There’s a scene that I feel was better done in the live action than the original that I bet the fanbase would rip me apart for( I’ll comment which seen once the blind wave reaction goes up for it)
Iroh and Zuko are the whole show. The funeral scene in this is the best scene of the series, for sure. That scene with Iroh and the Earthbender soldier is also incredible.
I know people being complaining about the live action show but can we all agreed that Iroh is still the GOAT in any versions? Granted I never watched the film.
Zuko and Iroh's relationship especially as displayed during the flashback scene's in this episode were some of my favorite things they did here! Zuko comforting Iroh with a story about Lu Ten as leaves from the vine plays in the background, probably my favorite scene in this whole adaptation. And that exchange: "I don't need a babysitter." "How about a friend?" and "everything I need, is on this ship" like that's genuinely great stuff!
Lu Ten Funeral scene hit hard with a great tribute to Mako with a melody of Leaves of the vines hold very good place in my personal life with two of my uncles no longer around
Greg Baldwin and Paul Sun-Hyung Lee hang out a lot and are great friends. (Both Irohs) Greg Baldwin's most frequently asked request from fans is to sing Leaves from the Vine which he always refuses. He always explains that the song belongs to Mako and only to Mako. That is why he refuses to sing the song for anyone even after taking up the mantle of voicing Uncle Iroh. The fact that Paul also does not sing the song in the first season is also a fitting tribute to Mako as well and makes sense since Iroh is unable to say or speak due to his grief from losing his son. With Season 2 and 3 confirmed by Netflix, it is likely that we will get the live action Iroh Tales of Ba Sing Se episode but he will not actually sing Leaves from the Vine. If it is added in season 2 we are definitely going to need to prepare for more tear-bending.
28:02 There's a short flash back in the original where Iroh is writing a letter to Ozai, or maybe to Zuko or his son. He makes a remark about how beautiful Ba Sing Se is, and he finishes the letter with a joke kinda like "I hope you get to see this city one day, if we don't burn it all first lol."
I like bumi's experience. He's bssically the only character that lived before the war, through he war, and after the war. He has experience life in all ways and him being jaded made so much sense
EXACTLY!!! THANK YOU for saying that!! While i Know Bumi was Supposed to be funny, crazy, and ofcourse "Aang's childhood friend", the L.A made him more Realistic in the way that, most people who survives war and sees their friends and Brothers die, thats how they Would end up! Or rather, maybe not during a war that lasted 2-7yrs but, for a man like him that has Fought for a war for 100 YEARS (come to think of it, he Must have been close to death Thousands of times!), its not weird he got saltier and saltier... Especially towards a friend he thought would be his best friend forever, and finds out "he must have died with his people.", Finds out not ONLY is he supposed to save the Entire world, but, for all he knows Aang could have been messing around (WHICH HE DID, kinda in the Animated) INSTEAD of taking his responsibility serious, after finding out he Survived Somehow, still being the same age - by the looks - as he was in the past, ulike himself!.. Idk, i just think, the design Could be better but, i Absolutely loved and think they did a good job with the character... But thats just my own opinion..
@senecavanzandt4425 to be fair, he is a king. He could easily end up getting another as a pet throughout the show. Aint like he is lacking in funds or the ability to do so.
I really loved this episode, the added scenes with Iroh and Zuko, more emotional Bumi, the music, the secret tunnel hippies. So good. Fun facts: secret tunnel guy is Justin Wong, Kenny Wu from Mighty Ducks 2 and 3 and Bumi is Utkarash Ambudkar from Pitch Perfect/Ghosts/Free Guy
aang and iroh having a heart to heart surrounded by jade rocks doesnt happen until season 2 this is cool It gives more depth to Katara and Sokkas relationship having them going into the cave together. Bumi kept his puns the 540 zuko hit was crazy
Seeing reciprocity from Zuko by acting as the kind, reassuring figure for Iroh instead of the other way around like we usually do is one of the best things about this adaptation.
I’ve never thought about it like that, but you’re right. If Iroh acted exactly like the animated Iroh it wouldn’t fit the show. He would be TOO jovial to make it work. The audience would know right away that he was a good guy and would roll their eyes whenever something happens. It works in the animated show because goofier things can happen and we can let it go.
How is he a good guy when he burnt people alive for the crime of defending their home from an army hell bent on world domination. The fire nation are fascists who murdered all of aangs people. They had no just cause for their war, it wasn’t revenge, they just want to bring order through fear and pain, iroh was a general in fascist army. And there’s a supremacy element where the fire nation believes they’re better than the others. He might be a nice uncle but I don’t get why everyone loves him.
Im 60 and bawled when the score evolved into that beautiful rendition of Leaves From The Vine during Lu Ten's memorial (again). I also like that they extended it to Iroh's and Zuko's relationship.
24:39 I think it should also be noted that not every criticism is the result of comparing it to the original cartoon. Their not mutually exclusive. IMO that shouldn't be the default position. I feel there are issues with the live action adaptation that have nothing to do with the animation.
The Zuko & Iroh stuff is definitely the strongest stuff this season imo & it looks so good I love how everything looks the set design and costumes are great
Leaves from the vine Falling so slow Like fragile tiny shells Drifting in the foam Little soldier boy Come marching home Brave soldier boy Come marching home
The scene with Iroh and Zuko at Lu Tens funeral was so unexpected and for me it was the best scene in the episode. And they played ''Leaves from the vine'' in the background that was the moment when i teared up too. The whole scene showed perfectly the great bond betwen Iroh and Zuko and how kind Zuko actually is. Their acting was so great. ofc the whole episode was very good.
Oh man. I was crying so hard in that funeral scene that I didn’t even notice Leaves from the Vine was playing until my sister said through her tears, “you hear it?” 😭
I can see why certain people didn't like Bumi but realistically I absolutely loved it because if I was put into position as Bumi, living throughout the 100 years and seeing your best friend who was supposed to save the world turn up out of nowhere, that's how I would react and that's how I would talk to him and show him and try to prove a point.
Thanks for appreciating Bumi, I think bc of the realistic parts of this show, making him more realistic is too. He would be hurt Aang left, he would be broken and traumatized from 100 years of war. He wouldn’t exactly look like him either, he would look ridiculous if it was 100% exactly like him in the animated show.
They completely missed the point of using Jet, the enigneer, and the cave of love, Aang learned lessons from each of those story lines and in live action he wasnt around for any of it lol, dude they put katara and sokka in the cave of love together, brother and sister LoL COMPLETELY forgetting the relationshol building between Aang and katara, like they went for incest over the proper story line lol, they really butchered all the side stories and lost so much character development. Oh and cave of lovers WAS IN SEASON 2 not season 1.... netflix cant help themselves from ruining time and tested stories... so pathetic.
Everything about Zuko is so fcking good in this adaptation. Just cut off Aang, Katara and most other characters and give me a show about Zuko and Sokka
Tears from our eyes, Come rolling down, Like little drops of rain, When we hear the sound, Avatar fans, have nothing to defend Against Uncle Iroh's, ability to tearbend. (-read/sing in Uncle Iroh's voice as in Leaves from the Vine)
I get what they're saying about needing to separate the two versions and judge this one on it's own merits but even doing that, the writing is not great in this show for the most part. There is some good to even great stuff in this like the Lu ten funeral scene or the guard calling out Iroh for his actions as a Fire Nation general but a lot of this show is tell and not show. Sarcastic Chorus has a great (though long) breakdown of the season and hits upon a lot of the issues I had with it myself. Tons of expositioney dialogue, some flat acting (dear god gran-gran's intro speech), character "growth" even though they didn't really do anything to grow, Katara kinda got shafted as a pretty main character. There's more but I'd have to sit and parse out my thoughts better about it. That said it's not a bad show at all but I think even if I had no prior knowledge of ATLA I would still have most of the same problems with it. Overall, some good stuff sprinkled in but I'd give it a 5 or 6 out of 10, not bad but a perfectly average show.
This episode broke me. The first few notes of "Leaves on the Vine" during the funeral scene made be bawl and I kept crying throughout the rest of the episode. I'm really enjoying this adaptation!
Secret Tunnels!!!! Same spot where Zuko had to make that choice or rescue Zuko that’s perfect. They were playing leafs from the vine instrumental. Bumi: you think like a child Me as aang: fool I’m 12
While I don’t like Bumi’s cynicism bc it doesn’t feel like bumi to me, I agree that this episode really captured the emotion well. Making a point to show the war as not black and white, that there are fire nation citizens against this beyond Iroh, and showing a darker side of Iroh in his responses to acknowledge that he did terrible things as the dragon of the west. That is an amazing touch.
They made Bumi mad at Aang for not being there in this version, but in this version they also made Aang getting trapped in ice something that happened when he went for a walk to clear his head, instead of him running away intentionally. So it's not even his fault but it's being treated as if it's even more his fault than it was in the old version. Both changes clash with each other so harshly, I don't understand why they made them both.
Everything in the live action series feels very surface level to me. It's coasting by on viewers filling in the gaps with their memories of the animated series. Kind of like a What If version of Avatar
Glad I’m not the only one crying at the instrumental Leaves From the Vine. I swear my generation/anyone who’s watched ATLA is Pavlovian conditioned to start sobbing the moment those chords start. Lol
Secret Tunnel is such a memorable and oft referenced thing they had to include it in some way, but they couldn't exactly copy it because, in live action, the ages (both generally and relatively to eachother) of Aang and Katara make romance, for the moment at least, kinda creepy. Making it familial love with Katara and Sokka seems like a fair alternative.
They didn't have to include it at all because it's from S2. It's here for no reason and doesn't really do anything that we didn't already know for Sokka and Katara's relationship. Also this is part of the larger problem of not even bothering to develop Aang and Katara's relationship at all.
@@seventycross0yt175 I never understand this, as Bumi himself says, Aang may be 112 years old, but he hasn’t lived for 112 years. If he were chilling somewhere and aging mentally for 100 years then yeah that’s grounds for calling it creepy, but for him the Airbender genocide was last week. He has not aged for 112 years both physically or mentally
@@phoebusapollo8365 Exactly lol imagine if someone time traveled past their birth. Someone could be born in 1920, travel in 1930 when they are 10 years old to 2000 and they were technically born 80 years ago but they're not 80 years old they are still only 10 years old. Idk why people keep bringing up Aang's age saying it'd be weird when it isn't
this was the episode that made me completely drop the live action bumi bothered me so much i was quite shocked to see people like the changes to his character, i didn’t even finish the ep and started a rewatch from the king of omashu as a cleanse so hope you guys enjoy the rest i have no clue what’s after this
I felt that the cave scene between Aang and Katara was really important in the cartoon, to show how undeveloped the kids are at sharing those kinds of feelings and showing that they DO have those feelings for each other, but it was completely removed here
I understand that sentiment, but personally, Bumi being this bitter makes way more sense to me. I mean if you lived over 100 years and most of those years were in war, you would go a little crazy and be kinda pissed that your friend, who you know could save the world, didnt
I kinda like it it makes it more believable because after a hundred years of war and death I would not want to be friends with a person who still has a silly personality
So for a huge ATLA fan that grew up watching it on cable, watching it a few dozen times, and hold it in my heart as a top fave series, I only have one real gripe about the live action series. And that is how much they changed Bumi's personality. I can accept everything else and enjoy it, but his personality change was a huge miss for me. I've accepted it though since as an artistic choice. I am happy they showed some old Bumi in the end.
13:11 - King Bumi’s attitude changes toward Aang seem to be taken from the Fishing Hermit voiced by Ed Asner who accused Aang of running away 100 years before. See book 1 episode 12, The Storm.
I really like zuko and iroh but it feels odd that iroh life changed so late into his life. Zuko is like 13 in the flashback. So Lu Ten died like 3 years ago?
30:49 Well, in the first episode with airbenders there was a lot of hand-to-hand combat, but I get what you mean, there wasn't a lot of it after that. Maybe in-universe fighting styles changed after 100 years.
Bumi is a good example of the writers not understanding what made the characters special in the first place and is a large indication of how poor the character writing is. Textbook character assassination. They turned him into thr old man from The Storm episode lol.
LMAO I've been looking at your hate comments in the last few days... getting harder and harder for you to get tractions eh. But HEY, it's ok, literally EVERYONE hates this show right? Btw, good. Bumi wasted a whole couple of days of the Avatar JUST to make a joke and test Aang to see if he can identify him as Bumi. In a cartoon and an 24ish minute episode, fine. It works fine... in a live action series, it would have been cringe and ridiculous. THIS Bumi makes more sense if you don't want a one dimensional character. "But Bumi is suppose to be like a rock, enduring the century..." Again, sure, in a cartoon... but it doesn't make any sense. This version does. For most people at least lol
@claudegrenier3180 Back for some more punishment as I destroy your arguments? It was one day, so that goes to show how much you even paid attention to the original. The challenges were a lesson in finding creative solutions and is a huge part of Aang's character and Bumi's purpose in waiting and listening for the right moment. Bumi is literally a one dimensional character. He's like every other civilian yelling at him. He's stripped of everything that made him memorable. You know it doesn't make sense for 112 year olds to be a king and ripped and be able to move rocks right?
Maybe instead of thinking how Bumi was in the cartoon, try to understand why his live-action was like that. NATLA has human elements and they're at war, Bumi felt anger because he's been fighting a war for a century, a war that in his mind may've been shortened and easier if the Avatar was there to help them, the same Avatar that is also his close friend. Given that feeling of abandonment, it's understable why he is like that. And btw, even in episode one when the showrunners decided to show the genocide and burning a man alive, u shud already have prepared urself that this show is NO longer the cartoon and changes are inevitable.
@@unomiguel017sure, I get all that. I understand that it’s a different setting and tone overall. But I honestly didn’t think his arc had a strong reasoning in the first place, it was kind of a sloppy writing IMO. Also the humor didn’t quite work for me. But as I’ve said, totally get it that some people liked it.
So glad to see you guys have been enjoying this show so much. The Iroh scenes were the highlights of this episode. I think the guy that plays him must have felt a lot of pressure in playing this character. I mean to say, Iroh is for most of the fandom the most beloved character. At the same time for most fans Mako's voice will always be Iroh. Looking at those two things this new actor is doing an incredible job in portraying this iconic character. I've got a lot of respect for him. I agree with you guys that on some of the fans responses to this new show. Some fans have never even given this show a fair chance, some even were horrible to some of the child actors, something I will never understood. Like calling some kids "too chubby for the role" I don't get why people should say that, but I guess that is why social media is a toxic place. I can only hope the child actors of this show just don't look too much on social media and read the negativity. You can clearly see that everyone who works on the show is doing the best they can and that they are very passionate about the original show and the story as well.
The show has a lot of problems. Plenty of miscastings. Mai and Ty Lee do not resemble Mai and Ty Lee. Azula was gutted. Bumi is awful. Yue is.... even worse.
8:50 "I think that's my favorite added scene they've done yet."
Lu Ten's funeral IMMEDIATELY after. 🤣🤣
Well that didn't age, but in a good way 👍
There’s a scene that I feel was better done in the live action than the original that I bet the fanbase would rip me apart for( I’ll comment which seen once the blind wave reaction goes up for it)
Calvin immediately after saying you wanna amend your previous statement eric made it even better 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤❤❤
@terogates1 Do tell. I won't give you crap for it. Promise.
@@terogates1Same I’m curious, no judgement. ^^
13:48 I'm reminded of a C.S. Lewis quote: “A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children isn't a good children's story in the slightest.”
If you're showing them no more than they've already seen, you'll be teaching them no more than they already know.
Sounds like C.S. Lewis and Rev. W Awdry would have compared notes on how to write good children’s stories.
"I think that's my favorite added scene yet."
The Lu Ten funeral scene one second later: hold my ginseng tea
Did you notice the background music score was "Leaves from the Vine"
@@vincentkrych2158yep it killed me
Iroh and Zuko are the whole show. The funeral scene in this is the best scene of the series, for sure. That scene with Iroh and the Earthbender soldier is also incredible.
'Everything I need is on this boat'
*aggressively grabs tissues
"Do you want to amend your previous statement, Eric?" The whiplash from crying to laughing my ass off.
Paul Sun-Hyung Lee absolutely kills it as Iroh in this episode. Man is levels above. You can see the emotion just in his eyes.
Idk bout absolutely kills it but the script is good.
I know people being complaining about the live action show but can we all agreed that Iroh is still the GOAT in any versions? Granted I never watched the film.
@@Renkencen To save you the burden of watching the movie, he is NOT the GOAT lol
@@nasifsiddiquey2234Why, how much did they screwed him up in the film?
Yea he kills the character as in being so far from what the og was
Zuko and Iroh's relationship especially as displayed during the flashback scene's in this episode were some of my favorite things they did here! Zuko comforting Iroh with a story about Lu Ten as leaves from the vine plays in the background, probably my favorite scene in this whole adaptation. And that exchange: "I don't need a babysitter." "How about a friend?" and "everything I need, is on this ship" like that's genuinely great stuff!
Lu Ten Funeral scene hit hard with a great tribute to Mako with a melody of Leaves of the vines hold very good place in my personal life with two of my uncles no longer around
The Funeral scene is my favorite scene in the entire series
The instrumental for leaves from a vine during the funeral scene gets me everytime
Greg Baldwin and Paul Sun-Hyung Lee hang out a lot and are great friends. (Both Irohs)
Greg Baldwin's most frequently asked request from fans is to sing Leaves from the Vine which he always refuses. He always explains that the song belongs to Mako and only to Mako. That is why he refuses to sing the song for anyone even after taking up the mantle of voicing Uncle Iroh.
The fact that Paul also does not sing the song in the first season is also a fitting tribute to Mako as well and makes sense since Iroh is unable to say or speak due to his grief from losing his son.
With Season 2 and 3 confirmed by Netflix, it is likely that we will get the live action Iroh Tales of Ba Sing Se episode but he will not actually sing Leaves from the Vine. If it is added in season 2 we are definitely going to need to prepare for more tear-bending.
I have to say putting leaves from the vine in the background is just perfect
Iroh and Zuko - there are few things that demonstrate love more effectively than "your burden is now my burden".
28:02 There's a short flash back in the original where Iroh is writing a letter to Ozai, or maybe to Zuko or his son. He makes a remark about how beautiful Ba Sing Se is, and he finishes the letter with a joke kinda like "I hope you get to see this city one day, if we don't burn it all first lol."
Iroh and the Earth Bender dude stuff was so good.
Man. That poor Cabbage guy can’t catch a break. He’s just trying to run a business. 😂
Idunno… specifically placing his cart in comedically advantageous areas is a poor business model, he should really rethink that.
Wait till you see Legend of Korra. He made an empire with those cabbages 😁
Yea, I ugly cried this episode. What a powerful rendition of leaves from the vine, what a beautiful scene.
The intro always gets me 🤣
The lu ten funeral fr brought a tear to my eye. The fire nation stuff in this show is done so well
There are many gripes I have with the Netflix version, but I must say they nail Iroh and Zuko's relationship and story. The tears flow freely.
I like bumi's experience. He's bssically the only character that lived before the war, through he war, and after the war. He has experience life in all ways and him being jaded made so much sense
EXACTLY!!! THANK YOU for saying that!!
While i Know Bumi was Supposed to be funny, crazy, and ofcourse "Aang's childhood friend", the L.A made him more Realistic in the way that, most people who survives war and sees their friends and Brothers die, thats how they Would end up! Or rather, maybe not during a war that lasted 2-7yrs but, for a man like him that has Fought for a war for 100 YEARS (come to think of it, he Must have been close to death Thousands of times!), its not weird he got saltier and saltier...
Especially towards a friend he thought would be his best friend forever, and finds out "he must have died with his people.", Finds out not ONLY is he supposed to save the Entire world, but, for all he knows Aang could have been messing around (WHICH HE DID, kinda in the Animated) INSTEAD of taking his responsibility serious, after finding out he Survived Somehow, still being the same age - by the looks - as he was in the past, ulike himself!..
Idk, i just think, the design Could be better but, i Absolutely loved and think they did a good job with the character... But thats just my own opinion..
Everyone's face when "Leaves on the Vine" starts playing under the scene...thanks now I know what it looked like when it happened to me.
Seeing Iroh and Aang interact is the best thing this adaptation, it is truly amazing.
Jet being frozen in this is just like the same in the OG.
EASTER EGG ALERT:
King Bumi's pet goat-gorilla Flopsie is in the background as a statue.
I noticed that, too
what’s crazy is that if you watch the reaction you’re commenting under, the BW crew actually mentions that when it shows up 🙃
EASTER EGG ALERT:
King Bumi's pet goat-gorilla Flopsie is being noticed at 2:54
I was hoping that he actually shows up in season 2...
@senecavanzandt4425 to be fair, he is a king. He could easily end up getting another as a pet throughout the show. Aint like he is lacking in funds or the ability to do so.
Dammit guys, when y'all cry, I can't help but cry too! 😢
Even if they didn't cry, I still probably would have.
“Leaves on the Vine” would do that. Song tugs heartstrings.
This is my personal favorite episode of the series. The Iroh and Zuko backstory scenes hit me hard. It hits different in live action 😢
SECRET TUNNELS! SECRET SECRET SECRET SECRET TUNNNNNNELS!!!!!!! 💕💕💕💕
Eric: I think that was my favorite added scene yet.
Me: wait for it!!!!
One second later
Calvin: you want to amend your previous statement?
I really loved this episode, the added scenes with Iroh and Zuko, more emotional Bumi, the music, the secret tunnel hippies. So good. Fun facts: secret tunnel guy is Justin Wong, Kenny Wu from Mighty Ducks 2 and 3 and Bumi is Utkarash Ambudkar from Pitch Perfect/Ghosts/Free Guy
aang and iroh having a heart to heart surrounded by jade rocks doesnt happen until season 2 this is cool
It gives more depth to Katara and Sokkas relationship having them going into the cave together.
Bumi kept his puns
the 540 zuko hit was crazy
Keep on keeping on with the amazing comments 👍
Zuko and iroh ❤❤❤❤❤ the best i have watch this scenes more than 20 time even more and i cry every time ❤❤😭
Seeing reciprocity from Zuko by acting as the kind, reassuring figure for Iroh instead of the other way around like we usually do is one of the best things about this adaptation.
Yeah Zuko and Iroh's story is insanely well translated. Tears were forming
forming???? they're literally flowing😂
I’ve never thought about it like that, but you’re right. If Iroh acted exactly like the animated Iroh it wouldn’t fit the show. He would be TOO jovial to make it work. The audience would know right away that he was a good guy and would roll their eyes whenever something happens. It works in the animated show because goofier things can happen and we can let it go.
How is he a good guy when he burnt people alive for the crime of defending their home from an army hell bent on world domination. The fire nation are fascists who murdered all of aangs people. They had no just cause for their war, it wasn’t revenge, they just want to bring order through fear and pain, iroh was a general in fascist army. And there’s a supremacy element where the fire nation believes they’re better than the others. He might be a nice uncle but I don’t get why everyone loves him.
Im 60 and bawled when the score evolved into that beautiful rendition of Leaves From The Vine during Lu Ten's memorial (again).
I also like that they extended it to Iroh's and Zuko's relationship.
These moments between Iroh and Zuko,especially the flashback's scene were great ;)
24:39 I think it should also be noted that not every criticism is the result of comparing it to the original cartoon. Their not mutually exclusive. IMO that shouldn't be the default position. I feel there are issues with the live action adaptation that have nothing to do with the animation.
My favorite episode of the season.
The Zuko & Iroh stuff is definitely the strongest stuff this season imo & it looks so good I love how everything looks the set design and costumes are great
Leaves from the vine
Falling so slow
Like fragile tiny shells
Drifting in the foam
Little soldier boy
Come marching home
Brave soldier boy
Come marching home
Exactly, You don't have to pick one or the other. They are all on netflix to watch.
The scene with Iroh and Zuko at Lu Tens funeral was so unexpected and for me it was the best scene in the episode. And they played ''Leaves from the vine'' in the background that was the moment when i teared up too. The whole scene showed perfectly the great bond betwen Iroh and Zuko and how kind Zuko actually is. Their acting was so great. ofc the whole episode was very good.
Bumi literally punishes Aang. In the original, Bumi puts Aang to the test, telling him to "always think outside the box".
Oh man. I was crying so hard in that funeral scene that I didn’t even notice Leaves from the Vine was playing until my sister said through her tears, “you hear it?” 😭
I can see why certain people didn't like Bumi but realistically I absolutely loved it because if I was put into position as Bumi, living throughout the 100 years and seeing your best friend who was supposed to save the world turn up out of nowhere, that's how I would react and that's how I would talk to him and show him and try to prove a point.
That wasn't you, that was me...
...and Gran Gran!!😄
Thanks for appreciating Bumi, I think bc of the realistic parts of this show, making him more realistic is too. He would be hurt Aang left, he would be broken and traumatized from 100 years of war. He wouldn’t exactly look like him either, he would look ridiculous if it was 100% exactly like him in the animated show.
Bumi out here looking like count Olaf
Omg, that's who he reminded me of!
They completely missed the point of using Jet, the enigneer, and the cave of love, Aang learned lessons from each of those story lines and in live action he wasnt around for any of it lol, dude they put katara and sokka in the cave of love together, brother and sister LoL COMPLETELY forgetting the relationshol building between Aang and katara, like they went for incest over the proper story line lol, they really butchered all the side stories and lost so much character development. Oh and cave of lovers WAS IN SEASON 2 not season 1.... netflix cant help themselves from ruining time and tested stories... so pathetic.
I was so happy to see they kept secret tunnel! That’s one of my favorite episodes 😊
The beding really looks soo good
the intro cracks me up all the time
The tearbend is real 🥲
Everything about Zuko is so fcking good in this adaptation. Just cut off Aang, Katara and most other characters and give me a show about Zuko and Sokka
As soon as Leaves from the vine plays it gets everyone
Another brilliant episode! That funeral scene was 😢😢😢
I didn't love the remake, but they really nailed Iroh and Zuko
Tears from our eyes,
Come rolling down,
Like little drops of rain,
When we hear the sound,
Avatar fans,
have nothing to defend
Against Uncle Iroh's,
ability to tearbend.
(-read/sing in Uncle Iroh's voice as in Leaves from the Vine)
❤❤❤❤❤
2:10 "You know what, Calvin? S H U T U P."
IM SO SORRY CALVIN BUT I LAUGHED
I get what they're saying about needing to separate the two versions and judge this one on it's own merits but even doing that, the writing is not great in this show for the most part.
There is some good to even great stuff in this like the Lu ten funeral scene or the guard calling out Iroh for his actions as a Fire Nation general but a lot of this show is tell and not show. Sarcastic Chorus has a great (though long) breakdown of the season and hits upon a lot of the issues I had with it myself. Tons of expositioney dialogue, some flat acting (dear god gran-gran's intro speech), character "growth" even though they didn't really do anything to grow, Katara kinda got shafted as a pretty main character.
There's more but I'd have to sit and parse out my thoughts better about it. That said it's not a bad show at all but I think even if I had no prior knowledge of ATLA I would still have most of the same problems with it.
Overall, some good stuff sprinkled in but I'd give it a 5 or 6 out of 10, not bad but a perfectly average show.
Blind wave always has the best intros lMAO
This episode broke me. The first few notes of "Leaves on the Vine" during the funeral scene made be bawl and I kept crying throughout the rest of the episode. I'm really enjoying this adaptation!
Wife new to Avatar:”why are you crying?” Both kids :”it’s leaves on the vine mom!!!!”
Secret Tunnels!!!!
Same spot where Zuko had to make that choice or rescue Zuko that’s perfect.
They were playing leafs from the vine instrumental.
Bumi: you think like a child
Me as aang: fool I’m 12
LOVE THE HAIRCUT CALVIN! 🤍
While I don’t like Bumi’s cynicism bc it doesn’t feel like bumi to me, I agree that this episode really captured the emotion well. Making a point to show the war as not black and white, that there are fire nation citizens against this beyond Iroh, and showing a darker side of Iroh in his responses to acknowledge that he did terrible things as the dragon of the west. That is an amazing touch.
Despite the many many issues I have with this adaptation, I have to say this episode had me with every scene involving iroh
They made Bumi mad at Aang for not being there in this version, but in this version they also made Aang getting trapped in ice something that happened when he went for a walk to clear his head, instead of him running away intentionally. So it's not even his fault but it's being treated as if it's even more his fault than it was in the old version. Both changes clash with each other so harshly, I don't understand why they made them both.
Everything in the live action series feels very surface level to me. It's coasting by on viewers filling in the gaps with their memories of the animated series. Kind of like a What If version of Avatar
Glad I’m not the only one crying at the instrumental Leaves From the Vine.
I swear my generation/anyone who’s watched ATLA is Pavlovian conditioned to start sobbing the moment those chords start. Lol
I was waiting for your reaction to this episode and it didn’t disappoint , just wished you showed the scene of them rejoining the war
Secret Tunnel is such a memorable and oft referenced thing they had to include it in some way, but they couldn't exactly copy it because, in live action, the ages (both generally and relatively to eachother) of Aang and Katara make romance, for the moment at least, kinda creepy. Making it familial love with Katara and Sokka seems like a fair alternative.
Exactly especially with aang being over 100 kinda makes him a pedo
But this was literally season 2. I wish they left it for season 2 with aang and katara
They didn't have to include it at all because it's from S2. It's here for no reason and doesn't really do anything that we didn't already know for Sokka and Katara's relationship. Also this is part of the larger problem of not even bothering to develop Aang and Katara's relationship at all.
@@seventycross0yt175 I never understand this, as Bumi himself says, Aang may be 112 years old, but he hasn’t lived for 112 years. If he were chilling somewhere and aging mentally for 100 years then yeah that’s grounds for calling it creepy, but for him the Airbender genocide was last week. He has not aged for 112 years both physically or mentally
@@phoebusapollo8365 Exactly lol imagine if someone time traveled past their birth. Someone could be born in 1920, travel in 1930 when they are 10 years old to 2000 and they were technically born 80 years ago but they're not 80 years old they are still only 10 years old. Idk why people keep bringing up Aang's age saying it'd be weird when it isn't
Overall, the series is kind of mid, BUT, the Zuko and Iroh moments are probably the show’s only saving grace.
this was the episode that made me completely drop the live action bumi bothered me so much i was quite shocked to see people like the changes to his character, i didn’t even finish the ep and started a rewatch from the king of omashu as a cleanse so hope you guys enjoy the rest i have no clue what’s after this
not every show and movie is for everybody. nothing wrong if you didn't like it
I felt that the cave scene between Aang and Katara was really important in the cartoon, to show how undeveloped the kids are at sharing those kinds of feelings and showing that they DO have those feelings for each other, but it was completely removed here
Not sure how I feel about applying the cave of two lovers to Sokka and Katara. I wish it was still applied to Aang and Katara
Watch the cartoon. Done.
@@VOLGARAPR dude, I said "I wish it was still* applied". The cartoon did it, but I wish this adaptation used it too
Sorry I'm not into forcing in that storyline ... I dont need 12 yr old Aang and Katara kiss or have that awkwardness this early.
I was glad it was not katara and aang.
@@Phoenix-ti6tx how so? I'm open to other opinions
Paul is holding the fort down here and in the Mandoverse. Love it
I wish this show was better
they missed bumi's character by a mile but iroh and zuko are so good
I don't hate Show-Iroh, but I still think they made him too intense, by a lot.
I thought bumi was perfect for what we got we just didn’t get more scenes with him for the jokes side to really show
I honestly like this version more. I never really cared for cartoon Bumi all that much.
Plus, the actor KILLS it.
I understand that sentiment, but personally, Bumi being this bitter makes way more sense to me. I mean if you lived over 100 years and most of those years were in war, you would go a little crazy and be kinda pissed that your friend, who you know could save the world, didnt
I kinda like it it makes it more believable because after a hundred years of war and death I would not want to be friends with a person who still has a silly personality
This is my favorite episode. That Earthbender soldier really acted his heart out on that one. And back to back with the Funeral scene? They cooked.
Leaves From The Vine music gets me every time 😭
Zuko and Iroh had me ugly crying at the funeral scene...
Bumi kept his puns!
Did you notice that Oma and Shu are two women in the show? It is an interesting change that the tv series made to make the show more inclusive.
the intro gets me every time
The problem with splitting up the episodes is they made great episodes just ok in this version
My cabbages!!
EVERY SECOND of Uncle Iroh and Zuko should be shown in these youtube reaction videos
So for a huge ATLA fan that grew up watching it on cable, watching it a few dozen times, and hold it in my heart as a top fave series, I only have one real gripe about the live action series. And that is how much they changed Bumi's personality. I can accept everything else and enjoy it, but his personality change was a huge miss for me. I've accepted it though since as an artistic choice. I am happy they showed some old Bumi in the end.
13:11 - King Bumi’s attitude changes toward Aang seem to be taken from the Fishing Hermit voiced by Ed Asner who accused Aang of running away 100 years before. See book 1 episode 12, The Storm.
5:09 “Aaron this is you if you had too much power”
“I wanna be king so everyone laughs at these jokes!”
😂😂
The first reaction group to hear the song and cry 😭😭 and man I tell you I balled my eyes out
"I think that's my favorite added scene"
2 seconds later another added scene just blows it away.
21:41 - RIP Bor’Dor Dog’son from his guest character 5 episode role on Critical Role!! 😊😢😊
I really like zuko and iroh but it feels odd that iroh life changed so late into his life. Zuko is like 13 in the flashback. So Lu Ten died like 3 years ago?
30:49 Well, in the first episode with airbenders there was a lot of hand-to-hand combat, but I get what you mean, there wasn't a lot of it after that. Maybe in-universe fighting styles changed after 100 years.
Bumi is a good example of the writers not understanding what made the characters special in the first place and is a large indication of how poor the character writing is. Textbook character assassination. They turned him into thr old man from The Storm episode lol.
LMAO I've been looking at your hate comments in the last few days... getting harder and harder for you to get tractions eh. But HEY, it's ok, literally EVERYONE hates this show right?
Btw, good. Bumi wasted a whole couple of days of the Avatar JUST to make a joke and test Aang to see if he can identify him as Bumi. In a cartoon and an 24ish minute episode, fine. It works fine... in a live action series, it would have been cringe and ridiculous. THIS Bumi makes more sense if you don't want a one dimensional character.
"But Bumi is suppose to be like a rock, enduring the century..." Again, sure, in a cartoon... but it doesn't make any sense. This version does. For most people at least lol
@claudegrenier3180 Back for some more punishment as I destroy your arguments? It was one day, so that goes to show how much you even paid attention to the original. The challenges were a lesson in finding creative solutions and is a huge part of Aang's character and Bumi's purpose in waiting and listening for the right moment. Bumi is literally a one dimensional character. He's like every other civilian yelling at him. He's stripped of everything that made him memorable.
You know it doesn't make sense for 112 year olds to be a king and ripped and be able to move rocks right?
I saw many comments from you, what sad life do you habe to hate everything?
1:54 🤣
Interesting that Bumi was a hit or miss. I personally didn’t like the direction they took, but some people seemed to like it
Maybe instead of thinking how Bumi was in the cartoon, try to understand why his live-action was like that. NATLA has human elements and they're at war, Bumi felt anger because he's been fighting a war for a century, a war that in his mind may've been shortened and easier if the Avatar was there to help them, the same Avatar that is also his close friend. Given that feeling of abandonment, it's understable why he is like that. And btw, even in episode one when the showrunners decided to show the genocide and burning a man alive, u shud already have prepared urself that this show is NO longer the cartoon and changes are inevitable.
I didn't dislike him but I think They just picked up the fisherman from episode storm and named him bumi
@@unomiguel017Bumi didn't know Aang was the Avatar
@@unomiguel017sure, I get all that. I understand that it’s a different setting and tone overall. But I honestly didn’t think his arc had a strong reasoning in the first place, it was kind of a sloppy writing IMO. Also the humor didn’t quite work for me. But as I’ve said, totally get it that some people liked it.
So glad to see you guys have been enjoying this show so much. The Iroh scenes were the highlights of this episode. I think the guy that plays him must have felt a lot of pressure in playing this character. I mean to say, Iroh is for most of the fandom the most beloved character. At the same time for most fans Mako's voice will always be Iroh. Looking at those two things this new actor is doing an incredible job in portraying this iconic character. I've got a lot of respect for him. I agree with you guys that on some of the fans responses to this new show. Some fans have never even given this show a fair chance, some even were horrible to some of the child actors, something I will never understood. Like calling some kids "too chubby for the role" I don't get why people should say that, but I guess that is why social media is a toxic place. I can only hope the child actors of this show just don't look too much on social media and read the negativity. You can clearly see that everyone who works on the show is doing the best they can and that they are very passionate about the original show and the story as well.
The show has a lot of problems. Plenty of miscastings. Mai and Ty Lee do not resemble Mai and Ty Lee. Azula was gutted. Bumi is awful. Yue is.... even worse.