We Were Soldiers Deleted Scene - Guess That Settles It (2002) - Mel Gibson War Movie HD
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We Were Soldiers Deleted Scene - Guess That Settles It (2002) - Mel Gibson War Movie HD
The story of the first major battle of the American phase of the Vietnam War and the soldiers on both sides that fought it.
Never in my life met more insane people then the chopper pilots and crews over there, but many a grunt made it home because of them. Real heroes
Thank God for them...This old man gets tears in his eyes when he goes to an airshow and hears the "wop wop" of a Huey. It meant water, and ammo, and getting our wounded to safety. I sat on the LZ in Monroe, NC, listening to the sound that brought us comfort. Thank you.
All of our brothers and sisters in arms are heroes but I would agree those chopper pilots were a special bread
Lourie Salley it pains me that the Marine Corps turned my beloved and at the same time hated "Battle Pig" (Huey) and Snakes (Cobras) into four bladed birds. No longer have the wop wop sound of the air being beaten into submission.
Read the book "Chicken Hawk",,,,,awesome.
That's because helo pilots will go where fixed wingers fear to tread.
My grandfather was responsible for 23 downed MiGs in Vietnam.
He holds the record as the worst mechanic the North Vietnamese Air Force ever had.
You have no idea how long I laughed at this comment.
Don’t worry, American pilots must have loved your grandfather!
LMAO!!!
I hear ya man
I'm still trying to figure out if one might counted as a kill or not. Supposedly a mig pilot ejected upon seeing an F-8 come in behind him.
If so, the F-8 is directly responsible for the lost mig, but he didn't even fire at it.
You watch one Band of Brothers clip and suddenly every war movie ever made is in your recommended.
it's a loss of youtube virginity, sort of
When you have to stop hitting not interested in a video and block the whole channel itself because youtube is terrible and will recommend it anyway over and over and over again.
I feel ya man. I popped my cherry watching a reaction video. Took months to get rid of them. They still appear sometimes way down the rabbit hole.
As it should be
Not me
I remember Mel Gibson's quote from earlier in the movie, "And if the choppers stop coming, we all get slaughtered." Crandall, Freeman and the rest of the pilots, took that to heart. They performed admirably in that battle. Of 31 helicopter loads of ammunition and supplies brought into the LZ after it was closed, Crandall's helicopter flight brought in 28. And of the approximately 78 wounded in action who were evacuated, Crandall's flight took out 70.
You've got to go to the Wikipedia page for Ed "Too Tall" Freeman. The man was a BEAST. Surviving the Battle of Pork Chop Hill (one of only a few in his unit to make it) he received a battlefield commission. Then denied flight training at first because he was "Too Tall". Medal of Honor recipient for this battle. A hero in my book and then some.
@JohnnyGotHisGun Not only Korea but 2 years in the navy during WWII as well.
I just finished reading his bio. I hundred percent agree and thank you for the recommendation.
@Steve Campbell Aviation wasn't it's own branch in the Army until 1985. Before then Engineer officers made up the pilots, since helicopters were used for mapping and topographic studies. Which is why every pilot in this scene is wearing an Engineer Castle.
@@seandlax9 I noticed that thanks for the info
Thanks. I hadn't heard of him.
They were both awarded the Medal of Honor for their actions during that battle.
+mgbushido So were several of the troops.
hope so since they did what they could getting in and out of there
If I'm not mistaken, I believe Bruce Crandall was to receive the Medal of Honor but refused to accept it unless his wingman, Ed Freeman received it as well. So both pilots received the Medal.
falcon3268 you know why they were awarded medal of honirs right? Cause the chicken shit medic chopper recorded in book we were soldier once and young by howard g moore and joseph galloway, never landed at those lzs when it was hot. So To Tall and Snake shit were only choppe pilots to come in and come out when 7th air cav needed them. Hed fly in and out through whole entire day risking his l life for these brave men and night while under fire. Of course he deserves a medal of honor the fing mofo did 3 different jo s at same time medivac, air support, and uhaul.
TEXAStooTAL L you are correct
I was only a little kid when the Vietnam war ended but it's always bothered the hell out of me how Vietnam veterans were and, to a degree, still are treated like crap.
I for one appreciate them and ALL veterans and I can't even begin to express my gratitude to them.
As they should be. They completely destroyed Vietnam
Thank you so much. I was there from 1966 to 1967 and 1968 to 1969
I honestly believe the reason why us GWOT vets are treated so well was partially because of guilt from the way the Vietnam vets were treated. Many in the Vietnam war didn’t have a choice, they were drafted. From this 2x OEF vet to you, thank you for your service and sacrifice.
An over 500,000 died earlier than they should of due to agent orange. About 9 x the combat deaths.
That war was brutal for the US, losing over 10,000 helicopters, fast jets and transport aircraft. Something many overlook.
China even "admitted" the last decade to having between 300/350,000 of their own regular forces there fighting against the US forces.
China is and always is the longterm enemy.
@@glennriviere7807 aren't you ashamed of what you people done?
I met Crandall at Fort Hood when I was stationed there he autographed one of my 1st Cav patches
He seems like an great guy and soldier, what was your opinion?
Robert Donahue yes he’s a great guy we sat at the same table at a unit cookout on base and we talked and broke bread together. He’s a nice guy talked about his time in and I told him my dad served in Vietnam also. Great guy indeed and he autographed one of my unit patches.
Dude that's awesome!
Same here when I was in Aghanistan.
Col. Crandall and Major Freeman definitely are heroes.
Knowing what these two men did after this conversation in the next few hours makes this conversation everything that it should be. No honor, no glory, no parades, no nothing. Just two brothers who know they are capable of providing and each of them saying I love you one last time. I miss that camaraderie.
Think they got medals of honour didn't they? Also a few soldiers on the ground as well.
@@glenndouglas8822yep, both pilots got em for this exact scene
They should add this, as well as the other deleted scenes on a director's cut re-release. Not just that, but there should be a sequel featuring the other major action of the Battle of Ia Drang - the ambush of Col. McDade's 2nd Battalion of the 7th Calvary Regiment at LZ Albany.
and it happened as virtually part of the same battle. It was a bad omen for the entire war and I believe it affected tactics as they were apparently not cautious. A friend of mine was in that ill-fated battalion.
Absolutely the Survivors of that Battalion would have appreciated people seeing the sacrifices Their Brothers made.
The name of the reg and lz are insane too right? Both massive bloodshed in history before😫
I wish somebody would add all the deleted scenes and release an extended version. I would be happy to pay to see it!😊
hear's a tear for all the noble great kids that bled out over there. -- thanks for your service.
Yeah, thanks for bombing the people actually fighting for their freedom.
@@spoopy9689 Civil war is civil war ya nincompoop.
@@spoopy9689 Actually France did
@@spoopy9689 Wow. Critical thinking is dead. The French owned the country as colonial overlords but no, it's the native freedom fighters who started it. Jesus Christ.
If you haven't done so already...read the book...all of it
I read it a couple years ago so forgive me if my memory is off but didn't the guys on the ground not like the medical choppers because they on multiple occasions refused to go into the hot LZ? I just found that really surprising and the guy speaking seemed pretty upset about it.
@@Birdy890, good scene in that movie when the CO of the medevac pilots accosts Crandall for guiding them down towards the hot landing zone.
The reason that Crandall was not sending too tall in was because if Crandall went down Crandall needed to know that there was someone else there he could trust to take over and get the job done. You know Crandall was in charge, Crandall could have sent in Too Tall in to replace himself but the thought never crossed his mind.
Were all the pilots from the US Army Corps of Engineers?
Yea we got that
@@TheCoolCucumber however, most of the gunship pilots were Field Artillery. They called it "Aireal Field Artillery " Their missions were tasked through the artillery fire support networks. Many went back to cannon units after the war.
@@TheCoolCucumber CORRECT! Bruce Crandall had done several mapping missions in various parts of the world BEFORE he was selected to fly for the 7th Cavalry!
@@anonemaus159 CORRECT! Aerial Artillery Systems were initially attached to modified Huey helicopters and toward the end the cobra helicopter debuted. it was the forerunner to the Apache Helicopter of today and its subsequent replacement. BIRDS IN THE AIR!
Dad; "I killed 10 men in Vietnam."
Son; "I thought you were just a helicopter mechanic?"
Dad; "I never said I was a good one."
My friend from high school once told me about his grandfathers time in Vietnam. He was a huey pilot, and there was one mission where he flew to extract a single soldier in the middle of the night somewhere in the jungle. When that lone soldier boarded the helicopter, he proceeded to give him a kiss on the cheek. He was so thankful for this man risking his life for him. That story always stuck with me. God bless those who have endured war.
My candidate for best Vietnam war movie of all time
This and Casualties of War with Michael J Fox. Both nonfiction.
Casualties is what I think of;
not every platoon had good leadership, like We Were
thousands & thousands of boys over there without leadership
They really should have kept that scene in the movie.
Nah.
They are the ones who changed the way the helicopter was used in war. Brilliant brave on their feet thinking. Bless them all. I think of this movie every-time I travel Rt280 net Auburn
This was an amazing scene. Really makes a point. Why the hell was it deleted.
Probably for pacing and tone. Them 'yelling' at one another does kind of seem out of place given what comes before and after this point.
running time, usually
@@Tank50us they're yelling because helos are loud, not because they're angry or anything. You usually have to yell directly into the person's ear that you're sitting next to in a shithook or Blackhawk. Can't imagine a Huey is any better.
At least we get to see it here. Great scene, thought, should have been in the movie
They made the cuts to get a lower age rating for the release.
They should have done a director's cut with all the extra scenes in.
That moment, when you realize that your Soldiers are just as crazy dedicated as you.😢
Yep
This seriously needs an extended cut
Had the pleasure of attending a reunion dinner in Washington DC as a guest. Got a copy of the book signed by both authors and a number of the guys. Ed Freeman (too tall) gave me his medal of honour coin
I believe during the Vietnam war they had such a large need for chopper pilots, that they took the best qualified from all branches of the Army. It was many years later that pilots were awarded their own aviation insignia.
Richard, there was no Aviation Branch during the Vietnam War. It had ceased to exist after the Army Air Force became the U.S. Air Force in 1947. Aviation Branch was finally reactivated in the early 80s. All Army pilots were trained in another branch and wore that insignia during the Vietnam War.
They wanted Loach Pilots & Crews so badly they offered them half a tour to rotate out. They were the small three crewed designed for observation Birds that served as bait for the Cobras in what they called Hunter Killer Missions, where the Loach would dip in and out of the Tree Tops @ low speeds & try to draw fire and would drop smoke if they received any and the Cobras flying above and behind them would come down and rain hell on the Position. They had a Pilot, an Observer and a M60 Gunner whose weapon hung outside the cockpit on a bungee cord.
Probably the most insane Group of Individuals you ran into in Country. Absolute balls of steel.
Not true they had a separate Warrant Officer Army Aviation School and accepted
anyone over 18 with a High School Diploma. You came out a Warrant Officer 1st Grade Aviator and received Army Aviator Wings and once you got a seat you were promoted to Chief Warrant Officer. Over 90% of Chopper Pilots from the Loach right up to the Chinook and larger were almost exclusively Warrant Officers.
At the start of the War the Army Aviator Warrant Officer Program was just getting
started and that is why there were a lot of Commissioned Officer flying, but by
late 66 and early 67 it was almost exclusively Warrant Officer Aviators.
These should have highlighted the actions of Crandall and Freeman more
Greg Kinnear’s emotion in this is phenomenal.
Kinnear performs heartfelt genuine.
YEAH, I GUESS IT IS!
I met the real Crandall, he came to visit us in Afghanistan, funny old man.
The Col. is a hell of a man
@@franklinwelfl2558 he told jokes from another era, back when people weren’t so serious, so high strung; some of the lady pilots rolled their eyes. I loved it, when I walked up for my picture he was full of lieutenant jokes, I was a huge fan!
I learned some Lt. jokes from a Platoon Leader, It truly would be an honor to meet the Col. At a High Angle Rescue training at TEEX, I had the opportunity to meet a Gentleman who flew with the Col. and Major Freeman. He said they are truly how they were depicted in the movie.
@@franklinwelfl2558 yes great portrayal by Greg Kinnear...he was funny easygoing w a certain can-do positive energy about him that only leaders have
He's from Olympia Wa, got his autograph before I deployed to Iraq. He is a funny man, slow burning, dry sense of humor.
I really enjoyed this movie.
Hollywood actually did it a good service.
Instead of basing it on fantasy.
This was filmed just 20 miles north of me. Great movie. Remember meeting some of the actors in town one day.
I have a question - and you would be shocked how much significance your anticipated answer would have for me: WHERE was this epic legend filmed?
I have read the book, watched the "documentary" [That was MORE than just a movie] and this story is actually a part of my life now.
Where was the movie made?
Yman83464 bend over and I’ll show you
The first thing I thought upon seeing the movie was that the hills looked just like SoCal.
@@Yman83464z Most of it was filmed at fabulous Fort Hunter Liggett in CA, with small parts filmed at Fort Moore, (formerly Benning), GA. I have never been to Ft. Moore but I have been to FHL. Really hot, lots of hills and mountains and tarantulas ha-ha.
@@twofiveb You're not missing much at Fort Moore. Columbus is awful
God bless All the brave veterans of the Vietnam War. You all seen and been through something the rest of us could not imagine .
You all played a critical part in the overall Cold War between us and the Soviets. Despite the outcome you all showed that America was serious about it's commitments to our allies and friends.
The final fall of the Berlin Wall in 89 and the collapse of the Soviet Union in 91 is in part thanks to all you Vietnam War veterans as well as all those who served in the US Armed Forces. God bless you all.
You can't mess with brotherhood...
Damn it!! who's cutting onions again..🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Best war picture ever made
I really wish we could get a 3 hour cut of this movie
That scene was in the movie I saw. Great movie.
1:29 sounds like he was about to laugh out loud
I guess it does!
Yeah I guess it does
Yeah, I guess it does! (Haha)
SO many great scenes were cut out for stupid reasons.
I really need to find a director’s cut of this movie.
when they release movies on dvds they should add the deleted scenes and extend the movie.
On the behind the scenes video I think they said there was 160 hours of film. It's gonna be a long movie.
@@donnash5813 good!
I love that scene
Brotherhood has no boundaries.
There are so many scenes left out that were in the book. They should have left them all in. No cuts.
Greg Kinnear is a great actor, and of all his work, I believe this movie was his very best. Amazing job.
Man, though, he absolutely SUCKED in the god-awful remake of STephen King's "The STand."
Ray Walston was a PHENOMENAL actor and played Glen Bateman ("Professor") to a TEE.
Everyone in that remake SUCKED and should have their SAG cards PULLED.
And KING should be sent to hell for allowing the remake. It was foul-mouthed, VILE, poorly produced, poorly directed and UNTRUE to the novel.
as good as it gets....
Brilliant scene. Should have kept it! 😊
All these years later, I just now noticed that Too Tall is wearing Engineer Branch insignia on his collar, instead of Aviation.
FedralBI He was a Master Sergeant with the Engineers in the Korean War.
There was no aviation branch until October 1, 1985. Before that all pilots wore the branch of the type of unit they were assigned to. I know, because I was at Fort Rucker on Oct. 1, 1985 when we all pinned on the aviation branch insignia.
Kansas Guy
I grew up on Mother Rucker during the Vietnam war.
Father was a two tour pilot there.
His first tour with the 229th AHB of The Cav.
He flew into Xray with Capt. Robert Stinnet on day two and then flew into Albany for the
midnight rescue.
You wouldn't believe the flybys of the graduating advanced classes every Friday >> MASSIVE.
He had a funny story about Ed Freeman. After a mission the choppers were coming back to An Khe/ Camp Radcliffe.
There was a miscommunication between Freeman and another pilot at the landing on the Golf Course , apparently over two words that sounded similar, and their
main rotors clipped causing both choppers to rollover. Everyone in the area dove for cover. Somehow no one was hurt but my Dad said Freeman was so pissed he was steaming mad.
Very cool story! They were very lucky nobody was injured. I bet those fly-bys were something to see!! The 229th was still at Mother Rucker when I was there for AIT in '85. It was right across the street from our barracks and was putting the then brand-new Apache through its final flight testing. It was cool to watch! Thanks for your dad's service! I am glad he made it home. That was some serious stuff he flew into over there.
My grandfather was a civilian helicopter mechanic there for over 40 yrs you might have met him
The right shoulder patch on Moore’s fatigues is the 7th ID, the same division my father, 94, served in Korea in the 1960s.
A Huey Landing performed with Perfection..."NICE".
You've gotta love these heroes
"...they won't even find your eyebrows. SCHMIDT!"
Schmidt: 👁️👄👁️
Schmidt looks like a badass too. Didn't hesitate for a second.
Schmit was a gangster, he leaned forward before Too Tall. 🇺🇸🤩
Gotta respect these pilots, they will go in with no hesitation for their brothers down on the ground
true story - had the privilege of working with a Cobra pilot. Randy, I wish you well. Earned a silver star keeping a company of USARMY alive in Nam. There is so much back story that we have no idea.
Interesting, Freeman had a Corps Of Engineers insignia on his collar.
I looked him up and yes, he certainly had an interesting career in the Army. Huge respect for him.
Perhaps you aren't sabi on how officer career fields work.
After the creation of the Air Force, Aviation branch insignia went away for many years. Pilots usually wore a combat branch insignia for which they were additionally trained in. Or transportation branch which during VietNam was the branch in charge of aviation. Post VietNam, I served with many officers who were Infantry, having been Riffed (reduction in force) from aviation and sent to their alternate schooled branches. The 101st ABN was a helicopter division and was full of Infantry qualified pilots, as well as Infantry officers who had pilot wings.
Aviation was brought back as it's own branch, I think in the early 80"s.
The scene where the bleeding soldier is pulled from the chopper...
Went to school with twin brothers whose father was a crew chief on a Huey in Vietnam... The brothers relayed to me that their dad had said the bodies were the worst part... Bloody bodies and body parts, all day everyday. And buckets of blood that had to be cleaned out of the inside of the chopper.
@OldSchool Jack YES! I tear up each time I see that and remember those young men who were wounded and those who died coming back in a body bag or just motionless in the bed of a huey helicopter. had several uncles who served in vietnam as well as older and much older cousins from BOTH sides of the Family.
This is actually pretty damn funny. Acting seems slightly off though
Jay Lee and that’s why it was cut lol
I was a Vietnamese baby boy who grew up in an Orphanage in Vietnam and lost my family in 1965 in the early stages of this war. Had the amazing fortune of getting adopted by an Ex-WWII marine / family here in the states. In my late teens , I worked construction w/ many men who served in this conflict. Their stories were all sad and tragic. A guy named Chuck was a Gunner on the helicopters and lasted 3 tours. He told me their life expectancy was 15 days . Always bragged about how beautiful the country was but had to shoot @ everything when taking fire. Said it was absolutely nuts and had no idea why the hell they were there. Same w/ other vets Ive worked w/in the past. Now in my late 50s i can see, the US is the worst nation promoting wars . They havent stopped since Vietnam.
We've had exactly one President in 150 years that didn't get us into any new armed conflicts.
@@matts1166 Without Googling it, was it Carter?
Correction: haven't stopped promoting wars since the 1870's.
One of the great tragedies of humanity is how profitable it is to blow up someone else's country, and then loan them the money to pay you to rebuild it for them.
@@WillyShankspeare NOPE! james earl carter ranks as the THIRD WORST president just above THE obamamessiah and BRANDON!
From everything I have read and watched, our politicians seem to think that conflicts like the Gulf War are the rule and conflicts like Vietnam are the exceptions. I say it is the other way around. What all these wars seem to have in common is someone is getting rich, and it's not the soldiers that are doing the fighting. I am a 23-year army veteran and I wish my country wasn't going around and starting wars like this.
Sorry to hear you lost your family yet glad you were able to build a good life afterwards. 👍
All these scenes are depicted in the book. Amazing realism
That’s a damn good scene. What’s wrong with them, cutting that scene?
I think it would have been good to keep in because TT and Crandall kind of had the bickering sibling going but had each other’s backs. And in case people are wondering how tall he is/was; 6”4’
Heart of a volunteer... fight over who goes... I love my country
I’m pretty sure that this is in the original version, is it not? At least as I recall it.
25 people don't think that it's settled
"LZ is red hot, I need volunteers."
*They all step forwards*
Yep, seems about right.
surely they mustve giggled and said "guess that settles it" when they decided to delete the scene
Amazing men who fought there
Beautiful
Too cool I'm an extra in the Chris Kleins platoon, I think I can see myself behind him, lol.
Well, that was a productive conversation.
Well, I guess that settles it then.
I loooove Greg Kinnear
That is a great movie!
About to have a million views
It’s a very sobering thing to see someone that’s been shot from personal experience
I wish that scene was left in the movie.
Agreed
Why was this a deleted sence tho?? This was great!
Why do they delete great scenes like this??
All gave some and some gave ALL!
Another deleted screen that should have been left in. People need to see everything that played part in this American offensive!!
The last “yeah,I guess it does” pretty much ruined the vibe lol
Awesome
Bruce P. Crandall scene supplied ammunition at night under heavy fire----where this?? Can you help me please
what do wanna know? the movie is we were soldiers and this is the US' first combat experience in vietnam.. i believe it's in la drang valley or something like that..
Snake's Bad Night scene ,,, it should search here on the utube. INTENSE!
RIP BRUCE CRANDAlL. MoH 2019
Colonel Bruce Crandall is STILL ALIVE as of Summer 2022! Lieutenant General Hal Moore has passed as well as Sergeant Major Basil Plumley
Such an underrated movie.
it looks to me like it was a fake argument for the benefit of the others.
Yes
Not really those two where said to be the best pilots in the army and best friend where the only thing they would argue about is who is the 2nd best pilot in the army..
Well, you can see why they cut it
Inspiring, humorous, adds to the story. Oh yea, why would you want such an emotional scene your movie?
TAKE IT OUT!🤪
brothers in arms.
The yes it does was the only part of this that I don't remember from the movie
Watch the real life interview Crandall did. Amazing man.
So, who was the best rotary pilot then?
One of the best movies ive ever seen .anyone whos ever spilled there blood for something eould understand why.
Worst bullshit ending ever. "Braveheart does nam."
Gotta wonder how they flew those choppers without their giant brass balls getting in the way
Chris Geisler that's an easy one to answer. They applied full throttle, pulled collective into their armpits ...
We have an aircav unit out THERE
All the deleted scenes were good scenes.
All the fictional scenes were deleted
I FORGOT WHY THE CREW DIDN'T WANT THE EVACUATION PUT IN THE CORNER BECAUSE OF THE BLOOD HARD TO CLEAN AND THE SMELL. HARD TO FORGET.
Well, I guess that settles it then...
Funny moment. Did not, did too, etc.
Wait next to choppers wouldnt there have been C130s or C123s or C119s or even C47s to help airdrop crates of ammunition and supplies that is?
Why these scenes are not in the film??
I see all the aircrew are wearing the serge green Air Force coveralls. At this time the Army was still wearing the cotton "stateside" fatigues, though the two piece OD green Nomex flight suits would be coming soon.