Tonal Teamwork: Why you need more than one delay pedal on your board
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- Learn why you absolutely need more than one delay pedal on your pedalboard.
There's a lot of benefits to having at least two delay pedals on your board. Especially if the two delay pedals represent two different delay flavours. If you run a pristine digital delay and a murky warm analog delay at the same time you can conjure some beautiful ambient tones and textures.
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EarthQuaker Devices - Avalanch Run V2 - thepedalzone.c...
Emma Electronic TransMORGrifier Compressor
Empress Effects Reverb
Fairfield Circuitry Meet Maude
Catalinbread - Echorec
TC Ditto Looper Gold
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Fender Deluxe Reverb recorded with an Aston Origin mic
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Reminds me of Cocteau Twins, This Mortal Coil etc.. That's a compliment.
jonas eggen - Some of my favorite bands of all time. So I'll definitely take that as a compliment! Thank you :)
Thank you! You may have saved me from selling my Memory Man.
My pleasure, man. Happy you found the video helpful and inspiring ☺
Don´t sell good gear at all! I stopped playing guitar for about 5 years but i didn´t sell anything so one day i just picked up my explorer, plugged it into my old engl and started playing again.
Also, i mispurchased a Maxon OD808X and it became my favorite Overdrive when i bought a Gretsch half a year later.
A trick I learned from Devin Townsend for lush ambience is to run a relatively short delay into reverb and then into a longer delay. Sounds so nice!
Devin is the man when it comes to great ambient tones!
This channel deserves more subs! Keep at it dude! You're gonna make it!
Awwww. Thanks! Too kind of you ❤ Thanks for believing in the channel!
Great tip Stefan, I really like the way you explained your thought process when designing this tone! I'm looking forward to more Tonal Teamwork episodes
Thank you so much, Eric! Really happy the video was helpful. And I'm looking forward to create more content like this. Thank you very much for watching :)
2 delays = life
Eduardo Pereira - Truth! :)
3 delays
... better than life
Thank you! Received my DD8 Saturday, paired with a SD Vapor Trail, I am very satisfied with my purchase and your explanation on the uses of two delays. Planning to purchase a DD7 for my main board that has a Dunlop Echoplex.! Thanks, I was up and running in minutes. Not doing ambient sound right now. This is killer on rhythm and lead work!
Really beautiful!
Thank you! 😊
This is an old video, but one of my fav things to do is take a delay that has an effects loop built in like a rubberneck, and put a delay on the delays at a different interval.........MAGIC
I do appreciate your channel because you show more than the capabilities of a pedal but great ideas of how to use them. Congrats!
I bought the Meet Maude because of this video.
That’s awesome to hear!
Wow! I am really loving the sounds from that Fairfield pedal. I haven't heard of that company before. Yet another one to check out! :D
Thanks for this video, Stefan! And I am always loving the lush and clear tones you put out, it inspires me to step my game up and dial in some new tones!
Noah McCoy - Awwwww, dude! Thank you so much for your kindness. Keeps me motivated :) And yeah, Fairfield Circuitry make super cool pedals. I promise to make a proper demo of the Meet Maude in the future. It can create some really awesome tones.
Delay stacking is actually pretty badass. Steve Vai does it a lot too. I just tried it the other day. I ran my guitar through my Prophet delay plugged into brand new Boss rv-6. The delay setting on that pedal is amazing and they sounded awesome together. As always, great video!
Happy you're enjoying the wonderful world of delay stacking ☺
This is a great series! Well done.
Thank you very much! 😊
Love these videos! So important to see how a new pedal is going to sound in the chain with others before making a purchase. Long live Tonal Teamwork!
Thank you very much! Happy you enjoy Tonal Teamwork 🙏
Catalinbread belle epoch and diamonds counter point... best conbination ever !!
Two lovely delays for sure ☺
I just bought MXR analog delay deluxe and want to sell the BOSS DD-3. Thanks for the video, I will try it.
I use analog for subtle washy stuff and coloring solos and digital for percussive stuff. Usually don’t use them together.
Great sounds! Honestly your tone is very inspiring.
Jediel Rodriguez - awwwww, man! Thank you so much. Really happy you liked the video and found the idea and tones inspiring. Means the world to me :)
More than one delay? You had me at hello. I run a Pigtronix Echolution Phi, a Source Audio Nemesis and an Alexander Radical.
That Meet Maude definitely creates an analog tape smear when the time is off-set from the Empress. I want to cozy-up in an egg pod with built-in surround sound and live in those repeats.
Everything just becomes more spacious and 3-dimensional when you stack delays.
I see Dirty B.Hinds, I give a thumb up!
Heck yeah!! Thanks, man! Brent is a god!
D B-Hinds and the meat mod
Good video. Like the tones, as always! Time to start fiddling with the dual setting on my DD-500.
Thank you my friend :) I'm not familiar with the DD-500, but it can probably create something similar. Let me know how it fairs :)
Digital delay plus reverb plus memory man. Flerby
That was beautiful 😍
Thank you! Happy you enjoyed it 😊
Top stuff as always,to me the answer is TC Triple Delay it does the job amazingly,and all in one box ;-) I would like the Avalanche too,but it's too pricey imho,maybe one day,keep on mate!
Happy you enjoyed the video, man :)
Very nice.
I go with 3
One pristine dig (DD7)
One dark analog (EQD Disaster Transport Jnr)
One "interesting" delay (atm it's the Binson echorec simulations on my Keeley Dark Side)
At least one of those with tap temo.
Very helpful
Thank you very very much :) Means a lot to me that you found the video inspiring and helpful.
Very cool thanks for sharing 👍
Great Channel, man!
Love to steal ideas from other guitar players -- thanks. I agree, multiple delays are good. Why do I have 2 or 3 delays on my pedalboard? Each effect gives a different sound. I like having at least one analog (like MXR carbon copy or EHX Membory Boy), and at least one modeller (like Line 6 DM4 or TC Electronics Flashback) and possible one more set a different way or a digital delay (such as Boss DD-7). It makes it easy to switch between sounds as needed, either within a song (say to differentiate verse from chorus or lead from rhythm) or between songs, say to have a special effect I use in one song always ready. I might keep one modeller on my "normal" generic delay sound, and use the others for special effects. So I guess the reason is mainly convenience/ease of use onstage (so I dont have to think) and having a number of sounds in my palette.
Sounds gorgeous! Will try this with my synths as well :-)
I run a Catalinbread Echorec into a Caroline Kilobyte into an EQD Space Spiral. And sometimes into the delay of my Red Panda Context :) Delay is my favorite too.
That sounds like 100% winning combinations 😊👌
@@thepedalzone It's definitely fun. I like the Echorec early, and use the Kilobyte to give an analog echo type of sound after.
That was cool. Great sounds and really helpful. :)
i used 4 pedals at the same time runing from my guitar amp with its settings, and the first pedal is the ebs unichorus, its switched on and set, and the second pedal is the ebs dynaverb pedal its switched on and set, to, the last pedal is the dynatone coral echo and delay pedal its set to and switched on, so together i get a really great sound and even the number 6 e string as a good deep reverberating tone to it and clean clear like having a bass guitar playing with the tunes and the verberator gives the number 6 e string the deep reverberation
Definitely
Awesome video again! Can't wait to check out the next team building session haha
Definitely love to feed my Gekko 616 lofi into y chrono delay (yep just like the one on the top shelf ;) )
Thanks, man! Yeah, feeding the Gekko into the Chrono would definitely give you a similar vibe. The Chrono is a great digital delay, by the way. The Empress was just already on my board, so I thought, "hey, it's easier to just use that than having to turn around, lift my ass from the chair, and take down the Chrono from the shelf :D"
very good channel!!!
Thank you very much 😊🙏
Very nice sound! I do something similar with a Catlinbread Belle Epoch (before fuzz) and an Ibanez DE7 (2nd to last) and toss in my new TC Elec T2 occasionally. Gets crazy at times but its fun trying to hone it in with volume swells.
One of the funnest things to do is gets the two times just right so you get those funky rhythms like the dotted 8th.
I'd like to get a nice digital delay next for a third.
Keep these videos up. I like experimentation videos, going past traditional setups.
Really happy you liked the video, man. Means a lot ot me :) And sounds like you got some cool tones going as well with that setup. Can't the Ibanez DE7 cop a nice digital delay? Even though I know where it shines is in its analog emulations :) If you need a killer digital delay, then I recommend you check out the Providence Chrono Delay or the Empress EchoSystem. Utterly amazing delay pedals :)
Thanks for the recommendations. I've heard the Empress quite a bit and like it alot but... real estate. :/ but at this point I'm leaning towards a split board (one for just for fuzz/OD!).
The DE7 does have digital but mine hasn't worked for a few years. :( and there is something that gets lost when using two analog sounds. Haunting for sure but you lose some clarity.
THE PRINCE.
The ambient prince, soon to be king, strikes again :D
I crowned you Prince of Delay, but that's almost the same thing. :P
Actually not. It was the Ambient Prince the first time around, but then you changed it to Delay. It's all fine with me though :)
OH SNAP! My bad.
this guy works for tc!
+AJ Rajan - Worked for TC. Past tense. Not there anymore :)
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Cool video, very explanatory, but... put some more light on those knobs so we can check the settings out! Keep on rocking and cheers!
TheDOCsMashUps 171 - Thank you very much for the kindness and the constructive feedback. I'll make sure to drench the knobs in light the next time around :) And thanks for watching and commenting. Means a lot to me!
And hey, if you have questions about the settings, just ask me. I'll gladly fill in the blanks :)
I love delay pedals. I love delay pedals. I love del
Damn thats cool
Thanks! Happy you liked the video and found it helpful ☺
well i have an avalanche run so i didn't think i'd ever need another delay so while i'm thankful my wallet hates you :D
Before my fuzz I use tc prophet with a very tight slap back ,then in the effects loop I have the DD7+a vintage boss reverb .with the TC before the fuzz it gives a rich octave effect on my solos in high gain,the with the loop activated with volume down on guitar I get a sweet ambiance sound,I love using more than one delay.great videos much appreciated ✌️
I like to run the Kilobyte into a DD-3, or a Malekko 616. Or I'll put the Meteore in front of the Malekko into a Hall of Fame in stereo. I'm looking into the GFI Specular for multi Delay-Reverb.
Sounds like a nice Tonal Teamwork you got going there ;)
ThePedalZone Definitely. Your sounds and enthusiasm, has sparked a new energy. I've played for many, many, years and you've given me ideas for using pedals I have been neglecting.
Awwwww, man! That goes straight to heart
Sounds related to what I’m doing with reverb, where I am running a Caroline Meteore after a Neunaber Wet. They get along really nicely, with the Wet giving more of an ambient vibe and the Meteore almost a spring feel. Each one can be pushed to the outer limits in different ways. I’m still experimenting but for now I’m actually leaving them both on most of the time (subtle settings). My delay is a Greer Black Tiger, which of course is analog-like. I do have a DD7 sitting around the house, and it would probably contribute a lot if I returned it to the board; the problem now is a real estate one-I’m out of space! Btw thank you for yet another great video. Your Meteore video was superb & helped me make the decision to add it to my arsenal!
Bro. Holy shit.
I now know I'm not the only delay freak, and this justifies more unique delay pedals! Please, anyone, feel free to reply with your favorite pedals and/or combos. I seek to endlessly (endlessly..endlessly) learn (learn..learn..learn..).
Haunt fuzz, into carbon copy modulated delay (set as slap back), into dark star pad reverb octive mode one octive up the other down and then play with the second switch on the dark star for a whammy pedal effect on the reverb il send you vidéos if you want, hit me up
@@jeromedutenhaver7942 yeah man send me videos if you have them! I've never played any of the pedals you mention, but am definitely familiar with the Alpha Haunt & Carbon Copy. Dark Star is less familiar. Curious! (Delay time set to 5 months....).
Amazing. Crispy clean genuine delay. Do you have a band you play with?
Check out GFI Clockwork v3 or NativeAudio Wilderness
Years later, all I can think is "that's a lot of pedal from Ottawa" 😂
Yaaaaas! Allll the delays. I run my DOD Rubberneck (analog) set to slightly warble tape sound quarter note division, and then run that into any of the delay sounds on my SA Nemesis set to dotted 8th. When I start looping it’s all clearly audible but I can’t find the end of the beginning.
I have 5 delay pedals on my board! Lol Can't have too many delays. ;)
Ain't that the truth!
I am nuts about delay too
i run mushroom echo -- danelectro wasabi frwrd/rvrsd delay -- TC T2 reverb -- danelectro wasabi rock-a-bye -- danelectro reel echo runnin with TC Alter Ego v2 connected to the mono chain -- endin in TC dittox4 with stereo outputs in 2 amps . very delayish.
Very cool! :)
i currently have two delay pedals and am considering a third...
Natalie s - Hi, my name is Stefan and I'm also a delayoholic :D I currently have 4 delays on my board, and I use them all. You can definitely do some cool stuff with 3. Especially if one of them can do reverse delay :)
ThePedalZone wow 4 delays! there are so many different ones out there. at the moment i hav the tc electronic flashback (the small one) and tc electronic alter ego v2 (also the small version) and im dreaming about getting an old blood noise black fountain because its an oilcan delay sound which is something different.
The Edge used two EHX Memory Man delays for a reason ;^)
He used a lot of gear for a reason 😊
@@thepedalzone Yeah, but he dialed in his signature sound with two pedals at distinctively different times. That's what I was hoping you were featuring since I've forgotten the set up.
I got an echosystem so I'm covered
Well that’s great. It’s a nice feature rich pedal. I have it as well 👍
Wow you sold me into it! I've just got an Echorec, and I'm wondering what would be a good partner for it... A clean digital delay like the EQD Dispatch Master/ Avalanche Run? Or a warm Analog delay like the Micro Dream Delay/Deep Blue Delay? Got any recommendations for me? Thanks for your kindness and keep the videos coming, they're very inspirational!
Thank you very much, man! I would definitely pair it with a more clean and pristine delay like the Avalanche Run. The Echorec can handle all your old school analog-voiced modulated delay duties ☺
ThePedalZone thank you very much!
Good I'm not the only nut around with 5, they each have their own character, so why settle for 1?!
Exactly!
I... love...delay... pedals
Great video and awesome tip!
I'm guessing that delays were in the chain, so in that case does the second delay reproduce the guitar signal together with the repeats from the first delay or is there a way that second delay reproduce only the guitar signal? Without splitting the signal into the let's say two amps?
Thnx a lot man!
Hey Stefan, great video, not seen the Fairfield before. We just posted a video kind of similar but around swells, using the Kilobyte, Bigsky and Timeline tape delay..........similar ethos. Nothing better!
Oldernar Band - Happy you liked it 🙏 Fairfield Meet Maude is amazing. Just has so much mojo!
hey man, another great video. I've got a Strymon El Capistan, I'm looking to pair it with another delay but I cannot decide what kind would sound nice. Do you have any ideas? Thanks!
Hey, man! Good question. Since the El Cap handles all the modulated tape delay really well, which tend to have a bit of high-end roll-off, I would pair it with something a bit crisper and cleaner. Perhaps an EQD Dispatch Master or Avalanche Run. That's just two of my favorites. But a nice clean digital delay should prove to be a perfect partner for the El Cap :)
awesome thanks. i had been looking at the dispatch master for a while now. one is now on the way
Can I run a delay pedal (Boss DD7 - analog mode or whatever) into a second Boss DD7 set on Hold mode so as to give some delay effect to the stuff Im looping? If so, would it allow me to also play riffs or single notes or chords with a delay effect on, when playing these over the looped thing? (Im asking this because there's no delay effect on the Boss DD7 on hold mode).
Yes. You can do that 😊👍
@@thepedalzone awesome! cheers mate and keep up the good work ☺
have you done any videos where you have the Avalanche Run going into Meet Maude?
No, I don't. But I have one where the Meet Maude goes into the Avalanche Run. But the sounds you'd get would be very similar to the ones in the video here you've just watched. But check out this one as well. Some really cool ideas and sounds in it: th-cam.com/video/ik4HmWtOEWQ/w-d-xo.html
But what if you add the wah wah pedal to the two delay and reverb pedals?
Then you're in for a good time :)
Your amp is completely without any noise or hum, how do you manage that Stefan??
Clean power in your room, a great power supply for your pedals and some guitar shielding. That's it :)
Hi Stefan, do you find digital into analog or analog into digital delay is preferable?
There's no rules here. All depends on personal preference. I tend to like shorter modulated delays into longer delays, hence I prefer analog into digital, as shown in the video ☺
Hi, have you tried Tc Electronic Flashback Triple Delay?
Yes, I used to own one. Actually used to work there 😉
@@thepedalzone Found you :) th-cam.com/video/7WgXDhphyZg/w-d-xo.html
Lush sound with two delay pedals.
Cheers! yeah, it really creates this lush cascading dreamy ambience that's a treat to get lost in.
Who is WE? You're alone there, aren't you? Which is no problem at all, but then don't talk like you're an enterprise.
We = You and Me, my friend ❤️ Thanks for watching!
Wouldn't it be Meet MAUDE, not MEET Maude?
Maybe 😊
That "Tape like delay" is bringing repeats out of tune. Anyone else hear that?
Yeah, there's modulation on the delay trails. So that's why you're hearing the pitch fluctuate slightly
almost 2 minutes before he strums a string, got bored and left.
Thanks for giving it a go though! Have a great day ❤️