I really wish I would have got an opportunity to study in JNU .. :( Still, thank you givinv us the glimpse of JNU ..it always fascinates me. I have never seen such intellectuality level in any of the university. They only study to earn degree and job that is it. Here professors and students are LIVING their studies/education. #STANDWITHJNUALWAYS
कबीर: "तब हम भये खालसे प्रेम भगत जब जाना " (खालसे - pure), I became pure when I understood what's love. "माथे तिलक, हथ माला, बाना, लोगन राम खिलौना" Here he attacks the ongoing system and if you want achieve God, it can't be achieved by any kind of dress or physical act. By Ram Kabir means, the one who is omnipresent and in each and everything live or otherwise. His surrenders is surrendering his ego. एक घड़ी न मिलते तो कलयुग होता। SGGS. it means कलयुग starts when I
Sir, अच्छा लगेगा यदि आप गुरू नानक के जीवन और उपदेश पर भी कुछ प्रकाश डालें , दूसरा जो आप कवीर आदि महात्माओं को केवल कवि कहते हैं उससे मैं कुछ सहमत नहीं हूँ उनके संसार में आने का मक़सद और ही था ।
दुःख में सुमिरन सब करे सुख में करै न कोय।जो सुख में सुमिरन करे तो दुःख काहे को होय। कम्युनिज्म वाले छुपा के पूजा मत करो खुलेआम करो छुप छुप कर चोरी करने वाले चोर है।
I just watched the Q&A session of Prof. Makarand Paranjape, and am absolutely disgusted. I believed that JNU students were intellectuals, and that there intellectualism made them transcend reductive polarities of left and right. Indeed, it was reductionism that Paranjape was fighting. (I have my disagreements with Paranjape - I donot think Tagore referred to imperialism while opposing nationalism - although imperialism (especially Japanese imperialism) played a large part of his critique in his book Nationalism. Tagore, through his own professions, has been well established as a universalist, and questions the very identity of a nation state. It is one of the reasons I love Tagore, since I, too, do not believe in culturally defined nation states and prioritization of one state over the other. I am a humanist, who believes that nations are only a political necessity, not an ethical foundation for loyalty.) However, it is clear from Kanhaiya's (and a huge chunk of the crowd's) response, that they suffer from the same look-over-the-shoulder paranoia that hardline nationalists and xenophobes suffer from. He poses numerable question to Paranjape - "Does Paranjape support the lawyers' violence outside Patiala House Court?" "Does Paranjape support the call for vigilante justice meted out in the name of patriotism?" "Does Paranjape sympathize with Gandhi's assasination?" "Why did Paranjape not mention Hitler's atrocities while he mentions Stalinism?" Why should he? How is your demand for his condemnation of Hitler any different from the right-wing's demand for chanting "Bharat Mata Ki Jai"? Do you suspect him of being a hardline nationalist, a right-wing nutjob, just because he outlines the dangers of communism and party intellectualism (which Kanhaiya and his "comrades", through his jibes and sarcasm, has clearly proven to exist)? In this way, are you not subscribing to the same "you're either with us, or you're against us" dogma that the right wing reeks of? Kanhaiya meets Paranjape's arguments with rhetoric. Isn't rhetoric supposed to be the weapon of a demagogue? Isn't rhetoric supposed to be simplistic and anti-intellectual? Isn't that what smug 'cool' self-assured, dismissive assholes do? A Chinese student of economics from JNU responded to Paranjape's criticism of the Chinese political setup and said that he has never seen oppression in his country with his own eyes. The crowd claps to this. Really? You sympathize with PRC? The same PRC that once declared "Let a hundred flowers bloom!" in the name of democracy and intellectualism, and then stepped in to crush those flowers? The same PRC that sponsors acts like stomping out fetuses of women who have already had a child? When the JNU issue began, my heart stood with JNU and spoke out against the creeping fascism of the government. My rage spared no effort to call out the bullshit of the loonies and emergent xenophobes of the political right. My heart still stands against fascism - the defining characteristic of fascism being a conformism to a narrative (be it national struggle or class struggle) and a tendency to snuff out any dissent by ridicule, intimidation or force. But I am not sure if it stands with JNU anymore. There are Holocaust deniers. We call them Neo-Nazis. Then there are deniers of Communist purge and Maoism-Stalinism-Naxalism. What do I call them? I can't call them the left, because I identify myself as a leftist (Contrary to what you might think, I am not a centrist. Centrists are fence sitters who, in their pathetic attempt to avoid paradox, ironically end up exemplifying it). I can't call them Marxists, since many modern day Marxists have wide disagreements with Marx's theories. I myself am a post-Marxist (in some aspects, I am a typical Marxist.) What do I call them? Where do I go now? Whom do I support? Where are the real intellectuals, the real liberals, the real progressives? Do they even have a front? Will they ever see a movement? Beside AAP, will we ever have a real alternative for BJP to fight for the future of this country? I was planning to do my masters in JNU, since I saw it as an intellectual stronghold - the most powerful such stronghold in the country. I see my resolve weakening. I will fight the good fight against BJP. I will call out their pogroms, false flags, assasinations and intimidations. I will fight the good fight against fascists, populists and majoritarianists. But I will never be your 'comrade'. Make no mistake. You're not intellectuals. You merely tow the party line. The sooner you realize this, the better for this country. And by the country, I mean the people. I request the people I'm tagging to forward this message to the professors at JNU. JNU must reform. It's style for discourse must learn to avoid rhetoric. It remains the only hope for India, and simultaneously a threat.
+Ronit Hazarika very well put. But I don't think video of that lecture can be the true representation of level of discourse in JNU. I believe there are several leftist student organizations in JNU so they must have differences in their ideologies. I am sure students do engage in more nuanced debates which is proved by the fact that some of the best academicians, who have produced some of the most intellectually stimulating works, are JNU alumni. You have to see the context of that lecture; that was when there was anger among students against what was going on(students arrested, media trial, superficial national anti national debate). And, in my opinion Kanhaiya does not represent the intellectual prowess of JNU. He of course is a gifted orator but he speaks more like a politician rather than as an academician. Of whatever little I've hear, Umar Khalid is really good, he makes a point and backs it up with logic. (Hope you don't make up your mind to not join the University simply on the basis of a youtube video :)).
Pde hote to malum hota jnu jane k liye kitni mehnat krnj pdti h Puri sal tayari ki thi pr cuet k ans.key aane k bad dil tut sa gya h Sona adura hi rhta dikh rha h
I agree. JNU is a cash-rich university that teaches anti-nationalism. Purushottam Agarwal is full of himself, but talks nonsense, and all JNU nerds lap him off. I have seen Kanhaiyya Kumar heckling Makarand Paranjape because he had no answers to Prof. Paranjape's knowledgeable arguments. The only classy professors from JNU are Prof. Makarand Paranjape and Anand Ranganathan. Prof. Agarwal is the usual Marxist crap.
I am getting addicted to the speeches/talks in JNU by their legendary professors.
Absolutely correct sir@38:18. None had courage to accept this. Thank you!
I really wish I would have got an opportunity to study in JNU .. :(
Still, thank you givinv us the glimpse of JNU ..it always fascinates me. I have never seen such intellectuality level in any of the university. They only study to earn degree and job that is it. Here professors and students are LIVING their studies/education.
#STANDWITHJNUALWAYS
Hearing this takes me back 25 years !
कबीर:
"तब हम भये खालसे प्रेम भगत जब जाना "
(खालसे - pure), I became pure when I understood what's love.
"माथे तिलक, हथ माला, बाना, लोगन राम खिलौना"
Here he attacks the ongoing system and if you want achieve God, it can't be achieved by any kind of dress or physical act.
By Ram Kabir means, the one who is omnipresent and in each and everything live or otherwise. His surrenders is surrendering his ego.
एक घड़ी न मिलते तो कलयुग होता। SGGS. it means कलयुग starts when I
माटी कहे कुम्हार से कि तू क्या रोंदत मोय।
एक दिन ऐसा आयगा कि में रोंदू तू रोय।
हार्दिक नमस्कार पुरुषोत्तम जी अग्रवाल के लिए
Great discourse.
wah it is a very good lecture
I wanted to listen to sir's interpretation of sufism :(
waw sir, Maja aa gya.
Jay ho
Thank
🙌🙌👏🙌🙌
hindu kahe mohe ram pyara, masalman kahe rahmana, apas me dono ladkar mar
gaye, maram na koi jana
Sir, अच्छा लगेगा यदि आप गुरू नानक के जीवन और उपदेश पर भी कुछ प्रकाश डालें , दूसरा जो आप कवीर आदि महात्माओं को केवल कवि कहते हैं उससे मैं कुछ सहमत नहीं हूँ उनके संसार में आने का मक़सद और ही था ।
Good sir17
दुःख में सुमिरन सब करे सुख में करै न कोय।जो सुख में सुमिरन करे तो दुःख काहे को होय। कम्युनिज्म वाले छुपा के पूजा मत करो खुलेआम करो छुप छुप कर चोरी करने वाले चोर है।
Very nice 👍
Lal tshirt mai Kaushik bhaiya
Mr. Agarwal is very funny. What is
लो ये भी भक्ति पर बोलने लगे, न कभी भक्ति की न ध्यान लेकिन प्रवचन करेंगे.
Maine Taj Mahal nahi bnaya, pr mai taj mahal k structure pr, engineering pr bat kar sakta hu.
Tune kiya hota toh aaj esa na hota
Behas karne ke liye bhej do apne kisi pande ko uakr denge yeh
Azadi azadi from Afzal lover gang...
HINDI ZINDABAD ,
Kabir panth me jude
I just watched the Q&A session of Prof. Makarand Paranjape, and am absolutely disgusted.
I believed that JNU students were intellectuals, and that there intellectualism made them transcend reductive polarities of left and right. Indeed, it was reductionism that Paranjape was fighting. (I have my disagreements with Paranjape - I donot think Tagore referred to imperialism while opposing nationalism - although imperialism (especially Japanese imperialism) played a large part of his critique in his book Nationalism. Tagore, through his own professions, has been well established as a universalist, and questions the very identity of a nation state. It is one of the reasons I love Tagore, since I, too, do not believe in culturally defined nation states and prioritization of one state over the other. I am a humanist, who believes that nations are only a political necessity, not an ethical foundation for loyalty.)
However, it is clear from Kanhaiya's (and a huge chunk of the crowd's) response, that they suffer from the same look-over-the-shoulder paranoia that hardline nationalists and xenophobes suffer from.
He poses numerable question to Paranjape -
"Does Paranjape support the lawyers' violence outside Patiala House Court?"
"Does Paranjape support the call for vigilante justice meted out in the name of patriotism?"
"Does Paranjape sympathize with Gandhi's assasination?"
"Why did Paranjape not mention Hitler's atrocities while he mentions Stalinism?"
Why should he?
How is your demand for his condemnation of Hitler any different from the right-wing's demand for chanting "Bharat Mata Ki Jai"?
Do you suspect him of being a hardline nationalist, a right-wing nutjob, just because he outlines the dangers of communism and party intellectualism (which Kanhaiya and his "comrades", through his jibes and sarcasm, has clearly proven to exist)? In this way, are you not subscribing to the same "you're either with us, or you're against us" dogma that the right wing reeks of?
Kanhaiya meets Paranjape's arguments with rhetoric.
Isn't rhetoric supposed to be the weapon of a demagogue? Isn't rhetoric supposed to be simplistic and anti-intellectual?
Isn't that what smug 'cool' self-assured, dismissive assholes do?
A Chinese student of economics from JNU responded to Paranjape's criticism of the Chinese political setup and said that he has never seen oppression in his country with his own eyes. The crowd claps to this.
Really? You sympathize with PRC? The same PRC that once declared "Let a hundred flowers bloom!" in the name of democracy and intellectualism, and then stepped in to crush those flowers? The same PRC that sponsors acts like stomping out fetuses of women who have already had a child?
When the JNU issue began, my heart stood with JNU and spoke out against the creeping fascism of the government. My rage spared no effort to call out the bullshit of the loonies and emergent xenophobes of the political right.
My heart still stands against fascism - the defining characteristic of fascism being a conformism to a narrative (be it national struggle or class struggle) and a tendency to snuff out any dissent by ridicule, intimidation or force. But I am not sure if it stands with JNU anymore.
There are Holocaust deniers. We call them Neo-Nazis.
Then there are deniers of Communist purge and Maoism-Stalinism-Naxalism.
What do I call them?
I can't call them the left, because I identify myself as a leftist (Contrary to what you might think, I am not a centrist. Centrists are fence sitters who, in their pathetic attempt to avoid paradox, ironically end up exemplifying it). I can't call them Marxists, since many modern day Marxists have wide disagreements with Marx's theories. I myself am a post-Marxist (in some aspects, I am a typical Marxist.)
What do I call them?
Where do I go now?
Whom do I support?
Where are the real intellectuals, the real liberals, the real progressives? Do they even have a front? Will they ever see a movement? Beside AAP, will we ever have a real alternative for BJP to fight for the future of this country?
I was planning to do my masters in JNU, since I saw it as an intellectual stronghold - the most powerful such stronghold in the country.
I see my resolve weakening.
I will fight the good fight against BJP. I will call out their pogroms, false flags, assasinations and intimidations. I will fight the good fight against fascists, populists and majoritarianists. But I will never be your 'comrade'.
Make no mistake. You're not intellectuals.
You merely tow the party line.
The sooner you realize this, the better for this country.
And by the country, I mean the people.
I request the people I'm tagging to forward this message to the professors at JNU.
JNU must reform. It's style for discourse must learn to avoid rhetoric. It remains the only hope for India, and simultaneously a threat.
+Ronit Hazarika very well put. But I don't think video of that lecture can be the true representation of level of discourse in JNU. I believe there are several leftist student organizations in JNU so they must have differences in their ideologies. I am sure students do engage in more nuanced debates which is proved by the fact that some of the best academicians, who have produced some of the most intellectually stimulating works, are JNU alumni. You have to see the context of that lecture; that was when there was anger among students against what was going on(students arrested, media trial, superficial national anti national debate). And, in my opinion Kanhaiya does not represent the intellectual prowess of JNU. He of course is a gifted orator but he speaks more like a politician rather than as an academician. Of whatever little I've hear, Umar Khalid is really good, he makes a point and backs it up with logic. (Hope you don't make up your mind to not join the University simply on the basis of a youtube video :)).
JNU tere tukde ho..🤬🤬
Abe padh lo yaar . Bhala hoga tumhara .
Chota soch.
Pde hote to malum hota jnu jane k liye kitni mehnat krnj pdti h
Puri sal tayari ki thi pr cuet k ans.key aane k bad dil tut sa gya h
Sona adura hi rhta dikh rha h
Pdhaai kro bhnaa.. Dimaag ki nasho ko khulne ka mauka do
Koi baat nahi hum tukde tukde pure desh me faill jayenge
if such specimens are /were teachers in JNU then one can imagine the trash level of JNU.
hahaha...sour grapes...
Trash? You nincompoop
I agree. JNU is a cash-rich university that teaches anti-nationalism. Purushottam Agarwal is full of himself, but talks nonsense, and all JNU nerds lap him off. I have seen Kanhaiyya Kumar heckling Makarand Paranjape because he had no answers to Prof. Paranjape's knowledgeable arguments. The only classy professors from JNU are Prof. Makarand Paranjape and Anand Ranganathan. Prof. Agarwal is the usual Marxist crap.
Hindi meri madari juban h 💩