My Nan worked as a nurse at the hospital Shipman worked at. She told me he was friendly and good with kids. He diagnosed my uncle (her son) with Asthma. Crazy to think someone you know so casually could just so happen to be one of the most prolific killers in history
This has nothing to do with this video and I know this comment is 3 years old…but my bestie growing up in America had English parents. Nana is a name I’m very familiar with, thanks to the fact that her grandparents swept us up as their own as well ❤
I'm a doctor. I was training when Shipman was caught. To this day, the amount of trust that strangers place in me because of the word 'doctor' in front of my name is crazy. The number of people, over the years, whom I have asked: "why do you take this drug?" and comes the answer: "I don't know. Because my GP told me to." Could a Shipman situation happen again? Absolutely, yes. Not as prolifically, not in such great numbers, as these things are now monitored. But, over a 40-year career, could you get away with this every so often, and would the numbers be hidden in the statistical noise? Yes. Absolutely.
lmao have you not heard of the opioid epidemic in the US? Purdue pharma has killed more than any serial killer could ever dream of in terms of average non-predisposed people, not including those that were pro drug use beforehand. High school athletes turned doctor shoppers turned addicts till a blue faced death. corporate genocide in my opinion with individual serial killers on your own block poisoning the masses indiscriminately.
Weird because I usually don't trust any doctors. Most of the time they want you on meds for whatever ails you. No disrespect to you, you seem different but that's just my experience.
@@joshuagilmore5878 I thought the same thing. My mother's doctor came to mind instantly. My mom didn't survive him. He eventually got arrested for pushing pain killer prescriptions like candy. They literally found gold bars in his house. Had him on video basically making drug deals in his office. He got off because he was "a valuable medical professional in a highly underserved community". He still works in the office my mom went to. The office I spent my childhood and teenage years in watching people nod out while children like myself watched the TV in the waiting room. There's no such thing as justice for them.
i live in Hyde and he murdered one of my friends, Geoff Bogle who taught me some studio photography. Geoff was a gentleman who had an old-school courtesy about him. the people of hyde had such high regard for him and a lot of people didn't believe he did it even after his conviction. he often left the door of the victims house open so the victims could be found and most of his victims were elderly sat in there chairs with a sleeve rolled up
A friend of mine lost her grandfather thanks to Shipman as he was one of his victims. I also think he killed himself because his ego couldn't take the fact that he'd been caught.
Sorry to hear about your friend's grandfather; for whatever reason, I thought all the victims were female. As for your opinion of why he ended himself, I actually came here to say the same. A narcissist cannot tolerate being bested in any way and death was preferable to the constant reminder that he'd been caught out.
I'm sorry for your loss. And I do agree with your opinion on the suicide. That must have been a huge blow to his ego. One he had no chance of recovering from
I am very grateful that you didn´t decide to make this available only in podcast form as watching this on youtube on my computer is way more convenient for me
I agree and disagree. When driving, and having to listen to the podcast, it’s infuriating to hear Simon say something about “look at this”. Which means when I arrive at home I have to watch the entire episode again to see all the things he’s referencing. Oh Simon, you mad bastard, you do it on purpose to get twice the sweet watch/listen time. God bless you sir.
@@moonlightalkemist Now then, when you say “favorite Blaze to relax” is that a fancy double entendres? If it is, then sadly no. I gave up my favorite Blaze when I started unleashing my Demon Spawns upon this unsuspecting world. While I certainly don’t bemoan others of continuing to partake, and I have as well on the rare occasion, like when I went back home to Massachusetts and it’s “legal” there, I just couldn’t handle newborns and being outside of my mind. When it came to indulging in mind altering substances, I had no off switch, I was incapable of taking just a few puffs. I had to smoke until my brain seized up like an engine run with no oil. Now if that wasn’t a double entendres, then I just gave you a super long winded, pointless diatribe, but alas no. I have no particular favorite Blaze. In fact I’ve found some episodes unlistenable. Typically it involves Danny throwing too many pot shots at Trump. While I wouldn’t consider myself a supporter, I do like many of the policies he introduced, and I’d have the same reaction if he went after AOC too many times. Basically it comes down to those are my politicians to verbally assault, stick to your own side of the pond you English twat. One joke, ok, any more than that, about anything to do with our political system, and I want to make Danny eat the script, and then make Simon eat the leftovers for laughing and concurring. Take apart your own politicians, we can take care of our own.
He probably got away so long because his victims were expected to be at or near death's door already. A 20 year old with stab wounds is infinitely more suspicious than a 90 year old found at home in a recliner.
@@fainitesbarley2245 Depending on your habits, (food, alcohol, tobacco, other), it's actually pretty easy to have a fatal heart attack in your 40s. Given that the UK isn't that far behind the US in obesity and the UK NHS has a significantly worse track record per 10k patients than the US it's still not that hard to believe.
One of the things that got the undertaker suspicious was that so many were sitting in the living room fully clothed often with signs that they were still very active such as a meal prepared or shopping just done and not packed away. You'd normally expect to find people in bed, collapsed on the floor or in nightwear (or indoor type clothes).
One of the people who blew the whistle was the taxi driver. He had many clients in their 60’s and 70’s and he noticed a lot of unexpected deaths amongst Shipmans patients.
It was noticed by the other doctors practice who reported it but the first investigation was inconclusive. Also - we were a lot further behind the US in obesity and type 2 10-15 years ago than we are now.
internet rabbit hole iceberg: is Simon Whistler a clone? an android? a cyborg? octoplets? a series of AI-crafted endoskeletal bodysuits w/hive mind awareness? a midget in a rubber mask? a hologram of a hologram?
i wonder how many aliases we can create from anagrams of 'Simon Whistler'.. i got Wrestlin Moshi.. for next time i get pulled over.. just to see what comes up on the CPIC..
I work for a GP surgery in the UK and we all have a really dark sense of humour... there’s a GP who looks after all the care homes (LOTS of old people and covid is really not helping) and during particularly bad weeks she some times get called Harold or Dr Shipman. I have seen her come into 6 deaths after Christmas and someone handed her the death certificate book while saying ‘Steady on Harold’
It is precisely the fact that he got away with so many murders for so long that led him to become so sloppy. His confidence was raised and he felt that he would never be caught. This got a number of other serial killers caught too.
I would also think that as a doctor he would be able to write proper official letters as part of the job. My uncle is a doctor and he talks a lot about how he spends about 3 times as much time filling in paperwork as dealing with patients.
24:40 "This makes you very unlikeable Harold, and all the murdering as well" Simon trolling the killer Blaze-style, the entire video. Just..... awesome new channel!
You’ve left out my favorite part of his story. He even killed ladies in his sugary. That’s right, in office murders. Another doctor when questioned how often persons had just, dropped dead while during an examination he replied “never, that absolutely never happens”. Unsurprisingly with Dr. Death it was a thing.
My grandfather's in his 90s but still going strong. If he suddenly died after a visit with a doctor, I'd be immediately suspicious, but then I'm not a very trusting person and my grandparents are pretty open with their conditions. So if the doctor was like, oh, well, he had heart failure, you know, happens to people in their 90s, I'd be like, this is the first time I'm hearing about heart trouble, and he or my grandmother would have told me because I knew about his bowel troubles, my grandmother's hip troubles, etc. so I don't believe you, I want an autopsy. Guess it pays to be open with your loved ones about your conditions and to not trust people just because they're doctors or priests or whatever. Doesn't mean be paranoid, but do verify.
Harold Shipman was my landlord in the early 90's. He inherited his family home and & rented it out through an estate agent. I wouldn't have been in his demographic at the time (age 23) I didn't meet him as he was living in Leeds and rented it out via a local estate agent.
Simon, in case you haven't heard this lately, your videos (in all their iterations) brighten my world. Funny or serious, snarky or sincere, your work matters. ❤ Thank you and I hope your day is grand!
I live in the next town from Hyde, I think pretty much everyone around here knew someone he either killed or was suspected of. Suicide was too good for him.
Same here in todmorden where he worked later. A big reason people didn’t want to save the old listed doctors surgery here was because he used to work there. It’s a shame because it was a nice building. Aldi have benefitted from the land though 🤣
His detox off of pharmaceutically pure potent opiate such as pethidine and diamorphine (aka heroin) would have been a living hell for him. Especially in custody waiting for his trial. Surprised he didn’t kill himself before the trial.
@@beautifulcaptive Texas really does love to kill their criminals... New York had it, then it went away, and then it came back again, but never used, and then it went away again. I don't know if they plan on re-reinstating it, but I do know that many people in the state support it. At least, everyone I know.
Given everything she must've experienced by then (calf killed before it could drink her milk, she gets brutally milked anyway), she'd probably want to die.
@@djscottdog1Unless the calf is considered for veal, in which case it is immobilized to prevent muscle growth prior to slaughter so as to ensure supreme tenderness.
My mum lived in Hyde when she was growing up and we saw a programme about this guy on the tv and she said “holy shit I used to play in his back garden with his kids”
My husband has been watching your videos for years, and he was like "SIMON has a channel for your true crime junkie self" and honestly...not disappointed at all lads. Keep up the excellent work.
This kind of thing scares the hell out of me. I have a disability and I have a lot of friends who do also. Someone like Shipman might think that they’re doing something ‘merciful’, and end someone’s life if they decide it’s close to ending anyway - they convince themselves that they’re doing something kind and saving people from pain. No one has the right to do that.
Todmorden, I think that I will be staying away from there. I have no desire to leave the United States of America, it's easy to leave but trying to get back in is a real pain in the ass. And I am talking about just going to Canada and trying to get back in. However if you are an illegal alien, they seem to welcome you with open arms. We are being flooded with them. We can't take much more.
Im from Hyde and know this case extremely well. A little known fact is that his daughter is a practicing GP in the Hyde area still. She lives under a new identity and is a well loved family doctor by a lot of people, although i don/t think many know who she actually is.
Hearing the number of victims compared to how many double decker buses they would fit into is probably the most British thing I've heard in all the true crime I've watched, omg.
This reminds me of a recent serial killer in Germany. Niels Högel, a male nurse who is estimated to have ended the life of 200 people in his care. The wierd thing about his murders was that he did not plan on killing his victims. He purposefully introduced cardiac arrest so that he could be the first to respond and save their life by resuscitation. And then be hailed as a hero. Unfortunately, quite often this would fail. But often it must have worked, which makes me wonder how many more lifes he has endangered. It is also baffling how he got away with this for so long and how he was allowed to kill more people when his colleagues had already become suspicious of him. The world truly is full of awful as well as blind people.
Or stories of Florida Man. Because even though I live here, I see so many of his adventures, there's no way it's all one guy, allegedly. I think the heat has gotten to all Floridians brains and we're all hallucinating the adventures of Florida Man.
@@jwenting sorry to read that bro, nothing worse. According to my physco ex, one morning in front of our 9 and 5 year old girls, i was accused of having 12, 13 year old girls under my bed. There were other Jekell and Hyde incidents but that by far, was the cherry.
I love it, he's 3 months or so older than me, but looks at least 5 years older lmao. Kinda weird though, cuz I smoke and he doesn't. Guess hair and a smaller beard will do that lmao.
@@dudepool7530 that's what you think. Who knows what would have been said about you, if you had two dozen channels on youtube full of people with opinions
@@jenwren2993 Sadly, no. I was only a child, about 6 or so, when he died. My grandmother knew him well of course, being his cousin, but we don't like to talk about him all that much. What I know is mainly from things like this and books
i knew a guy when i lived in preston who met this bloke in prison, he was apparently pacing back and forth wondering where he knew him from thinking he was one of his teachers from school before he realised and went up and said "you're doctor death! have you been knocking off old grannies?" and shipman gave him a look of anger and said "ALLEGEDLY" lmao
At the time of his death, an expert on serial killers explained that the need to kill is involved with the need to have power and control. In prison, Shipman didn't even have control over his own bedtime. Apparently a lot of serial killers, robbed of what felt like absolute control when they were killing, kill themselves in prison. It's a shame that he escaped punishment (like you, I don't believe in Hell, it's inconsistent with my belief in a just God), but at least he was stopped from killing more.
Harold won the lottery of social stupidity. He was so extremely lucky, he got away with it every single time. And after so many years, of course you’re gonna become confident that nothing will do you in, so you relax. And bam, luck didn’t save him this time.
I'd like to echo the thanks for making this available on youtube instead of just podcast form. I love to have your videos from whichever channel I am in the mood for on half my screen while doing other things. I also have to say, out of the vast amount of stories and interesting tidbits, even as much of the horrific WW2 stuff I have watched on other channels of Simon's, this is the first story that made me seriously tear up at the amount of death. I think the way Simon presents the content for the podcast maybe is just easier for me to connect to in that kind of emotional way, but gosh, it hit me hard right around when he started listing off names and ages of victims. I can't even imagine, over 200 victims. What would have gone through the minds of the families of so many victims, some years after their loved one passed of supposed natural causes, just now to know that their trusted doctor did it.
I'm fascinated by the old lady that scolded the reporter for questioning this guy early on...how did she feel about his conviction? Was she also a victim?
An episode of one of the "Law And Order" shows was based directly on the story of Harold Shipman. In a scene where it is a meeting between the episode's murderous doctor and the hospital's board of directors, there was an easter egg of sorts just to tell the audience what the story is based on -one of the extras playing members of the board is a guy that looks exactly like Harold Shipman.
Shipman has the highest score but he was super boring. Not even a little bit of cannibalism to liven things up. If you're looking for other serial killers, you could cover The Shankill Butchers, one of the rare examples of a group of serial killers working together.
That was political though so a bit different that the typical serial killers. Certainly worth doing a video on though, tends to get ignored by documentary series because of the political angle.
I seem to remember thus here in the states, something about a doctor killing 15-20 people, never knew 250. That just blows my mind. I'll be waiting for your next story Simon.
One nurse here in Germany was convicted of killing more than a hundret patients in six years and he is suspected of even a lot more. It’s quite shocking.
Indeed, when I was attending college at the request of Workers Comp back in the mid 90's we did a commercial for 'Doctor Death's Helper!' using black jelly beans as samples, it was quite fun actually, I am not sure if we knew of Shippman back then, I think we were bassing it on the pro suicide dude who was in the news back then,
Hey Simon. I’m a huge fan of yours and watch all of your amazingly interesting channels. I love all your crazy antics but in shows of this caliber your respect and empathy is moving. Thanks to Callum for the way he puts the scripts together with the good old pommy humour and dry wit coming through. Cheers.
@@ClaymooreEOC covid might protect him. Can't travel to Prague to meet Simon. Hope for Callumn that he's a legend and knows he should stay away from his boss 😂
@@stephjovi It is far far too late for that. Part of Simons employment strategy is an interview on top of a trapdoor into the basement. That is how he catches all his staff while laughing like Jabba The Hutt...
I love the way you present these stories. There are countless other channels that cover stories like this however your style is without a doubt the best. Your sarcastic comentry and little bursts of laughter make you so easy to listen to. Thank you 😊
36:52 Yeah Tameside hospital has been an infamously bad hospital for a long time, although I think in recent years they've had a bit of a management overhaul because the CQC put them under special measures (I don't know if it's made any any improvement or not). There was a huge fuss kicked up in the local community and the press over widespread medical negligence like 15 years ago after one of my schoolmate's nan was admitted and died due to poor care. I was in there for a week once about 10 years ago and the care I got was decidedly subpar in a number of aspects.
Sidenote: The city of Todmorden sounds like prophetic irony in this case. In German Todmorden literally means Deathmurder (as in the act of "murdering someone to death").
I think there was an element of confirmation bias in the investigation. They had evidence of him killing elderly women so they looked for records of elderly women that died in his care. They didn't look for men, younger women and children until the later inquiry.
Danny is just a mirror with the name Danny written on it in pink lipstick. "Danny no!" yells Simon, giving himself a pained look in the mirror. Simon has gone mad, for there is no time to be sane when he has 73 videos to finish before the weekend.
Remember being told about one of my old teachers receiving a phone call from Harold saying her mother had passed away, when she later went to her mother's, it was her that answered the door. Her mother in law had passed, not mother
We have had a case where a nurse killed patients. The trial was opened for 332 suspected cases of murder. The case is a bit confusing, because he was initially only convicted for attempted murder, but as the suspected cases piled up, there were two more trials where the newly discovered cases were handled. At the end he was convicted of 87 murders in total and a couple of murder attempts. The other suspected cases could not be proven, because the bodies were either cremated or have been buried for too long already. This is the case of Niels Högel...
Well done Simon - this was done by the pro we love. Great production and delivery on this one. Respect to the poor victims and their surviving families. We’ll see what happens with the nurse who is charged similarly regarding her interactions with babies. You’re right, Hell is the only suitable place for some.
You don't appreciate the impact it had on the Cemetery admin staff and requirements to have a medical examiner sign off on cremations as a result of the Shipman case. The local cemetery I worked in, I had to file the paperwork records back in to the main records. Given that they have been refiling these documents for the last 10 years, I took on that role in 2012 and got the job finished. Then the following year, some 12 years after the shipman inquiry, the requirements for safety checks were being wound down. The impact was decades long.
Love ya Simon!!! This was one macabre show. Your sense of humor is spot on. Keep up the good work. Never a dull moment and something to learn. Thanks 👍
I did my ‘Work Experience’ (from school at age 14) at the building that became Harold Shipman’s surgery (doctor’s office), in Hyde, Tameside, Greater Manchester, England, U.K. It was a branch of the Halifax Building Society back then, before they restructured, became a Bank and changed premises. P.S. - I never went into Banking !
I work in home health care. I COULD probably get away with killing two or three a year, but death isn't everyday happenings. And me being at work at every one would soon be suspicious.
Yes and I think it would be better on business blaze rather than casual criminalist, I mean they were in the business of "procuring" bodies for doctors ;), allegedly (well not really allegedly).
@@loopyloon5401 I came here to say this. Also, only Burke was convicted after Hare turned King's Evidence. Mrs Hare was never charged and Helen McDougal, Burke's common law wife, was given the "not proven" verdict. Burke's body was cut down after the hanging and given to doctors for dissection. The two women probably knew what was going on, and might have even helped to clean up after the murders.
One of those women was only 53, that’s younger than my mother. And that poor little girl and her mother....what an evil monster, he robbed these women of their twilight years.
@@xxxand3r I can’t tell what you’re trying to say, “twilight years” refers to your old age (since twilight is the end of the day) and 53 is very young, it’s no age to die. Life doesn’t end at 30 and people still matter even if they’re older than you.
I worked at the Rotunda tape makers in Denton just a mile or so from Hyde at the time of the Shipman case,almost everybody who worked there had some connection to his victims mothers,nans or just older neighbours, yet people still said he was a lovely man so approachable and you were often hard put to get an appointment with him...Great new site Simon cheers.
I live in Hyde, the town where his surgery was and I walk past the place every time I go to the marketplace and it gives me the chills. Also my Grandad almost got an appointment with him but it got cancelled luckily. And he said he saw one of his friend's mother's on the way to her appointment with him and she got killed by the doc that day so my Grandad was probably one of the last people to ever talk to her.
I love how long and detailed these videos are. Most of the stuff I’ve seen on this killer in particular is just like a minute of rehashing a Wikipedia article in a top 10 video.
Speaking as a retired doctor myself I can't begin to express what damage this evil man did. Not only did he kill so many people, terrible enough, but he did so masked by the trust of his position. He also did more to destroy the fundamental trust of the doctor-patient relationship than anyone else, ever. Bad for everyone who relies on that trust; doctors and patients alike! The additional strain of the added daily scrutiny and mistrust, both official or otherwise, as a result of this evil man has been enough to push a great many good doctors out of the profession including myself! There is only so much added strain anyone can take in a job that routinely pushes practitioners to the limits of their physical and emotional endurance. Worse, while an understandable reaction the sad truth is all the extra scrutiny only serves to mask other possible murderers not expose them! Anyone with the brains to be a doctor has the brains to hide behind the mounds of paperwork generated where no such 'shield' previously existed!
@@jonathanwhite3507 my trust in doctors was shattered when my OBYGN told me i wasted tax dollars stopping the miscarriage of my daughter. Her treatment and "care" for me gave me medical ptsd and an extreme distrust and hate for American doctors and hospitals.
We can't get away with it nowadays, after the opioid crisis I get reamed in triplicate for prescribing any drug that the patient could potentially "enjoy too much", including diazepam for alcohol withdrawal, oxycontin for palliative care patients or fuck me, even panadeine forte for toothache.
I have two suggested cases for you if you're interested. The first is a group of serial killers that operated out of Chicago called the Ripper Crew. The reason I suggest this group is that there are so many strange things surrounding them that I think it's a good fit for this channel. For example, the leader of The Ripper Crew worked for John Wayne Gacy before becoming a killer himself. That in itself is very interesting and should provide for some great commentary. My second suggestion is one of the most cunning and ruthless killers I have ever studied. His name is Israel Keys and he went all over the United States to find his victims. I honestly believe had he not broken his cardinal rules he would still be killing innocent people today. During my criminal psychology studies in college one of my professors called Keyes "The worst case, nightmare senario for serial killers." This guy was as bad as they come, an absolute monster.... Warning: Both cases contain some of the worst crimes known to man. Addendum- Most people in the states do just fine with the police and the statistics bare this out. There are issues in 9 cities in the US with issues but the mass majority do not.
I would love to hear you guys cover David Parker Ray aka “The Toy Box Killer.” His crimes are extremely gruesome and truly the stuff of torturous nightmares. In my opinion, the most evil to ever walk the high desert of New Mexico.
Being from the hyde area, this hits way too close to home, its scary If you're looking for a similar case there was a nurse working at Stepping Hill Hospital in the Greater Manchester area that put insulin in IV bags and murdered a good few of her patients and that was quite recently. Got a great reputation haven't we
I just had a second nephew, he’s a few months old. I have my Abuela, she’s almost 70. If someone had harmed them, especially if they had killed them, I would pummel their faces with my bare hands until cerebral fluid comes out of their nose. The cruelty, the rage… I can’t. Those poor women… I hope their families are well.
I am also from Nottingham, but When you did your bit about having a cold and morphine clearing it right up reminded me of Blackadders doctor scene when the doctor prescribes leeches for everything lol
Episode 2? I thought this was like number 3 or 4 it's hard to keep track of Simon and his takeover of youtube. Edit: also your coffee mug looks like my late father's mug, stained from every day multiple times a day use.
Shipman was my godmother's doctor during both of her pregnancies. She said he seemed perfectly normal, even recommending him to one of her relatives when they complained about their own doctor
>Discussing examples of horrendous serial killers compared to old Harry here. >Cheery jazz playing happily in the background. Nice contrast, I like your style
The old dear tutting in the waiting room as Shipman was being confronted. I can only imagine how many messed up things happened because someone said the words, "don't make a fuss". Super writing as always, and presentation by Simon, as always.
We’re at the point. We’re I can click on a random TH-cam video and just unsurprisingly go “oh shit it’s a Simon Whistler channel.”
LOL
Someone has the right algorithm.
how many channels do you want Simon?
Simon: yes
Also simon: Yes is never enough
How many variations of this meme?
Internet: Yes
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My Nan worked as a nurse at the hospital Shipman worked at. She told me he was friendly and good with kids. He diagnosed my uncle (her son) with Asthma. Crazy to think someone you know so casually could just so happen to be one of the most prolific killers in history
These are the things that scare me. Those killers where no one ever said, “oh, that’s an odd duck”. Even worse, someone highly trusted and personable.
This has nothing to do with this video and I know this comment is 3 years old…but my bestie growing up in America had English parents. Nana is a name I’m very familiar with, thanks to the fact that her grandparents swept us up as their own as well ❤
I'm a doctor. I was training when Shipman was caught. To this day, the amount of trust that strangers place in me because of the word 'doctor' in front of my name is crazy. The number of people, over the years, whom I have asked: "why do you take this drug?" and comes the answer: "I don't know. Because my GP told me to." Could a Shipman situation happen again? Absolutely, yes. Not as prolifically, not in such great numbers, as these things are now monitored. But, over a 40-year career, could you get away with this every so often, and would the numbers be hidden in the statistical noise? Yes. Absolutely.
lmao have you not heard of the opioid epidemic in the US? Purdue pharma has killed more than any serial killer could ever dream of in terms of average non-predisposed people, not including those that were pro drug use beforehand. High school athletes turned doctor shoppers turned addicts till a blue faced death. corporate genocide in my opinion with individual serial killers on your own block poisoning the masses indiscriminately.
Weird because I usually don't trust any doctors. Most of the time they want you on meds for whatever ails you. No disrespect to you, you seem different but that's just my experience.
A bit creepy you write this, what do you know?
@@joshuagilmore5878 I thought the same thing. My mother's doctor came to mind instantly. My mom didn't survive him. He eventually got arrested for pushing pain killer prescriptions like candy. They literally found gold bars in his house. Had him on video basically making drug deals in his office. He got off because he was "a valuable medical professional in a highly underserved community". He still works in the office my mom went to. The office I spent my childhood and teenage years in watching people nod out while children like myself watched the TV in the waiting room. There's no such thing as justice for them.
I used to be an optical assistant so I get people asking me about issues with eyes all the time.
i live in Hyde and he murdered one of my friends, Geoff Bogle who taught me some studio photography. Geoff was a gentleman who had an old-school courtesy about him. the people of hyde had such high regard for him and a lot of people didn't believe he did it even after his conviction.
he often left the door of the victims house open so the victims could be found and most of his victims were elderly sat in there chairs with a sleeve rolled up
A friend of mine lost her grandfather thanks to Shipman as he was one of his victims. I also think he killed himself because his ego couldn't take the fact that he'd been caught.
Sorry to hear about your friend's grandfather; for whatever reason, I thought all the victims were female. As for your opinion of why he ended himself, I actually came here to say the same. A narcissist cannot tolerate being bested in any way and death was preferable to the constant reminder that he'd been caught out.
I'm sorry for your loss. And I do agree with your opinion on the suicide. That must have been a huge blow to his ego. One he had no chance of recovering from
@@momcat2223 according to the official inquiry afterwards, there was "quite serious suspicion" that at least a handful of his victims were children.
I'm sorry hear about your friend's grandfather.
Spolier alert!
I am very grateful that you didn´t decide to make this available only in podcast form as watching this on youtube on my computer is way more convenient for me
I agree and disagree. When driving, and having to listen to the podcast, it’s infuriating to hear Simon say something about “look at this”. Which means when I arrive at home I have to watch the entire episode again to see all the things he’s referencing. Oh Simon, you mad bastard, you do it on purpose to get twice the sweet watch/listen time. God bless you sir.
@@KelticTim 😂😂😂😂he knows how to get listeners and viewers
@@KelticTim do you then have to indulge in a favorite Blaze to relax?😉
@@moonlightalkemist Now then, when you say “favorite Blaze to relax” is that a fancy double entendres? If it is, then sadly no. I gave up my favorite Blaze when I started unleashing my Demon Spawns upon this unsuspecting world. While I certainly don’t bemoan others of continuing to partake, and I have as well on the rare occasion, like when I went back home to Massachusetts and it’s “legal” there, I just couldn’t handle newborns and being outside of my mind. When it came to indulging in mind altering substances, I had no off switch, I was incapable of taking just a few puffs. I had to smoke until my brain seized up like an engine run with no oil. Now if that wasn’t a double entendres, then I just gave you a super long winded, pointless diatribe, but alas no. I have no particular favorite Blaze. In fact I’ve found some episodes unlistenable. Typically it involves Danny throwing too many pot shots at Trump. While I wouldn’t consider myself a supporter, I do like many of the policies he introduced, and I’d have the same reaction if he went after AOC too many times. Basically it comes down to those are my politicians to verbally assault, stick to your own side of the pond you English twat. One joke, ok, any more than that, about anything to do with our political system, and I want to make Danny eat the script, and then make Simon eat the leftovers for laughing and concurring. Take apart your own politicians, we can take care of our own.
@@moonlightalkemist and apologies for the novel I just wrote to you.
He probably got away so long because his victims were expected to be at or near death's door already. A 20 year old with stab wounds is infinitely more suspicious than a 90 year old found at home in a recliner.
Yeah but some were only in their sixties.
@@fainitesbarley2245 Depending on your habits, (food, alcohol, tobacco, other), it's actually pretty easy to have a fatal heart attack in your 40s. Given that the UK isn't that far behind the US in obesity and the UK NHS has a significantly worse track record per 10k patients than the US it's still not that hard to believe.
One of the things that got the undertaker suspicious was that so many were sitting in the living room fully clothed often with signs that they were still very active such as a meal prepared or shopping just done and not packed away. You'd normally expect to find people in bed, collapsed on the floor or in nightwear (or indoor type clothes).
One of the people who blew the whistle was the taxi driver. He had many clients in their 60’s and 70’s and he noticed a lot of unexpected deaths amongst Shipmans patients.
It was noticed by the other doctors practice who reported it but the first investigation was inconclusive.
Also - we were a lot further behind the US in obesity and type 2 10-15 years ago than we are now.
How in the hell do you have so many channels? You are a certified workaholic and one of the best content creators I have ever seen.
internet rabbit hole iceberg: is Simon Whistler a clone? an android? a cyborg? octoplets? a series of AI-crafted endoskeletal bodysuits w/hive mind awareness? a midget in a rubber mask? a hologram of a hologram?
i wonder how many aliases we can create from anagrams of 'Simon Whistler'.. i got Wrestlin Moshi.. for next time i get pulled over.. just to see what comes up on the CPIC..
Sho Mi Wrestlin.. i think we've been had..
It's not work if you love what you do
@@SuicideJones all?
I work for a GP surgery in the UK and we all have a really dark sense of humour... there’s a GP who looks after all the care homes (LOTS of old people and covid is really not helping) and during particularly bad weeks she some times get called Harold or Dr Shipman. I have seen her come into 6 deaths after Christmas and someone handed her the death certificate book while saying ‘Steady on Harold’
That’s dark. But such work needs dark humour
That is funny lol
Half of the episode is Simon trolling the serial killer.
"What are you doing, Herald?"
Lol
Yep
“Or Fred? Whatever your name is…” XD
"Hey, Herald are you okay? Are you okay? Are you okay, Herald?"
@@black.baron_angel +he's just a smooth criminal.
It is precisely the fact that he got away with so many murders for so long that led him to become so sloppy. His confidence was raised and he felt that he would never be caught. This got a number of other serial killers caught too.
I would also think that as a doctor he would be able to write proper official letters as part of the job. My uncle is a doctor and he talks a lot about how he spends about 3 times as much time filling in paperwork as dealing with patients.
Don't they all get Cocky and Sloppy after awhile?
I think that was the case with Randy Kraft as well
24:40 "This makes you very unlikeable Harold, and all the murdering as well"
Simon trolling the killer Blaze-style, the entire video. Just..... awesome new channel!
He said this channel was going be bit more laid back than Geographics
I wanted to like your comment but it has so 69 likes so, you understand... haha funny sex number
@@KlaximumSkroeft Nice.
@@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas - lol any more laid back and he'd be completely horizontal
@@franl155 nah you need watch business blaze
You’ve left out my favorite part of his story. He even killed ladies in his sugary. That’s right, in office murders. Another doctor when questioned how often persons had just, dropped dead while during an examination he replied “never, that absolutely never happens”. Unsurprisingly with Dr. Death it was a thing.
It’s certainly rare! If you are well enough to be seen in the office, you usually are not quite on death’s doorstep.
What’s a sugary?
"favorite part"?
My grandfather's in his 90s but still going strong. If he suddenly died after a visit with a doctor, I'd be immediately suspicious, but then I'm not a very trusting person and my grandparents are pretty open with their conditions. So if the doctor was like, oh, well, he had heart failure, you know, happens to people in their 90s, I'd be like, this is the first time I'm hearing about heart trouble, and he or my grandmother would have told me because I knew about his bowel troubles, my grandmother's hip troubles, etc. so I don't believe you, I want an autopsy. Guess it pays to be open with your loved ones about your conditions and to not trust people just because they're doctors or priests or whatever. Doesn't mean be paranoid, but do verify.
Harold Shipman was my landlord in the early 90's. He inherited his family home and & rented it out through an estate agent. I wouldn't have been in his demographic at the time (age 23) I didn't meet him as he was living in Leeds and rented it out via a local estate agent.
Simon, in case you haven't heard this lately, your videos (in all their iterations) brighten my world. Funny or serious, snarky or sincere, your work matters. ❤ Thank you and I hope your day is grand!
I live in the next town from Hyde, I think pretty much everyone around here knew someone he either killed or was suspected of. Suicide was too good for him.
Same here in todmorden where he worked later. A big reason people didn’t want to save the old listed doctors surgery here was because he used to work there. It’s a shame because it was a nice building. Aldi have benefitted from the land though 🤣
His detox off of pharmaceutically pure potent opiate such as pethidine and diamorphine (aka heroin) would have been a living hell for him. Especially in custody waiting for his trial. Surprised he didn’t kill himself before the trial.
"Life without parole is a rare sentence here in the UK" Meanwhile, in America we hand that shit out like candy with a sprinkling of the death penalty.
Doesn't that depend on the state though?
@@Vulcanwoman It does. Some states have abolished it, others haven't. The ones that still have it though, especially like Texas go nuts.
@@beautifulcaptive Texas really does love to kill their criminals... New York had it, then it went away, and then it came back again, but never used, and then it went away again. I don't know if they plan on re-reinstating it, but I do know that many people in the state support it. At least, everyone I know.
THAT'S FULL BLOWN BS
@@That_One_Guy_In_A_Band well the death penalty might as well be a life sentence. It takes forever to kill someone on death row for whatever reason.
"I'm giving all my money to the doctor....BURN ME!" not at all suspicious
Lol!!!!
I spoke to him once, i worked at the computer support centre. He was calling to ask how to back date medical entries.... Glad our calls were recorded.
OMG!
Yikes man.
Are you serious!? I was with Dennis Nilsens neice for 5yrs-thats my serial killer "claim to fame" (for want of a better phrase lol)
@@teethgrinder83 A friend still lives directly opposite his house in Muswell Hill. My ex-girlfriend used to live a 5 min walk away from there too.
😧
"Like a cow rolling its eyes at the vegans picketing the abattoir" -- GOLD!
Given everything she must've experienced by then (calf killed before it could drink her milk, she gets brutally milked anyway), she'd probably want to die.
@@pyromania1018 cows like being milked and the calfs are sold usually not killed
@@djscottdog1 Not what I heard, but okay.
@@djscottdog1 did you ask them?
@@djscottdog1Unless the calf is considered for veal, in which case it is immobilized to prevent muscle growth prior to slaughter so as to ensure supreme tenderness.
My mum lived in Hyde when she was growing up and we saw a programme about this guy on the tv and she said “holy shit I used to play in his back garden with his kids”
😳 *gulp*
Lucky for you family she went tl a different gp
I had a gf that was one of his relatives from Nottingham.
My husband has been watching your videos for years, and he was like "SIMON has a channel for your true crime junkie self" and honestly...not disappointed at all lads. Keep up the excellent work.
This kind of thing scares the hell out of me. I have a disability and I have a lot of friends who do also. Someone like Shipman might think that they’re doing something ‘merciful’, and end someone’s life if they decide it’s close to ending anyway - they convince themselves that they’re doing something kind and saving people from pain. No one has the right to do that.
This man will not rest until he owns half of all TH-cam channels
lol the other half, you mean!
Why would Dr Death own half of all TH-cam channels?
Are we gonna see a "Japanese worker found dead at workplace " type story with Simon as the Japanese worker?
Also funny that the town is called Todmorden. That’s German „Tod-„ (death), and „Morden“ (to murder). Very on the nose.
Yes it is a very strange name for a place!
@@mariet4894 German as heck, tho.
The place is also famous for several UFO sightings, too.
Todmorden, I think that I will be staying away from there. I have no desire to leave the United States of America, it's easy to leave but trying to get back in is a real pain in the ass. And I am talking about just going to Canada and trying to get back in. However if you are an illegal alien, they seem to welcome you with open arms. We are being flooded with them. We can't take much more.
*Dethkopter descends upon the town
I will accept Simon as the only acceptable TH-cam monopoly. You go my guy branch out
Im from Hyde and know this case extremely well. A little known fact is that his daughter is a practicing GP in the Hyde area still. She lives under a new identity and is a well loved family doctor by a lot of people, although i don/t think many know who she actually is.
I would imagine she's a really good doctor. Penance and guilt are serious motivators.
Hearing the number of victims compared to how many double decker buses they would fit into is probably the most British thing I've heard in all the true crime I've watched, omg.
'Known as Fred to his friends.... wait isn't his name Harold' I don't know why, but the delivery made me laugh
My friends dad was like that. I can't remember his real name (it wasn't Harold though), but he went by Fred.
@ASphincterSaysWhat ? Damn you... Made me think of National Treasure 2... Still don't know why my ex talked me into it...
Harold Frederick Shipman it's not hard to use Google so you don't come off like a dumbass
@@cal4207 they just said the delivery made him laugh, ffs cheer up mate, theres enough bull going on in the world without being dicks to each other.
@@thatsthat2612 I like that ❤️
This reminds me of a recent serial killer in Germany. Niels Högel, a male nurse who is estimated to have ended the life of 200 people in his care. The wierd thing about his murders was that he did not plan on killing his victims. He purposefully introduced cardiac arrest so that he could be the first to respond and save their life by resuscitation. And then be hailed as a hero.
Unfortunately, quite often this would fail.
But often it must have worked, which makes me wonder how many more lifes he has endangered.
It is also baffling how he got away with this for so long and how he was allowed to kill more people when his colleagues had already become suspicious of him.
The world truly is full of awful as well as blind people.
There was also a female nurse that did the same but she worked with infants
In both cases, what twist minded worldview people must have, to practice such horrible things?!
Hero complexes and Angels of Death are always around. I wonder how many we catch?
Can the next YT channel be called "Allegedly" and cover people wrongly accused of bad behaviors?
Or stories of Florida Man. Because even though I live here, I see so many of his adventures, there's no way it's all one guy, allegedly. I think the heat has gotten to all Floridians brains and we're all hallucinating the adventures of Florida Man.
like the false claims of me being a pedophile? And yes, that really happened.
@@jwenting sorry to read that bro, nothing worse. According to my physco ex, one morning in front of our 9 and 5 year old girls, i was accused of having 12, 13 year old girls under my bed. There were other Jekell and Hyde incidents but that by far, was the cherry.
Like Amanda Knox?
Brilliant idea.
“Oh Harold, you snowflake”
I love this show .. 🤣🤣👏🏾
I like this version of Simon. Feels a lot more casual, calmer than when he does Biographic videos.
Simon, the man that looks surprisingly young and surprisingly old at the same time.
@@zhannad750 And Simon is approaching 33 or 34, according to a nearly year old Business Blaze episode
@@ewoodley82 33 now. Early enough.
I totally understand this comment
I love it, he's 3 months or so older than me, but looks at least 5 years older lmao. Kinda weird though, cuz I smoke and he doesn't. Guess hair and a smaller beard will do that lmao.
@@dudepool7530 that's what you think. Who knows what would have been said about you, if you had two dozen channels on youtube full of people with opinions
"Outside of your family and close friends... who do you trust the most?" Considering this man was a blood relative of mine... hard to say, tbh :/
Details please!!! Did you know him personally?
@@jenwren2993 Sadly, no. I was only a child, about 6 or so, when he died. My grandmother knew him well of course, being his cousin, but we don't like to talk about him all that much. What I know is mainly from things like this and books
i knew a guy when i lived in preston who met this bloke in prison, he was apparently pacing back and forth wondering where he knew him from thinking he was one of his teachers from school before he realised and went up and said "you're doctor death! have you been knocking off old grannies?" and shipman gave him a look of anger and said "ALLEGEDLY" lmao
Yeah,that happened
@@napoleon8017 no one has ever been to prison. got ya
@@napoleon8017 Regardless. The storry is funny.
@@robertnett9793 sure,but why pretend it happened to look cool on internet
@@napoleon8017 Why deny people's experiences to be an ass on the internet?
At the time of his death, an expert on serial killers explained that the need to kill is involved with the need to have power and control. In prison, Shipman didn't even have control over his own bedtime. Apparently a lot of serial killers, robbed of what felt like absolute control when they were killing, kill themselves in prison. It's a shame that he escaped punishment (like you, I don't believe in Hell, it's inconsistent with my belief in a just God), but at least he was stopped from killing more.
Harold Shipman wasn't so bad. After all, he did kill Harold Shipman.
Harold won the lottery of social stupidity. He was so extremely lucky, he got away with it every single time. And after so many years, of course you’re gonna become confident that nothing will do you in, so you relax. And bam, luck didn’t save him this time.
i love how this is more in depth and relaxed than the biographics
after binge watching JCS and ThatChapter I'm glad this is finally a thing.
This is finally a thing. By thing you mean a channel. That chapter is good too.
I'd like to echo the thanks for making this available on youtube instead of just podcast form. I love to have your videos from whichever channel I am in the mood for on half my screen while doing other things. I also have to say, out of the vast amount of stories and interesting tidbits, even as much of the horrific WW2 stuff I have watched on other channels of Simon's, this is the first story that made me seriously tear up at the amount of death. I think the way Simon presents the content for the podcast maybe is just easier for me to connect to in that kind of emotional way, but gosh, it hit me hard right around when he started listing off names and ages of victims. I can't even imagine, over 200 victims. What would have gone through the minds of the families of so many victims, some years after their loved one passed of supposed natural causes, just now to know that their trusted doctor did it.
And this is how long it took before the cocaine jokes started! I'm surprised he held out even this long.
I'm fascinated by the old lady that scolded the reporter for questioning this guy early on...how did she feel about his conviction? Was she also a victim?
Its because of Shipman that the all doctors in the UK have to have appraisals every year and a massive one every 5 years.
An episode of one of the "Law And Order" shows was based directly on the story of Harold Shipman. In a scene where it is a meeting between the episode's murderous doctor and the hospital's board of directors, there was an easter egg of sorts just to tell the audience what the story is based on -one of the extras playing members of the board is a guy that looks exactly like Harold Shipman.
Shipman has the highest score but he was super boring. Not even a little bit of cannibalism to liven things up.
If you're looking for other serial killers, you could cover The Shankill Butchers, one of the rare examples of a group of serial killers working together.
Mate... I don't know if you're cool or creepy... :
@@GodlikeIridium Was just thinking that as I read your comment minus the mate thing... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭
That was political though so a bit different that the typical serial killers. Certainly worth doing a video on though, tends to get ignored by documentary series because of the political angle.
@@GodlikeIridium little from column A, little from column B?? 😬
I seem to remember thus here in the states, something about a doctor killing 15-20 people, never knew 250. That just blows my mind.
I'll be waiting for your next story Simon.
One nurse here in Germany was convicted of killing more than a hundret patients in six years and he is suspected of even a lot more. It’s quite shocking.
Are you perhaps thinking of Dr. Jack Kevorkian? He was the doctor who was arrested for performing assisted suicides.
Indeed, when I was attending college at the request of Workers Comp back in the mid 90's we did a commercial for 'Doctor Death's Helper!' using black jelly beans as samples, it was quite fun actually, I am not sure if we knew of Shippman back then, I think we were bassing it on the pro suicide dude who was in the news back then,
@@JerryEricsson you're talking about Jack Kevorkian. I remember that name all too well.
@@SkunkApe407 You are absolutely right! Now that you say it, I wonder why I could not dredge it up from the depth of my mind! Old age I guess. (70)
Love how detailed and well-researched your videos are!
Hey Simon. I’m a huge fan of yours and watch all of your amazingly interesting channels. I love all your crazy antics but in shows of this caliber your respect and empathy is moving. Thanks to Callum for the way he puts the scripts together with the good old pommy humour and dry wit coming through. Cheers.
Simon, this is a great idea. I feel you need a heater side kick to liven things up.
Callum will eventually be in the basement with Danny........
@@ewoodley82 And Sam....
I imagine a space heater? Maybe an ETA? 😂
@@ClaymooreEOC covid might protect him. Can't travel to Prague to meet Simon. Hope for Callumn that he's a legend and knows he should stay away from his boss 😂
@@stephjovi It is far far too late for that. Part of Simons employment strategy is an interview on top of a trapdoor into the basement. That is how he catches all his staff while laughing like Jabba The Hutt...
This channel is like "Story Time With Simon"
quite interesting, love the longer format, the casual, Business Blaze like Simon and I hope this channel grows as fast as Megaprojects did.
I love the way you present these stories. There are countless other channels that cover stories like this however your style is without a doubt the best. Your sarcastic comentry and little bursts of laughter make you so easy to listen to. Thank you 😊
Agreed! It’s like listening to a friend rant about something crazy they just learned. It’s quite enjoyable.
36:52 Yeah Tameside hospital has been an infamously bad hospital for a long time, although I think in recent years they've had a bit of a management overhaul because the CQC put them under special measures (I don't know if it's made any any improvement or not). There was a huge fuss kicked up in the local community and the press over widespread medical negligence like 15 years ago after one of my schoolmate's nan was admitted and died due to poor care. I was in there for a week once about 10 years ago and the care I got was decidedly subpar in a number of aspects.
I lost it at .. " want some cocaine drops"?
Sidenote: The city of Todmorden sounds like prophetic irony in this case. In German Todmorden literally means Deathmurder (as in the act of "murdering someone to death").
😂😂😂Omg that didn't even occur to me. Tod morden 😂😂😂😂😂😂the irony
Tod is not a city. It's a small town in the Pennines right on the border of Yorkshire and Lancashire.
I read this comment and my brain immediately blurted 'how do you murder someone not to death? Didn't know you could murder someone partially'
“People die when they are killed.”
@@annieroland5882 I merely said how it is translated, both literally and what the meaning would be - I never claimed it made any sense. 😉
Quite shocking about the four year old girl, I thought it was just old women. There's no word to describe his sickness
I think there was an element of confirmation bias in the investigation. They had evidence of him killing elderly women so they looked for records of elderly women that died in his care. They didn't look for men, younger women and children until the later inquiry.
I think there were some suspicions over a good handful of younger people.
Simon "Im gonna have a sip of coffee."
Me *immediately pauses video to go make coffee*
A friend of mine was one of his victims (Survived)
He has an incredible story. very sad but hopefully he'll be publishing his experiences soon enough.
I worked for a man that was one of his patients at the time he was captured, if I remember correctly his mom died under this guy's care.
Danny is just a mirror with the name Danny written on it in pink lipstick. "Danny no!" yells Simon, giving himself a pained look in the mirror. Simon has gone mad, for there is no time to be sane when he has 73 videos to finish before the weekend.
Simon's sarcasm really comes out in this deep dive. Keep them coming please.
Callum, if Simon invites you to meet Danny, may be best to politely decline.
Remember being told about one of my old teachers receiving a phone call from Harold saying her mother had passed away, when she later went to her mother's, it was her that answered the door. Her mother in law had passed, not mother
We have had a case where a nurse killed patients. The trial was opened for 332 suspected cases of murder. The case is a bit confusing, because he was initially only convicted for attempted murder, but as the suspected cases piled up, there were two more trials where the newly discovered cases were handled. At the end he was convicted of 87 murders in total and a couple of murder attempts. The other suspected cases could not be proven, because the bodies were either cremated or have been buried for too long already. This is the case of Niels Högel...
Well done Simon - this was done by the pro we love. Great production and delivery on this one. Respect to the poor victims and their surviving families. We’ll see what happens with the nurse who is charged similarly regarding her interactions with babies. You’re right, Hell is the only suitable place for some.
I drove a Ford Focus, and I didn't become a serial killer. And I stick with that claim.
No but you drove a ford focus so you shall be considered in the same fashion
Didn’t become a serial killer.....yet!
You would say that....
Allegedly
I ain’t got a witness and I cain’t prove it but that’s my story and I’m sticking to it!
"He gives us people named Fred a really bad name. How can anyone trust us after this" says serial killer spokesperson Mr West.
Found your channel recently. Love the stories... but really love your commentary
You don't appreciate the impact it had on the Cemetery admin staff and requirements to have a medical examiner sign off on cremations as a result of the Shipman case. The local cemetery I worked in, I had to file the paperwork records back in to the main records.
Given that they have been refiling these documents for the last 10 years, I took on that role in 2012 and got the job finished. Then the following year, some 12 years after the shipman inquiry, the requirements for safety checks were being wound down. The impact was decades long.
Love ya Simon!!! This was one macabre show. Your sense of humor is spot on. Keep up the good work. Never a dull moment and something to learn. Thanks 👍
40 minutes of Simon rebelling against the script
You know when I started watching it was just top tenz and today I found out. Now there's like eleventy billion channels. I can't keep up.
Simon created another channel in the time it took to post your comment.
Back in the day when Simon was unbearded. Yes.
Ahh, no beard, no glasses. He kinda looked like an actual knob 😂
@@simplyramona8678 - lol I found an old vid recently and didn't recognise the man in the thumbnail. I thought, did Simon get someone to sub for him?
I did my ‘Work Experience’ (from school at age 14) at the building that became Harold Shipman’s surgery (doctor’s office), in Hyde, Tameside, Greater Manchester, England, U.K.
It was a branch of the Halifax Building Society back then, before they restructured, became a Bank and changed premises.
P.S. - I never went into Banking !
I work in home health care. I COULD probably get away with killing two or three a year, but death isn't everyday happenings. And me being at work at every one would soon be suspicious.
Learning about serial killers from a host who has someone locked in his basement....
You can feel just how done Simon is with Fred, harold, whatever his name is. 😂🤣
Burke and Hare were done on Biographics, not Today I Found Out
Yes and I think it would be better on business blaze rather than casual criminalist, I mean they were in the business of "procuring" bodies for doctors ;), allegedly (well not really allegedly).
Also, they were Irish, they came to Scotland for work.
@@loopyloon5401 I came here to say this. Also, only Burke was convicted after Hare turned King's Evidence. Mrs Hare was never charged and Helen McDougal, Burke's common law wife, was given the "not proven" verdict. Burke's body was cut down after the hanging and given to doctors for dissection. The two women probably knew what was going on, and might have even helped to clean up after the murders.
@@laceneil4570 I'm aware, I saw Dankula's video.
@@loopyloon5401 Soz, I tend to go on as thus is one of my favourite cases. 🥲
One of those women was only 53, that’s younger than my mother. And that poor little girl and her mother....what an evil monster, he robbed these women of their twilight years.
53 twilight years?? The little girl I definitely get it those were her twilight years but the 53 year old she had about 30 seconds left anyway
@@xxxand3r I can’t tell what you’re trying to say, “twilight years” refers to your old age (since twilight is the end of the day) and 53 is very young, it’s no age to die. Life doesn’t end at 30 and people still matter even if they’re older than you.
@@RubyBlueUwU your right life doesn’t end at 30 unless of course you die at 30
I’m 58 and I am not ready to give up motorcycles, yet, let alone living.
I worked at the Rotunda tape makers in Denton just a mile or so from Hyde at the time of the Shipman case,almost everybody who worked there had some connection to his victims mothers,nans or just older neighbours, yet people still said he was a lovely man so approachable and you were often hard put to get an appointment with him...Great new site Simon cheers.
This man has so many channels- and I’m subscribed to them all.
Bravo
No, I don't think he's on Bravo... Yet. 😉
I live in Hyde, the town where his surgery was and I walk past the place every time I go to the marketplace and it gives me the chills. Also my Grandad almost got an appointment with him but it got cancelled luckily. And he said he saw one of his friend's mother's on the way to her appointment with him and she got killed by the doc that day so my Grandad was probably one of the last people to ever talk to her.
My mum started work at a GP’s opposite his practice as this case was underway. Let’s just say it was hectic!
I love how long and detailed these videos are. Most of the stuff I’ve seen on this killer in particular is just like a minute of rehashing a Wikipedia article in a top 10 video.
I came for a serial killer documentary, but ended up watching Simon Whistler roasting the f*** out of a sick serial killer doctor. Can't complain.
My primary school receptionist was picked to be on the jury for his trial but she couldn’t cos she knew someone related to one of his victims.
Speaking as a retired doctor myself I can't begin to express what damage this evil man did. Not only did he kill so many people, terrible enough, but he did so masked by the trust of his position.
He also did more to destroy the fundamental trust of the doctor-patient relationship than anyone else, ever. Bad for everyone who relies on that trust; doctors and patients alike!
The additional strain of the added daily scrutiny and mistrust, both official or otherwise, as a result of this evil man has been enough to push a great many good doctors out of the profession including myself! There is only so much added strain anyone can take in a job that routinely pushes practitioners to the limits of their physical and emotional endurance.
Worse, while an understandable reaction the sad truth is all the extra scrutiny only serves to mask other possible murderers not expose them! Anyone with the brains to be a doctor has the brains to hide behind the mounds of paperwork generated where no such 'shield' previously existed!
Nah, the modern destruction of that trust is the hospital/insurance scam that is modern "medicine".
@@jonathanwhite3507 my trust in doctors was shattered when my OBYGN told me i wasted tax dollars stopping the miscarriage of my daughter.
Her treatment and "care" for me gave me medical ptsd and an extreme distrust and hate for American doctors and hospitals.
@@katiearcher4475 wow, that doctor violated their oath with those words, I'm so sorry you went through that.
We can't get away with it nowadays, after the opioid crisis I get reamed in triplicate for prescribing any drug that the patient could potentially "enjoy too much", including diazepam for alcohol withdrawal, oxycontin for palliative care patients or fuck me, even panadeine forte for toothache.
I have two suggested cases for you if you're interested. The first is a group of serial killers that operated out of Chicago called the Ripper Crew. The reason I suggest this group is that there are so many strange things surrounding them that I think it's a good fit for this channel. For example, the leader of The Ripper Crew worked for John Wayne Gacy before becoming a killer himself. That in itself is very interesting and should provide for some great commentary.
My second suggestion is one of the most cunning and ruthless killers I have ever studied. His name is Israel Keys and he went all over the United States to find his victims. I honestly believe had he not broken his cardinal rules he would still be killing innocent people today. During my criminal psychology studies in college one of my professors called Keyes "The worst case, nightmare senario for serial killers." This guy was as bad as they come, an absolute monster....
Warning: Both cases contain some of the worst crimes known to man.
Addendum- Most people in the states do just fine with the police and the statistics bare this out. There are issues in 9 cities in the US with issues but the mass majority do not.
british people: he killed two double decker buses worth of people
me, an american: how many is that in football fields?
Your commentary on this one is brilliant! Great job! :)
I would love to hear you guys cover David Parker Ray aka “The Toy Box Killer.” His crimes are extremely gruesome and truly the stuff of torturous nightmares. In my opinion, the most evil to ever walk the high desert of New Mexico.
Is that the guy who kidnapped young women and his daughter helped him and they tortured them in his "custom" van?
Being from the hyde area, this hits way too close to home, its scary
If you're looking for a similar case there was a nurse working at Stepping Hill Hospital in the Greater Manchester area that put insulin in IV bags and murdered a good few of her patients and that was quite recently.
Got a great reputation haven't we
"He really loved a good cup of tea before a kill" . . . OMG . . . LOL! Callum, you're a writing mastermind. What an entertaining script. Thank you.
I just had a second nephew, he’s a few months old. I have my Abuela, she’s almost 70. If someone had harmed them, especially if they had killed them, I would pummel their faces with my bare hands until cerebral fluid comes out of their nose. The cruelty, the rage… I can’t. Those poor women… I hope their families are well.
I am also from Nottingham, but When you did your bit about having a cold and morphine clearing it right up reminded me of Blackadders doctor scene when the doctor prescribes leeches for everything lol
“I’m giving all my money to the Doctor, burn me.” So… Anyone wanna talk about how that’s basically the plot of Knives Out?
Episode 2? I thought this was like number 3 or 4 it's hard to keep track of Simon and his takeover of youtube.
Edit: also your coffee mug looks like my late father's mug, stained from every day multiple times a day use.
I think it is the second one he recorded but yes, its actually not the second one he uploaded to youtube
It is actually second because we have 1 short(the nun) and a christmas special.
@@MelniaShadow well a short is still an episode as is a cristmas special...
I have a mug like that, 'cept it's made of metal, used to use china but I could never get a grip.
Shipman was my godmother's doctor during both of her pregnancies. She said he seemed perfectly normal, even recommending him to one of her relatives when they complained about their own doctor
>Discussing examples of horrendous serial killers compared to old Harry here.
>Cheery jazz playing happily in the background.
Nice contrast, I like your style
The old dear tutting in the waiting room as Shipman was being confronted. I can only imagine how many messed up things happened because someone said the words, "don't make a fuss".
Super writing as always, and presentation by Simon, as always.