Journalist reacts to Taylor Swift's TIME Person of the Year Interview 👀
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I think you make an interesting point about how Taylor's family remains close while being involved with her brand, and how it doesn't happen that way often in the world of child stardom. Britney Spears and Jennette McCurdy recently published memoirs detailing the opposite of this family dynamic. It seems notable to me that Taylor's family was relatively well off financially prior to her rise to fame, unlike Britney and Jennette. Though I'm sure the Swifts never imagined Taylor's fame would be THIS lucrative, I'm sure that has a lot to do with it, they weren't depending on Taylor to support them financially.
you’re totally right. Taylor is famous because it was her dream, they didn’t need her to be for financial gain. they were just good parents supporting their daughter and it went really, really well for them
@@makaylamacleod2962 Correct. Both of Taylor Swift's parents were involved in the financial services industry and lived a upper middle class life (they lived on what amounted to a Christmas tree farm near Reading, PA for many years). As such, Scott and Andrea Swift didn't need their daughter's income, and that allowed Taylor to develop her skills with way less distractions.
Oh absolutely it does. Her success or lack thereof wasn't going to make or break them financially. They'd have had a comfortable life either way (not wealthy necessarily, but secure and comfortable)
@@GhostOfEvermorei dont agree. None of us live in a vacuum. I can guarantee you that many people with talent and intelligence akin to taylor swift are unable to be discovered or follow their dreams successfully because they are poor and have to pursue conventional jobs in order to put food on the table. Taylor coming from a financially comfortable family with very supportive and loving parents that have tremendous knowledge concerning business strategy and financial literacy hugely lessened the burden for her. it doesn’t take away from the fact that without her ambition and diligence, she wouldn’t have gotten this far. but her background, and generally, luck, had a large part to play in her success.
@@GhostOfEvermore While Taylor Swift does have a "once in a blue moon" talent, could she have developed it if her parents essentially lived of Swift's earninngs? That was the issue eventually bogged down and ruined Britney Spears' career.
benjamin buttom being on time’s person of the year cover was not in my 2023 bingo card but i appreciate it
He’s so cute 🥺
shouldve been meredith.
benji flopped
There are no bingo cards. Ewwww….
I have that Bingo Card....
This and the billionaire video are some of your best work. I love that you don't unconditionally gush over Taylor- you give thought and consideration to all your opinions and so thoroughly explain your reasoning. I don't care if there's an official Taylor Swift reporter out there- you're the Taylor Swift reporter we want and need.
Wow Taylor swift becoming a billionaire may not seem all that ethical I think she has a reason for it she's told us that the more things she can do herself For her career she will so I think She's purposely trying to draw in enough money To bankroll everything she wants to do in the future Completely by Herself For example her interested in making movies now If the 1st 1 does well I think she'll decide to bankroll the next 1 on her own
Her and her marketing team need to teach some kind of master class and win some awards. Because to take a pretty, tall, thin, blonde, wealthy and famous woman from a well-off upbringing and successfully market her as the relatable, scrappy underdog is marketing genius. Her storytelling and her team’s branding deserve their own graduate courses.
I think initially it probably wasn't a marketing strategy bc if you watch early interviews with taylor she's very awkward and she didn't have many friends/was bullied in school. but I think her team realized early on how that part of her personality made her relatable and played into it even after she became incredibly famous. she also seems to have imposter syndrome and is motivated by proving people wrong which feeds into that underdog mentality even though she isn't actually an underdog
As a marketer I have to agree. This year alone offered many moments of insanely clever marketing moves that other brands wish to think of. Do not get me wrong, I am a Swiftie since day one but it is quite obvious that her relationship with her fans is also a meticulously crafted marketing strategy. No matter what she does or puts out, her fans will eat it up. Kids plays her music on mute all night long just to be in her top 0.01% listeners on Spotify which basically means nothing but money for her. Absolutely genius.
@@cemo98 This story of being intimidated seems to be a lie for marketing
@@cemo98 it is her team from the beginning. Her debut “Tim McGraw”, their marketing about how she learned her guitar from a computer technician. That was not entirely true and you could see in her eyes during those times that she was uncomfortable talking about it as it was a lie. Her mother hired a guitarist that also owned a computer shop to teach her guitar every week end. They made it sounded like she was destined to be a start like it was magical but really it was her team who was the mastermind 😉
@@0minI agree I’m not a marketer but I can see it. I’m her fan since her debut. When I read about her album intro about how she started playing guitar because of a computer technician repairing her pc teach him how to for a few hours and everything was self- taught it had an impression on me that she was destined to be a the pop princess like it’s magical moment. Looking about now that I know that wasn’t entirely true that her mother hired their town’s guitarist that also owned a computer shop to teach her every weekends for 2 years. If you go back to that days she talked about during that during her interviews but you could see there’s awkwardness because she knew it wasn’t all true. And that reinforced my guess that they chose to name her debut song Tim McGraw to catch country music listeners. It’s always been her team that’s the master mind and she learned from them. She should credit them more tbh.
I read/hear criticism of how Taylor is over-reacting to what happened with Kanye West. But to me, I see it as a perspective of her age at the time and how memory works. She was around 24-25 when they shared the edited phone call, I think. At a younger age, things that you don't expect will be monumental to you, at that time and as time goes on. I had breast cancer for the first time at 23 - I still cry when I even think about it. It literally obliterated the life I had built up to then. Then I had breast cancer at 41 - and it again obliterated my life. But when I think of having breast cancer at 41, I don't cry about it (I'm 50 now). I see it in a different light - and the memory of it while it's more recent is actually not at "big" to me as the memory of having cancer at 23. It's easy to criticize and dive into every little detail, but she's a human being with flaws and she's incredibly strong to withstand the hour by hour pressure of it all.
I think it also stems from the fact that when we look back as a grown up person, we realize that we weren't ready or mature enough for what happened and us knowing what we went through we feel more sympathy and more anger. its kind of being protective about our inner child. We grow up, we learn more about life and with our learned knowledge we look back and realize much more stuffs which hurt us more. Taylor definitely looks back and realizes she was so naive and kind to people who deserved the worst.
so grateful you are still here!!!
A month or so ago I looked into the Kanye Kim Taylor thing. I vaguely remember when it happened but after seeing the tape of Kim laughing while taking pictures of the fake nude body of Taylor - WELL THAT IS DISGUSTING 🤢
And Kim followed that up with helping Kanye twist the whole phone call to make Taylor seem the liar - what kind of woman does that?
A nasty woman, that’s who.
Also a woman in an emotionally insecure marriage…
@@jaimeroop839 Good point!
Kim and Kanye were a little self-centered and narcisstic,at the time,and probably still are.🤷♀️🤷🙆♂️
@@jaimeroop839she was an adult, and she's long since out of that marriage. I didn't hear a public apology. Or any indications of a private one.
Have you seen the video of where her mother, Kris. Is telling Kim that she (Kris) likes Taylor, likes her team and likes Taylor’s mother and that Kim needs to apologize. Kim just laughed at her. She should have listened to her mother.
“Keep making art” brings me back to her speech at the billboards for woman of the decade when she praises Lana for not giving up when everyone was bullying her. She literally says “she just kept. Making. Art.” And it makes me smile. 💕
sam lansky doing this profile was literally everything i could have asked for, his book broken people and also britney's memoir were arguably one of my best reads of this year, and i totally agree he could have pushed further at times but I'd say I'm definitely not disapointed, also 2 videos in a row? no-days-offologist for the win!!! ✨
I hope she pulls an Evelyn Hugo and someday when she’s old and retiring she releases a book full of her secrets, relationships both romantic and friendships, and other just random facts people always wanted to know.
That would be iconic
this would actually be so cool - especially bc the author said she was inspired by Taylor Swift when writing Evelyn Hugo and i see a lot of taylor in evelyn as a character.
As someone also born in 1989,
“millennial behavior” had me cackling. It’s real and I live it every day.
Same 😂 . It’s like staring in a mirror every time she says something deemed “cringe”
love your pfp, so cute!!
I think one of Taylor infinity stones is also stroytelling; telling her own story, telling others stories, her songwriting and how much it tells a story of her growth
I wish we as a fandom were clear about the folklore factoring hugely to getting her where she's at now. Yes, the two events that she brought up are key. I just feel like she neglects this third key event, and I've seen a lot of other nerd Swifties that have been keeping up slowly wake up to this fact.
When I say folklore, obviously I mean everything that lead to that album's making as well as what that album has meant to people in that year and how that contributed to her career.
Yep the pandemic kind of saved / cemented her as a legacy
For sure
I mean I don’t know, but I speculate she has mixed feelings about the times she composed the pandemic albums since she wrote some songs with Joe and in her interview she implies she felt secluded and is regretful of the time she spent isolated. The pandemic was an emotionally charged time in general, maybe she’s still dealing with these feelings post- Joe breakup.
I'm so comforted and glad she mentioned Ana in the interview -- and the article went out with her full name. It's subtle, but if you think about it, her name and memory is gonna be forever printed in none less than effing Time effing magazine.
She definitely mentions or doesn't mention things on purpose, and this was better than anything she could have said that day.
Long live, Ana!
she didn't. the interviewer did.
I think it’s worth noting that Taylor has mentioned watching The Last Dance (the Michael Jordan docuseries) and it impacting her. I have always thought of her and how her mind works very similar to a premier/ all-time athlete. Kobe even admired and respected her. Her focus (maybe even obsession), even on the KK/SB/BM is a very similar trait to many top athletes that either fabricate or mentally intensify feuds or slights to fuel them. I respect her experience and its clear traumatic impact on her, but she has definitely kept the emotional intensity high on this to carry her through this mission. It’s competitive, it’s vindictive, it’s calculated. I say this all as a cheerleader. I just think when people want to compare her to ones before her it makes more sense to compare her to Kobe Bryant than it does to Beyoncé. IMHO.
Great point!! Well, now she’s imerging herself into the world of athletes 😉
@@dreamchaser7603 thank you. And yessss. Her schedule is more similar to Travis’ than one might think. I could imagine their post “game” recovery routines and competitive edges overlap nicely. Not to make it about a guy. It’s just been an interesting year of better understanding her
I noticed that Kobe Bryant was not given shit for taking a helicopter through LA to run an errand, because he hated LA traffic. Taylor gets crap for taking private jet rides. Kobe owned a helicopter and had a place to land it at his mansion.
@@cat.fourdaysinoktobergang1323 well a helicopter does not emit as much as a private jet and it cost him his life, so maybe pick a different example. That topic is for a different post altogether
Good point!
No matter how many times you get cancelled you'll always be my favorite swiftie because you know when to criticize Taylor and also when to give her the credit she deserves. I also love your brutal honesty. More people need to be like that
Preface: I think your content is EXCELLENT. I love that your baseline is critical thinking. It’s clear that not blindly loving every move she makes is actually a gesture of respect from you as a fan. That said, there were moments in this video where I was surprised to have the thought that maybe you were coming up against the bounds of what you can understand about her experience not being a woman yourself. The other week, my boyfriend asked me to look up a certain sweater on my phone and was like ‘Wow, I’m really struck by the fact that your algorithm shows you both male and female models when you search bc I only get fed male.’
I think you have a similar blind spot to the extent that, at the end of the day, you’re not recognizing that her career WAS taken away-not because she was making less money or was literally forced to go into hiding, but because her driving force is to make great work and have it VALIDATED as being great (in spite of coming from a woman’s perspective). In a world that-like his summary says-undermines women in such deeply personal ways, taking away identity, I understood why she allowed her feelings to be ‘more important than anything else’. Logic and facts should never be abandoned, but they also don’t deserve supremacy over other kinds of knowing-esp for an artist.
Sorry, I’m not doing a great job making this point… it’s hard to theorize on a male entertainer going through the snakegate experience because no male entertainers are currently on her level, but the entire crux of snakegate being a referendum on her personality and not her work is just so deeply gendered. Her career depends on people liking her just like all women’s success depends on being liked and performing an acceptable form of socialization, so imo the shift of public opinion against her took away what her career was to her in the realest way it could have - for better or worse
were yall not there when she got cancelled? like everyone hated her...i remember random people who are far removed from the drama in middle school shitting on her bc of this, her friends turned against her, people internationally were sending her death threats and burning her cds and merch. i wouldn't say she was being overdramatic in her feelings, even if she were wrong at the end of the day.
To your point, mariah carey was and is very referential to her old eras and albums.
When you write and produce your albums there’s a sense of ownership and connection that is created; that’s why taylor and mariah are my favorite artists.
I've been huge Mariah fan since I was born, and it's so frustrating that the public has reduced her down to the "All I Want For Christmas Is You lady". She did not write the Emancipation of Mimi to be relegated to a holiday artist.
@@aaliyahfoster2705I feel like it’s because of the younger generation not knowing how amazing Mariah Carey is as an artist all I want for Christmas is only a sliver of how great she is the fact that she wrote this song in like 20 minutes … talent stands the true test of time
@@tbizzzy I know some older people in their 40s who treat Mariah like she was a nobody before that song (Mariah would be big in their teen years). It's very sad. I got into her because my mom is a huge Mariah stan/Lamb (before stan was even a thing) and owns all her physical CDs, even now her new ones like Caution, so I grew up listening to her at a very early age. I Don't Wanna Cry from her debut album is absolutely my favorite song of hers and atmospheric for late-night drives.
@@aaliyahfoster2705 you have impeccable taste 🤎
I was also thinking how Travis recently said that “if she is putting up with all of this attention and criticism, I have no right to act weird” and I think this really is the opposite of the Joe situation we had 42:50
The deal with the Masters was based on ego and money. Her label had a bruised ego because she and her family's initial investment made that company from the ground up. And Scooter just wanted money. Unless we're missing some HUGE piece of information regarding her ex label, there's nothing else I can think of other than Scott wanted to one-up her after she likely let him know she was leaving.
i’ve been checking your channel for the past day waiting for this video! you have such brilliant, important commentary. this is the best channel i’ve found this year!
Oh, I totally psychoanalzed her reference to the movie "Gladiator" when she said, "Are you not entertained?" I think she said that for a reason, and it was more than a Milennial answer.
I have to disagree a little bit here ....at least from my perspective during her reputation era, it really did feel like her career was dead. She was made out to be the liar and the mass cancellation of her is almost the opposite pendulum swing to what we are seeing today of her mass stardom. If you think of the cancelling of her being THAT huge, it does actually seem like a career death. I dont doubt at all that she experienced this as the end of her career. And reputation was only born out of total annihilation and the energy of throwing up your hands and basically going crazy with some female rage. Unleashing the beast despite the consequences. For someone as calculated and modest in her music as swift is, reputation is an album that kinda throws the bomb behind her, blows up what she already thought was dead, and walks away. And in that death is her rebirth.
The Grammy’s snub
I agree with you Hannah reputation is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
As someone who went through a similar reputation death that same era, i empathize with her feeling her career was over. If you arent psychologically well, you cant work. Something like that can fuck u up mentally really bad where its just not fun anymore and you HAVE to hide away. I didnt want to hide either. I truly think she bounced back because of the inner circle emotional support with her family she had with all the accusations and scrutiny. I unfortunately, was not so lucky, so i developed an illness. Ppl really underestimate the dangers of the psychological edge. But i guess my luck is turning cause im a swiftie and gaining strength through this story. So thanks taylor for making art when i could not for myself.
Thx for sharing your experience. I've gone through similar in past 3 years & Swift's music has helped me emotionally get stronger & find my voice. Sending Love ❤
Zach, I loved this thorough analysis. One part that stood out to me was how you talked about what questions were left on and left off of the interview and the surface-level depth to which these topics were probed. I'm no journalist, but I'm speculating this is a good, long-term strategy. What you sacrifice in depth today, you gain in trust tomorrow. Therapeutic relationships must be earned. These relationships seem as important to journalistic endeavors of this caliber as they are between a doctor and a patient. I wonder if this article will open a door for future interviews because some trust was earned in this piece. Fabulous job on this video!
Off topic but this shade of green is TOTALLY your color! It suits you so well
Ok, this disclaimer is necessary:
I struggle with public persona of Taylor Swift and it causes strong negative feelings towards her . On one hand I have mad respect for her artistic process, business talent, agency over her career, working hard to get better. On the other: she looses me whenever she stops talking strictly work, when she still presents things as world is being agains her despite being on top of it.
Now, I loved your complex and balanced take on things!
I will stay here for longer because it is great to, for once, listen to somebody who is a fan, but not uncritical and blind to some more questionable aspects of her career. I appreciate pushback on ‘career being taken away from her’ - was her contract ended? Was she unable to record next album? Was she rejected by media? No, she wasn’t. She was able to come back with new album, and very first music video was something EVERYBODY talked about as huge success and ultimate come back.
I may not be her fan, but I will definately be yours.
It was a pleasure to listen to your analysis!
u're literally just a misogynist
One thing about Taylor’s posts engagement on her instagram: she doesn’t and she never will let the comments define her post’s reach. She deactivated the comments when she came back with the snake posts, and this was one of the smartest things she ever did a few years ago, without even knowing that instagram’s comments would eventually define people’s engagement. If she ever activates her comments again, she will be opening this door that can never be closed, once her visibility will be affected. Right now, everything is organic and her reach is ENORMOUS. I hope she knows this better than me and keeps it that way.
Every single video of yours - in this day and age with dangerously short attention spans - has blown me away with how much I go without a break. Zack, you've probably heard this a million times, but you truly have a gift for words. You really know how to construct an interesting analysis that keeps me listening for looooong periods of time, so much so that I'm actually a little sad when I reach the end of a video. You mix insightful conversation with a sense of humour very nicely and that makes for such entertaining content. Can't wait for the Snammy's in a few hours!!
Taylor really captured my heart,this year.She's thoughtful,generous,funny,captivating,and down-to-earth,at the same time.💛🧡💜 Congratulations,Taylor.💙💛💙
what did i do right in this life to deserve these back to back videos 😭
Pretty sure this is his full time job now. Also, the pay per view rate goes up during December b/c the holiday advertising. That's why you see people doing things like Vlogmas.
@@maryann2970you learn something new every day wow
Not only am I well fed by Taylor but I’m also well fed by you! Thanks for the constant videos and podcast episodes!
I love your points. I love how you use your critical thinking. Things that should have been dug into. The businesswoman, playing the game, and being the underdog are things that are hard to reconcile with the singer-songwriter/ entertainer parts of her.
I still can't believe how your analyses surrounding Taylor Swift in general are so entertaining. For example I would not have the time or, being more honest, the patience to read this whole thing but I caught myself watching an almost 1 hour video of you eloquently dissecting it. Great job! that's why your work's so good to watch.
I really love how smart and well-spoken are you. I admire how you analyse things! What do you think about Miley being in her pre-reputation era when “nobody saw her for year” and not promoting new album and not performing at events, not touring? Her Vogue interview actually was so sad, I almost cried while reading it. She now spends 97% of her time at home… really want to see your opinion about ESV album and and era
Yes, I really would love to see a video on this topic!
me too!
To be fair, I feel really bad for her situation. Her home burned down in the Malibu wildfires and then she had to go through a divorce around the same time. Life-changing circumstances back to back can't put you in a workable headspace. I'm happy Endless Summer Vacation is her reclaiming her passion and joy back in a very strong way. I always hear Used To Be Young on the radio and it reminds me of one of my old college friends growing up and finding her thrill in working after the crazy and almost illegal antics she and her friends pulled off between school.
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I feel that there was number of important questions to ask from Taylor about her fans, the environmental impact she has, the business side of things but I understand why they kept a positive note. They choose her for Person of the Year because she was a positive light in a very hard and difficult year, so having a more "serious" interview would be a strange editorial choice. I think the angle was trying "sell" why Taylor is such a big deal for so many people and overall, i think it worked.
Time did a very interesting video about the unseen impact of Taylor you should see, is very interesting. (Business created around the Eras tour)
As the infinity stones, there are six in total (five for each finger and one in the center). The person that collects all the infinity stones controls the universe. There are six stolen albums. It might seem to Taylor that once she rerecords all the albums, she is once again in full control of her (cinematic universe). More intriguing for me are the horcruxes, since there are seven. Can she be fueling the Karma album theory?
Truth I love the way she takes the events of her life and has an honest refreshing way of establishing herself in her music. Whether it's a story or otherwise she's an amazing artist
Thank you for the thorough review. Interesting that her family and Joe had a huge influence in her career. She had nurture and was grounded. So important for growing up.
I'm so amazed by your thoughts on her overall character, every time it seems like you're walking on a thin gold line between what an obsessive swifty and what a "hater" would say, and it just sounds so open minding. An embodyment of what a true fan should be
This is how I wanna think someone who loves taylor and is not afraid to say their opinion because while yes, we love taylor, she isn't perfect 💕
You’re completely right that her perception may be that her career was stolen from her, but that wasn’t the actual reality. That was the only line from the article that made me wince a little. She’s so powerful and she’s taking away all of her own agency saying that it was “stolen” from her. It was absolutely a takedown attempt and objectively wrong (illegally recording her, sharing it in the first place let alone editing the video and sharing that version to best support Ye’s narrative) - but she chose to take the step back from public view, reassess, recalibrate, and reform herself before coming back to reclaim her place in the music industry and larger culture. I think she could re-frame the way she hindsights what happened and and view it as an attempted takedown that *could have* permanently ruined her career, and instead of feeding into that and forcing herself to remain at the center of public discourse, she *chose* to take a step back, a hard look and a long break from her public life. An artist can have a career without any public life at all aside from their work. I think she’s doing herself a disservice and discounting her willpower and sheer force of determination by saying that her career “was stolen away from her.” It’s not an object, and only she possesses it. Her popularity was taken away from her temporarily (or perhaps more accurately, it was diluted and in some aspects, dissolved for a time), but that is not the same thing as her career being GONE.
Have you just imagined if she didn’t release a an albumbthinking the whole world hates her, it was taken away but she didn’t stay away completely
imo to her being popular is actually her career and most important aim.
I literally went and bought chips right before this dropped, what a nice surprise!! You're killing it. December swiftologist truly shows how good a break is. You're back better than ever and I love how productive you're being
You have literally been the best part of my 2023! Your "Revisiting Midnights after the break up" video was suggested to me back in April and the.rest.is.history! I am obsessed with you and Madeline on EOAS too. What a time to be a Swifty with the Swiftologist keeping us critically engaged. Thank you!! 💙
What have I been waiting for since the announcement and the cover? Yes. Zac's breakdown. This is what I needed.
Just a correction, Zach, that I believe Taylor has had to cancel shows one time due to sickness. I believe it was around four shows on the Red Tour due to bronchitis? Don't quote me lol but I'm almost positive
I just stated lisenting to Evolution of a Snake podcast and am loving it. I love your take on Taylor. Read the interview the moment it came out. I personally love that she mentioned my Queen Kelly Clarkson for pushing the idea of the re-records. I knew about the Tweet but always wondered if they talked. I loved this interview so much & glad she did share a bit more than normal.
I would like to know though... if YOU could sit down and INTERVIEW Taylor A. Swift... what would you ask her?
PS love when you put the mic in our face. I crack up!
i could be wrong but i think age plays a huge part in being open in the public eye, not hiding, not caring anymore what people think. im 36 and i've hit the point in my life where i'll do what i want. if someone likes me, great...if they don't, that's fine too. the older you get, the more you don't care about the small and stupid things. you stop caring about the words of others. you live your life to the fullest. and that's exactly what she is doing. i understand some want a private relationship but isn't life more fullfilling to be proud and mention your partner in the spotlight. all she wanted is for someone to see her and that includes being proud in both privacy and in the public eye.
_"The woman in me"_ 's ghost-writer *_was_* Sam Lensky? 😮 G-A-G
That DOES explain a lot, though, like for instance, why the messy waves and intense eye make-up close-up photo looks *soooo* much with a very popular picture of Britney done in the same fashion, I'm loving it ❤🎉
The last comment in that article got me a bit teary eyed, tbh.
I never looked at it that way, but yeah. He‘s got a point there.
hang on. if Midnights was allegedly a collection of songs written at different points throughout Taylor's career, were a couple of those songs potentially songs she couldn't previously release due to Scott Borchetta not giving her the creative license to release them?
I literally read the article and was waiting to hear what you thought! Always so fun to hear your opinion!
The reason Taylor can work with family and they come out of it okay, if not better, as a family unit is because they are already rich, without her success. This ism privilege in the spotlight.
I absolutely adore your literary insight when it came to digesting this very thoughtful and well written interview for her deserving feature on TIME as person of the year. Your commentary is always so satisfying because a lot of what you touch on echoes the thoughts that go through my mind when you were going through the text. I think he did a great job of taking care to not skew her words, while also almost tactilizing her thoughts and creating such a clear story and timeline for us to visualize and recall when it came to the events of her career and placed us in her shoes somehow. It didn't necessarily reveal much about her that we don't already assume and know, but the excerpt where she candidly explains her relationship with Travis was indeed very new for what we are used to with her! I like how confident she's become over the years.
Love your takes as always, keep challenging the status quo and speaking your mind!
38:31 “she’s DOWN BAD” 😮 lol
The devil works hard but the Swiftologist works harder! And thank you for a close reading on the article, I’ve been to busy to read it myself and everyone else just comments on it instead of looking at it word for word and giving as much insight as you do!
And I agree, I like the cat cover better, I think the other one they’re going for a Marilyn Monroe sort of femme fatale , but Taylor is iconic with her guitar or her cat, she doesn’t need to look or pose like others.
My only critique is not that Taylor is supposed to be an activist. I don’t believe that. But i feel like she uses feminism for collective appeal but it has started to feel so self righteous and not intersectional. Like not just palestine but it’s a good example. Gigi hadid is a BEST BEST friend and she’s still talking about scooter braun 😅 I guess it was a story on her path but my god i wish it was anything new.
It does feel like she lives in a bubble, which she does, but doesn’t seem very aware of the world outside that bubble
Always a pleasure to see your thoughtful comments about pop culture. Thank you! I know that this is very off-topic, but.. I’m still sad that Taylor did not re-record and did not release Battle (Let’s Go)…😔
The blip that was Matty Healy was not mentioned. It got me to thinking- that very short episode was constructed to take the heat off of Joe when the breakup was announced. It served its purpose, and that makes me laugh.
I really want to see your video essay about Ceremonials album by Florence and the Machine! It was iconic since the day it was released… You are truly the best 🩷
Please! 🙏🏼❤️❤️
You know, I don't agree that the reason why she brings up snake-gate is because she loves a hero-journey narrative.
Speaking from my personal experience - I've been through hard times that people around me are tired of listening about. And I've tried to push it down and be "over it" partly because of others, but also because I want to feel like I've overcome that dark phase of my life. But the hurt from that time always comes back to me - because it was that formative of an experience. I think snake-gate is that type of event for Taylor. Without even bringing clinical terms like trauma into it, I fully understand her.
Thanks for the analysis! Great job.
I wanted to touch on something that you mentioned because I think it’s a particularly salient point.
You mentioned you were disappointed when, to sum it up, Taylor said that 2023 was a victory for women because of the massive success of Barbie/Renaissance/Eras and (again summing up) the success was that the women involved made an incredible amount of money and, ultimately, money is where power lies.
I can’t argue the point that money is where power lies, that’s the world we live in. My question to Taylor would be, great, good for you guys, you made a sh*%load of money which gives you power but why is that a good thing for anyone except the people who made the money? Why is women possessing extreme wealth better for the world than men possessing that wealth? Are you going to do something with it to try to make the world a better place? Are you going to try to redistribute some of it in one form or another?
I am a huge Taylor Swift fan but, if she can’t answer those questions, then the fact that she and a handful of other women becoming ultra-wealthy is only a victory for them. For the rest of us, it’s just the sad, corrupt business as usual.
definitely agree! and i wince at that mention of the barbie movie... if that film doesn't encapsulate the kind of "feminism" that taylor swift embodies, then i don't know what does!! just empty, shallow, corporate feminism that's used as a tool to make money, and not really anything of more substance than that. i walked out the cinema after watching the barbie movie feeling a little crazy, because while i found certain moments funny and i liked the costuming and so on... i was like "what on earth was the message?" - it was so convoluted and lazy. and you can't make a feminist barbie film because feminism and the barbie brand are conflicting things! just like how you can't criticise consumerism within a film... that promotes consumerism - hi barbie!
She is by giving those who are working better pay than what is normal in the industry which is good business practice but that is not that common she is also doing different types of philanthropy as well as getting out the vote - which is a contribution to US democracy, talking about abortion as well as hbtq issues/human rights which has cost her countless deathreats . Putting your life on the line for democracy that to me shows real engagement.
when the reporter said that disscussing her was like disscusing politics it really made me think about when a "Swiftie" talks to someone who does not like Taylor, respect her, hate her etc. usually they tend to get into an argument or "debate" much like two opposing political parties would. I wonder sometimes when exactly that happened in her career. Was is right after midnights? When the eras tour started? Could it have possibly started after Reputation? id love to see you make a video trying to pin point the time frame in which she became "a part of history"
I can not get enough of your hot takes on the HBIC, it is so obvious every opinion, good or bad, is coming from a place of love! At the end of the day Taylor is a human being and by definition flawed, you are very good praising her when she does something good and criticizing her behavior when she has done something questionable. Really enjoying Swiftologist December so far 😊🎅
24:12 Zack do you think this Great Replacement she's talking about is re: blonde country singer with a guitar boom post Fearless or maybe... Olivia? who else in the industry could she see as a map-wielder I wonder
I agree
I'm not sure she implied Alwyn not being proud of her.
She made clear to call this relationship "public" and followed that with what that entails. You may remember her discussing the Alwyn relationship as "we decided to keep it private". I think the latter means that whatever happens (showing up, etc) happens off the radar/spotlight as opposed to being a "public relationship".
I just finished the pod, and it wasn’t nearly enough. Never is 🤣 so glad to see this!
Saaaame! I listened to the podcast first and then came here after getting through some more work… 😂😂
@@Denise.Taylorx88 you are my people 🤣🤣🤣
I always how you always state the hard-hitting facts about her in the most loving way. It really helps the delusional ones out there & make you respects her shortcomings as much as you like her for her talents.
The photos are very 80's to me, especially the black and white ones and the high cut leo one.
“Taylor Swift trickle down economics” 😂☠️
I've never seen your videos but wow, you are so well spoken. Really enjoyed this - thank you!
I just discovered your podcast. This is a great thing! You are the beeeest 🥰 It's always very interesting to listen to you. Thank you for all of the content!
I just re-listened to the 2016 episode, part 1. Sorry but you did not mention two great looks: January 12 - At Giorgio Baldi Restaurant and January 17 - At Boa Steakhouse Restaurant. She was serving and slaying. This was amazing looks!! Just wanted to mention this.
Okay rewatching this in August 2024 for clear skin and oh MAN did you predict a lot of things, Zach -- even down to saying "she's down bad" before you knew about TTPD lol
39:36 The Joe shade I felt when I first read that line 😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨
I mean, we can figure out what some of the nefarious reasons were. He has basically orchestrated her downfall and then wanted to make money off of her. All this while knowing she wanted those masters for herself (her referencing Loie Fuller during rep tour made it clear). That's putting salt on the wound that he himself made.
gotta say i love your extensive vocab
I was a bit dumbfounded by the Time's choice. The person of the year in entertainment, sure, but in general? Then I looked at other candidates and thought Taylor is really the best one.
Dude mark benioff owns the time, rest just Google him..
I hope you are getting your bag this month because you DESERVE it. Great video after great video. Thank you for your work!
so glad u picked up on the rep references too!!!
Loved this. You have a lot to offer. Hope you go far.
You were able to articulate thoughts I've been ruminating on so clearly. It could be really interesting to talk about paith in a post modern world/ assigning it to concepts like Taylor Swift/culture or the economy...
i never comment on videos, but Zach i just have to say that i’m obsessed with your content. always thoughtful, engaging and analytical in a way not many other creators (especially in the swiftie community) are. keep going bestie!!
wow! swiftologist, indeed! i'm loving your videos and the indepth analysis. it makes me feel like i'm talking a college course from you! 🤣😍💖
"I had to look up what a infinity stone is"
I LOVE your emergency and 'as it happens' videos 😍😍
Pls make more!! It's not like there isn't a new TS thing every day 😂
This has been one of my favorite videos. Very analytical.
I really liked the article. It is very well written and describes very well her phenomenal current level of success. The photoshoot is amazing too. She looks very natural, confindent and mature. Not so many celebrities can afford to look that good without hours of hairbrush and mega styling.
Natural? th-cam.com/video/uoeGtr3Wy5k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Edo8JEFvsyVW7Adc
"...armpits flashing the camera"...🤣
❤ Love your channel “SWIFTOLOGIST” your knowledge & Honesty is VERY, VERY, REFRESHING 😃
I totally agree with you about the photo shoot. It’s Amazing!! 🤩
You have a beautiful voice & it makes me happy to hear it. 😊 I’m Very impressed at how much information you can remember WoW….. OMG 😳
32:01 you really predicted thanK you aIMee
I’d love to hear your thoughts on Tate McRae’s sophomore album
oh what I would give for Zach to do a full in-depth interview with Taylor, I just know it would be so good
Every artist should have a member like swiftologist on their team to offer counsel and guidance. Someone with genuine love for the artist, but underlying that support is the very under-appreciated courage to provide honest and unbiased critical assessment of the artist's choices, actions and decisions, with free reign to call the artist out on their BS when needed as I've seen Zach done even at the expanse of his own reputation. Many artists surround themselves with enablers, family members, friends, yes-man, and fellow tag along bootlickers who justify, reassure, and support the artist blindly. They operate like the irrational echo chambers of stan culture. Very doubtful that many artists, management teams, or companies would be receptive to having such an independent reviewer on their team though. No matter how well-intentioned or genuine, once someone speaks up to question or advise, they would be easy targets at risk of being labeled a hater, or cast off as an unsupportive fake fan/friend who is jeopardising the artist's happiness or their safe space. But there were numerous times after news broke out about different media personalities that I begin to hope and wonder whether they have a genuine group around them who are willing to be brutally honest because much could've been avoided and improved in the long run.
This is one of your best videos so far. Great discussion!
First of all you are glowing!! Second of all Ty lord for this meal 🙏
This was a pretty wholesome video 😍 Thank you. Thank you for making this. 😁
As always, this is an incredible and in depth analysis. Thank you for doing what you do, swiftologist😽❤️
I'm an older fan, and was a Madonna fan in her heyday, and it is almost like when Madonna entered a different era, it was like the others never existed. Meanwhile, the beauty of TS is that she can embrace all her eras.
i was so excited while reading the heirloom turkey part just for this video and your comment about it.
love your insights on it, as always!
BTW, the author of the piece had included Taylor in the acknowledgements for one of the books.
SO much emergency Taylor journalism these days… Good thing Taylor isn’t the only one who doesn’t take any days off!
Do you have a video that explains why you call him turkey bc I'm so intrigued and ready