Bit late to this party but that first 17min really is important, and especially for me and what I do I take a lot from these. For me it's always been about building something behind the scenes so that I can afford to do the trips or races I want to do, rather being told what I have to do. Transparency with my audience is the cornerstone of my channel and what I do, and although I've spoken about how I make a living and create funding for my own adventures I think I need to cover it more often after seeing this. Cade, and what this channel has become, has been a breath of fresh air in this cycling space and I absolutely love how you genuinely care about the community. Very relatable and it's why I keep coming back.
This is exactly how Influencers should be with transparency. For product endorsements and paid sponsored video content. The amount they get paid is acceptable to keep privately. If they choose not declare it.
I like that they talk about how they fund cool ideas and trips. But I think they have a fair bit to learn about advertising standards. What is declared and not declared on the channel doesn’t seem to be consistent and non of their titles/thumbnails have AD on them when some videos would definitely be defined as ads in the UK.
We call it "commuting tempo" here. The rules are: if someone passes you, you've lost. If you pass them after being passed, you've still lost but so have they.
About the aluminium, there is a huge difference between different aloys (added metals copper, titanium,...). A huge factor is also the heattreatment. I often wonder if Aluminium frames have had enough RND time/resources for road racing. They were only the go-to frame for a very short period at the end of the 90's, but quickly replaced by carbon.
I would've liked to hear them talk more about the crossover between QA/QC and the frame materials. Typically, the cheaper models do have poor QA/QC resulting in things like shoddy BB shells etc. but even then it still happens with high end carbon frames. They didn't really talk about that - in fact they actually said most things are at a decent standard, which isn't really true when you look at tolerances.
Some aluminium alloys used on frames are more prone to corrosion and have to be painted to prevent water bourne contaminants contacting it. That can be a problem with chips etc being an entry point. Something like 6061 T6 can be exposed to weather and won’t corrode in the same way if the paint is chipped etc.
Guys this is really really good, your honesty about the sponsor is actually brilliant content and for me has hugely increased your credibility. Love this approach of honesty and openness. Its also been very good that youve been doing entry level bikes.
One of the most genuine podcast episodes I’ve ever listened to, you give a crap about your audience and what they wanna hear and I’m all here the journey x
I have only 3 sets of carbon rim brake wheels. They all brake very well. On one bike, I needed to upgrade to Ultegra rim brake calipers ,this made a big difference! I am also very attentive to the brake pad choice (different braking surfaces require specific products) My Stable includes rim and disc, I like them both.
For stiffness of a frame: Extruded aluminum or carbon to a shape that the engineer and designers of the frames will get the parts of frames formed to. This shape is what will drive the stiffness feel to a frame. The grade of aluminum or carbon used in different areas will produce different results. In carbon, the layering and glue will also play a part in flexing and any stiffness a rider will feel. Butted is a forming process done at ends of the tubing of steel or aluminum. It generally means that at the ends they have more material to make the weld. Aluminum is usually advertised as triple butted, where steel is typically advertised as double butted. This process also has the inner parts of the tubing thought of as pushed out towards the ends making the overall tube lighter and stronger at the ends. This too will produce a different result in feel and weight of a frame.
One of my favorite podcasts, along with Chris Miller podcast. It’s like guys sitting at a bar just talking bike stuff for an hour. Perfect mix of tech, opinion, and reality.
On the topic of 'greetings', in France, some random people (mostly pedestrians) greeted me, a touring cyclist, with 'courage!', and I almost teared up every time because I thought that's just so sweet and indeed encouraging.
It’s great to see you continue to want to deliver projects and products that speak to the audience. Would you ever consider doing a review/sponsorship with Planet X and the entry level varient of EC-130?
Everyone likes to get on about how rim brake performance are “still fine” or “still great”… sure. But, the primary reason to moving to disc brakes, and a significant reason why pro teams & manufacturers are switching to them is because they allow for wider tires & more tire clearance, and also allow for full carbon rims without compromising the wheels or compromising with heavier aluminum braking surfaces bonded onto carbon rims. The added benefit of a little bit better stopping power in the dry & significantly better stopping power in the wet, are really just bonuses, IMO.
What benefit are wider tyres to pro teams? My Supersix Evo (rimbrake) from 2019 can run 28mm although I run 25mm. Why run any wider for racing? And no pro teams I know of were compromising with “heavy” alu/carbon wheels. Pro disc bikes are only now approaching the UCI 6.8kg lower limit; something rim brake bikes could do with ease well over a decade ago
@@lasrachtech.1341 28s are wide tires. My 10 yr old rim brake R3, which I I recently sold could hold max 25 & that was barely scraping the frame. To spec, 23s were the widest that was “supposed” to be run on them.
@@nicholascarolan2193 I don’t understand what you’re saying. Most race bikes from 10+ years ago could not handle any tires wider than 23mm unless being run off-spec & breaking warranty. Teams wanted to run wider tires than 23mm for aero advantage & reduced rolling resistance & they wanted full carbon rims - which carbon braking surfaces are a liability especially in the high mountains. Why is this so hard to understand?
You guys have absolutely nailed it, by that I mean the connect between you and us, aside from your individual lovable characters,Honesty (massive in today's auto sceptical SM world), Integrity, Humour and just bloody good product and tech advice you're way beyond other channels and long may it continue. Massive thumbs up to all at CM. Keep doing what your doing. Edit- We need a CM lock stock and barrel bike pack road trip, the lot of you.
Yes as an American-the south is very nice. However, it’s 90 to 100 degrees everyday for 7 months with a 90% humidity. So, we only ride bikes at night or early in the AM during summer…I don’t see anyone unless fall months.
For sponsors I really like what Gamers Nexus are doing. Their videos if sponsored, are sponsored by a specific product, that they deem good. Any brand will have good and maybe not so good products. Focusing on the ones you yourself can stand behind, is like a win win for all. Video sponsored, manufacturer paid and happy viewer, since they will get a good product. Loved your stuff especially on the cheaper end of things. Have a good one
Absolutely love how genuine you guys are with reviews and comments. Personally, I would love to see a show on winter clothing, as a head up bum down gravel rider that likes to keep warm while out riding.
FYI regarding the crank recall - those costs to Shimano cover bike shop inspection fees, marketing, manufacturing and shipping - a few quick calculations show that failure rates appear to be well below 1%….
The Garmin boat motors are integrated with their GPS capabilities, allowing the motor to slowly, but autonomously navigate the boat along a pre-approved route!
I don't have the space or money to have multiple bikes at the moment, so a gravel bike is perfect for me. I throw on 28mm conti GPs and use it as a pretty nice endurance bike, throw on the 40mm gravel tires it came with to explore dirt and gravel and for the winter, I have 50mm spiked winter tires. I'm not gonna do any mountain biking or road racing, so the one bike is all I need
Swapped my road bike for Gravel, Roads are so knackered around where I live and its way more comfortable, still super quick and use it everywhere. Went for the Cube Nuroad Pro and its unbelievably good
Best cycling pod out there! Appreciate all the entertaining and relevant content. Most importantly, you're always committed to growing the cycling community. Speaking to the friendliness of the riding community. I'm from Juneau, Alaska but live in work in the French region of Switzerland. I ride road and gravel. Always wave at fellow cyclists but frequently get a surprised look in response from other riders with a wave or no wave at all. I see motorcycles always honk and wave at each other. Seems like the cycling community should be just as much, if not more friendly than motorists 🤔Love to hear you guys show so much love on the bicycle. Makes me wanna ride in Newcastle ❤ Again, big thanks for all your work and being friendly cyclists. Take care
The non-racing, pretend racer roadie scene is, and always has been, rather snooty unfortunately. For some reason it brings out the vain wannabe in people.
Great channel guys, I think a move in content was the inevitable to keep it interesting. As for sponsors it is needed and appreciate you explaining things and good luck going forward, I believe it was always clear on the channel who was sponsoring it. I’ve stopped following a certain Lancashire lass due to no unique content and what I seen as hidden product placement. “Enjoy the ride”
Glad you _finally_ got to the revelation that the carbon wheels are _the_ limiting factor (aka culprit) for rim brake bikes. My rim brakes stop great on alloy wheels.
It all depends on the quality of the carbon rims. I run rim brakes on Campagnolo Bora rims.. they have a special milled surface and stop on a dime. (You have to use the sacrificial red campag brake shoes though)
@@notkaty my point was that Francis, et al. have never made that distinction for their followers, previously stating "just get disc brakes" - _implying_ rim brakes don't cut it, without qualification
I bet Jimmy is right about an all-road style bike. My wife and I have quite old bikes and weve both said our next bike will be a 'gravel' bike that can also go on road. We'll each have two sets of wheels, which are a lot smaller than a whole bike and easier to store, one slick one gravel specific. We live in Arizona where we do have a lot of amazing Public Lands so we can explore a ton with a gravel bike. Also on Emilys point of friendly Americans, it changes all over the place. When I grew up in Minnesota, very very north, we had a reputation as being 'Minnesota Nice'. When I moved to AZ, the people I ran into were much more reserved and less friendly. That didnt stop me from talking to strangers though haha
I’ve been watching Francis’ channel since the beginning and find the new format a little frustrating, but I understand the reason and still enjoy the content. I sometimes am a little grumpy in the comments as I assume it’s all helpful feedback and hope it’s never taken personally. You’re all good eggs and engaging characters 👍. I couldn’t give a rats arse how you guys raise income - to me, your videos are free and I welcome any sponsorship you want to accept. I don’t get “influenced” by TH-cam channels about what to buy…I like to research my purchases pretty thoroughly.
I think it would be great to have good mid reach endurance road calipers on 35mm tires as a standard lower cost bike. Wider tires are better, but rim breaks can be good, easier, and cheaper. The problem I have with rim breaks is that we can only get narrower tires on them.
State of UK roads, especially in Winter, my Canyon Grizl gravel bike has been bike of choice over and over again - if the roads don't improve I can see 'grvl' bikes being the mainstay for most outings as they're fast enough when your avoiding pots holes that can damage cars and road debris everywhere!
Aw mate this is so accurate for me too. I want to build/buy one too, (planning on a bike fit first though) there’s loads of trails and canal pathways near to me which would mean I can try new spots I can’t take my road bike despite trying. The roads are fucking shocking after this winter too. Dying to have sometime I can ride on gnarlier terrain!
I love the new set up of the channel not that I didn't like when Francis was solo but this set up is great and so many diverse people, and the channel can do different areas of cycling like James and Nick 😁 my hope is you all get bigger but keeping your humility in all you do. Keep up the good job.
Let me start by saying that I am a big Francis Cade fan ... I've watched his videos pretty much since the start of his channel and I definitely prefer the old, "daily" vlogs with its cast of colorful characters, adventures and off the beaten path races. On the other hand, it's clear that from a total subscriber number perspective this model has proven to be incredibly successful. I don't watch the majority of these videos but I wish you luck in your new business venture. Very glad to hear that Francis is going on a road trip. Hopefully, it will include some of his old comrades. Suerte
"Harshness" of aluminum frames was a thing when people were riding 21mm tires at 120psi. Tubeless 28s at 70 psi have solved that problem. The frames themselves are also far better engineered and interesting to look at these days due to the pervasive use of hydroforming. The Allez Sprint, Emonda ALR and CAAD 13 are all fantastic bikes. I challenge anyone to ride those bikes and justify the huge cost increase for the comparable carbon frame.
Everything is moving to gravel because British road are very poor, traffic is heavy and driving is terrible. It’s just safer and more interesting off the road
I’d love for you (& Nick) to do bracket test videos of bikes. Maybe a top 5 discussion segment on the pod. I.e. These are our top 5 gravel bikes £1000-£1999.
'Rim brakes keep bikes cheep'...and light, and simple to maintain, and look good, and work really well. But yeah don't mix with carbon rims 100% agree.
I have a lower end aluminium frame but it rides very well. There's nothing wrong with it. Fork is full carbon, so is the seatpost. Wheels are a bit heavy but I'm going to swap with some carbon 50mm wheels which should save 400 to 600 grams. (new tires will also save some weight) Maybe switch to carbon bars in the future and potentially put on a lighter (electronic) groupset. I can't see myself lusting after a carbon bike (much more expensive) because I wouldn't get much value out of it.
You can also get a cheaper carbon frame. U don't need to choose from the known brands... most also get their frames from China and brand them. Will get an aluminium frame then build it with 105 group set.
@@krissk77 that's completely true! I've looked a lot at chinese manufacturers and there are plenty that look like good quality. The main issue with Chinese frames is that they are often really really aggressive and since I'm no Vingegaard I can't ride those bikes. I ride endurance bikes and I don't see those often from Chinese brands...
Regarding the fake charger, Amazon has an issue that they put all product items in a common bin. So, if you order a charger from the "Samsung Amazon store" it gets pulled out from the same bin as the retailer selling the 'fake charger'. I was wondering this after getting several obvious fake products from Philips and Oral-B, that I ordered from their "Amazon store". After doing some research I found a forum of retailers who use Amazon, and were having issues with their products being mixed with Chinese copies. At this point, if I want to be sure it comes from the retailer, I buy it in a store or directly from the manufacture.
I’m with Francis base layers for cycling you don’t need, but when I’m hiking I never walk without one, and in the summer I wear a really lightweight rab long sleeve base layer instead of t shirts because I burn way to easy 😂
With the videoing a trip thing, i find the iphone live photos are a perfect middle ground! You get about 3s of video and sometimes some audio too, so they’re a great memory for later
Love your content--even if most of it doesn't really affect me as a casual rider :) it's suggested here that most of Shimano's stuff that they sell (as in, the majority of their profits) is fishing gear; just to be clear (according to what I could find), bike gear IS most of what the sell, about 80% of their sales are for the biking industry, with about 18-19% being fishing gear (the rest, 'other stuff'). Also, regardless if 'turtle/tortoise' is used as a blanket term for either, there IS a technical difference between the two--NOT the same species.
1. Cheap carbon was changing through the years and now evolved to simple thing - the frame will be with thick walls, so the frame weight will be somewhere around 1,5 kilos (with fork) or more. But it gives less chance for frame to break. The same relates to other bike details. I have 2 carbon handlebars from Aliexpress and they are perfectly fine. 2. Couldn't agree more about base layer. It adds just one more warming layer, not cooling or anything. Your cycling jersey has to be properly (well crafted/engineered) ventilated itself. That's what works for cooling and drying.
For Ruth... I would use a GoPro on time-lapse each day, then simply swap to a new SD card daily, or back it up to the cloud or a portable drive. Moments only happen once, a time-lapse would capture those things you want to look back on. And if you stumble across something epic, a couple of button presses and its filming in real time 4k Turn on in the morning, and forget about it. As long as you remember to actually turn it on of course lol
In many places, cars aren't even more abundant - they're just more conspicuous. A few years back, the city I used to live in was trying to elaborate a comprehensive mobility plan, including bike paths. They hired a firm that did a few studies, and the findings were eye opening. First, car ownership was about ~35% of the population; second, in many streets the number of people riding a bike in a given day would outnumber cars 2 or even 3 to 1. Bikes are just _a lot_ more efficient at moving people around, and people do use them, but most of the time we don't notice. Unfortunately the story has a sad ending, and despite the study showing how many people would benefit from better cycling infrastructure, nothing really changed.
30:49 Also consider not only good rim brakes, just use good v brakes or mini v brakes, if they can be fitted. Because they brake even better, when adjusted right, and can make up to some insane tire clearance up to 45mm or 55 at some points. My "trekking" bike has entry level shimano v brakes on it and it slows down pretty well, and although it ways around 15 to 17kgs, I can stop it very fast when going 23 Kp/H or faster.
I love your podcasts. Find them very entertaining, I'm not into ultra light stuff, just prefer a bike I feel comfortable on, I find gravel a bit of a marketing thing, back in the 80s used to do cycle touring on a Dawes super galaxy on routes people would now consider gravel, I do feel sad the dedicated touring bikes are almost extinct, I prefer a triple chainset for touring.
You just saved me a lot of money. Instead of buying a new bike I'll stick with my 1992 (3 x7 XTR) rigid "MtB" with an aluminium frame and a nice road geometry. Rides really well and fast with wide road tires, can handle massive width tires. 3 downsides: no handlebar with drops, no fancy name like "Gravelbike", weighs a ton.
I very much appreciate the transparency about the finances. I personally would support your Patreon if that still helps you in the newer Cade Media format. I am very excited for new bikepacking content, as I re-watch Project Vietnam and Project USA. Also, if it became logistically possible, I would pay a premium to be able to ride one day of a route with Jimmi, Francis, and other Cade Media cast of characters.
Here in not so sunny North Herts a gravel bike doesnt cut it off road between September and May, simply too muddy. For general riding on quiet rural roads my tank like 2021 Genesis Croix De Fer, shod with 45mm gravel tyres copes admirably with potholes. Horses for courses. If using my roadbike i often travel on busier roads but then i have to mix it up with 44 tonne Eddie Stobart and chums.
Loved the podcast as always, only recently found your channel after get back into cycling this year. Have been binging the old episodes now too. Keep up the great work!
Really enjoying this. I’m more of an mtb rider but with a 20 month old and having limited time I spend about 70-80% of my time on drop bar bikes either gravel bike to work or road bike at the weekend. I have a tarmac SL7 which I have had from nearly new so about 12 years. Thinking of getting an Aethos Expert with ultegra and carbon rims. If I get that, ride it twice a week for the next 15 years then it seems to work out at about £5 a ride and the bike should still be worth something. I’m 36 now so getting a ‘race bike’ now as I feel I would get frustrated by not being able to ride as fast as I could during lockdown.
Great video/podcast, as per usual. I have a question on the Shimano crank recall. How can Shimano give a figure on what the recall has cost them? I took two sets of cranks to a large local Shimano Dealer three months ago. I only found ou sevsn days ago, that they hadn't even stripped them down and checked them yet, and had forgotten that they have even got them on the premises. So, at this point in time, it's not known whether they will need to be replaced or not. Surely, Shimano's statement should be 'it has cost us £xxxxx to date'. I'm sure that there must be other people who haven't had their cranks checked or possibly replaced yet.
8:31 That is totally right, when it comes to Decathlon. Another brand that gives you also "more" for your money is "Cube". I mean their entry level bikes are not better than the decathlon ones but many models are coming with disc brakes in the entry level section. Personally I think that 899 is too much for entry level biking. I would like to get one with hydraulic brakes and know that I have to spend 1,5K for that. But when 899 is entry level, I then don't have a problem to go with 1,5K for the better one instead. Anyway, I like those product review videos about bikes but also equipment a lot, it does not matter if it is Aliexpress stuff, or just the next dura ace or so. You seem honest and I like that about the content here in general.
Agreed. On the subject of big box stores and "Loads of stuff in the bike industry we should be talking about", there are more Go Outdoors stores in the UK than there are Decathlon. They have an in-house brand (Calibre) like Decathlon, Evans and Halfords; and there are other brands they represent (Polygon and Jamis). A 4-way deathmatch of UK big box store bikes has to happen at some point :)
@@NunoLima1337 Cade Media made a video about a halfords bike, when I remember correctly. It was a red one, whose looks I personally dispised. But yes there are cheap brands of some stores. But you might need to dive deep into that because they might not really state the components on their site or the size. But Triban is a good example, I am just a bit annoyed that they got rid of the rim brake version because I always wanted to test it out.
51:00 I got myself a GoPro max 360 Kamera, but could have been any 360 cam. Because I can mount it on the bike or just hold it in a (selfie) stick and afterwards reframe as I want. No need to take out the phone and risk it to drop while riding 😮
I picked up my aluminium Giant Contend AR 1 this week. It weighs 9.5kg and (discounted) cost £1,450. It has hydraulic disks, Shimano 105 2x11, etc. I’ve never ridden a carbon frame but it rides really nicely and cost around half of a similar carbon bike like the Defy. I’m very happy with my purchase for now. Carbon next time maybe…
Other people waving back - if I'm on my road bike in the summer the majority do, in the winter on my hybrid it's far less, even though I'm wearing the same gear. And base layers - they are a great for quite a few months of the year as I live in Scotland!
If road cycling is dead, then it was dead for a long time already. Moving away from razor thin tubular, for example, was surely a bigger change then anything that happened recently. Bikes are just evolving, same as always. Beware of falling into the "Things aren't the same as they were back in my day!" mindset. Great pod as usual, I enjoyed listening to it :)
Lifestyle advertising will never end. There's been plenty of studies that show even when people know its happening, it still produces the desired outcome of the marketeer.
The roads here in caldwell tx are gravel rock and tar. Cars flying past throw the gravel all over. If you try to focus on going you have to worry about getting sucked into the deep gravel on the side of the road. Side roads are even worse. Thank God I ride a mtb/gravel style bike. 100mm up front and wide tires. Plus run a 1x10. There aren't really "hills" in texas. Just man made humps made with a crap ton of sand to make the humps. I've almost crashed because of the gravel on the side of the roads.
On the "no one cares about your bike" topic: I ride an All-City which has a nice looking (but not particularly extreme) two-tone paint job, and I have gotten compliments on the trails and during races here and there. It's not custom or anything, they just make them nice looking from the factory and folks appreciate it I guess.
Hi guys, I love what you guys are trying to create, I watch pretty much everything you put out and I wish you and everyone involved the very best for the future, for sure I will be with you. One negative point I have though is, you spend a lot of time talking about yourselves!!! No need! Not interested, I'm pretty sure not many folk are. You're supposed to be talking about bike stuff! 20mins in and you're still talking about yourselves. Get to the good stuff!!! 😉 Keep pedalling 👍
In the video you mention that the old Planet X carbon frames were too flexible @24:40. I have recently been looking at the latest Planet X bikes (EC130 and Pro Carbon) as a potential upgrade from a 10yr old Boardman Aluminium road bike. Does this option still hold true with the Planet X carbon road bikes that are being manufactured now? Thnx in advance for any insight.
Road cycling is not dead. But, I bought a gravel bike in December and I have had so much fun on it, it will be a tough call to switch back to the road bike in spring. The roads in Cardiff are shit, potholes everywhere, not a problem on the gravel bike. Doing a 250 mile bike packing trip over Easter, gravel bike. The ability to head down a gravel fire road when out on a ride, go do the shopping with some panniers on, winter riding, the list goes on. I have few century rides coming up which I will definitely do on the road bike (and likely feel even more zippy comparatively) other than that hard to see me choosing road bike for weekend rides
The common snapping turtle in the US is east of the Rocky mountains. Shouldn't have any in Death Valley! But they're nasty bad-tempered things and they get big, 20 pounds or more commonly, up to about 75 pouds and they live to be over 100. On the southern portion of their range is the Alligator snapping turtle and that gets to be commonly around 50 pounds and up to well over 200 pounds and one of the very few things that the common snapping turtle has to fear in the wild.
Norcal cyclist here, I've noticed that Old School riders greet and wave to other roadies, new school (post Lance boom) do not, it's a very marked difference, these are the same guys that block traffic lanes unnecessarily and aggravate traffic. I took an unofficial poll at a couple of club rides and most agreed or had similar experiences. Generalization of course, not every new rider does this...
@24:28 - the difference between say a Carrera TdF LE or a Dawes Giro 300 and say, a Mondiale or a Columbus Starship or EM2 frame, is complete night and day. You can ride into battle with the latter, you would winter train on the former. the Carrera, Dawes etc feel dead, heavy, sluggish. Alu is like steel in that theres all sorts of grades and tubes, to suit all needs and to achieve the desired ride characteristics. thanks. m
A very interesting hour of discussion. A few of the unpopular opinions I would mention: * Base layers. Absolutely necessary when it gets cold. So below minus 5c. Minus 15c and below, you want that sweat away from your skin ASAP. * Strength training. For cyclists, I'd say it's very important. It's a non-impact sport, and to avoid bone density losses, resistance training is key. I agree with your point on mobility too. Increased muscle mass gives you a bit more protection if you crash too, but fundamentally is vital for long term health into old age. Frailty is lethal. * Road cycling is dead. I find that it's a bit odd that gravel bikes are so popular in the UK when there is so little actual gravel. I love gravel, and ride endless gravel here in Sweden, but sometimes it's just really nice to go very fast, so out comes the road bike. Please consider a visit to Southern Sweden if you want some truly world class gravel. I believe you guys must know Josh Reid. He and I have ridden here, so will be able to give you a fuller picture of the potential here.
@@andrewcharlesworth2512 yeah, fair point. I'm quite comfortable on the road here on 25mm tyres at 115psi with 102kg bw. That just doesn't work back in the UK
The reasonably priced high-end aluminum frames can have better degrees of flex due to tube geometry/forming/butting and better welding tech that minimize concerns of old alu frames such as fatigue life and weld-heated stress fractures. TL;DR alu frames used to be harsh because the way to make them was rubbish compared to current times. now, they're quite comfy.
I don’t know if I’m representative of the rest of the audience, but I don’t mind advertising when it’s disclosed, yet it’s really grating when it’s not. I enjoy GCN’s content, because they readily disclose the sponsorships, and I understand their motivations. However smaller creators who are very obviously pitching products to an audience without disclosing the fact they’re being paid for said content, pisses me off. I AM more likely to consider products that are being used by content creators I like, however I’m still going to investigate the product, and will make my own decision based on what I learn. So, the advertising is beneficial as it puts the product forward to my consideration, but it’s by no means a guarantee of sales.
US friendliness is all over that place, but generally the center is friendly and the coasts aren’t as much. East coast is aggressive externally, but sweethearts underneath and the west coast is passive aggressive so nice-ish to your face, but more concerned about themselves. Seattle where I now live don’t wave ever unless you ride a long way out to the countryside. But Indiana where I’m from is super friendly.
Bit late to this party but that first 17min really is important, and especially for me and what I do I take a lot from these. For me it's always been about building something behind the scenes so that I can afford to do the trips or races I want to do, rather being told what I have to do. Transparency with my audience is the cornerstone of my channel and what I do, and although I've spoken about how I make a living and create funding for my own adventures I think I need to cover it more often after seeing this. Cade, and what this channel has become, has been a breath of fresh air in this cycling space and I absolutely love how you genuinely care about the community. Very relatable and it's why I keep coming back.
I like how open and transparent you guys are with sponsors and where money goes for the channel!
This is exactly how Influencers should be with transparency. For product endorsements and paid sponsored video content.
The amount they get paid is acceptable to keep privately. If they choose not declare it.
I like that they talk about how they fund cool ideas and trips. But I think they have a fair bit to learn about advertising standards. What is declared and not declared on the channel doesn’t seem to be consistent and non of their titles/thumbnails have AD on them when some videos would definitely be defined as ads in the UK.
We call it "commuting tempo" here. The rules are: if someone passes you, you've lost. If you pass them after being passed, you've still lost but so have they.
We call that Cat6
@@coastalson Definitely CAT 6. Everyone loses
About the aluminium, there is a huge difference between different aloys (added metals copper, titanium,...). A huge factor is also the heattreatment. I often wonder if Aluminium frames have had enough RND time/resources for road racing. They were only the go-to frame for a very short period at the end of the 90's, but quickly replaced by carbon.
Great reply.
I would've liked to hear them talk more about the crossover between QA/QC and the frame materials. Typically, the cheaper models do have poor QA/QC resulting in things like shoddy BB shells etc. but even then it still happens with high end carbon frames. They didn't really talk about that - in fact they actually said most things are at a decent standard, which isn't really true when you look at tolerances.
Some aluminium alloys used on frames are more prone to corrosion and have to be painted to prevent water bourne contaminants contacting it. That can be a problem with chips etc being an entry point. Something like 6061 T6 can be exposed to weather and won’t corrode in the same way if the paint is chipped etc.
Seconding this. Huge difference between different aluminium alloys, and big differences can be made in the size and shaping of the tubing.
Right. "Aluminium" frames are really "aluminium alloy", hence big differences are possible between frames.
Guys this is really really good, your honesty about the sponsor is actually brilliant content and for me has hugely increased your credibility. Love this approach of honesty and openness. Its also been very good that youve been doing entry level bikes.
One of the most genuine podcast episodes I’ve ever listened to, you give a crap about your audience and what they wanna hear and I’m all here the journey x
I have only 3 sets of carbon rim brake wheels. They all brake very well. On one bike, I needed to upgrade to Ultegra rim brake calipers ,this made a big difference! I am also very attentive to the brake pad choice (different braking surfaces require specific products) My Stable includes rim and disc, I like them both.
I'm so happy Bike packing is coming back. Those are my absolute favorite videos.
New cyclist and love the channel. The learning, the advice and each of your colourful characters! Thank you 🙏 ❤
I’m just glad you squeezed out the Foil RC vs Addict RC comparison.
For stiffness of a frame: Extruded aluminum or carbon to a shape that the engineer and designers of the frames will get the parts of frames formed to. This shape is what will drive the stiffness feel to a frame. The grade of aluminum or carbon used in different areas will produce different results. In carbon, the layering and glue will also play a part in flexing and any stiffness a rider will feel.
Butted is a forming process done at ends of the tubing of steel or aluminum. It generally means that at the ends they have more material to make the weld. Aluminum is usually advertised as triple butted, where steel is typically advertised as double butted. This process also has the inner parts of the tubing thought of as pushed out towards the ends making the overall tube lighter and stronger at the ends. This too will produce a different result in feel and weight of a frame.
It feels other channels shy away from transparency, where you are being up front and completely open, which the target audience loves. Chapeau 👏
One of my favorite podcasts, along with Chris Miller podcast. It’s like guys sitting at a bar just talking bike stuff for an hour. Perfect mix of tech, opinion, and reality.
Aesthetic is ALWAYS important. But, it appealing to you, not to everyone else, is the most important thing.
😁just don't let them do rgb bikes
On the topic of 'greetings', in France, some random people (mostly pedestrians) greeted me, a touring cyclist, with 'courage!', and I almost teared up every time because I thought that's just so sweet and indeed encouraging.
It’s great to see you continue to want to deliver projects and products that speak to the audience.
Would you ever consider doing a review/sponsorship with Planet X and the entry level varient of EC-130?
Everyone likes to get on about how rim brake performance are “still fine” or “still great”… sure. But, the primary reason to moving to disc brakes, and a significant reason why pro teams & manufacturers are switching to them is because they allow for wider tires & more tire clearance, and also allow for full carbon rims without compromising the wheels or compromising with heavier aluminum braking surfaces bonded onto carbon rims. The added benefit of a little bit better stopping power in the dry & significantly better stopping power in the wet, are really just bonuses, IMO.
Plus... disc brakes stop you. Wet, dry, whatever.
You know, their job...
What benefit are wider tyres to pro teams? My Supersix Evo (rimbrake) from 2019 can run 28mm although I run 25mm. Why run any wider for racing?
And no pro teams I know of were compromising with “heavy” alu/carbon wheels.
Pro disc bikes are only now approaching the UCI 6.8kg lower limit; something rim brake bikes could do with ease well over a decade ago
@@lasrachtech.1341 28s are wide tires. My 10 yr old rim brake R3, which I I recently sold could hold max 25 & that was barely scraping the frame.
To spec, 23s were the widest that was “supposed” to be run on them.
Exactly, so clearance for wider tyres on road bikes was not a driver for pro teams or manufacturers to move towards disc brakes
@@nicholascarolan2193 I don’t understand what you’re saying. Most race bikes from 10+ years ago could not handle any tires wider than 23mm unless being run off-spec & breaking warranty.
Teams wanted to run wider tires than 23mm for aero advantage & reduced rolling resistance & they wanted full carbon rims - which carbon braking surfaces are a liability especially in the high mountains. Why is this so hard to understand?
You guys have absolutely nailed it, by that I mean the connect between you and us, aside from your individual lovable characters,Honesty (massive in today's auto sceptical SM world), Integrity, Humour and just bloody good product and tech advice you're way beyond other channels and long may it continue.
Massive thumbs up to all at CM. Keep doing what your doing.
Edit- We need a CM lock stock and barrel bike pack road trip, the lot of you.
Yes as an American-the south is very nice. However, it’s 90 to 100 degrees everyday for 7 months with a 90% humidity. So, we only ride bikes at night or early in the AM during summer…I don’t see anyone unless fall months.
For sponsors I really like what Gamers Nexus are doing. Their videos if sponsored, are sponsored by a specific product, that they deem good. Any brand will have good and maybe not so good products. Focusing on the ones you yourself can stand behind, is like a win win for all. Video sponsored, manufacturer paid and happy viewer, since they will get a good product. Loved your stuff especially on the cheaper end of things. Have a good one
Absolutely love how genuine you guys are with reviews and comments. Personally, I would love to see a show on winter clothing, as a head up bum down gravel rider that likes to keep warm while out riding.
FYI regarding the crank recall - those costs to Shimano cover bike shop inspection fees, marketing, manufacturing and shipping - a few quick calculations show that failure rates appear to be well below 1%….
The Garmin boat motors are integrated with their GPS capabilities, allowing the motor to slowly, but autonomously navigate the boat along a pre-approved route!
Nick sounds like the perfect person to ride with on a long ride. Talking helps the time go by.
On a Lejog ride on 2019, I was greeting everyone we passed, particularly on the canals. And I almost always got a response, EXCEPT in Manchester.
I don't have the space or money to have multiple bikes at the moment, so a gravel bike is perfect for me. I throw on 28mm conti GPs and use it as a pretty nice endurance bike, throw on the 40mm gravel tires it came with to explore dirt and gravel and for the winter, I have 50mm spiked winter tires. I'm not gonna do any mountain biking or road racing, so the one bike is all I need
Swapped my road bike for Gravel, Roads are so knackered around where I live and its way more comfortable, still super quick and use it everywhere. Went for the Cube Nuroad Pro and its unbelievably good
Best cycling pod out there! Appreciate all the entertaining and relevant content. Most importantly, you're always committed to growing the cycling community. Speaking to the friendliness of the riding community. I'm from Juneau, Alaska but live in work in the French region of Switzerland. I ride road and gravel. Always wave at fellow cyclists but frequently get a surprised look in response from other riders with a wave or no wave at all. I see motorcycles always honk and wave at each other. Seems like the cycling community should be just as much, if not more friendly than motorists 🤔Love to hear you guys show so much love on the bicycle. Makes me wanna ride in Newcastle ❤ Again, big thanks for all your work and being friendly cyclists. Take care
The non-racing, pretend racer roadie scene is, and always has been, rather snooty unfortunately. For some reason it brings out the vain wannabe in people.
Great channel guys, I think a move in content was the inevitable to keep it interesting. As for sponsors it is needed and appreciate you explaining things and good luck going forward, I believe it was always clear on the channel who was sponsoring it. I’ve stopped following a certain Lancashire lass due to no unique content and what I seen as hidden product placement.
“Enjoy the ride”
Thank you for a down to earth cycling show cantering for all types of riders
Seriously impressed with all you guys have done! Keep up the great work and wishing you all the best for the future.
Glad you _finally_ got to the revelation that the carbon wheels are _the_ limiting factor (aka culprit) for rim brake bikes. My rim brakes stop great on alloy wheels.
Think everyone's known this for years bruv
It all depends on the quality of the carbon rims. I run rim brakes on Campagnolo Bora rims.. they have a special milled surface and stop on a dime. (You have to use the sacrificial red campag brake shoes though)
@@notkaty my point was that Francis, et al. have never made that distinction for their followers, previously stating "just get disc brakes" - _implying_ rim brakes don't cut it, without qualification
I bet Jimmy is right about an all-road style bike. My wife and I have quite old bikes and weve both said our next bike will be a 'gravel' bike that can also go on road. We'll each have two sets of wheels, which are a lot smaller than a whole bike and easier to store, one slick one gravel specific. We live in Arizona where we do have a lot of amazing Public Lands so we can explore a ton with a gravel bike.
Also on Emilys point of friendly Americans, it changes all over the place. When I grew up in Minnesota, very very north, we had a reputation as being 'Minnesota Nice'. When I moved to AZ, the people I ran into were much more reserved and less friendly. That didnt stop me from talking to strangers though haha
I’ve been watching Francis’ channel since the beginning and find the new format a little frustrating, but I understand the reason and still enjoy the content.
I sometimes am a little grumpy in the comments as I assume it’s all helpful feedback and hope it’s never taken personally.
You’re all good eggs and engaging characters 👍.
I couldn’t give a rats arse how you guys raise income - to me, your videos are free and I welcome any sponsorship you want to accept.
I don’t get “influenced” by TH-cam channels about what to buy…I like to research my purchases pretty thoroughly.
I think it would be great to have good mid reach endurance road calipers on 35mm tires as a standard lower cost bike. Wider tires are better, but rim breaks can be good, easier, and cheaper. The problem I have with rim breaks is that we can only get narrower tires on them.
State of UK roads, especially in Winter, my Canyon Grizl gravel bike has been bike of choice over and over again - if the roads don't improve I can see 'grvl' bikes being the mainstay for most outings as they're fast enough when your avoiding pots holes that can damage cars and road debris everywhere!
Its the reason I am just building one up.
Aw mate this is so accurate for me too. I want to build/buy one too, (planning on a bike fit first though) there’s loads of trails and canal pathways near to me which would mean I can try new spots I can’t take my road bike despite trying. The roads are fucking shocking after this winter too. Dying to have sometime I can ride on gnarlier terrain!
I’m excited to see bikepacking videos again. They’re my favorite type of cycle vacations.
I love the new set up of the channel not that I didn't like when Francis was solo but this set up is great and so many diverse people, and the channel can do different areas of cycling like James and Nick 😁 my hope is you all get bigger but keeping your humility in all you do. Keep up the good job.
pesto on knock off chargers is one thing, but tin whiskers can also cause components including switches to short out
Let me start by saying that I am a big Francis Cade fan ... I've watched his videos pretty much since the start of his channel and I definitely prefer the old, "daily" vlogs with its cast of colorful characters, adventures and off the beaten path races. On the other hand, it's clear that from a total subscriber number perspective this model has proven to be incredibly successful. I don't watch the majority of these videos but I wish you luck in your new business venture. Very glad to hear that Francis is going on a road trip. Hopefully, it will include some of his old comrades. Suerte
"Harshness" of aluminum frames was a thing when people were riding 21mm tires at 120psi. Tubeless 28s at 70 psi have solved that problem. The frames themselves are also far better engineered and interesting to look at these days due to the pervasive use of hydroforming. The Allez Sprint, Emonda ALR and CAAD 13 are all fantastic bikes. I challenge anyone to ride those bikes and justify the huge cost increase for the comparable carbon frame.
Everything is moving to gravel because British road are very poor, traffic is heavy and driving is terrible. It’s just safer and more interesting off the road
I’d love for you (& Nick) to do bracket test videos of bikes. Maybe a top 5 discussion segment on the pod. I.e. These are our top 5 gravel bikes £1000-£1999.
'Rim brakes keep bikes cheep'...and light, and simple to maintain, and look good, and work really well. But yeah don't mix with carbon rims 100% agree.
Really like these talks and your channel. Time well spent. Cheers from Portugal!
Another superb weekly video, I really hope this bikepacking trip has daily updates so we can follow your progress 🤞🤞🤞🤞
Thanks for the show. PS - one can still get glass glasses, they just charge a lot more.
Really looking forward to the bikepacking videos. I love this channel. Great info, great guests and topic :)
I do love how many times you guys admit to doing documentation in places where you aren't allowed to or shouldn't. Fun banter though!
I have a lower end aluminium frame but it rides very well. There's nothing wrong with it.
Fork is full carbon, so is the seatpost.
Wheels are a bit heavy but I'm going to swap with some carbon 50mm wheels which should save 400 to 600 grams.
(new tires will also save some weight)
Maybe switch to carbon bars in the future and potentially put on a lighter (electronic) groupset.
I can't see myself lusting after a carbon bike (much more expensive) because I wouldn't get much value out of it.
Aluminum bike with carbon fork is a great setup
You can also get a cheaper carbon frame. U don't need to choose from the known brands... most also get their frames from China and brand them. Will get an aluminium frame then build it with 105 group set.
@@krissk77 that's completely true! I've looked a lot at chinese manufacturers and there are plenty that look like good quality. The main issue with Chinese frames is that they are often really really aggressive and since I'm no Vingegaard I can't ride those bikes. I ride endurance bikes and I don't see those often from Chinese brands...
Regarding the fake charger, Amazon has an issue that they put all product items in a common bin. So, if you order a charger from the "Samsung Amazon store" it gets pulled out from the same bin as the retailer selling the 'fake charger'. I was wondering this after getting several obvious fake products from Philips and Oral-B, that I ordered from their "Amazon store". After doing some research I found a forum of retailers who use Amazon, and were having issues with their products being mixed with Chinese copies. At this point, if I want to be sure it comes from the retailer, I buy it in a store or directly from the manufacture.
I just ordered a cheap Bianchi jersey to match my new bike. I'm pumped!
I’m with Francis base layers for cycling you don’t need, but when I’m hiking I never walk without one, and in the summer I wear a really lightweight rab long sleeve base layer instead of t shirts because I burn way to easy 😂
35:11 doggo smiling for the video
The doggie gets way to little attention. Poor thing.
Came here just for the doggo!
With the videoing a trip thing, i find the iphone live photos are a perfect middle ground! You get about 3s of video and sometimes some audio too, so they’re a great memory for later
You keep smashing it! Well done team 👏🏾
Totally agree on FTP. Road racing is also about how well you can ride wheels/hide and read a race.
Love your content--even if most of it doesn't really affect me as a casual rider :)
it's suggested here that most of Shimano's stuff that they sell (as in, the majority of their profits) is fishing gear; just to be clear (according to what I could find), bike gear IS most of what the sell, about 80% of their sales are for the biking industry, with about 18-19% being fishing gear (the rest, 'other stuff').
Also, regardless if 'turtle/tortoise' is used as a blanket term for either, there IS a technical difference between the two--NOT the same species.
1. Cheap carbon was changing through the years and now evolved to simple thing - the frame will be with thick walls, so the frame weight will be somewhere around 1,5 kilos (with fork) or more. But it gives less chance for frame to break. The same relates to other bike details. I have 2 carbon handlebars from Aliexpress and they are perfectly fine.
2. Couldn't agree more about base layer. It adds just one more warming layer, not cooling or anything. Your cycling jersey has to be properly (well crafted/engineered) ventilated itself. That's what works for cooling and drying.
For Ruth...
I would use a GoPro on time-lapse each day, then simply swap to a new SD card daily, or back it up to the cloud or a portable drive.
Moments only happen once, a time-lapse would capture those things you want to look back on. And if you stumble across something epic, a couple of button presses and its filming in real time 4k
Turn on in the morning, and forget about it.
As long as you remember to actually turn it on of course lol
In many places, cars aren't even more abundant - they're just more conspicuous.
A few years back, the city I used to live in was trying to elaborate a comprehensive mobility plan, including bike paths. They hired a firm that did a few studies, and the findings were eye opening. First, car ownership was about ~35% of the population; second, in many streets the number of people riding a bike in a given day would outnumber cars 2 or even 3 to 1. Bikes are just _a lot_ more efficient at moving people around, and people do use them, but most of the time we don't notice.
Unfortunately the story has a sad ending, and despite the study showing how many people would benefit from better cycling infrastructure, nothing really changed.
30:49 Also consider not only good rim brakes, just use good v brakes or mini v brakes, if they can be fitted. Because they brake even better, when adjusted right, and can make up to some insane tire clearance up to 45mm or 55 at some points. My "trekking" bike has entry level shimano v brakes on it and it slows down pretty well, and although it ways around 15 to 17kgs, I can stop it very fast when going 23 Kp/H or faster.
I love your podcasts. Find them very entertaining, I'm not into ultra light stuff, just prefer a bike I feel comfortable on, I find gravel a bit of a marketing thing, back in the 80s used to do cycle touring on a Dawes super galaxy on routes people would now consider gravel, I do feel sad the dedicated touring bikes are almost extinct, I prefer a triple chainset for touring.
You just saved me a lot of money. Instead of buying a new bike I'll stick with my 1992 (3 x7 XTR) rigid "MtB" with an aluminium frame and a nice road geometry. Rides really well and fast with wide road tires, can handle massive width tires. 3 downsides: no handlebar with drops, no fancy name like "Gravelbike", weighs a ton.
Here in the States, Gravel is getting huge. The local bike shops and cycling clubs are all in on it from a grassroots level.
I had a Principia RS6 Alu frame back in the day. Was fantastic at the time.
I very much appreciate the transparency about the finances. I personally would support your Patreon if that still helps you in the newer Cade Media format. I am very excited for new bikepacking content, as I re-watch Project Vietnam and Project USA. Also, if it became logistically possible, I would pay a premium to be able to ride one day of a route with Jimmi, Francis, and other Cade Media cast of characters.
Both things I want to develop in the future.
Here in not so sunny North Herts a gravel bike doesnt cut it off road between September and May, simply too muddy. For general riding on quiet rural roads my tank like 2021 Genesis Croix De Fer, shod with 45mm gravel tyres copes admirably with potholes. Horses for courses. If using my roadbike i often travel on busier roads but then i have to mix it up with 44 tonne Eddie Stobart and chums.
Loved the podcast as always, only recently found your channel after get back into cycling this year. Have been binging the old episodes now too. Keep up the great work!
2.5k likes from 78k views is the worst... what is wrong with people, Six stars as always. So much quality content and discussion.
Really enjoying this. I’m more of an mtb rider but with a 20 month old and having limited time I spend about 70-80% of my time on drop bar bikes either gravel bike to work or road bike at the weekend.
I have a tarmac SL7 which I have had from nearly new so about 12 years. Thinking of getting an Aethos Expert with ultegra and carbon rims. If I get that, ride it twice a week for the next 15 years then it seems to work out at about £5 a ride and the bike should still be worth something. I’m 36 now so getting a ‘race bike’ now as I feel I would get frustrated by not being able to ride as fast as I could during lockdown.
Excited for new bikepacking videos!
Please note that aluminum has different grades and weld qualities vary as well.
Alloy 1100 to Alloy 5052 all affect quality of a good bike.
I have been finding bright red cycling shorts for years to wear with my neon green jersey. Would be so cool, matching with my orange/black helmet
Great video/podcast, as per usual. I have a question on the Shimano crank recall. How can Shimano give a figure on what the recall has cost them? I took two sets of cranks to a large local Shimano Dealer three months ago. I only found ou sevsn days ago, that they hadn't even stripped them down and checked them yet, and had forgotten that they have even got them on the premises. So, at this point in time, it's not known whether they will need to be replaced or not. Surely, Shimano's statement should be 'it has cost us £xxxxx to date'. I'm sure that there must be other people who haven't had their cranks checked or possibly replaced yet.
8:31 That is totally right, when it comes to Decathlon. Another brand that gives you also "more" for your money is "Cube". I mean their entry level bikes are not better than the decathlon ones but many models are coming with disc brakes in the entry level section.
Personally I think that 899 is too much for entry level biking. I would like to get one with hydraulic brakes and know that I have to spend 1,5K for that. But when 899 is entry level, I then don't have a problem to go with 1,5K for the better one instead.
Anyway, I like those product review videos about bikes but also equipment a lot, it does not matter if it is Aliexpress stuff, or just the next dura ace or so. You seem honest and I like that about the content here in general.
Agreed. On the subject of big box stores and "Loads of stuff in the bike industry we should be talking about", there are more Go Outdoors stores in the UK than there are Decathlon. They have an in-house brand (Calibre) like Decathlon, Evans and Halfords; and there are other brands they represent (Polygon and Jamis). A 4-way deathmatch of UK big box store bikes has to happen at some point :)
@@NunoLima1337 Cade Media made a video about a halfords bike, when I remember correctly. It was a red one, whose looks I personally dispised.
But yes there are cheap brands of some stores. But you might need to dive deep into that because they might not really state the components on their site or the size.
But Triban is a good example, I am just a bit annoyed that they got rid of the rim brake version because I always wanted to test it out.
Enjoyed that, thanks guys. New to the channel. 👍🏻
51:00 I got myself a GoPro max 360 Kamera, but could have been any 360 cam. Because I can mount it on the bike or just hold it in a (selfie) stick and afterwards reframe as I want. No need to take out the phone and risk it to drop while riding 😮
I picked up my aluminium Giant Contend AR 1 this week. It weighs 9.5kg and (discounted) cost £1,450. It has hydraulic disks, Shimano 105 2x11, etc. I’ve never ridden a carbon frame but it rides really nicely and cost around half of a similar carbon bike like the Defy. I’m very happy with my purchase for now. Carbon next time maybe…
Other people waving back - if I'm on my road bike in the summer the majority do, in the winter on my hybrid it's far less, even though I'm wearing the same gear. And base layers - they are a great for quite a few months of the year as I live in Scotland!
Got very excited at the talk of winning cool stuff from the channel 🎉🤙
If road cycling is dead, then it was dead for a long time already.
Moving away from razor thin tubular, for example, was surely a bigger change then anything that happened recently.
Bikes are just evolving, same as always.
Beware of falling into the "Things aren't the same as they were back in my day!" mindset.
Great pod as usual, I enjoyed listening to it :)
Lifestyle advertising will never end. There's been plenty of studies that show even when people know its happening, it still produces the desired outcome of the marketeer.
The roads here in caldwell tx are gravel rock and tar. Cars flying past throw the gravel all over. If you try to focus on going you have to worry about getting sucked into the deep gravel on the side of the road. Side roads are even worse. Thank God I ride a mtb/gravel style bike. 100mm up front and wide tires. Plus run a 1x10. There aren't really "hills" in texas. Just man made humps made with a crap ton of sand to make the humps. I've almost crashed because of the gravel on the side of the roads.
On the "no one cares about your bike" topic: I ride an All-City which has a nice looking (but not particularly extreme) two-tone paint job, and I have gotten compliments on the trails and during races here and there. It's not custom or anything, they just make them nice looking from the factory and folks appreciate it I guess.
Hi guys, I love what you guys are trying to create, I watch pretty much everything you put out and I wish you and everyone involved the very best for the future, for sure I will be with you. One negative point I have though is, you spend a lot of time talking about yourselves!!! No need! Not interested, I'm pretty sure not many folk are. You're supposed to be talking about bike stuff! 20mins in and you're still talking about yourselves. Get to the good stuff!!! 😉 Keep pedalling 👍
In the video you mention that the old Planet X carbon frames were too flexible @24:40. I have recently been looking at the latest Planet X bikes (EC130 and Pro Carbon) as a potential upgrade from a 10yr old Boardman Aluminium road bike. Does this option still hold true with the Planet X carbon road bikes that are being manufactured now? Thnx in advance for any insight.
From a rim brake fan/ user... an aluminium rim is a big disc.
Road cycling is not dead. But, I bought a gravel bike in December and I have had so much fun on it, it will be a tough call to switch back to the road bike in spring.
The roads in Cardiff are shit, potholes everywhere, not a problem on the gravel bike. Doing a 250 mile bike packing trip over Easter, gravel bike. The ability to head down a gravel fire road when out on a ride, go do the shopping with some panniers on, winter riding, the list goes on.
I have few century rides coming up which I will definitely do on the road bike (and likely feel even more zippy comparatively) other than that hard to see me choosing road bike for weekend rides
The common snapping turtle in the US is east of the Rocky mountains. Shouldn't have any in Death Valley! But they're nasty bad-tempered things and they get big, 20 pounds or more commonly, up to about 75 pouds and they live to be over 100. On the southern portion of their range is the Alligator snapping turtle and that gets to be commonly around 50 pounds and up to well over 200 pounds and one of the very few things that the common snapping turtle has to fear in the wild.
Now that you don’t have a bike sponsor, bring that Elves frame back and put a real groupset on it for a review
Norcal cyclist here, I've noticed that Old School riders greet and wave to other roadies, new school (post Lance boom) do not, it's a very marked difference, these are the same guys that block traffic lanes unnecessarily and aggravate traffic. I took an unofficial poll at a couple of club rides and most agreed or had similar experiences. Generalization of course, not every new rider does this...
@24:28 - the difference between say a Carrera TdF LE or a Dawes Giro 300 and say, a Mondiale or a Columbus Starship or EM2 frame, is complete night and day. You can ride into battle with the latter, you would winter train on the former. the Carrera, Dawes etc feel dead, heavy, sluggish. Alu is like steel in that theres all sorts of grades and tubes, to suit all needs and to achieve the desired ride characteristics. thanks. m
I got on board when you bikepacked Australia so I’m exited for more touring
A very interesting hour of discussion.
A few of the unpopular opinions I would mention:
* Base layers. Absolutely necessary when it gets cold. So below minus 5c. Minus 15c and below, you want that sweat away from your skin ASAP.
* Strength training. For cyclists, I'd say it's very important. It's a non-impact sport, and to avoid bone density losses, resistance training is key. I agree with your point on mobility too. Increased muscle mass gives you a bit more protection if you crash too, but fundamentally is vital for long term health into old age. Frailty is lethal.
* Road cycling is dead. I find that it's a bit odd that gravel bikes are so popular in the UK when there is so little actual gravel. I love gravel, and ride endless gravel here in Sweden, but sometimes it's just really nice to go very fast, so out comes the road bike.
Please consider a visit to Southern Sweden if you want some truly world class gravel. I believe you guys must know Josh Reid. He and I have ridden here, so will be able to give you a fuller picture of the potential here.
It’s just because our road surfaces are so poor- we need off-road bikes for ‘road biking’
@@andrewcharlesworth2512 yeah, fair point. I'm quite comfortable on the road here on 25mm tyres at 115psi with 102kg bw. That just doesn't work back in the UK
The reasonably priced high-end aluminum frames can have better degrees of flex due to tube geometry/forming/butting and better welding tech that minimize concerns of old alu frames such as fatigue life and weld-heated stress fractures.
TL;DR alu frames used to be harsh because the way to make them was rubbish compared to current times. now, they're quite comfy.
I don’t know if I’m representative of the rest of the audience, but I don’t mind advertising when it’s disclosed, yet it’s really grating when it’s not. I enjoy GCN’s content, because they readily disclose the sponsorships, and I understand their motivations. However smaller creators who are very obviously pitching products to an audience without disclosing the fact they’re being paid for said content, pisses me off. I AM more likely to consider products that are being used by content creators I like, however I’m still going to investigate the product, and will make my own decision based on what I learn. So, the advertising is beneficial as it puts the product forward to my consideration, but it’s by no means a guarantee of sales.
US friendliness is all over that place, but generally the center is friendly and the coasts aren’t as much. East coast is aggressive externally, but sweethearts underneath and the west coast is passive aggressive so nice-ish to your face, but more concerned about themselves.
Seattle where I now live don’t wave ever unless you ride a long way out to the countryside. But Indiana where I’m from is super friendly.
Sorry but I've seen 5 seasons of Fargo and I know about "Minnesota Nice" 🤣
@@nbartlett6538 Does that mean like fake nice? I would assume in a cycling context, you would only see the nice part.
A lovely hour! Thank you
For my fellow Americans, inverted commas == air quotes (sometimes they say the strangest things)