Did the Inquisition Conduct Witch Trials?
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id love to see you morph this talk over into things like exorcisms.... like if the church believed the devil didnt send lightning bolts, did they believe in possession, and what was the Rite of Exorcism ? from what i can see the first guidelines appeared in 1600. So in the context of the church, how did grimoires, rites, etc play in?
I've found your channel recently and I enjoy your videos very much. Really well researched and entertaining. Are you an expert or interested in other periods of spanish history too or just the medieval era? Because I think you could do some amazing videos about spanish conquistadores. I know it's a bit outside of this channel's niche, but still
@ANIMAL!!! He has adressed this in several videos. Basically Islamic agression
@ANIMAL!!! I think it was in a video about the first crusade or the video "myths about the crusades". Hope this helps.
From what I understand then, it seems as though most of the witch trials were protestant in the origin?
Kinda like the way early America hunted witches down...in the same regions where CATHOLICS were BANNED.
The Catholics, Protestants and the state were all pretty equal.
Catholic Paris and Cologne was as active as Protestant areas though the reason for it's decline is judicial in nature not because of "Rationalism". In any case it was mostly Catholic areas which were very (I stress this because it is deserved) skeptical of the supposed existence of Witches and in many cases such as in Spain the cases had so many inconsistencies that they just dropped the cases/acquired the defendants. This is pretty much the consensus among serious historians.
@@johnnotrealname8168 well when they did do the trial they actually asked the accused to list the enemies. If the accused appears on list, bye bye accused. But witch hunts like salem were rare.
Not in origin, no.
Regional superstitutions existed, some from before Christianity, others twisted by word of mouth or fictional stories conflated.
The negative aspect of the Protestant movements, was the lack of consistent doctrine: the Catholic Clergy had quality control and the best minds, and were less swayed by vigilant justice.
As a subject of this video, I did not expect the Spanish Inquisition.
I didn't think anyone would expect it.
no-one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Bring out the Comfy Chair!
I think the whole issue about 'witch trials' in Medieval Europe boils down to people conflating witchcraft with heresy.
The Medieval church was not, for the most part, concerned with witchcraft, but it was concerned about heresy. Witchcraft was simply regarded as a form of heresy. I tend to bring up the Knights Templar and groups like the Lollards in 14th and 15th century England as examples to back this up. They were accused of heresy, not witchcraft.
Even Joan of Arc, if you really look at the details of her trial. The main issue with her was that she claimed the Saints appeared before her in corporeal or bodily form, which was seen as dangerously close to necromancy (communing with the spirits of the dead).
Also, in regards to heresy trials, its something of a misconception that everyone accused of heresy was burned. Evidence actually suggests that even people convicted of heresy were sometimes let off pretty lightly, only made to do penance or something. It seems that if it was a first offense, so to speak, and a person had never been involved with heresy before the church was inclined to be lenient.
It really seems that burning was seen as a last resort only used on obdurate heretics, or those seen as leading others astray. I actually think the church really didn't want to kill people, nor did they enjoy it, like some movies make out.
This is pretty much accurate the actual figures are ridiculous I think it was less than 5% and then you have to see how many were in effigy. From the records I have seen while the matters seem juvenile (eating bacon on a forbidden day (which is ironic)) the cases were often just found wanting (the guy was let off) so they could not be bothered to kill them or something to a similar degree.
In fact the great concern of the Inquisition has always been with heresy. Especially the high medieval clergy, who had the best education that could be accessed in the medieval period, did not believe in supernatural versions of demonic action. Trials for witchcraft were very rare and almost always the result of further investigation into the practice of heresies or attacks on Catholic doctrine. The number of people who have been executed by ecclesiastical courts is very small indeed, and is practically irrelevant when compared with secular justice of the same period. Most often the penalties received from the inquisition were the public renunciation of beliefs considered heresy and the confiscation of property
"The Medieval church was not, for the most part, concerned with witchcraft, but it was concerned about heresy. Witchcraft was simply regarded as a form of heresy."- What a dumb comment !
So they were concerned with witchcraft.
really love how you keep debunking common myths of medieval christianity with sources to back it up with.
to know that churchmen not only would belief that witches do not exist, but to also find it absurd is evidence enough that medieval christians aren't as dogmatic as they are portrayed now by "modern" people.
i mean they did kind of burn people alive or burned their bodies publicly after they were executed for being heretics
@@zekun4741listen to the video.
@@ishitrealbad3039 i didn't say witches, i said heretics. even if witch burnings are completely fiction, there were a lot of executions for heresy
@@zekun4741 witchery = heresy
They believed in miracles, devils and angels, but don't believe in wizards.
That's kinda absurd.
The Devil's power arises from the deceptions he's able to convince others to believe. In Christ, there is both wisdom and discernment, that if properly used, can easily defeat these deceptions. The issue, as always, are those who either reject or are ignorant of this truth and are not able to escape the deception.
Very Well said, Bryan C xx
Bryan C Yeah true
I had a feeling that you meant just this in your last video, but still appreciate your intellectual integrity in clarifying. Pax Tecum!
Agreed! In fact the great concern of the Inquisition has always been with heresy. Especially the high medieval clergy, who had the best education that could be accessed in this period, did not believe in ultra-supernatural versions of demonic action.
Trials for witchcraft were very rare and almost always the result of further investigation about the practice of heresies or attacks on Catholic doctrine. The number of people who actualy have been executed by ecclesiastical courts is very small indeed, and is practically irrelevant when compared with secular justice of the same period. Most often the penalties received from the inquisition were the public renunciation of beliefs considered heresy and the confiscation of property
Thank you very much for this great video.Always a pleasure to watch you.
Always interesting! Thank you!
Love to see a person clarify facts about the medieval church. In reality they were pretty decent, knowledgeable and rational, conducting themselves with professional rigorous ethics and examining evidence with almost scientific methods. At the end of the day, it was the life and spiritual well-being of a person that was in game.
your always doing fantastic work bro .
Very informative. Thanks!
HAPPY SAINT NICHOLAS DAY!
Yay!
Ave Maria!
May God save us by his prayers!
thedreadtyger No, may God save us by Christ mediation and sacrifice on the cross, not merely by a man’s prayers.
Very nice video, thanks.
Hello! Happy New Year! Great video! I love your channel and I always learn a lot from it! It is essential to understand the contextual and factual construction in which historical events occurred to overturn certain myths.
Most people have a totally misconception about the Middle Ages. Representations of the Inquisition are a good example of this lack of knowledge, as they are often very inaccurate.
Another great video. Thanks for suggesting the other book on the Spanish Inquisition. I'll have to read that one. The only book I have read on the Spanish Inquisition is one by Jean Plaidy-The Spanish Inquisition: It's Rise, Growth and End. That book really talks about some horrific examples of torture. But I am not sure if Jean is exaggerating based on recent studies that suggest the Inquisition in Spain did not use torture very often. I'll definitely check that other book out that you suggested because this is a topic I am thoroughly intrigued by.
tritosac the inquisition is live and well in the church. it is the oldest and most powerful curia, still around. it wasn't specific to spain, and ratzinger was grand inquisitor for 25 years before being elected pope.
The spanish inquisition was exclusively created to make sure the converting j.3ws werent doing it just in name... That was its real role.
That was The Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith. Not the Inquisition per say as it ended in 1969 under Pope Paul VI. It was renamed by Pope Pius X in the early 1900s as well. However this is only true of the Roman Inquisition not the Spanish Inquisition which ended around 100 years prior in the 1830s (there is also some dispute as to when the Roman Inquisition ended because by the 1800s nothing really happened and from what I know Giodarno Bruno was the last executed "victim" in 1600 so it really depends on what you mean.
I love watching your videos, you're well-informed and easy to follow, but I do wonder what is your educational background and where do you get your information from?
I've read it. Good book.
I read a really informative book tracing incidences of mass ergotomine poisioning though infected grain crops that happened in various countries during wet harvest seasons. It happened throught Europe Russia, Eurasia and The Colonies in North America. It affected groups of people Mentally, in particular, those who ate infected porrige and bread as a larger amount of their calories consummed, because of shortage of other food choices, either due to economic reasons or poor vegetable, fruit or livestock yields.
Ergotomine poisoning, causes halucinations of various senses- seeing, hearing and feeling things that weren't there. It caused mass miscarriages in highly affected areas as well.
Historians that wrote this book, traced suspected episodes that were recorded and tracked written records of wet and dry seasons, grain yields and found that it happened many times in different countries. Ergotomine affects Rye, but other molds affect wheat.
When unexplained mass hallucinations happened in small villages, it triggered hysteria about "witchcraft", because of ignorance.
Eventually doctors started noticing the correlation and figured it out. People can still get it.
That's actually really cool. Where'd you read about this?
@@blacktigerpaw1 let me find the book and I'll post. Maybe Google it?
@@LlyneM-rf3gd Let me know when you find it!
If you could choose the top 5 or 10 books to read what would they be?
Can you talk about medieval peasant? What were their status? And how do they married.
I have one of Henry Kamen's other books. One on the Spanish empire.
Awesome tytt
Thank you for the videos. Do you have any textbook recommendations about Cathar persecutions?
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it is funny how the Basque regions were the most effected... as they were also historically the pagan [both literal and later folklore] holdouts of the region.
Not really
Henry kamen's book is fundamental
In the Von Golin vid you mention how Pagans raid his village and committed unspeakable acts in the name of their Gods. Did witches ever do anything similar ?
Could you cover the Latin Empire and what we call in Greek as "Francocracy"?
I read about the Latin Empire and its domestic policy in 'The last Centuries of Byzantium' (by Donald Nicol) and it was a complete disaster. The Byzantines had it tough with their domestic policy, but so did the Latin Empire. They could barely maintain a standing army and were in a constant state of poverty and weakness. And ultimately the Byzantines recaptured Constantinople with ease because of the ineptitude of their opponents.
Ιοαννης Ρομανιδης;
You should do a whole video on debunking the false rumors of the Inquisition.
It’s actually funny bc you mentioned how “everybody” in the Middle Ages believed in the devil even though the word can be applied to both spirits & humans, so in other words yes devils are real and even the devil, bc again the term can be applied to human and spirit alike, kinda like “Elohim”.
Were there not cases of over empowered special prosecutors like Tomas De Torquemada? What was their impact and what was the damage. Also, I believe that even Johannes Kepler's mother was at one time accused of being a witch.
Kepler's mother was accused of witchcraft by the protestants, around Stuttgart in the 17th century.
4:28 what church is that? Very bizarre design.
Sagrada Familia, in Barcelona. Strange thing is, on the outside it looks kinda nice.
@@RezaChity-G Thanks.
The Inquisition was Catholic, right? My understanding is that witch trials were a Protestant phenomenon.
So, if witch trials were very uncommon and rare events, where does the stereotype come from?
Northern Europe, not the south
Protestant black legend to smear and create hatred towards the Catholic Church
If they did it probably resembled the Monty Python witch trial
Thomas Aguinas, for better or worse, believed in witches.
No he didn't.
Consindering Basque are so different from the rest of the peninsula, they hardly count as spanish.
In the previous video, my comment got an answer from someone who claimed without proof (and got angry that I asked them) that salem "witches" were gulty of crimes against Christians, yet if true, these crimes would not have been wichcraft.
On the other side of the spectrum, the idea of medieval pharmacist is beyond witch defender who think any wise women or female apothicaire would have been a witch and hated out of jealousy while they actually were respected jobs.
On another note, how is your translation going along ?
@@johndough5582 spain has 2 region that are widely different from the rest on many aspect from language to culture and have a separatist bend, Basque and Catalogne.
In the same idea you don't call a Scott english nor do you call a Quebecer canadian.
@@antoinelambert938 Se ve demasiado, querido compatriota, que tu inglés tiene acento... de Bilbao. Kissitos, Eligolechorreaicito mío, muacs....
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Actually, who cares?
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The Devil is real.
Amen