@@eliplayer2122 it is an excuse because I am a self taught musician. I learnt most of what I know online from TH-cam and Twitch streams of my favourite musicians. It can be done. I must say the hardest part of that is the starting because you just don't know where to start. Having a musician friend or even taking a few classes online can help you get started, but nevertheless it's far from impossible learning all of this and using the tools for absolutely free... Of course not taking into consideration the internet and electricity bills and stuff lol 😂
Some of the very best Musescore 4 composing demonstrations that I have heard so far. Really great composition here! And to think this is available as a free tool for composers.
I was also untrained for my first couple years as a composer, and it was a lot of trial and error myself! It’s really cool how far that’ll get you though! Plus, I think you’re on a great track right now with what you got here! It’ll only get better! Keep composing! Best wishes!
My goodness, I am enjoying this immensely. You are correct that the balance is definitely better on this one with the woodwinds. I love how each instrument has their moment to shine through the texture. I also really enjoy the little surprise moments where the brass comes in really strong after the woodwinds and strings have this light, quiet moment. This piece feels very "death of that one supporting character who didn't deserve to die" and my goodness, it's just so good.
I'm so glad you are, thanks! Yes, that's a rather good interpretation. I really appreciate it when people come up with a scene in their heads from something I've written as, most of the time, I don't have one in mind. This one, to me, always sounded like dawn breaking and sunrise for the first coupe of minutes, but then it goes awry!
The amount of new composers who just bang out Musescore content onto youtube because of the "send to youtube" button is crazy not complaining though, I;m one of them!!
Wow! Yes, of course you may, I would be greatly honoured. If they agree, I can provide parts with phrasing but someone will need to do the bowing marks (I'm not a string player!).
Hi, Jeff: I enjoyed listening to your piece. I am a seasoned user of Musescore (since version 2) and I was very impressed with your technical recording. May I ask what you use for your sounds and mixing? That must have taken a lot of work!
Hi John, thank you very much! Yes, it was rather a lot of work but (as you'll probably concur) it is a rather absorbing and enjoyable way to pass the time! This one is pure Musescore 4.0 - all of the sounds are Musescore 4’s free Muse Sounds with nothing added from other sources/VST/etc., so Musescore mix down and export to WAV. I have recently been experimenting with exporting dry (no reverb) WAV sub-mixes (i.e. separate stems, for woodwind, brass, percussion & strings) to Logic Pro where they can individually be EQ’ed, small balance adjustments made and a higher quality reverb added. And the sound improves considerably, as you might expect, so my next video (cello concerto, adagio movement) will using that approach, so do keep an ear open for it! Thanks again, and all the best, Jeff
The aim was to use 2 short motifs, one ascending (e.g. measure 9 flute), one descending (e.g. measure 49 oboe) plus variations of them, and try to interweave them. The full melody that each motif belongs to comes at measure 100 (french horns) and 116 (tutti), which is a bit of an odd way around…rather like laying out all the component parts and then assembling them at the end. That was the idea, anyway.
Are we nearing the point where this can be a viable alternative to sample libraries then? Very hard to get a realistic sound from a DAW depending on the piece
I wonder. I find sample libraries and piano roll editing get right in the way of the creative process and I spend more time fighting with the technology than writing music. And it's too easy to orchestrate badly with them. Musescore 4 is so immediate and the results are sonically 7/10, which is fine for me as I'm not trying to make cinematic mockups for a film director.
Thank you very much Devin! Yes, it's straight out of Musescore 4.0 with only Muse Sounds, nothing added, no VSTs, no EQ, stock Muse Reverb. But...it sounds absolutely horrible in Musescore 4.2 with out of tune/time woodwinds and all the other faults they introduced with it :(
2:45 I think your Harp part complicated all that chromatic stuff is hard on harp and based off first glance,, It'd take a good chunk of work just to play those few measures also if there's a certain note, not sure if it's a B or a Bb but if its a Bb those measures could possibly be unplayable?
Interesting question! I struggled with this one which is why the thumbnail has horns on it and not a mountain or something else to give you a clue. The opening section to me always evokes sunrise into and out of the clouds and finally emerging into clear sky. But then it all goes wrong after that🤣
@@JeffWardMusic i also thought that a sunrise fits the beginning, sunset in the middle of the work and it's all fff with the cymbals and the final is the night, which is calm. Is pretty much the structure of Eine Alpensinfonie of R. Strauss.
@@TohlerCompositor That's a great analysis...I'll go with that! Strauss, yes, good point...I've not heard the Alpine Symphony since 1979 when I was an assistant sound engineer and we recorded it for an album...I got the job of editing all the takes together (1/4" tape and razorblades in those days) so some of it must have stuck in my subconscious!
Really wonderful composition. We live in a world where all of this is available for free. No excuse not to make music now.
Thanks!
My excuse is i dont know how
@@eliplayer2122 it is an excuse because I am a self taught musician. I learnt most of what I know online from TH-cam and Twitch streams of my favourite musicians. It can be done. I must say the hardest part of that is the starting because you just don't know where to start. Having a musician friend or even taking a few classes online can help you get started, but nevertheless it's far from impossible learning all of this and using the tools for absolutely free... Of course not taking into consideration the internet and electricity bills and stuff lol 😂
Some of the very best Musescore 4 composing demonstrations that I have heard so far. Really great composition here! And to think this is available as a free tool for composers.
Thank you very much!
Beautiful composition! I love your use of modulations, and your textures/ orchestration is very intriguing as well!
Thank you very much Vincent. I'm very much experimenting with textures, having no training in this means it's all trial and error!
I was also untrained for my first couple years as a composer, and it was a lot of trial and error myself! It’s really cool how far that’ll get you though! Plus, I think you’re on a great track right now with what you got here! It’ll only get better! Keep composing! Best wishes!
My goodness, I am enjoying this immensely. You are correct that the balance is definitely better on this one with the woodwinds. I love how each instrument has their moment to shine through the texture. I also really enjoy the little surprise moments where the brass comes in really strong after the woodwinds and strings have this light, quiet moment. This piece feels very "death of that one supporting character who didn't deserve to die" and my goodness, it's just so good.
I'm so glad you are, thanks! Yes, that's a rather good interpretation. I really appreciate it when people come up with a scene in their heads from something I've written as, most of the time, I don't have one in mind. This one, to me, always sounded like dawn breaking and sunrise for the first coupe of minutes, but then it goes awry!
Brilliant.
Thank you very much!
Amazing
Thank you!
I love the rhythmic recall.
that amazing!!!!! i love it!!!
Thank you!
The amount of new composers who just bang out Musescore content onto youtube because of the "send to youtube" button is crazy
not complaining though, I;m one of them!!
I didn't even know there was a "send to youtube" button🤣 I could have saved hours of work in Final Cut Pro!
Amazing composition! Kudos.
Thank you very much!
Beautiful.
Thank you!
Fantastic! Sounding great Jeff! (:
Thank you very much Kalynn!
Sehr schön, das ist wirklich sehr schön. Ich wünsche dir ein schönes Wochenende. :-)
Danke schön! Habe auch ein gutes Wochenende!
This is really good. Love it!
Thanks very much!
Wonderful music!
Thanks very much!
Jeff, This is my description of this piece- it like taking a sledge hammer to hit a thumb tack in melting butter= Excellent.
Thank you very much Harold. So glad you like it! Spot-on description....exactly what I was going for🤣
Beautiful. You can be proud of yourself
Thank you very much Didier!
great, I like it ... will be a good intro for a movie or game intro !
Thanks! It probably would!
Amazing work!
Thanks very much!
This is amazing! (from a horn player)
Thank you very much!
Lovely
Thank you very much!
It gives off Disney vibes.
Superbe
Merci beaucoup Jean-Pierre!
We are creating a new symphonic orchestra with some friends in Lille, North of France. Can I propose your piece to be played as our first one ? :)
Wow! Yes, of course you may, I would be greatly honoured. If they agree, I can provide parts with phrasing but someone will need to do the bowing marks (I'm not a string player!).
Yes, can you send me parts and score please ? The maestro want to have a look ! @@JeffWardMusic
Hi, Jeff: I enjoyed listening to your piece. I am a seasoned user of Musescore (since version 2) and I was very impressed with your technical recording. May I ask what you use for your sounds and mixing? That must have taken a lot of work!
Hi John, thank you very much! Yes, it was rather a lot of work but (as you'll probably concur) it is a rather absorbing and enjoyable way to pass the time! This one is pure Musescore 4.0 - all of the sounds are Musescore 4’s free Muse Sounds with nothing added from other sources/VST/etc., so Musescore mix down and export to WAV. I have recently been experimenting with exporting dry (no reverb) WAV sub-mixes (i.e. separate stems, for woodwind, brass, percussion & strings) to Logic Pro where they can individually be EQ’ed, small balance adjustments made and a higher quality reverb added. And the sound improves considerably, as you might expect, so my next video (cello concerto, adagio movement) will using that approach, so do keep an ear open for it! Thanks again, and all the best, Jeff
Great music! Is there any sheet music available in the musescore community? Could you provide a link to the sheet music? Thank you very much.
Thank you! Yes by chance I've already put this one and 2 others on Musescore...musescore.com/user/32381594
@@JeffWardMusic Thank you very much.
Very cool - wonderful sound textures and mood. Do you use a midi keyboard for note entry or just note input through Musescore?
Thank you! I just use a mouse and computer keyboard, so no midi.
Hey can you tell me whether I can compose score with my macbook air 8gb ram using musescore 4
Should be no problem at all. Musescore 4 uses about 700Mb of RAM for me, so 8gb should be fine.
Is there a main motif of triumphant minor-to-major “switches”, here?
The aim was to use 2 short motifs, one ascending (e.g. measure 9 flute), one descending (e.g. measure 49 oboe) plus variations of them, and try to interweave them. The full melody that each motif belongs to comes at measure 100 (french horns) and 116 (tutti), which is a bit of an odd way around…rather like laying out all the component parts and then assembling them at the end. That was the idea, anyway.
Are we nearing the point where this can be a viable alternative to sample libraries then? Very hard to get a realistic sound from a DAW depending on the piece
I wonder. I find sample libraries and piano roll editing get right in the way of the creative process and I spend more time fighting with the technology than writing music. And it's too easy to orchestrate badly with them. Musescore 4 is so immediate and the results are sonically 7/10, which is fine for me as I'm not trying to make cinematic mockups for a film director.
this is amazing, is it entirely musesounds or were there any 3rd party vsts?
Thank you very much Devin! Yes, it's straight out of Musescore 4.0 with only Muse Sounds, nothing added, no VSTs, no EQ, stock Muse Reverb. But...it sounds absolutely horrible in Musescore 4.2 with out of tune/time woodwinds and all the other faults they introduced with it :(
2:45 I think your Harp part complicated all that chromatic stuff is hard on harp and based off first glance,, It'd take a good chunk of work just to play those few measures also if there's a certain note, not sure if it's a B or a Bb but if its a Bb those measures could possibly be unplayable?
It may indeed not be payable Emilio, but since the chances of anyone ever playing it for real are exactly zero, I'm not too worried!
Do you sell these for film scores?
I'm always open to offers!😀
How would you name this piece? In an artistic way if you know what I mean
Interesting question! I struggled with this one which is why the thumbnail has horns on it and not a mountain or something else to give you a clue. The opening section to me always evokes sunrise into and out of the clouds and finally emerging into clear sky. But then it all goes wrong after that🤣
@@JeffWardMusic i also thought that a sunrise fits the beginning, sunset in the middle of the work and it's all fff with the cymbals and the final is the night, which is calm. Is pretty much the structure of Eine Alpensinfonie of R. Strauss.
@@TohlerCompositor That's a great analysis...I'll go with that! Strauss, yes, good point...I've not heard the Alpine Symphony since 1979 when I was an assistant sound engineer and we recorded it for an album...I got the job of editing all the takes together (1/4" tape and razorblades in those days) so some of it must have stuck in my subconscious!