LOL at the nerd telling Ben to get his own CNC machine and start building parts from scratch when Ben doesn't even want to be bothered to clean his guns.
I'm definitely going to use that now. If you trusted them to build it then they should be fine to fix it. If anyone says this to me in person I'm going to ask them why they didn't just build the gun themselves then 😅
Lmfao. I am a CNC machinist and that nerd who suggested Ben just run out and buy a CNC machine so he can make custom grips and slide stops has no idea what he's talking about. Yeah, just run out and drop like $150,000 so you can get custom grips. These guys who suggest a laymen run out and buy a machine don't even understand the limitations and capabilities of the machines they suggest. You have to buy the right machine for the job. In the gun industry you typically see 5 axis machines with tombstone fixtures being used. The tombstone alone costs thousands of dollars. Hey nerd, show us your personal CNC machine that you use for your custom grips. I'm sure you have a really great setup!
I think the biggest problem with Staccato's warranty..... it is NOT TRANSFERABLE!!! That is insanity in this industry. I work in the industry, and 99% of these manufacturers will fix their guns FOREVER for free, and they dont give a damn who owns it. Ive sent in 40yr old Rugers that broke due to customer abuse, not in any way Rugers fault, and they repair AND refinish old guns for FREE.
“Get a CNC machine” 😂 that comment right there tells me the guy is full of crap. A CNC capable of producing a 2011 frame, slide, and other parts is a 1/4 million easy.. Most suggesting simply swapping the slide stop don’t know that slide stops are supposed to be fitted in these guns.
I've had to use Staccato warranty on two separate Staccatos. The first one was for a magazine seating issue, and they took care of me. The second was for excessive overtravel on the trigger after breaking a shot. I sent it in, and they had a quick turn around time. It came back feeling almost the same with a nasty note about "customer carries gun at half cock, don't do that". Never carried it, and if I did it certainly wouldn't be at half-cock. Your mileage may vary good luck!
People wanna act like CZs are more reliable or less finicky but I'm over here on the 3rd trigger return spring and my 2nd extractor + spring on an otherwise stock Shadow 2 OR with less than 10k rds on it. Plus I had to polish the chamber/feed ramps just to get it to extract properly and stop breaking extractors.
Then send it in on warranty. Did you single load through the ejection port a few times? Cleaned behind the extractor in those 10k? Trs are a known issue, but every 3k is quite early.
Buying a staccato a few years ago was not like buying one today. Popularity has grown immensely therefore, production has ramped up quality control has gone down a little bit. I’ve seen these very common problems quite a bit now nowadays it does seem like they give the Xc a little more attention on the quality control side.
I have an XC that has already been back once and they never fixed it. I’ve been really frustrated with the Staccato XC gun and ended up buying an Atlas Athena, which has been great. Staccato either cannot or unwilling to fix my gun. I’m not happy with the customer service I have received to this point.
“I love chatting with the guys always a good time” at the end. I don’t believe you sir. 😂 But did he clean the gun? Did he know he could buy another slide stop? 😂 Poor guy. I agree it’s got a defect but it probably has more rounds on it that most shooters shoot in a year or two. I appreciate you offering high volume testing and feedback. It’s funny guys talk about not trusting a Service pistol like a Glock without like 2,000-4,000. I’m like “So you want to buy that Glock a few more times in ammunition before you trust it?”. I appreciate your patience with us! EDIT: Also, if Staccato will fix it let them. These videos are all shot in various rentals (hotels, airbnb’s, different houses). Ben doesn’t seem like he has the time to pick up hobby gun smithing. Which is great because it reviews the company as well!
I had a new G19 completely stopped on me at less than 400 rounds. The striker spring cups had excess plastic on the sides from molding process, the striker bound up in the striker sleeve and it stopped. I just replaced the spring cups and striker sleeve but contacted Glock to tell them about the issue and gave them the SN in case other issues with those parts came up. They immediately offered me sending it back for evaluation and repair.
Staccato is not a sports car . Why does everyone say that ?- they don’t even say that by them self. They are a over priced duty gun that is under spunged and can’t handle ammo that you should want to use in duty instead of the low load match ammo. In duty you want stopping power. But they seem at least have a good customer service.
People who have bad experiences and people who have good experiences are probably all telling the truth. Sometimes you get a different service rep and sometimes they're in a bad mood. In 2017, Trijicon refused to warranty my RMR after four weeks of waiting when I broke the lens (they comped the repair after I told them to send it back as is). A few years later, they replaced that RMR with a brand-new Type 2 within a week when the buttons flew off.
All the comments referring to the gun being dirty the 2011 can run dirty as long as it’s lubed as long as this gun is wet you can fire thousands of rounds without cleaning it
Ben, can't help but wonder if the lockback issue is to to the worn/weakened magazine springs you mentioned. Have you checked to see if it works better with your new, unused magazines? Thanks as always for the great content (training or trolling appreciated equally.)
The demand for a tight moa accuracy with highly reliable mechanics and functioning parts is what Delta has been trying to get with their guns. The car analogy is rally cars that will attack a course with obstacles, dips, gravels and dirt at maximum speed with the most efficient maintnaince. Versus street or luxury cars that breaks when driving over a single curb.
I just buy Zev slides. Getting Glocks at vlue label prices, plus the price of a Zev slide, it comes to about the price everyone else pays for there MOS. Maybe direct mount isn't measurably better, but it makes me feel better lol
Any chance they could have issued a voluntary recall? This is a weapon marketed to protect life and yet Staccato just sat and waited for people to call in complaining about a known issue. I wouldn’t have thought less of Staccato as a brand if they came forward saying they had a bad run of slide stops.
Ben, I know you've talked about it before but can you touch on not riding the trigger reset in a little more depth? in your 'low recoil ammo in a low recoil gun' short on IG it looks like you're riding the reset but can't tell for sure. thanks!
The idea is to get your finger off the trigger and ready to fire again basically as soon as it breaks. This approach aligns much better with trigger control at speed; you will actually have more consistent presses when you put the wheel in your own hands. You want to set the pace of firing, not the gun. This will naturally allow you to split based on vision and nothing else.
What gets me about your comments about 2011 mags is why the hell did it take until last year for companies to sell versions that take alternate mags like the OA 2311 or Platypus. Like why isn't there a 20yo design using a Beretta 92 mag?
The only people that would be extremely mad about it is if they put all their money into one gun and by sending it off, they don’t have another gun to carry or train with. Why else would you put that much importance on one gun. You send it back they fix it. You get it back better than new: problem solved.
CZ themselves would only sell me an extractor if I sent it to them to install it. Otherwise they would not send out any of what they had on the shelves when I had two guns in need of them.
It seems like they have a parts availability issue. I remember when I had a discontinued suppresor ready cz P01. The front sight tritium went out, so they took my gun and sent me a brand new one they had lying around 😅.
I’m pretty sure that’s where all this “a dirty gun should function” nonsense is coming from. In other words, I bought a Glock so I don’t have to clean anything.
@@HaydenLane9mm I've got >10k rounds through my 34 and I don't remember ever actually cleaning it. I've certainly never cleaned a mag. Probably I wiped off some of the shmoo when I was working on it, but otherwise, nope. Lube? Also nope.
I'm a Glocker. I have a staccato P and I'm still a Glocker. There's no competition in so many ways. Glock breaks, you fix without having to think about a Smith. 2011 break...now you need a Smith. You do the math
@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw if I'm spending $5,000 for a Staccatto I wouldn't want to build and fit my own parts. That's what I pay Staccatto for. Your point fundamentally doesn't make sense. On the flip side, the Glock people like them because they're easy to fix and not have to worry sending them off to a gunsmith. I know because I'm one of them
@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw Tried that, it cost me a decent chunk of change, and I would likely have to invest hundreds into another gun to make sure that I'm not going to fuck things up again in the future. Glock works, and if it doesn't, it's an easy fix. This is the general rule for guns in that segment.
Ben, have you fully transitioned over to using 2011s for classes/ competition or do you use a modern polymer frame striker fired 9mm every now and then? What made you shift to a 2011 in the first place? Do you ever think of using a plastic fantastic (Glock, M&P, etc) again because of the parts availability? You put a lot of rounds through all of your guns and that is one advantage to shooting guns of that nature- parts availability and sheer reliability though they can be uninteresting. Separately, when do you think you would replace the barrel on the staccatos? What’s that process like in terms of sourcing parts from a smaller manufacturer? Best.
I love all the comments about how you don’t maintain the gun, when Remington is probably going to make you Rem Oil Salesman of the year 😂. All the guns should need is a wipe down and lube on occasion with the very infrequent full breakdown and clean.
Ben not doing his own laundry so on brand, I imagine he's got a huge pile of shirts that he gets for free get the new one and where is it. 😂😂 That being said, doing laundry is annoying, folding clothes is tedious
I suspect these comment reply videos are going to get fewer and farther in between. By the end of this one I think he was more annoyed than he was when he had to send the gun back.
it's funny how whenever 1911s or 2011s are mentioned every hammer-fired boomer comes out of the woodwork to give their antiquated opinion about what is best practice. the guys saying you have to clean these guns religiously are as bad as the sig nerds who say you're bad at maintenance when your carbon steel 365 or 320 rusts just from being looked at.
DIRECT MOUNT GANG GANG >:( Fr tho, I didn't get my G17 milled for a few years even though I wanted one because of the wait time. I didn't want to be without my carry gun for what I thought would be like, at least a month. Wager machine works had my slide back to me in a week and a half tho when I did decided after buying a cheap optic ready slide and figuring out that A aftermarket slides suck and B it was worth the 85 + 15sh to have my slide cut to a higher degree with recoil bosses than some cheap ebay slide lol. MOS isn't an option since I'm in CA and those models are not on the roster otherwise... would've got that in the first place and just run the same buis's I do rn if I was worried about the plate failing, which like, screws fail anyways so who gives a shit.
I’m in exactly the same boat. With my 19, 17, and 34. Gen 3 only because I’m in California. Discovered that aftermarket slides are shit, so I got cheap OEM slides off eBay and had them milled. Direct mount FTW. And if I want irons, I just swap back to the original slide.
Finally someone calls out the "clean and lube" crowd when there's malfunctions. They are just as bad as the "just needs 500 rounds to break-in" crowd. Big red flag that person doesn't know shit. Those are parts or tolerance issues. Also those people have never owned or shot a true gunsmith built tight tolerance guns that actually need break-in.
I dont like the fact I cant even get a spare extractor from Staccato unless its a warranty issue. LoL I can rebuild my Glocks twice each with all the spare parts I have.
@@Rubelessblah blah blah Had one break, gun down for the week end over an extractor. I know all about fitting an extractor. Simple stuff. Ordered an extractor from another mfg. Problem solvee.
Trust them to build it but, turns out they screwed it up while building it initially. That is the funny irony of it. Even tho it’s not a big issue that ruins the gun. It’s still funny.
Ben if you hate sending your guns like we all hate sending them just get them to send you a stop and they have it documented that you had a problem so not sure why you would basically refuse to try that no offense to you of course!
@@onpsxmember Yes and no I've only had to take the file to one or two out of about ten but those were 1911's not sure on the staccato's. You would think he knows a lot of people that could fit that for him in about ten minutes versus taking the risk of something going wrong with shipping doesn't make any sense to me it's not the barrel it's a slide stop !
@@loupuleff571 But why would he pay someone that can't know the intricacies as well as those that build them to do a job he gets for free within warranty? Shipping should be insured.
I stopped changing the oil in my own car because if I screw something up, I have to pay for it. If the dealer or mechanic screws something up they have to pay for it.
how can you mess up an oil change. I used to drive 30K a year and did my own for years. The correct answer is the cost for the oil/filter is not much diff. from paying for it. if you ever plan to to go rural, you'd better lose the silver-spoon complex and learn how to change your own diapers.
Everyone: OMG BEN YOU’RE A SHOOTING GOD! Also everyone when Ben’s gun doesn’t work: …well Ben, you are an absolute troglodyte who is reckless and knows nothing 🤷
pranka wants to create a "gun trainer" standards board akin to being a Union carpenter or a board certified doctor. So much for the free market. For decades we never needed to militarize the police, and now prankster pranka wants to make a profit while training the standing army who will obediently crush citizens who revolt to having their country flooded with "brownies" (just look at what occurred in England). Train Citizens hommie! I dont care about the staccadoo-doo. Give me a basic carbine all day. FWIW.
Buying a staccato a few years ago was not like buying one today. Popularity has grown immensely therefore, production has ramped up quality control has gone down a little bit. I’ve seen these very common problems quite a bit now nowadays it does seem like they give the Xc a little more attention on the quality control side.
LOL at the nerd telling Ben to get his own CNC machine and start building parts from scratch when Ben doesn't even want to be bothered to clean his guns.
"no. I'm not going to do that. Nerds can do that.". Dead!
"I trusted them to build it" fuck that's such a good comeback
I'm definitely going to use that now. If you trusted them to build it then they should be fine to fix it. If anyone says this to me in person I'm going to ask them why they didn't just build the gun themselves then 😅
Lmfao. I am a CNC machinist and that nerd who suggested Ben just run out and buy a CNC machine so he can make custom grips and slide stops has no idea what he's talking about.
Yeah, just run out and drop like $150,000 so you can get custom grips. These guys who suggest a laymen run out and buy a machine don't even understand the limitations and capabilities of the machines they suggest. You have to buy the right machine for the job. In the gun industry you typically see 5 axis machines with tombstone fixtures being used. The tombstone alone costs thousands of dollars.
Hey nerd, show us your personal CNC machine that you use for your custom grips. I'm sure you have a really great setup!
Ben is feeling cheeky this episode 😂
I think the biggest problem with Staccato's warranty..... it is NOT TRANSFERABLE!!! That is insanity in this industry. I work in the industry, and 99% of these manufacturers will fix their guns FOREVER for free, and they dont give a damn who owns it. Ive sent in 40yr old Rugers that broke due to customer abuse, not in any way Rugers fault, and they repair AND refinish old guns for FREE.
Easy fix, don’t buy one.
Love these mail bag reads.
I wonder what the lead time is. If it takes months, I personally think it's unacceptable depending on the service.
“Get a CNC machine” 😂 that comment right there tells me the guy is full of crap.
A CNC capable of producing a 2011 frame, slide, and other parts is a 1/4 million easy..
Most suggesting simply swapping the slide stop don’t know that slide stops are supposed to be fitted in these guns.
If I’m spending that much money on a gun, if it doesn’t work 99.9% of the time, then it better be giving me head in the morning….every morning.
If anything you are being generous. I generally get a bad round or I didn't clean the extractor or something causes a failure within 3k with the s2.
You should hold your husband to that same standard.
@@axm2689got his ass
@@axm2689You own a Staccato? That's even gayer than two guys being married, you might even be gayer than a Sig fanboy.
@@Chud9737 sounds like you have a firm HAND-le on the preferences of your community's member's. Congrats I guess?
"Corvettes don't get driven." Exactly!
C5's are one of the most commonly recommended track cars right now. They are excellent performers, they run, and parts are readily available.
@@Osprey1994 No shit? Old girlfriend used to have an 01 Z06.
@@Osprey1994definitely could’ve used a different car for the analogy lol
I've had to use Staccato warranty on two separate Staccatos. The first one was for a magazine seating issue, and they took care of me. The second was for excessive overtravel on the trigger after breaking a shot. I sent it in, and they had a quick turn around time. It came back feeling almost the same with a nasty note about "customer carries gun at half cock, don't do that". Never carried it, and if I did it certainly wouldn't be at half-cock. Your mileage may vary good luck!
"Nasty"
it seems they are slowly going back into how they were when they were sti, and were getting a bad rep.
21:14, Ben dropping truth bombs. Thanks Ben
Thank you for sharing your experience.
ten years ago i had to send me edge back to sti and response and service was awesome. they paid for shipping and received it back within a week
People wanna act like CZs are more reliable or less finicky but I'm over here on the 3rd trigger return spring and my 2nd extractor + spring on an otherwise stock Shadow 2 OR with less than 10k rds on it. Plus I had to polish the chamber/feed ramps just to get it to extract properly and stop breaking extractors.
CZs are more reliable*
*other than the Shadow 2
Then send it in on warranty. Did you single load through the ejection port a few times?
Cleaned behind the extractor in those 10k?
Trs are a known issue, but every 3k is quite early.
Buying a staccato a few years ago was not like buying one today. Popularity has grown immensely therefore, production has ramped up quality control has gone down a little bit. I’ve seen these very common problems quite a bit now nowadays it does seem like they give the
Xc a little more attention on the quality control side.
I have an XC that has already been back once and they never fixed it. I’ve been really frustrated with the Staccato XC gun and ended up buying an Atlas Athena, which has been great. Staccato either cannot or unwilling to fix my gun. I’m not happy with the customer service I have received to this point.
Well, what was the issue?
I love drama. Hence why I love these videos and eating lunch with the boys after a match
“I love chatting with the guys always a good time” at the end. I don’t believe you sir. 😂 But did he clean the gun? Did he know he could buy another slide stop? 😂
Poor guy. I agree it’s got a defect but it probably has more rounds on it that most shooters shoot in a year or two. I appreciate you offering high volume testing and feedback.
It’s funny guys talk about not trusting a Service pistol like a Glock without like 2,000-4,000. I’m like “So you want to buy that Glock a few more times in ammunition before you trust it?”. I appreciate your patience with us!
EDIT: Also, if Staccato will fix it let them. These videos are all shot in various rentals (hotels, airbnb’s, different houses). Ben doesn’t seem like he has the time to pick up hobby gun smithing. Which is great because it reviews the company as well!
I had a new G19 completely stopped on me at less than 400 rounds. The striker spring cups had excess plastic on the sides from molding process, the striker bound up in the striker sleeve and it stopped. I just replaced the spring cups and striker sleeve but contacted Glock to tell them about the issue and gave them the SN in case other issues with those parts came up. They immediately offered me sending it back for evaluation and repair.
Have you sent them pictures of the cups?
Staccato is not a sports car . Why does everyone say that ?- they don’t even say that by them self. They are a over priced duty gun that is under spunged and can’t handle ammo that you should want to use in duty instead of the low load match ammo. In duty you want stopping power. But they seem at least have a good customer service.
High performance marketing!!!! Wouldn’t run Dr Pepper in your Ferrari
People who have bad experiences and people who have good experiences are probably all telling the truth. Sometimes you get a different service rep and sometimes they're in a bad mood.
In 2017, Trijicon refused to warranty my RMR after four weeks of waiting when I broke the lens (they comped the repair after I told them to send it back as is). A few years later, they replaced that RMR with a brand-new Type 2 within a week when the buttons flew off.
So a lot of comments were pointing out the Stacatto is not as durable or reliable as a Glock. Are their actually people that didn't know that?
If you are shipping it back have them put the sightmark on.
Did they mention what the actual slide stop issue was or if other staccato models were effected?
All the comments referring to the gun being dirty the 2011 can run dirty as long as it’s lubed as long as this gun is wet you can fire thousands of rounds without cleaning it
Great video thanks man!
Ben, can't help but wonder if the lockback issue is to to the worn/weakened magazine springs you mentioned. Have you checked to see if it works better with your new, unused magazines? Thanks as always for the great content (training or trolling appreciated equally.)
Someone get Ben a happy meal
Memes, the dna of the soul
The demand for a tight moa accuracy with highly reliable mechanics and functioning parts is what Delta has been trying to get with their guns. The car analogy is rally cars that will attack a course with obstacles, dips, gravels and dirt at maximum speed with the most efficient maintnaince. Versus street or luxury cars that breaks when driving over a single curb.
lmfao these videos are the best.
Ben better watch his tongue throwing shade at my beloved Bul
So did the stop physically wear out or the spring? Kind of a simple part to fail isnt it?
He likes Miatas and someone else does his laundry. Total Alpha energy
Ben is a sigma
Ben Stoeger, Focus Tripp, and Lemon 26 Grenade. The Mount Rushmore of gun company trolling.
I just buy Zev slides. Getting Glocks at vlue label prices, plus the price of a Zev slide, it comes to about the price everyone else pays for there MOS. Maybe direct mount isn't measurably better, but it makes me feel better lol
Any chance they could have issued a voluntary recall? This is a weapon marketed to protect life and yet Staccato just sat and waited for people to call in complaining about a known issue. I wouldn’t have thought less of Staccato as a brand if they came forward saying they had a bad run of slide stops.
Sounds like Staccato has good customer service.
Hi Ben! Could you do a comparison video on the DWX and the Staccato P?
Send him the dwx
Or DWX C
Ben, I know you've talked about it before but can you touch on not riding the trigger reset in a little more depth? in your 'low recoil ammo in a low recoil gun' short on IG it looks like you're riding the reset but can't tell for sure. thanks!
I’m not and I don’t
The idea is to get your finger off the trigger and ready to fire again basically as soon as it breaks. This approach aligns much better with trigger control at speed; you will actually have more consistent presses when you put the wheel in your own hands. You want to set the pace of firing, not the gun. This will naturally allow you to split based on vision and nothing else.
I love this! Hilarious!
What gets me about your comments about 2011 mags is why the hell did it take until last year for companies to sell versions that take alternate mags like the OA 2311 or Platypus.
Like why isn't there a 20yo design using a Beretta 92 mag?
My team asked beretta to make the 92x back in 95’.
Remoil boyz assemble!
The only people that would be extremely mad about it is if they put all their money into one gun and by sending it off, they don’t have another gun to carry or train with. Why else would you put that much importance on one gun. You send it back they fix it. You get it back better than new: problem solved.
CZ themselves would only sell me an extractor if I sent it to them to install it. Otherwise they would not send out any of what they had on the shelves when I had two guns in need of them.
What? I bought one a few months ago. Installed it myself.
@@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw They literally sent me to CajunGW to buy one.
this is why i stopped buying cz's.
It seems like they have a parts availability issue. I remember when I had a discontinued suppresor ready cz P01. The front sight tritium went out, so they took my gun and sent me a brand new one they had lying around 😅.
If this was a Glock duty pistol, would you be having this problem?
Glocks have given people tard'd expectations
I’m pretty sure that’s where all this “a dirty gun should function” nonsense is coming from.
In other words, I bought a Glock so I don’t have to clean anything.
@@halbrittidk dude my 2011s run fine dirty and I don’t clean mags
@@HaydenLane9mm I've got >10k rounds through my 34 and I don't remember ever actually cleaning it. I've certainly never cleaned a mag.
Probably I wiped off some of the shmoo when I was working on it, but otherwise, nope.
Lube? Also nope.
I'm a Glocker. I have a staccato P and I'm still a Glocker. There's no competition in so many ways. Glock breaks, you fix without having to think about a Smith. 2011 break...now you need a Smith. You do the math
Or...you learn how to replace parts and fit them 😂
@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw if I'm spending $5,000 for a Staccatto I wouldn't want to build and fit my own parts. That's what I pay Staccatto for.
Your point fundamentally doesn't make sense.
On the flip side, the Glock people like them because they're easy to fix and not have to worry sending them off to a gunsmith. I know because I'm one of them
@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw Tried that, it cost me a decent chunk of change, and I would likely have to invest hundreds into another gun to make sure that I'm not going to fuck things up again in the future.
Glock works, and if it doesn't, it's an easy fix. This is the general rule for guns in that segment.
Very true
Ben, have you fully transitioned over to using 2011s for classes/ competition or do you use a modern polymer frame striker fired 9mm every now and then? What made you shift to a 2011 in the first place? Do you ever think of using a plastic fantastic (Glock, M&P, etc) again because of the parts availability? You put a lot of rounds through all of your guns and that is one advantage to shooting guns of that nature- parts availability and sheer reliability though they can be uninteresting. Separately, when do you think you would replace the barrel on the staccatos? What’s that process like in terms of sourcing parts from a smaller manufacturer? Best.
Clearly you don’t watch his channel.
I love all the comments about how you don’t maintain the gun, when Remington is probably going to make you Rem Oil Salesman of the year 😂. All the guns should need is a wipe down and lube on occasion with the very infrequent full breakdown and clean.
Poor Ben, starting to realize why as you get popular on social medias these creators stop reading comments
Jtt barrel
The platform has a ton of parts. That’s my hesitation and probably why I’ll never own it.
Who tf is hand fitting a damn slide stop 😂
It is irritating to send a gun back but if it is that upsetting to you, you need to get more guns.
Ben not doing his own laundry so on brand, I imagine he's got a huge pile of shirts that he gets for free get the new one and where is it. 😂😂
That being said, doing laundry is annoying, folding clothes is tedious
I suspect these comment reply videos are going to get fewer and farther in between. By the end of this one I think he was more annoyed than he was when he had to send the gun back.
*Nuh uh!*
it's funny how whenever 1911s or 2011s are mentioned every hammer-fired boomer comes out of the woodwork to give their antiquated opinion about what is best practice. the guys saying you have to clean these guns religiously are as bad as the sig nerds who say you're bad at maintenance when your carbon steel 365 or 320 rusts just from being looked at.
And?
DIRECT MOUNT GANG GANG >:(
Fr tho, I didn't get my G17 milled for a few years even though I wanted one because of the wait time. I didn't want to be without my carry gun for what I thought would be like, at least a month. Wager machine works had my slide back to me in a week and a half tho when I did decided after buying a cheap optic ready slide and figuring out that A aftermarket slides suck and B it was worth the 85 + 15sh to have my slide cut to a higher degree with recoil bosses than some cheap ebay slide lol. MOS isn't an option since I'm in CA and those models are not on the roster otherwise... would've got that in the first place and just run the same buis's I do rn if I was worried about the plate failing, which like, screws fail anyways so who gives a shit.
I’m in exactly the same boat. With my 19, 17, and 34. Gen 3 only because I’m in California. Discovered that aftermarket slides are shit, so I got cheap OEM slides off eBay and had them milled. Direct mount FTW.
And if I want irons, I just swap back to the original slide.
Running Dirty.😅
Finally someone calls out the "clean and lube" crowd when there's malfunctions. They are just as bad as the "just needs 500 rounds to break-in" crowd. Big red flag that person doesn't know shit. Those are parts or tolerance issues. Also those people have never owned or shot a true gunsmith built tight tolerance guns that actually need break-in.
I dont like the fact I cant even get a spare extractor from Staccato unless its a warranty issue.
LoL I can rebuild my Glocks twice each with all the spare parts I have.
They do it for free and it’s good for 50,000 rounds, which you won’t shoot in a lifetime.
The extractor needs to be fitted to the gun.
@@Rubelessblah blah blah
Had one break, gun down for the week end over an extractor.
I know all about fitting an extractor.
Simple stuff.
Ordered an extractor from another mfg.
Problem solvee.
Staccato mag springs are still garbage. Go with the gen 3 mags but replace the springs with atlas extra power springs
Trust them to build it but, turns out they screwed it up while building it initially. That is the funny irony of it. Even tho it’s not a big issue that ruins the gun. It’s still funny.
clearly you have people that watch your videos that never shoot more then 200 rounds a year! HAHAHAH
Ben if you hate sending your guns like we all hate sending them just get them to send you a stop and they have it documented that you had a problem so not sure why you would basically refuse to try that no offense to you of course!
Not that easy
What's not that easy ?
It's a fitted part, not a drop in.
@@onpsxmember Yes and no I've only had to take the file to one or two out of about ten but those were 1911's not sure on the staccato's. You would think he knows a lot of people that could fit that for him in about ten minutes versus taking the risk of something going wrong with shipping doesn't make any sense to me it's not the barrel it's a slide stop !
@@loupuleff571
But why would he pay someone that can't know the intricacies as well as those that build them to do a job he gets for free within warranty? Shipping should be insured.
P226 MK25 is better than a staccato
My good sir, why do you do this to yourself? These comments and questions are horrendous. lol
Brainless comments are fun right?
Staccato so overrated
So is your ruger security 9.
I stopped changing the oil in my own car because if I screw something up, I have to pay for it. If the dealer or mechanic screws something up they have to pay for it.
how can you mess up an oil change. I used to drive 30K a year and did my own for years. The correct answer is the cost for the oil/filter is not much diff. from paying for it. if you ever plan to to go rural, you'd better lose the silver-spoon complex and learn how to change your own diapers.
@@Jay-d3task your mom who changed your diapers.
Everyone: OMG BEN YOU’RE A SHOOTING GOD!
Also everyone when Ben’s gun doesn’t work: …well Ben, you are an absolute troglodyte who is reckless and knows nothing 🤷
Holy smokes how do you even read these comments they are painful to listen to
Why don’t they just send a new stop to try first ??
Why don’t you watch the video?
@@BenStoeger187 sorry I jumped the gun no pun intended!
21 minute video complaining about having to send the gun back? Just send it back and be done with it…
Well that doesn’t create engagement now does it?
pranka wants to create a "gun trainer" standards board akin to being a Union carpenter or a board certified doctor. So much for the free market. For decades we never needed to militarize the police, and now prankster pranka wants to make a profit while training the standing army who will obediently crush citizens who revolt to having their country flooded with "brownies" (just look at what occurred in England). Train Citizens hommie! I dont care about the staccadoo-doo. Give me a basic carbine all day. FWIW.
What are you yapping about
This reads like a dude who took nra pistol instructor 30 years ago and bores the gun store employees because he knows they're a captive audience
Yeah, I don't like anyone who only trains LE and not citizens.
See your doctor for a reevaluation of your prescription protocol
@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw yeah, pranka (xray alpha) has plenty of civilian classes as well. This guy with the original comment is a tard
Buying a staccato a few years ago was not like buying one today. Popularity has grown immensely therefore, production has ramped up quality control has gone down a little bit. I’ve seen these very common problems quite a bit now nowadays it does seem like they give the
Xc a little more attention on the quality control side.