Is a LARGE pen tablet right for you? (Wacom Intuos Pro Large PTH-860)

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ธ.ค. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 66

  • @wow-dw7gh
    @wow-dw7gh ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Bro, This was EXACTLY what I needed, thanks so much for this! Thanks to you I realize I need to get a larger monitor 32"+ for my Large Wacom Intuos which I have loved using for about a decade - I recently tried a Wacom Cintiq 22 and could NOT get on with the drawing experience at all so I have sold it and gone back to my trusty Intuos boy - now I will reuse that money to buy the monitor. 👍I also have the Razer Tartarus Keypad to solve the problem with a keyboard and Large Tablet fitting ergonomically on the desk - I absolutely love it. It's a joy to map.

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad to see you found the video helpful! Thank you for the nice comment!!!

    • @fluttzkrieg4392
      @fluttzkrieg4392 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Man this is the exact situation I find myself at. I've had an XP-Pen Artist Pro 16 for the past year but I could never get used to using it. My arm and neck hurt so much.
      I have the Tartarus as well and I'm thinking of getting a Deco Pro Gen 2 XLW because I use an ultrawide. That thing is massive but it would give me more arm movement.

  • @ZephrusPrime
    @ZephrusPrime 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I use my Large Intuos on a tablet stand. Having it on a slight incline completely changes the way the Intuos feels. You are able to move your arm from the shoulder and avoid your wrists locking up like when drawing from a flat position. I have a keyboard on top but my main navigation is on my Logitech G13 to the left. This with a set of color accurate BenQ's are a set up to work on all day.

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What a great idea! I'm going to try this with a stand I have and see how it works for my working style. Thanks for mentioning it.

  • @yesyes9698
    @yesyes9698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I’m scared of larger tablets, makes me feel not so confident with my strokes. And the small one is plain uncomfortable. The medium is just the perfect spot for me for everything. Haha

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Medium-size I think is such a good balance for many people.

  • @Jerry_quesoso
    @Jerry_quesoso 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I come from the XP-Pen Innovator 16 which has 15.6inch screen size, lately I've been looking for to replace this tablet and decided to give it another try to pen tablets due to the low cost and being able to use a super good monitor without having to spend thousands.
    Majority do recommend the medium sized tablets and so I took my Samsung Tab (12.4inch), dimmed the screen and turn it into a pen tablet thanks to SuperDisplay by connecting it to the 24inch monitor I have.
    The experience? I feel the working area so crammed, only workaround I was able to solve this was by optimizing the UI the best I could and thus giving a little more of gestural space.
    That being said, its important to consider how much space does your UI use as it'll reduce even more the active area. I fondly remember my XP-Pen Artist 12, the already small active area I was left with was just as tiny as an iPad mini maybe even worse than that!

  • @ranjansvivek
    @ranjansvivek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best video on TH-cam about Wacom Intuos Pro, Thank a lot for this. 🤩😍👏👏👏

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for such a nice comment!

  • @lengeschder
    @lengeschder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Been torn about upgrading my aging Wacom Cintiq 13HD or switching back to a standard drawing tablet to help with ergonomics; your review has done a great job of breaking down some of the pros and cons. Still not sure what I'll pick, but it's incredibly helpful to see the other options out there, particularly as someone who's rarely considered large tablets. Appreciate your comprehensive review, will definitely check out the rest of your vids.

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the comment! There are so many drawing tablet options these days, I like helping people explore what might suit them best.

  • @mysteryman3666
    @mysteryman3666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would you say a Wacom Intuos Medium would be perfect for a 27" screen and a Wacom Intuos Pro Large would be just right for a 31" screen?

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes those combinations should work well. See this video: th-cam.com/video/HWyCl6JwSAw/w-d-xo.html

  • @josepabloespinoza
    @josepabloespinoza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Something not mentioned on the video (or totally missed it sorry if this is the case) is that you can resize the active area to accomodate your needs, granted I'm a linux user so I have global shortcuts to reseize the active area dont know if this is possible on windows and mac. With this possibility I don't see a point for S or M other than real estate on your desktop. Amazing videos they are really helpful.

  • @moritzruffonei3960
    @moritzruffonei3960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my solution for the keyboard problem was the T9 delux ambidexterous keyboard. is one handed and as the name implies, you can use it as a left handed too, since the space bar happens to be twice on each corner of the device. Is a sturdy membrane keyboard with a ton of keys, you either setup shortcuts the old way (on clip studio), or rearrange them using a macro software like autohotkey (it has volume/mute, and esc scrollbar, print screen keys on both sides, so more keys to use!) because is just like a old keyboard -no software- just plug and play.
    i wouldnt change it for a tartarus or any of the fancy expensive keyboards for right handed ppl. This guys has so much more available keys 45 in total + space bar, and is just 20-30 bucks.

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! I had not heard of this device before. I am always interested in specialized input devices that can make me more productive. I will check this out!

  • @SketchPLAY1
    @SketchPLAY1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Razer Tarturus Vz for the win , when it comes to shortcut key usage in my opinion . Great vid!

  • @ThecyberartistG.Greene
    @ThecyberartistG.Greene ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Thanks for showing this. My first Intuos was the 12x 18 Intuos 2 I used for years. It first version the was USB powered. Then later I retired it and let a friend use it.
    I moved to the Extra large Intuos 4. I use on a tilt and on a drafting table. When not in use its store in an art portfolio case. This last weekend I won a eBay offer on an Intuos 5 Large PTH 860. The reason is I got my extra large for studio work and going to coffee shop to draw and show off as people see the table and love to watch me draw with.
    Sadly with shop I like to go closed and now after pandemic lock down many gone good.
    I tend not to pull the extra large out as often as my work area is smaller right now and my draft table stored So I got Intuos 5 Large PTH-860 for a good deal and can us it in the small area. I am trained in drawing art more in Pen and ink and traditional arts studies but saw early on late 70s computers were the next tool for art work. I took to them fast and used most digital drawing programs with mouse or trackball and one off name tablet for a short time. I like to draw large.
    In the studio I didn't use small 8x11 paper or canvas I did big long strokes and large sheet and canvases. I use Paint long before Corel bought it up when it was fractal paint. I draw the same as do on paper, but I don't watch my hand I watch the screen.
    I did this without thinking of it. And many who watch me ask how do I disconnect that need to watch your hand I said I follow the brush. Oh, I do details in my work. I will work large, but I like to zoom in and work at the pixel level. It great when doing layer works. I like to be portable. I worked from a high-end graphic gaming laptop til it died a few years back. It fixable but till then I am on a desk top but need to get back to being able to get places to draw out in public.
    I love to show off my drawing while also inspiring young people and showing them the Wacom tablets. It's fun to show young people there is no limitation to their imagination. I do still say for to learn traditional arts studies as well. Computer art is cool but knowing traditional arts help and give better perspectives to doing work. Wacom had made great tablets and I love mine. Hoping to get the new one soon and get back to drawing more. Looking to get a laptop going as well to get back out in public as well.

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment! It brought back some memories about Fractal Design Painter. I remember it came in that paint can with the paint smell! Some of the younger tablet users I mentioned that to were stunned how "extra" that was. I think they younger artists are in such an amazing time when amazing tools are being built for their creativity. I hope they learn the traditional skills also. I think it's helped to have that grounding and wish I had spent more time purposely learning those things.

  • @charliemartian8720
    @charliemartian8720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like your perspectives. I also use CSP, I would appreciate seeing some screenshots of your desk workspace layout and how you set up CSP. Thanks for all you are providing! Much appreciated.

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great idea! I will do something maybe early next year to show my setups!

  • @yavnrh
    @yavnrh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is an excellent video! To be honest, I was a bit disappointed that Intuos is such an old model by now. I own Huion Giano and it's very good, seems like a no brainer compared to Wacom. I know Wacom has more pen options and I was interested in that, but I will wait until they release a refreshed model to consider it.

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I am also hoping Wacom will release some new pen tablet models soon - and with some real differentiating features that justify the price.

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  ปีที่แล้ว

      I got a Huion Giano shortly after this video and have also been completely satisfied with it.

    • @msganga1974
      @msganga1974 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree with you... I have been using a wacom intuos pro large paper edition for 5 years... Since then nothing happened... I purchased huion studio 16...it is ok but i used to work to a big screen 😅... I would be so happy if Wacom made a super nice new intuos pro model... Xcenlab is a good reference... 🤓

    • @cristiangamesgames
      @cristiangamesgames ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey there, sorry to bother you, but would it be too much to ask if you described your drawing experience with the Huion Giano? I have a display tablet (huion) but the experience while using it is subpar at best, almost feels like glass. I'd like to know if the Giano is more like pen and paper or at least how cloes does it get to that experience.

    • @yavnrh
      @yavnrh ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to have a Kamvas 16 Pro 4K, but I wasn't satisfied with it at all. The glass is slippery, the display too blurry (60Hz), and the ergonomics are bad (posture, keyboard use). It's also very expensive. Giano is very big, has a matte surface, and feels great with a felt nib pen. It's still not quite like drawing on paper, but much, much better than Kamvas. Huion now has PW550S slim pen, but I still prefer the regular fat pen. I can use the tablet flat on the desk and draw on a big 4K screen at 144Hz. It's hard to beat this experience! However, it took me about 2 months of daily use to get used to the tablet and during that time I had many doubts. But now, it's like a second nature. If Giano is too big for you (it feels "slow" because you have to move your hand more), then Inspiroy 2 M is a great replacement for it. It has a similar feel and is much improved from the previous model H950P.

  • @zirta
    @zirta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first Intuos I ever used was the 9x12 one and I felt like I was swimming with all the arm movement I had to do. So I got me the 6x8 one and I happily used it for fifteen years. Now, since the Intuos 3 is becoming obsolete, I chose the PTH 660 to replace it, seeing that the active size is similar, but nope. I don’t know if it’s the design or that I am doing more arm movement when I draw now, but it’s not a fit for me. Now I am getting the PTH 860 and I really appreciate your review about what to expect. Thank you!

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a very similar experience. After using one of the larger size tablets for a while switching back to a medium size 6 x 8 was just so weird for me. Thanks for your nice words about the video!

    • @a.d.9889
      @a.d.9889 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want to pass the intuos 3's down to family or friends (as long as Krita and or Darktable and Gimp is good enough for them) I would recommend they try Linux with KDE.
      I use a modified version of Ubuntu Studio but just the standard download has the drivers for the tablets installed. The buttons are out of arrangement but can be quickly figured out, all works as should otherwise.

  • @cristiangamesgames
    @cristiangamesgames ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello there, I see through the comments that you also bought a Huion Giano. What I'd like to know is what is the drawing experience compared to a display tablet and traditional? I have a Huion 16 inch display tablet (2021 version) and I just can't seem to draw on the thing because it feels like pure glass. Is the Huion Giano much better and comparable to pen and paper? Is there friction? Thank you for the video and your in-depth reviews and explanations!

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  ปีที่แล้ว

      My notes on the Giano should answer your question: docs.thesevenpens.com/drawtab/7p-notes/7p-notes-huion/7p-notes-huion-giano-g930l
      Let me know if you have any other questions!

  • @PSYCH0S0CIAL5
    @PSYCH0S0CIAL5 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought wh1409v2 around 2 years ago and to this day I am still forcing myself to be using it, I do mainly 3d sculpting and sometimes digital painting, but after all of this time it is still uncomfortable, it'just constantly way too much hand movement to get where I want to, I actually regret buying it, idk if I should sell it and buy something like h1060p or just reduce the active area, smaller tablet could let me place my keyboard closer but its not that bad at the moment, not the main issue atleast

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure you are getting my replies in reddit chat. So I thought I'd double check by messaging you here. Your math works out. But there is also a simpler way to get what you want. In the driver. You can just set the mapping to "screen ration" and the interactively resize the active area (blue rectangle) on the tablet.

  • @TestarossaF110
    @TestarossaF110 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've seen that there is an PTH-860-S and an PTH-860-N, Wacom says its south vs north and location depended (one has a booklet with more languages), reddit says the same. however I found some shops say one is wireless (bluetooth) and the other is wired, afaik they're both wired and wireless. also, Amazon says one has an older ram in it, the price difference is 70 bucks for a "new" second hand one... however I'm still scared to make the purchase as 240 bucks is still quite a price for a possible mistake. Does anyone else have more info on the -S/-N differences?

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All I've ever heard is that those regional markers like "S" or "N" make - it's still the same hardware. I've never heard of a wired onl version on the PTH-x60 series at all.

  • @samuelpark6782
    @samuelpark6782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing channel! Watched this video and your other vid on choosing the right tablet size.Both are really helpful! Im thnking of selling my cintiq pro 24 and switiching to either intuos pro or large for a healthier posture. Im a storyboard artist so do more sketches then painting. Also my monitor is an ultrawide 32inch monitor. U think that will affect the size of tablet needed?

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the nice comments! As for pairing monitor size to pen tablet size, I think there is a connection. I’m going to publish a video this weekend showing the results of some personal testing I did on that topic and that may be useful for you.

  • @SilentTrip
    @SilentTrip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wacom intuos pro large is soooooo expensive for my budget
    Any alternative would you recommend? Coming from Wacom intuos 4 large

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the Wacom intuos 4 large is an excellent tablet but if you want a newer one for less money there are two options: (1) but a used intuos pro Large - I bought one on eBay. See my video on buying used tablets for more information (2) Huion Giano G930L

  • @a.d.9889
    @a.d.9889 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lower pullout for the keyboard and the tablet on the upper section of the desk seems ergonomically correct, but I'm no author nor an artist.

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did try that but it just did not end up convenient enough for me when i was typing. It may work for others though.

  • @devm.9189
    @devm.9189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey, which cheap but good pen tablet would u recommend fornnote taking for a student on budget??

    • @solomonramsa
      @solomonramsa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ugee s1060 or s640

  • @princeuy8021
    @princeuy8021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if i have the budget, is it better to get the intuous pro L rather than the G930L ? i cant find any head to head reviews online of the two models... any help would be appreciated. thanks

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If budget is not an issue, then yes the Intuos Pro Large is the one to get. Also, personally I like the texture of the Wacom over that of the Huion. The Huion just sounds/feels just slightly scratchier and I prefer smoother. Also I do find the Intuos pen has better slightly ergonomics slightly better "drawing feel" - but that is of course subjective.

  • @vividvulpe9842
    @vividvulpe9842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love my 860. Bigger is always better in regards to a workable area.

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Then you may enjoy the next video I am working on. It’s about Extra-Large tablets :-)

    • @vividvulpe9842
      @vividvulpe9842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thesevenpens sounds pretty cool!

  • @PretendGoose
    @PretendGoose ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Using Precision Mode a lot more (set to about 1/4 the screen size) helped me use the full active area more often. It also helped me keep a better view on my work as I rarely had to zoom in visually.

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a great point. I don’t think I have spent any time at all using precision mode. I’ll give it a try!

  • @minisnakali
    @minisnakali 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just can't handle small tablets, they make me so insecure

  • @SanSoRyu
    @SanSoRyu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it useful to get a large pen tablet when the active area is bigger than the display of the computer or in this case it is better to get a medium size tablet ? ( Also , awesome video thank you ! )

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have tried drawing this way where the Display Is bigger than the active area. Honestly it just feels really weird for me. In fact it feels weird even if the display is Close to the same size as the tablet’s active area. I definitely think getting a medium size pen tablet is the best choice for the vast majority of people. In my opinion it has the best balance of cost and ergonomics And Drawing experience. And thanks for the nice words on the video. I really appreciate it!

    • @SanSoRyu
      @SanSoRyu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thesevenpens ok I see, thanks for the answer !!

  • @dorobo81
    @dorobo81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was looking at new Huion Inspiroy Giano and it is 429 × 260.9 × 9mm vs L wacom's 430 x 287 x 8mm. So in terms of size to reach a keyboard it's the same as my current intuous 3. What do you think of Huions?

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have that Giano model and I use it every day. I am very happy with it! The Huion models made in 2021 and 2022 are very good. Huion still trails Wacom a bit in terms of quality and reliability historically - but i own 7 Huion’s (all from 2020 to 2022) and they all work flawlessly.

    • @dorobo81
      @dorobo81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thesevenpens Thanks for the reply! Sounds good. I was worried it is only bluetooth and if battery dies I can't use it but that is probably not the case :) So it is currently 3x less in price compared to Large Wacom tablet so I will probably go for the Huion. I'm curious to try 8K sensitivity to my old intuous's 1K and also double the active area!

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dorobo81 It is definitely not bluetooth only. In fact I only use it with the USB cable connected.

  • @aintcappin
    @aintcappin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my cintiq 16 hdmi cable broke but i am now using it as intuos haha i think it's the same as large size and i am loving it

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a nice side-effect that many pen displays can be used this way like a pen tablet! It's come in handy for me a couple of times.

    • @aintcappin
      @aintcappin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thesevenpens yes! haha i am still using it as intuos and i think i am more comfortable using it like this, Sucks that cintiq 16 is a 3 in 1 cable so i am not going to buy new cable since i am enjoying it as intuos hehe

  • @gngmov
    @gngmov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Drop the music or turn down the volume... I can barely hear you over the loud music. Very distracting.

    • @thesevenpens
      @thesevenpens  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the feedback. I’ll turn down the volume on future videos.

  • @wakkowarner9522
    @wakkowarner9522 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    slide reviews instead of video reviews are tight!!