Addressing a Few Myths About the Crusades
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- Discussing and addressing a few myths about the Crusades.
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Were Pilgrims who belonged to an Army, Richards, Barbossas or Phillip's paid well and what of the people who felt the NEED to join the Crusade, were they paid or seperated differently from the 'army'?
Fall of Roman empire
Looking forward to reading it!
Christianity is a native religion of the region. It was born in Jerusalem and was endemic throughout the Middle East and North Africa before the Muslims invaded.
You know what, you have a good point there...
Yeap you are correct actually
@@samy7013 orthodox arent protestant
@@samy7013 The point is Christianity was in the Middle East and North Africa for hundreds of years by the time Islam came to the region.
I had the exact same thought when he mentioned that in the video
"Nothing that rivals the terror of the crusades"
...mongolian throat singing in the background.
Mongol invasion (huns weren't mongols) happened after the crusades tho.
@@ihabhatim5825 The Crusades were still ongoing during the Mongol invasions.
Or the Byzantine Nikephoros Phokas aka “white death of the Saracens” you don’t get a name like that without a little terror.
@Ardashir Iran was once an empire and just like every empire EVER it got to that position thru violence .
@Ardashir He means Persian instead of Iranian. They were pretty terrifying at times.
"unprecedented hate"
Cato the Elder : "hold my salt"
LOL! Scipio salutes you.
It's weird.
In 1986 (9th grade), I had a World History teacher who was fantastic. And in 1986 he warned our little, young MushMinds that books such as the garbage you hold in your hands would be coming.
Objectivity and a desire to cultivate THOUGHT still existed as recent as the 1980s. Just, wow.
I had a teacher assistant warn us in biology class in high school (2015) to watch out for unethical stuff in the future regarding biology. That's all I remember. But similar kind of thing.
Probably an old soul
There's always good honest people. The problem is that they don't give them press nor promotions anymore.
I will simplify it and just say that the baddies thrive on lobbying.
@@galenusv7831 I am so confused by the contradictions in the media, I don't know what to believe anymore, it's so confusing.
It's gone now though isn't it buddy .
"Violence never seen before" Like the Romans in Dacia. The Romans in Jerusalem. The Romans in Carthage. Attila (The scourge of god), exterminating cities full of civilians. Just to name a few pre crusade, pre Christian events more violent than any crusade.
The soft bigotry of low expectations strikes again
@Jotaro97 Crusades are demonized by haters of Christianity especially the other 2 Abrahamic religions
@@johnssmith4005 basically
@@johnssmith4005 Exactly. Especially the one that starts with J is actively trying to demonize it from within.
@Franc The Visigoths were just dreamers who wanted a better life for their families.
What?! A Rolling Stone contributor who’s dishonest?! Who would have thought😄
As a Catholic and registered nurse, I LOVE that shirt you’re rocking.
As a Christian and a soldier, I am also loving that shirt!
Why Does the Heathen Rage - Awesome novel by J. Stephen Roberts - Highly recommend to everyone watching this and please support Knights of the Cross!
Thanks Tom!
@@RealCrusadesHistory do you speak any middle eastern languages
If you want to talk about middle eastern history
You have to know at least some middle eastern languages
@@terrybogars8933 so there's no information whatsoever that can be gleaned from translations or westerner eye witness reports? It is mostly a crusades history channel, after all. Lots of westerners there in that era.
Yiddish?
Really interesting and insightful. Even in Catholic school, they said the Crusaders were evil and abominable savages. I’m glad you set the record straight.
Yet another reason I love the Real Crusades History channel.
I totally appreciate your clinical examination about history J. It's very important for proper education that we can understand what we are looking at warts and all. Looking forward to Knights of the Cross too.
Rolling Stone magazine has....words? Not just photos?!
Do the subscribers know that?
Great video, also worth noting that the raids in the Mediterranean by Muslims powers didn't stop in the 11th century, in fact up until the 18th century, slaves were taken from Italy, France, Spain, Portugal and even as far away as the southern coast of England & the western part of Ireland , also Iceland! America even went to war with the Barbary states because they took Americans as slaves! Nobody seems to want to talk about the millions of eastern Europeans, Ukrainians & Russians that were forced into slavery due to the ottomans, Mongols, etc! I guess if it's white people been enslaved it doesn't fit a certain narrative!
Ryan Gerrard yes a fellow historian, who knows his history. Spot on
The English word "slave" is a derivative of "Slav", as during the Medieval period in Europe so many Slavs were taken and sold into slavery.
@Jotaro97 I thought the Latin word for slave was ‘servus’.... do correct me if I’m wrong
@Jotaro97 Slave comes from Slav. The Latin for slave is "servus".
That "slavus" thing is like the "bigus dickus" joke.
Jotaro97 I got this from Wiktionary, Slave Etymology: “From Middle English, from Old French sclave, from Medieval Latin sclāvus (“slave”), from Late Latin Sclāvus (“Slav”), because Slavs were often forced into slavery in the Middle Ages.[1][2][3][4][5] The Latin word is from Byzantine Greek Σκλάβος (Sklábos), see that entry and Slav for more.”
These people can't even be honest about what chivalry really is rather than the self hatred for courtship they tout it to be. Really pisses me off.
this channel is an echo bubble
@@edwingrove1442 cope
@@augustusalexander5774 ha funny
Courtship is not fornication it's stuff like dancing or having her ride thy horse of thy lover
🤔"Early 2000's", "Rolling stone"........I mean , who would have thought , right? 🤣
In 1096 the Levant was a battlefield and The Crusaders basically were like "Player 3 has entered the game"
You forgot to say that those land were not only initially Christian countries conquered by Muslims but that when the crusades happened, they were still mostly inhabited by Christians. In Egypt, Palestine or Syria, Christians became a minority only at the end of middle ages..
It was rather freeing christian countries than conquering islamic ones.
“Freeing Christian countries”? Yeah, sure, except for the part where Catholics viewed any Christian who wasn’t a Catholic as a heretic and schismatic. Are you aware that there were possibly dozens of “crusades” waged by Catholics against Orthodox, Hussite, Bogomil, Cathar, Lutheran, and other Protestant Christians?
It is, much harder to pass this crap off nowadays. Because of the internet and quite frankly you in particular are a huge part of that.
I am really grateful for your channel. It is a good counterweight to a lot of the disingenuous garbage that I hear about the Crusades. Keep up the good work.
I appreciate that!
It should always set off a little alert in your head when you can tell the author is rooting for one side.
Nathaniel Rourke this Rolling Stone journalist is more left than a left turn. Should open his eyes and his mind
In Provence (in the south east of France ) nearly all the villages are on top of hill because of the muslims raids.
Interesting input, thanks!
Victor Davis Hanson in fact described Alexander's relentless and victorious drive into the Persian Empire as, in a sense, "the first Western Crusade." And that of course was well BEFORE Christianity or Islam existed.
There is also the theory that the Emperor Heraclius' war against the Persians in the 7th century was "the first crusade".
It's just demonization of any war pursued by the West because 'crusade' is popularly used to refer to something unjust and superstitious.
I remember reading somewhere that virtually all crusaders returned home with a net loss of money, based on some data from Galician and Occitanian crusaders who would take off with lots of money and, armament etc. and return with basically nothing.
Love clarifying history,there are written records from the times,it,s good to avoid changing history,thankyou real crusades
Stumbled across the channel. Great video, look foward to more
Good stuff, as always!
You’re the man. I love your material.
I am so grateful that folks like you sink so much time into correcting the errors.
suggesting that the crusades were somehow unprecedented in terms of violence ... did this person ever hear of roman conquests?
Hona Hona which weren’t actually that bloody in a lot of areas.
Thanks for posting this counter balance to current amnesia
This chap is a superb historian. His work is excellent and enjoyable. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Real Crusades History I always enjoy your videos . They are superbly researched and put to shame all those pseudo historians out there these day.
this (the book) is what happens when fedoras do history
Yeah. Like when they (fedoras) used to talk about the history of Christmas on The History Channel.
@@Elsupermayan8870 what's the size of the fedora is it tiny ?
@@Rodrici
Go look and find out.
I knew as soon as you described the author as "some guy", that this "some guy" was going to be in for a roast.
Great video. You are a real historian.
Great information.
I would congratulate you for your brilliant critique; but you were only up against an intellectual midget. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge.
I remember something my history teacher once told me about the crusades. To show how desperate the eastern (orthodox church) were against Arab attacks, apparently the eastern pope hated the roman pope but with the constant attacks and enslavement of Christian settlements, he no choice to ask him for help. I’m not sure how accurate this is but its always something that stuck with me.
The east had no pope, they had an emperor
@@nenabunena a patriarch
Excellent commentary.
I just discovered your channel. Awesome!
Awesome work J. Stephen Roberts!
thanks for addressing the fragmentation of the Islamic world during this period, low information stuff about the Crusades doesn't touch that important context at all
I mean how far do you want to go back?
Perhaps the Hittite Empire vs Egypt because you simply have to start somewhere. The point is the middle east has been one big ongoing battle ground since for ever.
The grasslands of the fertile crescent was the great prize for those coming out of the asian steppes.
To say the crusades bought a new level of violence never seen before to the Middle east proves one thing.
The person who wrote that garbage was an ignorant fool.
So happy to hear you set the story right. Thank You.
You are so welcome
Good video excellent detail.🛡🗡
Excellent. Thanks for calmly getting the real historical facts out there 🙂
I really liked this video keep up the fine work sir 💪🏻
Interesting thanks for the video...
I acquaint the book you first showed to those ancient alien and Bermuda triangle books that were so popular in the seventies and eighties. Big on thrills, low on facts.
equate, not acquaint. otherwise totally agreed.
This content deserves more views! Very interesting and valid, fills in blanks from what is taught in school. Ps, i am a historian by education.
Rolling stone and vanity fair? I think I see the problem alright.
"Unhistorical" may be one of the best words I've heard in a long time lol
Do you have any information about the Knight Albero de Cagnauo 1064 to 1100. I believe he fought in the first Crusade for Jerusalem. Thank you
Hey, it's Jay Stephen Roberts!
Crusade is more of a modern term and thus we refer to each expedition as the 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc. But in the time period the Crusades were actually taking place, how did medieval Christians refer to them?
15:29 You made a slight mistake in saying ".. neither is christianity". Christianity was indeed a native religion of that area in the fact that it grew out of Judea/Palestine.
Yeah, you're very right about this. I thought of that later after I'd finished. Need to add a little note in the description.
@@RealCrusadesHistory : Catholicism wasn’t native or endemic to the Middle East and North Africa. Also, let’s not forget the part where Catholics viewed any Christian who wasn’t a Catholic as a heretic and schismatic. Looking at the big picture: Have we forgotten that there were possibly dozens of “crusades” waged by Catholics against Orthodox, Hussite, Bogomil, Cathar, Lutheran, and other Protestant Christians?
@@samy7013 You realized you debunked yourself? Catholicism wasn't native to the region but Christianity as a whole was. You even listed the branch that was, Orthodox. There were no crusades against Protestant Christians as by the time Protestantism arose as by that time the Pope held little sway over Europe's monarchs and definitely didn't have the authority to launch more crusades.
Have you covered much on Charles V's wars with Suleiman I?
Love your simple one-sentence conclusion!
Sounds like the book was awful, then.
I picked up a book a while back called ‘The Crusades’ by Thomas Asbridge. Any thoughts on this book and author?
It is good. It is on his reading list
www.realcrusadeshistory.com/reading-list
I would love to hear your review of good and bad books to read.
Try this link from his website..
www.realcrusadeshistory.com/reading-list
Thank goodness I didn’t buy this book. It was in my Amazon basket.
Is your book available on audio?
yeah and 200 years?, depending on one view the crusades were still going on during the 1500s to the 1700s
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Well said. New member here
Thanks for the review. This book is/was on my shelf unread. It’s getting traded in. A real shame as I bought it because it appeared to be extremely popular in the subject. I can imagine a large amount of people reading it and assuming it to be factual. A real shame.
Then dont trade it. Burn it. Dont pass on the evilness of lies to anyone, is my opinion.
@@franknada8235 Or, read it and heavily annotate it in red pen, then donate it or leave it in one of those "free book" cupboards on the road for someone to pick up. Pass on the correction and show that there is misinformation out there that people ought to be aware of.
We leave in deaply cynical world. The fought that so munch people where ready to take so much risk for spiritual motivation with little material win is totaly alien for a lot of us
This is what happens when journalists try to be historians.
I shared this on a different (relevant) channel hoping to cross polinate a bit (so to speak)
Any religion can have fanatical factions .
Nope only g tv he West - Academia
It's been a long time since high school but didn't Rome wage holy wars in this region?
Rome never based its wars on religion, but on military expansion. Then they brought their customs, laws and religion, but it never was a spiritual business.
The Romans believed that to start a war it had to be self defense otherwise their Gods would get mad. So I suppose, every Roman war was a religious one.
Thanks for the true
As much as we all say we want to be 100% honest and truthful about history, we all have a natural bias based on our CURRENT philosophical beliefs.
That book is a prime example of that.
"Rewriting history", happens by almost every nationality and religious belief. And those who have no religious belief STILL has belief about religion. This affects every single person in the world.
It affects every one of us. We all have a predisposed idea of how we think the world should be. And then we look at history though those glasses.
We can't even all agree on current events... Much less historic ones!
That's why wars (crusades or any other names we want to call it) have been fought in times past, why they are being fought now, and why wars will continue to be fought into the future.
Wars are fought over land and beliefs.
Some good wars. Some bad wars.
We all agree with, "the good wars"... and we all disagree with "the bad wars".
But we can't all agree on which wars are good, and which wars are bad.
I do like these videos. They are very informative and they are presented with as much balance as possible.
Those are lies we were fed. It’s very dumb. But thanks for being a light in the darkness!
Hey dude. Love what you do. Quick question: what's your opinion on Dan Jones' books? Specifically The Crusades
3:45 I’m starting to notice that Turks and Armenians don’t go well.
The guy in the thumbnail looks a lot like Rodrigo Santoro
Saladin was a Kurd.
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At least the preface didn't offer an apology on behalf of the human race.
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John Green doesn't approve this video
Well John green also thinks high taxes are a good thing.