The deep intelligence of Sony engineers and their experience in the field of cameras makes most people not understand these many features and they are not appreciated. This is the smartest camera in a phone that I have seen in my life . Steve Jobs was a fan of Sony cameras, and I remember that Steve Jobs used to visit Sony factories and meet senior Sony engineers with the aim of improving iPhone cameras, and let's not forget also that Tim Cook also went there to see the new Sony sensors ..It's a shame that Sony is underestimated because of some TH-camr who throws bad words about Sony cameras because he likes another product or doesn't know how to use this camera.
You always come through. I love the diss toward some of these "reviewers." This phone gives a photographer every option they could need to make a photo they want. I love it.
@@SomeGadgetGuy exactly. We are on the 5th generation of this device and Sony has only added more camera features. But from a basic platform, they have expanded since the mark I. I see these reviewers every year giving basically the same reviews and doing "camera tests" in full auto all the time. It's just pointless to me. They know it's a niche phone, yet they treat it like a pixel, iphone, or galaxy. Either way, I'm happy there are a few niche reviewers who actually review these devices to their fullest extent
On my 1 iii, I spend most of my time in Shutter Speed Priority. I really value how Sony continues to provide additional input modes. I'll probably get the Xperia 1 Mk 6 or 7.
Their camera apps are so much easier and intuitive to use than camera apps found on other smart phones. How are the raws on the V compared to raws on the IV? It would be great to see a comparison video.
I like the style of presentation in this video! Very informative and easy to understand. Great content Juan. I'm wondering if I should upgrade from my Mark II. 🤔
I had been intimidated for a while to shoot any kind of content and had been forcing myself to use manual mode the entire time. Im gonna try and shoot more stuff in auto to see how it comes out. Thank you again for covering Sony phones. I probably wouldnt have my 1 iii without your videos
The object tracking of Xperias has improved a lot in the past 4 years. The focus of my old OG Xperia 1 starts to wonder immediately after locking on to an object, but these new models just lock on to the target.
It's so important to show how you can still have extra control without needing to everything also... Thanks for always making solid videos on these features...
I'm saving money to purchase this phone once it releases in my country and I'd just like to say a massive THANK YOU for providing such detailed information on what the phone is capable of through your videos. They've been a tremendous help in my decision making process 👍👍
Sony is build for pro photographers not for rookies who know nothing about cameras. Those who don't know what they're doing comes to make a silly review about sony cause they don't know how to go about the settings. Only your review and some other people's review i like. Keep it up 👍
Good job, dude!The Xperia software of the mark v is made for everybody.Again, I am so impressed of what they done with the camera and the nice features around it.
Juan. I haven't even gotten through the whole video yet and I am blown away. I haven't purchased an Xperia yet, but am considering one and this is so helpful to understanding the commentary about the camera apps. It gives the controls I am used on our DSLR camera. Thanks again and reminds me why I patreon!
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best xperia 1 review by FAR! thanks, is really a different perspective, better informed. I learned a lot here.
This camera app is what I´d love to use on my Fairphone 4! The Open Camera app is good, offers a lot of settings (certainly more than the stock camera app - even in Pro mode).
Once upon a time, anyone who wanted to take a picture of grandma at her birthday party had to know what iso and shutter speed were. Now we're heading straight into the jaws of dystopia where we'll need an AI assistant to sing happy birthday. I think every reviewer who criticized Photo Pro app for its complexity contributed to this bright future.
Excellent explained how too use all 3 camera app specially for newcomers and you are some of the few reviewers that thrustworty i have seen alot of review from other you tubers and they only take take pictures in basic and then they compaire it with the 1V without mention the other options you have on 1V . Point and shoot can make you very lazy and it is mostly boring . Thats why i bourgth the Xperia 1V this phone is a joy to use thanks for the great video and keep up the good work .
What I really like about this video is the tone of voice that's very engaging, almost soothing if I were to read the manual on how to use this phone. I'm glad it's not bashing the brand as a niche product pointing out all of the marketing and consumerism inefficiencies. Thank you. 🙏🏾
I'm so happy they brought seamless zoom. (could be smoother but it's fine) That was one weird thing I didn't like about the last phone - you had to pick your lens before shooting "like a _real_ camera." But that's whats cool about a phone as opposed to a dslr, I don't have to "switch lenses." They are all there and should be able to all go at once if I really want. It opens up more possibilities - my LG V30 had a mode that shot with the selfie cam in the corner of the frame, so you can do a vlog style video right from the camera app itself.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Yes, and it really makes you think about something you alluded to: how much do they really know tech if they shy away from it? How much do they know photography (a big feature in today's phones) if they brush off powerful features? 🤔
@@myfakeguuglaccount8307 That's why I don't fully trust popular tech channels. Just because they have millions of subs doesn't mean they actually know what they are talking about.
In less than a month, the xSperia 1 Mark 5 has became the standard for photography and videography. I saw all the videos here on YT criticising Sony for the excessively complex camera app; I've been a professional photographer in the film era, and the Mark 5 has been the first phone where I have the possibility to use all the experience I have as photographer. I can only imagine why non-professionals are calling for a dumbed-down experience - like the Apple-Samsung-Google photo app provides to casual users. Well done, Sony...
Im considering upgrading to this from my Xiaomi Mi 11 ultra. I newer really understood all the comments about the need to use the manual mode on the Xperia, to make it realy great. Because every tine i try to make exposure changes on my Xiaomi. The hdr and wide dynamic range kicks in, and makes the changes almost unnoticeable. I can see that you can adjust the level of hdr/dynamic range on the Xperia, which I find very useful.
Yeah bro, try to learn what is the exposure ( mixed of iso, shutter speed and apperture ) but the apperture in sony camera is not variable yet, it is still in fixed apperture... So by understanding this exposure you sure will get the best photos from sony that can beat all of the noobies auto photos phonr out there hehe😁.. goodluck
Hello Juan! Do you know if Sony will update their phone updates like the security patches? Haven't had a Sony phone in a while. Thank you! As always, you give great and informative videos! 😊
With Filmic going subscription, it's nice to have the option of a phone with similar levels of control (though still not exactly there with color and exposure granularity in shot) and similar features like focus peaking and racking, better mated and optimized to the hardware. It still irks me how any company can give you a video mode where you CANNOT tap to focus or expose for fully a third of your frame and think that's job done. Almost ANY aftermarket solution is better. But they often don't have access to the full range of resolutions and frame rates of the phone. Sony is doing it right.
It's such a shame that the Android camera API is still such a mess. Hoping we see improvements to apps like MotionCam, but Google has to lead that development.
Thank you so much for this detailed review. I'm now more than convinced to buy the Xperia 5v when it comes out. These Sony phones are amazing. You really did Sony big time justice & they should reward you with some sort of collaboration/partnership because you're doing better work than their marketing department. All these other youtubers were just doing the easy way out & saying these phones aren't good & too pricey. Too pricey I can agree there, but not good, i don't agree
Absolutely fantastic video and break down. I really have no patience or time anymore for TH-cam "tech reviewers" who act like they just can't figure out the camera system. Or they literally are incapable of doing so. As you say they are simply displaying that they are not good at either photography or tech. I'm no tech guru by any stretch if the imagination and I figured out the Xperia camera system after a few hours of playing around with it. Far too many TH-cam "tech reviewers" literally don't know how anything works outside of an iphone. But that just means they know nothing. And are thus a waste of my time. Why on earth would I take photography advice about any device from someone that only knows how an iphone works? That would be like me getting advice on high performance cars from someone that only knows Volkswagen cars. Just utterly asinine.
It kills me every time one of them complains about something basic on an XPERIA, but then shows off their cinema grade mirrorless camera to shoot CRISPY b-roll... K... 🙄
@@SomeGadgetGuy great point. Not only do most of them film their videos on mirrorless cameras.....they do so on Sony Alpha cameras!. So it's even more baffling. But imho it's by design. I believe they have a financial incentive to essentially do FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) marketing on other brands that are not Apple or Samsung. They did this all the time with LG phones too...
The downside of having three separate apps is that it consume more internal storage space than a single Camera app. However, the upside to it is that each app can be perfectly tailored to its intention. If I want 21:9 4K, I go CinemaPro. If I want 16:9 4K, I use VideoPro. If I want Alpha-grade manual control, I use PhotoPro. Of course you can cram everything into the single Camera app, but it can end up being all cluttered and messy.
Xiaomi 13 Ultra vs Xperia 1V -- Let's have a one hour comparison video of both going head to head in all areas. That should be a seriously fun video to watch. 😄😁
Great run through. Thanks 👍 I can see that the apps have been updated quite a bit since my Xperia 5ii, and in ways that really make a difference. So looking forward to take delivery of my 1V soon 😁 Fingers crossed.
One Question I have about the Sony 1V that nobody seems to answer ist, that it says it has a 48megapixel main camera, but does bin down to 12mp. So can't I take 48 Megapixel photos? It would be important, for example, if I got to a museum, and take a picture of a painting, its very handy if I can still read the little badge about the painter etc on it. Currently I am using my xz1 (since 2017), and it has 19mp, but often I can barely read the text, when the paintings become bigger and I have to go aways. Its meant as a mental note for me. Also, does the 1V have a feature where I can still have a on-Screen shutter button in the pro mode in landscape view? Its not that I would use it anyways, the physical Shutter button is my to go USP for the sony anyways, but If you hand somebody the phone they are probably too stupid to take the photo (Had this often with the XZ1 too, when It would decativate the camera after a few seconds). Does the pressing of the Shutterbutton with the phone in Stand-By still bring my straight to the camera? That would be very important to me, because I always liked going straight to the camera for a quick shot, without fiddling through the login.
I like your playful scolding of other smartphone TH-camrs that just dismiss these phones to feed their audiences essentially the same smartphones each year. It's comical how bad they are with cameras and seeing their results most of the time is sad. Someone has to teach them a few things.
Also, I have to mention in a separate comment how much Sony listens compared to other manufacturers. People wanted a UI that rotates. They added that. And not only that, they also made it so that the digital shutter button appears in portrait mode, which is great for intervalometer apps and something I personally could REALLY use. People, especially Xperia fans themselves, really wanted a new sensor because the old main one was getting old and Sony not only gave us a bigger one, but a hardware-level, never before seen upgrade that doesn't require software magic to deliver in low light and naturally has both a wider dynamic range and low noise even in RAWs. People were asking for focus peaking. They added that. People wanted a night mode. They added that. They increased the burst mode to 30 freaking fps, which no other phone is able to do, not even close. I, as a 5 III owner, wished I had the ability to use the burst mode for HDR photos and now that's possible. The new sensor is capable of real low ISOs, down to 25, which is incredible for bright light shooting conditions or even daylight long exposures, which is something I wish I had and is incredibly hard to do on smartphones without the use of an external ND filter. Everybody was asking for more video options in photo pro and they've once again delivered, offering a few more settings than the competition even. They ported over an already-color corrected profile from their alpha cameras, which means you no longer need to grade and convert your HDR footage if you don't want to. I know I was screaming about something like this and it's here now. People complained up to the III series phones about the glossy back and the lack of grip, so Sony made Xperia backs frosty with the IV phones and then gave them the Pro-I's wired frame design as well as this dotted back. And on top of all of this, their volume buttons act as zoom buttons right from the get go. This is how you can tell a phone knows how to be a good photography phone. Even before I knew this much about photography I was always very annoyed at the fact that all phone brands think volume buttons should be shutter buttons. There's 2 things Sony should do now: 1) Add exposure zebras to complete the helpful camera UI elements. 2) Include the multiple-frame-merging feature their alpha cameras have so that you can see your subject in pitch black conditions. This would be a huge revolution in the smartphone space.
I'm far from a photographic expert, but everything you outlined here looks very approachable and not intimidating. If anything, I find the menu structure in typical android photo apps to be less clear than the Sony. I wouldn't hesitate to get this phone if it were available in my country.
I think it's fair to be concerned about what someone is familiar with. If you've only ever shot on iPhones, then a camera app like this is REALLY unfamiliar. But if you've ever handled a mirrorless or an SLR (or if you're old enough like me to have shot on film) then this is REALLY accessible.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I agree with that, Juan. But I've never used an SLR or mirrorless camera in my life, and I found your explanation of the various layers of control on the Sony 1 mk V made a lot of sense to me, rather than being intimidating. It seems more organised than what I have on my Samsung. My Samsung confuses the heck out of me because the menu structure has too many rabbit holes and it's easy to forget where everything is, plus you can't see what you changed and whether it's still changed, or whether it reverted to the standard settings. The end result for me is that I rarely use anything beyond the top layer of auto mode. On the Sony, along with your guidance on this video, I feel that I would have no trouble exploring the different controls and parameters as my photographic expertise grew. I feel it's designed to grow your understanding of photography rather than intimidate you - which is what Android tends to do.
There I agree. A sony is built to be more like a camera, and it's not trying to cater to ALL consumers in that regard. I think engineers at Samsung think they have to make an app for both iPhone users (who will likely never switch to an Android) AND include all the settings for a photographer more familiar with manual modes, and it kinda makes a mess. Some do this better than others. Vivo and Xiaomi apps are also SUPER messy, but I feel they're a bit more accessible at sorting the more pro features. For a Samsung user, I'd recommend digging more into the expert pro mode. Samsung split off a separate RAW mode to shoot in, and I think it's a bit better. Not Sony level, but less "smartphone-y".
I get that a simple point and shoot experience is easier but I don't get why people say Sony camera apps is convoluted. Did people forget learning exist? Obviously there's the simple camera app for everybody else to use. Ofc the debate between cameras and phones exist but nobody would bring a kilogram worth of cameras every time. But having similar controls to a camera is very useful especially when you want to adjust a setting or two. Would've been nice if they can add it to their apps like any others do but it may cause some unnecessary changes. It's a learning curve but it will help you get used to camera terms and settings when you do go cameras.
I can understand a consumer being intimidated, but I find it REALLY problematic when reviewers complain. Those same reviewers that shoot CRISPY b-roll from their cinema mirrorless cameras.
@@SomeGadgetGuy that's another fair point there. They can create great cinematography but can't on the same but smaller platform? I know it's a smartphone but it's basically a camera in a phone. How is it any different from other camera phones like the Xiaomi 13 Ultra or the Vivo X90 Pro Plus. It's basically those two without too much computational photography. Instead of the phone taking over, you are the driver. You set destination, you set your gears and your off to your destination. But all people want is a free ride. I'm not saying the Xperia is a perfect phone but if they really want to review this as another generic device, what exactly are they telling their customers?
You are such a sincere and such a pro reviewer of Xperia and for that lots of cheers! Profound appreciation! But... There is a lame but... Sony is avoiding contact with users that are not on YT, and they create content for themselves. The issues tested and send to them by e-mails were rarely understood or fixed. For example, as a Xperia 1mk4 user, even with all software upgrades (64.1.A.0.891) the device is still having issues with the worst bokeh integration ever for a front camera in a smartphone, and much cheaper Xperia like Ace III (~ $100 new) have the front camera Api2 manual active (better even), while 1mk4 (1/5 devices) do not. The 1s shutter speed mode at 64-200 ISO manual set, results with burned pixels in the photo! Who to solve it if not Sony's engineers that now are avoiding fixing or answering to e-mails, saying the device is on par with what it is meant to be? So please check these too and send to Sony these essential issues to be fixed for such $1500+ devices (for 1mk4 too). You can help users that are not listened by Sony, BIG TIME! Thank you so much for all your work!
Thank you for sharing and creating this video. In my view this is probably the closest a phone has come to making 1 inch point and shoot cameras useless. It is so versatile by the looks of it. Seems like a zv1 in a phone body with better specs and it can act as a monitor, recording studio, a or B-roll camera and youtube talking head camera. How does the battery perform when shooting video or editing them?
Could you do a detailed comparison of the different Video Pro SDR/HDR color modes? I would love to see how the HLG/BT.2020 holds up when when color grading in Resolve and if it's true 10bit footage. I feel like nobody else seems to care about that, but I would find it really interesting to find out if one can make it look like an alpha camera shooting SLOG3!!!
As a Sony shooter im very familiar with the layout on this phone(A6400 & A7 IV). I use a pixel and sometimes i use manual camera . But honestly for photos i find that the three sliders google provide in camera is all i need and faster to set.
Great overview on the ui and functionality. Just wondering if it is possible to record video or take photo with all three cameras at once? Is there any app for that?
Love your work and attitude. I havent been so much i CP and sees that i get what i wanted in the basic video. My 1iii are still more than i need and its a phone that keeps deliver and learn you more. And its not hard to shoot a good photo. Its just more fun. 1 v seems to be more for shooting films. For now im not so sure if i will buy the 1v or if i have to. Great work!
Good afternoon, I am also a photographer and videographer. Say please? Which is better for photos and videos: SONY XPERIA PRO-I or the new SONY XPERIA 1V, 5V models, please advise, tell me which one to take? Thank you very much in advance!
I feel you. Have 5ii too and i love it but when I saw that Mark V resolved heating issue, has night mode and focus peeking, man, I'm sold... Still thinking if I should wait for 5V but this time, maybe I'll try 1V.
I just want to point out. Heating issues aren't a binary situation. It's not "fixed" or "broken". We really need to describe what the limits are, and how to get the best out of every phone. EVERY phone will run hot and thermal throttle if you use every feature (screen, SOC, battery, 5G radio, camera) to it's max all at once, especially in warm weather. What we SHOULD be talking about, what ARE the limits so people know better what they can really count on in the field. If you want the features of a Sony, a 1IV might be a good buy if you can get one for a good price now. It's not "broken", I shoot A LOT of 4K120 on mine. But i do have to babysit it more than the 1V.
I have had the 5 iii for a little over a year now. The apps are still very similar but I do notice the differences. The only thing I feel like I’m missing is the video pro app from the 4:th gen xperia series. That alone won’t however get me to upgrade, I’ll probably keep my current phone until it dies.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I think we have to be realistic regarding overheating in smartphones. Dedicated cameras can overheat when shooting 4K so it's not surprising that smartphones overheat more quickly with their slim dimensions. I think the Xperias may have set their thermal limit a little lower than other brands to protect battery health. Engineering compromises always have to be made and each brand has their preferences.
I pretty much only shoot in the expert raw app on my S24 ultra, it feels wrong to shoot in auto for me lol. I would love to use an Xperia 1 mark 5! Seems like a great system.
Hi Juan. Thanks for your content. It's always interesting to see your take on tech which can be different to other reviewers. I'm seriously considering the Xperia 1 V. I wonder if you could help with an answer to a question that Sony's chat helpline couldn't answer for me. Does the phone have a bokeh mode in for video? I can see from online info that in the Photography Pro app's Basic mode, there is a Bokeh Mode icon when you have the Photo option selected. However, when you select the Video option in this same area, I think the Bokeh Mode option disappears - i.e. no Bokeh Mode in video. Are you able to confirm or otherwise?
SUPER basic. There is a bokeh video mode in 1080p but not 4K, and it only ONLY seems to work with face detection. You can't set it on another focus point. I'm probably NEVER going to use this given the natural focus fall off of the larger main sensor. Would have been nice to have on the tele lens tho.
Thanks for that. It's a shame, but not a surprise. If anything, and in a way, I'm surprised they have any video bokeh mode at all given the absolute radio silence on the subject from their marketing. On the other hand, if they made a fuss about it, they would probably get shot down for its' limitations. I can't help thinking that improvements in bokeh modes should be the top priority for camera development in phones. Accepting the increases in sensor sizes, bokeh still seems to be the biggest weakness of camera phones compared to dedicated cameras. Given the physics of small sensors and the space limitations of phones, computational processing seems like the only option. Camera phones already seem to be making strides in their other natural weakness, low light conditions, and I'm sure further improvements will come. Talking of which, the Xperia 1 V seems to be getting very positive reviews of its' daylight performance (both photo & video), reasonably positive reviews of the new Night Mode for photos, but seems to be regarded as a bit weaker for video in low light, and to have a generally lower dynamic range (but conversely less noise and artifacts) than its' more computational competitors. Having used it yourself, do you agree with that, or do you have a different experience? As always interested in your take.
It's tough to do a fair comparison without REALLY digging into NERDCORE tech. Like, critiquing dynamic range. It's a red flag to hear someone complain about "lower" d-range, but with less noise. How is that person measuring and comparing? What modes are they shooting in (where HLG vs s-cine can make a HUGE difference in grading)? Are they mentioning native ISO (where the Sony can also slide down to a crazy low iso25)? I'm honestly not sure how I would fairly grade sensor performance at comparable "noise". Would that give the Sony a stop or two advantage in video quality? There are a LOT of moving parts in a conversation like this, and it's REALLY not as easy as "I shot two clips, and this one has the better colors!"
Thanks - been a while since I used a 'proper' camera, so useful to get a quick run down. Have been baselining with what it can do in basic modes, but might get adventurous with some video tomorrow. Wish me luck ;-)
Please mention what it misses out on when compared to an actual alpha camera/ or any mirrorless camera. I am pretty sure it is not the full alpha experience. For a start i know the Xperia doesnt have custom picture profiles, to adjust contrast, saturation and sharpness of the video or photos. Also what is the bitrate of the videos for different resolutions and framerates? Does it shoot 10 bit video? No one talks about these, please cover these in your full review.
Thanks for this video! I’m more of a pro sports photographer and I’m thinking of getting this phone. Have done any videos on using this camera with like and a74 or A1? Or any Alpha cameras between these models.
See this video in 4K on Patreon! www.patreon.com/posts/sony-xperia-1-v-83117772
Really well done, as a user I am very grateful. Really well done you have a subscription. And I’ll share the video, of course.
The deep intelligence of Sony engineers and their experience in the field of cameras makes most people not understand these many features and they are not appreciated. This is the smartest camera in a phone that I have seen in my life . Steve Jobs was a fan of Sony cameras, and I remember that Steve Jobs used to visit Sony factories and meet senior Sony engineers with the aim of improving iPhone cameras, and let's not forget also that Tim Cook also went there to see the new Sony sensors ..It's a shame that Sony is underestimated because of some TH-camr who throws bad words about Sony cameras because he likes another product or doesn't know how to use this camera.
Sony phones, teaching people how to compose their photography and videography
Really..👍👍
You always come through. I love the diss toward some of these "reviewers." This phone gives a photographer every option they could need to make a photo they want. I love it.
For consumers, I think it's fair to point out the ways this will be intimidating or unfamiliar. Reviewers should know better though.
@@SomeGadgetGuy exactly. We are on the 5th generation of this device and Sony has only added more camera features. But from a basic platform, they have expanded since the mark I. I see these reviewers every year giving basically the same reviews and doing "camera tests" in full auto all the time. It's just pointless to me. They know it's a niche phone, yet they treat it like a pixel, iphone, or galaxy. Either way, I'm happy there are a few niche reviewers who actually review these devices to their fullest extent
Well, Xperia is just like a subaru, if you know nothing about cars, just go to buy a tesla. 🤣
On my 1 iii, I spend most of my time in Shutter Speed Priority. I really value how Sony continues to provide additional input modes. I'll probably get the Xperia 1 Mk 6 or 7.
Their camera apps are so much easier and intuitive to use than camera apps found on other smart phones. How are the raws on the V compared to raws on the IV? It would be great to see a comparison video.
Bruh... So nice...
Both are damn good. V is slightly better due to more advanced sensor
I like the style of presentation in this video! Very informative and easy to understand. Great content Juan. I'm wondering if I should upgrade from my Mark II. 🤔
I had been intimidated for a while to shoot any kind of content and had been forcing myself to use manual mode the entire time. Im gonna try and shoot more stuff in auto to see how it comes out. Thank you again for covering Sony phones. I probably wouldnt have my 1 iii without your videos
The object tracking of Xperias has improved a lot in the past 4 years. The focus of my old OG Xperia 1 starts to wonder immediately after locking on to an object, but these new models just lock on to the target.
It's so important to show how you can still have extra control without needing to everything also... Thanks for always making solid videos on these features...
I'm saving money to purchase this phone once it releases in my country and I'd just like to say a massive THANK YOU for providing such detailed information on what the phone is capable of through your videos. They've been a tremendous help in my decision making process 👍👍
Sony is build for pro photographers not for rookies who know nothing about cameras. Those who don't know what they're doing comes to make a silly review about sony cause they don't know how to go about the settings. Only your review and some other people's review i like. Keep it up 👍
Good job, dude!The Xperia software of the mark v is made for everybody.Again, I am so impressed of what they done with the camera and the nice features around it.
Juan. I haven't even gotten through the whole video yet and I am blown away. I haven't purchased an Xperia yet, but am considering one and this is so helpful to understanding the commentary about the camera apps. It gives the controls I am used on our DSLR camera.
Thanks again and reminds me why I patreon!
best xperia 1 review by FAR! thanks, is really a different perspective, better informed. I learned a lot here.
Thank you for this video. Most reviewers basically go "It's not exactly like the Camera App on iPhone, therefore it's bad"
And those same reviewers complain about tech being "boring"...
This camera app is what I´d love to use on my Fairphone 4! The Open Camera app is good, offers a lot of settings (certainly more than the stock camera app - even in Pro mode).
I love this gentle music + calm narration combo. Super soothing to watch ❤
This type of versatility in a smartphone camera should be celebrated. Its more nuanced on purpose 🎉👌🏿
Once upon a time, anyone who wanted to take a picture of grandma at her birthday party had to know what iso and shutter speed were. Now we're heading straight into the jaws of dystopia where we'll need an AI assistant to sing happy birthday. I think every reviewer who criticized Photo Pro app for its complexity contributed to this bright future.
Great to see consumers being given the freedom to use the phone in a way they want to rather than being dictated to. Win for Sony imho
Thank you for getting insights on this photo and videos which others have superficially covered with little to no knowledge.
Excellent explained how too use all 3 camera app specially for newcomers and you are some of the few reviewers that thrustworty i have seen alot of review from other you tubers and they only take take pictures in basic and then they compaire it with the 1V without mention the other options you have on 1V . Point and shoot can make you very lazy and it is mostly boring . Thats why i bourgth the Xperia 1V this phone is a joy to use thanks for the great video and keep up the good work .
What I really like about this video is the tone of voice that's very engaging, almost soothing if I were to read the manual on how to use this phone. I'm glad it's not bashing the brand as a niche product pointing out all of the marketing and consumerism inefficiencies.
Thank you. 🙏🏾
I'm so happy they brought seamless zoom. (could be smoother but it's fine) That was one weird thing I didn't like about the last phone - you had to pick your lens before shooting "like a _real_ camera."
But that's whats cool about a phone as opposed to a dslr, I don't have to "switch lenses." They are all there and should be able to all go at once if I really want.
It opens up more possibilities - my LG V30 had a mode that shot with the selfie cam in the corner of the frame, so you can do a vlog style video right from the camera app itself.
I am digging video pro and thank you again sony for s-cinetone. I will live in this profile. Thanks for the video this Sony is so good.
Videography Pro is so so good.
@@GroundedTech It is, wow.
I'm glad you've been delving into this phone. Nobody else seems interested in more than a cursory review.
Shame isn't it...
@@SomeGadgetGuy Yes, and it really makes you think about something you alluded to: how much do they really know tech if they shy away from it? How much do they know photography (a big feature in today's phones) if they brush off powerful features? 🤔
@@myfakeguuglaccount8307 That's why I don't fully trust popular tech channels. Just because they have millions of subs doesn't mean they actually know what they are talking about.
These interfaces are dream-like for a phone videographer like me 👏🏼🤩
Xperia carrying the LG V series torch for media nerds.
My heart. Every day I miss LG. Sony is REALLY picking up that slack.
Always appreciate your take, Juan. I'm getting so excited to try out this phone!
Wish sony implement variable aperture in their upcoming flagship like Pro-I which so important in manual photography
This was a great video, thanks. Every new 1 V video is causing me to flip on whether I will buy this phone. This video definitely helped.
In less than a month, the xSperia 1 Mark 5 has became the standard for photography and videography.
I saw all the videos here on YT criticising Sony for the excessively complex camera app; I've been a professional photographer in the film era, and the Mark 5 has been the first phone where I have the possibility to use all the experience I have as photographer. I can only imagine why non-professionals are calling for a dumbed-down experience - like the Apple-Samsung-Google photo app provides to casual users.
Well done, Sony...
Because the normal people havent time for learning...Just Shot and Go. 😮
Great tour, great arguments why to get it. One question, did they also finally add 16:9 in Cinema Pro or is it still just 21:9?
The more I see of this phone, the more sure I am of it being my next device.
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Im considering upgrading to this from my Xiaomi Mi 11 ultra. I newer really understood all the comments about the need to use the manual mode on the Xperia, to make it realy great. Because every tine i try to make exposure changes on my Xiaomi. The hdr and wide dynamic range kicks in, and makes the changes almost unnoticeable. I can see that you can adjust the level of hdr/dynamic range on the Xperia, which I find very useful.
Yeah bro, try to learn what is the exposure ( mixed of iso, shutter speed and apperture ) but the apperture in sony camera is not variable yet, it is still in fixed apperture... So by understanding this exposure you sure will get the best photos from sony that can beat all of the noobies auto photos phonr out there hehe😁.. goodluck
Hello Juan! Do you know if Sony will update their phone updates like the security patches? Haven't had a Sony phone in a while. Thank you! As always, you give great and informative videos! 😊
Best Xperia 1V tutorial I have found! 👍💯
With Filmic going subscription, it's nice to have the option of a phone with similar levels of control (though still not exactly there with color and exposure granularity in shot) and similar features like focus peaking and racking, better mated and optimized to the hardware.
It still irks me how any company can give you a video mode where you CANNOT tap to focus or expose for fully a third of your frame and think that's job done. Almost ANY aftermarket solution is better. But they often don't have access to the full range of resolutions and frame rates of the phone.
Sony is doing it right.
It's such a shame that the Android camera API is still such a mess. Hoping we see improvements to apps like MotionCam, but Google has to lead that development.
Thank you so much for this detailed review. I'm now more than convinced to buy the Xperia 5v when it comes out. These Sony phones are amazing. You really did Sony big time justice & they should reward you with some sort of collaboration/partnership because you're doing better work than their marketing department. All these other youtubers were just doing the easy way out & saying these phones aren't good & too pricey. Too pricey I can agree there, but not good, i don't agree
Absolutely fantastic video and break down. I really have no patience or time anymore for TH-cam "tech reviewers" who act like they just can't figure out the camera system. Or they literally are incapable of doing so. As you say they are simply displaying that they are not good at either photography or tech. I'm no tech guru by any stretch if the imagination and I figured out the Xperia camera system after a few hours of playing around with it.
Far too many TH-cam "tech reviewers" literally don't know how anything works outside of an iphone. But that just means they know nothing. And are thus a waste of my time. Why on earth would I take photography advice about any device from someone that only knows how an iphone works? That would be like me getting advice on high performance cars from someone that only knows Volkswagen cars. Just utterly asinine.
It kills me every time one of them complains about something basic on an XPERIA, but then shows off their cinema grade mirrorless camera to shoot CRISPY b-roll... K... 🙄
@@SomeGadgetGuy great point. Not only do most of them film their videos on mirrorless cameras.....they do so on Sony Alpha cameras!. So it's even more baffling. But imho it's by design. I believe they have a financial incentive to essentially do FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) marketing on other brands that are not Apple or Samsung. They did this all the time with LG phones too...
@@Sabundy They are paid tech reviewers aka salesman
@@The-Heart-Will-Testify exactly. That is the issue right there.
The downside of having three separate apps is that it consume more internal storage space than a single Camera app. However, the upside to it is that each app can be perfectly tailored to its intention. If I want 21:9 4K, I go CinemaPro. If I want 16:9 4K, I use VideoPro. If I want Alpha-grade manual control, I use PhotoPro. Of course you can cram everything into the single Camera app, but it can end up being all cluttered and messy.
SD card expansion would solve that problem... Oh wait, it has that!
Now imagine one UI space
Juan sounds sooooooooo calm and soothing ❤
This video is just as amazing as unique as xperia 1 mark 5
So good and well explained 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Xiaomi 13 Ultra vs Xperia 1V -- Let's have a one hour comparison video of both going head to head in all areas. That should be a seriously fun video to watch. 😄😁
Loving the educational walkthrough
Great run through. Thanks 👍 I can see that the apps have been updated quite a bit since my Xperia 5ii, and in ways that really make a difference. So looking forward to take delivery of my 1V soon 😁 Fingers crossed.
Can not wait mine comes tuesday
One Question I have about the Sony 1V that nobody seems to answer ist, that it says it has a 48megapixel main camera, but does bin down to 12mp. So can't I take 48 Megapixel photos? It would be important, for example, if I got to a museum, and take a picture of a painting, its very handy if I can still read the little badge about the painter etc on it. Currently I am using my xz1 (since 2017), and it has 19mp, but often I can barely read the text, when the paintings become bigger and I have to go aways. Its meant as a mental note for me. Also, does the 1V have a feature where I can still have a on-Screen shutter button in the pro mode in landscape view? Its not that I would use it anyways, the physical Shutter button is my to go USP for the sony anyways, but If you hand somebody the phone they are probably too stupid to take the photo (Had this often with the XZ1 too, when It would decativate the camera after a few seconds). Does the pressing of the Shutterbutton with the phone in Stand-By still bring my straight to the camera? That would be very important to me, because I always liked going straight to the camera for a quick shot, without fiddling through the login.
I like your playful scolding of other smartphone TH-camrs that just dismiss these phones to feed their audiences essentially the same smartphones each year.
It's comical how bad they are with cameras and seeing their results most of the time is sad. Someone has to teach them a few things.
Also, I have to mention in a separate comment how much Sony listens compared to other manufacturers.
People wanted a UI that rotates. They added that. And not only that, they also made it so that the digital shutter button appears in portrait mode, which is great for intervalometer apps and something I personally could REALLY use.
People, especially Xperia fans themselves, really wanted a new sensor because the old main one was getting old and Sony not only gave us a bigger one, but a hardware-level, never before seen upgrade that doesn't require software magic to deliver in low light and naturally has both a wider dynamic range and low noise even in RAWs.
People were asking for focus peaking. They added that.
People wanted a night mode. They added that.
They increased the burst mode to 30 freaking fps, which no other phone is able to do, not even close.
I, as a 5 III owner, wished I had the ability to use the burst mode for HDR photos and now that's possible.
The new sensor is capable of real low ISOs, down to 25, which is incredible for bright light shooting conditions or even daylight long exposures, which is something I wish I had and is incredibly hard to do on smartphones without the use of an external ND filter.
Everybody was asking for more video options in photo pro and they've once again delivered, offering a few more settings than the competition even.
They ported over an already-color corrected profile from their alpha cameras, which means you no longer need to grade and convert your HDR footage if you don't want to. I know I was screaming about something like this and it's here now.
People complained up to the III series phones about the glossy back and the lack of grip, so Sony made Xperia backs frosty with the IV phones and then gave them the Pro-I's wired frame design as well as this dotted back.
And on top of all of this, their volume buttons act as zoom buttons right from the get go. This is how you can tell a phone knows how to be a good photography phone. Even before I knew this much about photography I was always very annoyed at the fact that all phone brands think volume buttons should be shutter buttons.
There's 2 things Sony should do now:
1) Add exposure zebras to complete the helpful camera UI elements.
2) Include the multiple-frame-merging feature their alpha cameras have so that you can see your subject in pitch black conditions. This would be a huge revolution in the smartphone space.
2:18 Couldn't agree more. I don't get how they make it sound so difficult when it's not even that difficult to understand and use.
Great job brother. I love my 5 iv... Just came back inside after taking raws of the night sky, but can't wait to get the 1 v.
I'm far from a photographic expert, but everything you outlined here looks very approachable and not intimidating. If anything, I find the menu structure in typical android photo apps to be less clear than the Sony. I wouldn't hesitate to get this phone if it were available in my country.
I think it's fair to be concerned about what someone is familiar with. If you've only ever shot on iPhones, then a camera app like this is REALLY unfamiliar. But if you've ever handled a mirrorless or an SLR (or if you're old enough like me to have shot on film) then this is REALLY accessible.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I agree with that, Juan. But I've never used an SLR or mirrorless camera in my life, and I found your explanation of the various layers of control on the Sony 1 mk V made a lot of sense to me, rather than being intimidating. It seems more organised than what I have on my Samsung.
My Samsung confuses the heck out of me because the menu structure has too many rabbit holes and it's easy to forget where everything is, plus you can't see what you changed and whether it's still changed, or whether it reverted to the standard settings. The end result for me is that I rarely use anything beyond the top layer of auto mode. On the Sony, along with your guidance on this video, I feel that I would have no trouble exploring the different controls and parameters as my photographic expertise grew. I feel it's designed to grow your understanding of photography rather than intimidate you - which is what Android tends to do.
There I agree. A sony is built to be more like a camera, and it's not trying to cater to ALL consumers in that regard. I think engineers at Samsung think they have to make an app for both iPhone users (who will likely never switch to an Android) AND include all the settings for a photographer more familiar with manual modes, and it kinda makes a mess. Some do this better than others. Vivo and Xiaomi apps are also SUPER messy, but I feel they're a bit more accessible at sorting the more pro features.
For a Samsung user, I'd recommend digging more into the expert pro mode. Samsung split off a separate RAW mode to shoot in, and I think it's a bit better. Not Sony level, but less "smartphone-y".
Focus peaking is truly amazing.
I'm so glad it's finally here!
@@SomeGadgetGuy Yes!!!
I get that a simple point and shoot experience is easier but I don't get why people say Sony camera apps is convoluted. Did people forget learning exist? Obviously there's the simple camera app for everybody else to use. Ofc the debate between cameras and phones exist but nobody would bring a kilogram worth of cameras every time. But having similar controls to a camera is very useful especially when you want to adjust a setting or two. Would've been nice if they can add it to their apps like any others do but it may cause some unnecessary changes. It's a learning curve but it will help you get used to camera terms and settings when you do go cameras.
I can understand a consumer being intimidated, but I find it REALLY problematic when reviewers complain. Those same reviewers that shoot CRISPY b-roll from their cinema mirrorless cameras.
@@SomeGadgetGuy that's another fair point there. They can create great cinematography but can't on the same but smaller platform? I know it's a smartphone but it's basically a camera in a phone. How is it any different from other camera phones like the Xiaomi 13 Ultra or the Vivo X90 Pro Plus. It's basically those two without too much computational photography. Instead of the phone taking over, you are the driver. You set destination, you set your gears and your off to your destination. But all people want is a free ride. I'm not saying the Xperia is a perfect phone but if they really want to review this as another generic device, what exactly are they telling their customers?
The fake reviewers guest learning man what is the point of using technology if you're not going to learn?
You are such a sincere and such a pro reviewer of Xperia and for that lots of cheers! Profound appreciation!
But... There is a lame but... Sony is avoiding contact with users that are not on YT, and they create content for themselves. The issues tested and send to them by e-mails were rarely understood or fixed. For example, as a Xperia 1mk4 user, even with all software upgrades (64.1.A.0.891) the device is still having issues with the worst bokeh integration ever for a front camera in a smartphone, and much cheaper Xperia like Ace III (~ $100 new) have the front camera Api2 manual active (better even), while 1mk4 (1/5 devices) do not. The 1s shutter speed mode at 64-200 ISO manual set, results with burned pixels in the photo! Who to solve it if not Sony's engineers that now are avoiding fixing or answering to e-mails, saying the device is on par with what it is meant to be? So please check these too and send to Sony these essential issues to be fixed for such $1500+ devices (for 1mk4 too). You can help users that are not listened by Sony, BIG TIME!
Thank you so much for all your work!
Thank you for sharing and creating this video. In my view this is probably the closest a phone has come to making 1 inch point and shoot cameras useless. It is so versatile by the looks of it. Seems like a zv1 in a phone body with better specs and it can act as a monitor, recording studio, a or B-roll camera and youtube talking head camera. How does the battery perform when shooting video or editing them?
Awesome explainer Juan. I feel the same way about mirrorless cameras and people learning how they work.
I really liked this video, loved the music too, so relaxing.
Man, great video. Thanks for making this!
Can't wait to get my hands on this.... Might be my new street photography go to
I just got mine and I'm just sorting it out now looking forward to using the camera
Congrats! The 1V is probably the last proper GREAT XPERIA. I still want to buy another as a museum piece...
Could you do a detailed comparison of the different Video Pro SDR/HDR color modes? I would love to see how the HLG/BT.2020 holds up when when color grading in Resolve and if it's true 10bit footage. I feel like nobody else seems to care about that, but I would find it really interesting to find out if one can make it look like an alpha camera shooting SLOG3!!!
I'll have this phone. Not this year, maybe not even next, but eventually.
we've only had our phone a couple days but appreciate your review of all the photo background
Congrats you got yourself a new subscriber. You deserved more ofcourse 🎉
I prefer quality subscribers over quantity subs 😉
Excellent video, you made me understand my xperia mark 5 iii camera settings more and take even better photos and videos!
Amazing and clear overview Juan, really great job.
Im glad sony make that apps no need to invest some third party apps
Ikr. Some third party apps use monthly subscription service, and not everyone likes that.
Just got mine today. Brilliant. thanks
I still use Xz3
Awesome guide! Thanks!
By the way, what stylus are you using in the video? It looks quite excellent 👌👍
An OLD wacom. Unfortunately discontinued now. Other powered capacitive pens SHOULD work though.
@@SomeGadgetGuy ah, ok, thank you!
As a Sony shooter im very familiar with the layout on this phone(A6400 & A7 IV). I use a pixel and sometimes i use manual camera . But honestly for photos i find that the three sliders google provide in camera is all i need and faster to set.
Excellent video thank you. Recently got the 1iv for £550, and most of what's on here applies exactly to it. Very helpful.
Nice buy!
The phone have a macro mode ?
THANK YOU Sir for the real, and deep look (a real look) into the amazing Sony Xperia world
waiting on full review sir 🙏 thanks
Great overview on the ui and functionality. Just wondering if it is possible to record video or take photo with all three cameras at once? Is there any app for that?
Protest the lenses with a cheap cover, or no?
Love your work and attitude. I havent been so much i CP and sees that i get what i wanted in the basic video. My 1iii are still more than i need and its a phone that keeps deliver and learn you more. And its not hard to shoot a good photo. Its just more fun. 1 v seems to be more for shooting films. For now im not so sure if i will buy the 1v or if i have to. Great work!
Good afternoon, I am also a photographer and videographer. Say please? Which is better for photos and videos: SONY XPERIA PRO-I or the new SONY XPERIA 1V, 5V models, please advise, tell me which one to take? Thank you very much in advance!
I do a lot of product photography. Could you please do a video on this phones ability to do macro photography
Brilliant tutorial !
Much respect to Sony ♥️
What stylus were you using? I liked how fine the point was.
I love this video format! I learned a lot about Sony camera menus and how they work. Thank you
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Anyone using these devices know if there is an intervalometer built in? Would that need a 3rd party app?
honestly I'm gonna get one. just one thing how long is the software support?
Nice overview of the Xperia camera apps. The improvements are significant compared to the apps on my 5ii.
I feel you. Have 5ii too and i love it but when I saw that Mark V resolved heating issue, has night mode and focus peeking, man, I'm sold... Still thinking if I should wait for 5V but this time, maybe I'll try 1V.
@@songokussj4cz Last year's 5 Mk4 was launched in September, so it's still a long wait.
I just want to point out. Heating issues aren't a binary situation. It's not "fixed" or "broken". We really need to describe what the limits are, and how to get the best out of every phone. EVERY phone will run hot and thermal throttle if you use every feature (screen, SOC, battery, 5G radio, camera) to it's max all at once, especially in warm weather. What we SHOULD be talking about, what ARE the limits so people know better what they can really count on in the field.
If you want the features of a Sony, a 1IV might be a good buy if you can get one for a good price now. It's not "broken", I shoot A LOT of 4K120 on mine. But i do have to babysit it more than the 1V.
I have had the 5 iii for a little over a year now. The apps are still very similar but I do notice the differences. The only thing I feel like I’m missing is the video pro app from the 4:th gen xperia series. That alone won’t however get me to upgrade, I’ll probably keep my current phone until it dies.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I think we have to be realistic regarding overheating in smartphones. Dedicated cameras can overheat when shooting 4K so it's not surprising that smartphones overheat more quickly with their slim dimensions. I think the Xperias may have set their thermal limit a little lower than other brands to protect battery health. Engineering compromises always have to be made and each brand has their preferences.
I pretty much only shoot in the expert raw app on my S24 ultra, it feels wrong to shoot in auto for me lol. I would love to use an Xperia 1 mark 5! Seems like a great system.
do you have any suggestion remote control / grip that compatible with 1v ?
Can you made a video on how to pair the controller with each camera apps?
Hi Juan. Thanks for your content. It's always interesting to see your take on tech which can be different to other reviewers.
I'm seriously considering the Xperia 1 V. I wonder if you could help with an answer to a question that Sony's chat helpline couldn't answer for me. Does the phone have a bokeh mode in for video? I can see from online info that in the Photography Pro app's Basic mode, there is a Bokeh Mode icon when you have the Photo option selected. However, when you select the Video option in this same area, I think the Bokeh Mode option disappears - i.e. no Bokeh Mode in video. Are you able to confirm or otherwise?
SUPER basic. There is a bokeh video mode in 1080p but not 4K, and it only ONLY seems to work with face detection. You can't set it on another focus point. I'm probably NEVER going to use this given the natural focus fall off of the larger main sensor. Would have been nice to have on the tele lens tho.
Thanks for that.
It's a shame, but not a surprise. If anything, and in a way, I'm surprised they have any video bokeh mode at all given the absolute radio silence on the subject from their marketing. On the other hand, if they made a fuss about it, they would probably get shot down for its' limitations.
I can't help thinking that improvements in bokeh modes should be the top priority for camera development in phones. Accepting the increases in sensor sizes, bokeh still seems to be the biggest weakness of camera phones compared to dedicated cameras. Given the physics of small sensors and the space limitations of phones, computational processing seems like the only option.
Camera phones already seem to be making strides in their other natural weakness, low light conditions, and I'm sure further improvements will come.
Talking of which, the Xperia 1 V seems to be getting very positive reviews of its' daylight performance (both photo & video), reasonably positive reviews of the new Night Mode for photos, but seems to be regarded as a bit weaker for video in low light, and to have a generally lower dynamic range (but conversely less noise and artifacts) than its' more computational competitors.
Having used it yourself, do you agree with that, or do you have a different experience? As always interested in your take.
It's tough to do a fair comparison without REALLY digging into NERDCORE tech.
Like, critiquing dynamic range. It's a red flag to hear someone complain about "lower" d-range, but with less noise. How is that person measuring and comparing? What modes are they shooting in (where HLG vs s-cine can make a HUGE difference in grading)? Are they mentioning native ISO (where the Sony can also slide down to a crazy low iso25)? I'm honestly not sure how I would fairly grade sensor performance at comparable "noise". Would that give the Sony a stop or two advantage in video quality?
There are a LOT of moving parts in a conversation like this, and it's REALLY not as easy as "I shot two clips, and this one has the better colors!"
Hey, Juan. Thanks for the review. And what is the name of the background music in this video? 🤔. Thanks
Would love to have this but sadly, there's are no Sony phones in my local market in the country.
Hi! I am interested in the stylus you are using. What is it called? Does the phone work with any Bluetooth stylus?
What a deep review resp👍
Thanks - been a while since I used a 'proper' camera, so useful to get a quick run down. Have been baselining with what it can do in basic modes, but might get adventurous with some video tomorrow. Wish me luck ;-)
Just the jump from basic to auto is pretty fun too. Enjoy!
Please mention what it misses out on when compared to an actual alpha camera/ or any mirrorless camera. I am pretty sure it is not the full alpha experience. For a start i know the Xperia doesnt have custom picture profiles, to adjust contrast, saturation and sharpness of the video or photos. Also what is the bitrate of the videos for different resolutions and framerates? Does it shoot 10 bit video? No one talks about these, please cover these in your full review.
This dude gets it. Other reviewers are just sheeps imo.
what stylus are u using?
Just an old capacitive stylus. I reviewed the wacom YEARS ago, but they discontinued it.
@@SomeGadgetGuy thanks
Thanks for this video! I’m more of a pro sports photographer and I’m thinking of getting this phone.
Have done any videos on using this camera with like and a74 or A1? Or any Alpha cameras between these models.