look quite strong going buy this video but that was when they were new if I was to drive one now ide be scared shitless as I would not like to drive one that had rust on it as its going to be as strong as cheese then
Did anyone else feel they were being brainwashed by that music?
Educative videos, but the music is fuckin psychedelic :@
cornflakes002 - only if its a rotten one...
check out volvos, the strongest car you could in the 80's and 90's get put against a new car...
the american car's back melted under the VW LT lol
and the LT was operatable rofl
how told you that? its not crap becourse its old. The bus is kinda cool and popular to surfers. my boyfirend had one for a long period of time. Now he owns a chevy astro bus but the VW bus looks nicer the astro is big wide and looks like a transporter on seriods not easy to park ider. But a VW bus is all in one
Здесь больше про lt показывают а не t3
Think that's the standardized test procedure. 50km/h against the wall.... sure it's a VW video to let us believe how sure their cars are.
Better not trying it out....
could do thiss all day long
hahahh....me too it's terrifing!!! wht kind of choice...
seems to me theres a crash test video of a chinese truck that looked almost exactly like the flatbed version of this model... and the cab completely dissapears.... leave making German cars to the Germans..
One was not t3 it was lt
@JENSDONT
1987
2:10 ou well lets go on nothing happened . this buses are like tanks. :)
@wowt gary numan
LOL look at the dummies at 0:33.
Also, for the rollover, we can't see the dummies.
2:17 is another weird one. Hard to rate that.
Can't see dummies at 2:45 to 2:50.
You can see them leaning weirdly at 3:17.
3:38 Dummy's head hits steering wheel.
Look at the passenger seats at 3:54.
Person might die at 4:42, and if not there, at 4:46.
5:33 What the heck? That is a very, VERY long name.
@wowt he must've been smoking some F&*$ed up s#*& :))
lol how is 1:24 a real life situation.
0:11 Headbang xD
Dummies: "Now! LETS DIVE" :)