I agree. The Barrow downs were terrifying. Just down the road from the east-farthing border if I recall and a stone’s throw from Fredager’s house in my mind. I loved that chapter
I think Tom is the something like the embodiment of the song of the ainur and middle earth itself. Powerful but neutral, not truly even having a will of his own, therefore unable to be corrupted or concerned with good or evil
Opinion post not specifically about Tolkien. I think of Tom as something I like to call a Primal Intent... something akin to an avatar of a greater being, in this case of Iluvitar themself, but less an embodiment of the greater being and more an embodiment of the intention of that greater being. This is not a theory specific to Tolkiens world, but one I have been considering for story telling and mythology at large. The greater the being from which the Primal Intents are birthed the greater thier inherent powers. In Tom's case he was created at the moment this world's trees and forests were first created and even before. He is the 'keeper' of all healthy things that are green and grow, a remnant of the sheer magnitude that is Iluvitar and the music they orchestrated. He is much the same as The Geen Man in our earthly mythology as a creature bent to the intentions of the spirit empowering them, if perhaps more outwardly obvious with the seemingly mercurial but cunningly adroit behaviors. They both would seem to be willful of their own right and through their own consciousness, but both also show these inescapable responsibilities they are beholden to that are clearly the design of someone else. Other examples of primal intents are everywhere in stories, sometimes with names for specific types of them. Some native people have the idea of Elementals, protective entities tied to specific locations created by the intent of whole tribes focused through ritual. I bring this up because there are very often in myth and fantasy these beings that sit just beyond the edge of full explanation, but have very clear connections to a source/creator and immutable purpose, and I think we need a way to catagorize these things that is respectful of the mystery of how exactly they came to be and allow us to discuss them collectively as a sort of loose archetype.
There is definitely a parallel to his humming/song having power and the creation of the world having been done through song. Maybe he does have a relationship with the Valar in some way. My belief is that he was simply around early enough to hear the music of the Valar during the creation. Definitely an interesting character.
I like the tale very much and enjoy listening to your voice. But I don't understand why we are constantly shown pictures of Gandalf or other rather wizard-like folks instead of Tom Bombadil.
"beware because there will exist a power in the forests whose anger your children will arouae at their peril. There shall be the Shepherds of the Trees!'" TOM WAS THE SHEPHERD OF THE TREES, A MAIA LIKE MELIAN WHO ROMANCED AN ELF, GOLDBERRY! HE WAS THE SHEPHERD OF THE ENTS AND HUORNS!
It's pretty clear that Tom is a thematic Maia, the spirit of the Old Forest personified. He speaks of when the Old Forest stretched far beyond its third age bounds, and how inside the Old Forest, none is a match for him, who is the Master there. He is likely one of the chief servants of Yavanna, and has been in the Old Forst since it first sprouted back when the stars were new.
@@Deathbynoob93 …reverberating melodies, and endless overtones, echoing infinitely in space, and endlessly through time, vibrations waxing and waning along with newly formed chords, unintentional, but pure and good, find a seemingly new song, in a different place, and all through time, the spirit of Tom Bombadil was formed at that very spot to hear, and to sing. And he will continue to sing the echoes and reverberations of the songs. He keeps them alive, and he allows them to grow. Tom Bombadil was there to here the first music, as the very first music was to have him dance and sing its tune. 🎶✨
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I so wish they would have put Tom And the Barrow Downs in the movie. Scariest place in the whole book to me
I agree. The Barrow downs were terrifying. Just down the road from the east-farthing border if I recall and a stone’s throw from Fredager’s house in my mind. I loved that chapter
so powerful they couldnt even put him in a movie
I think Tom is the something like the embodiment of the song of the ainur and middle earth itself. Powerful but neutral, not truly even having a will of his own, therefore unable to be corrupted or concerned with good or evil
Tom Bambadil has always interested me, seems like the most mysterious lotr character!
Opinion post not specifically about Tolkien.
I think of Tom as something I like to call a Primal Intent... something akin to an avatar of a greater being, in this case of Iluvitar themself, but less an embodiment of the greater being and more an embodiment of the intention of that greater being. This is not a theory specific to Tolkiens world, but one I have been considering for story telling and mythology at large.
The greater the being from which the Primal Intents are birthed the greater thier inherent powers. In Tom's case he was created at the moment this world's trees and forests were first created and even before. He is the 'keeper' of all healthy things that are green and grow, a remnant of the sheer magnitude that is Iluvitar and the music they orchestrated.
He is much the same as The Geen Man in our earthly mythology as a creature bent to the intentions of the spirit empowering them, if perhaps more outwardly obvious with the seemingly mercurial but cunningly adroit behaviors. They both would seem to be willful of their own right and through their own consciousness, but both also show these inescapable responsibilities they are beholden to that are clearly the design of someone else.
Other examples of primal intents are everywhere in stories, sometimes with names for specific types of them. Some native people have the idea of Elementals, protective entities tied to specific locations created by the intent of whole tribes focused through ritual.
I bring this up because there are very often in myth and fantasy these beings that sit just beyond the edge of full explanation, but have very clear connections to a source/creator and immutable purpose, and I think we need a way to catagorize these things that is respectful of the mystery of how exactly they came to be and allow us to discuss them collectively as a sort of loose archetype.
Ah, this is a fanfiction. Not bad. I like the expansion of who Tom was. He and Treebeard are my favorite characters.
Tom is Tolkien ! Even Christopher Tolkien hinted at this !
That rings true to me , feels right .
Tolkien wrote himself into his work. Tom is Tolkien's character name.
I thought Tolkien identified most with Faramir.
I always felt like Tom was the Earthly embodiment of Eru.
Like his representation on the world he created.
Rings true to me .
There is definitely a parallel to his humming/song having power and the creation of the world having been done through song. Maybe he does have a relationship with the Valar in some way. My belief is that he was simply around early enough to hear the music of the Valar during the creation. Definitely an interesting character.
Tom Bombadil is Eru Ilúvatar
maybe!
Doubtful. Gandolf told the Hobbits that if Sauron triumphed over ME, Tom would fall eventually even if he was the last to do so.
Tom's power does nor end at the border. He just doesn't choose to pass borders he created.
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"...HASH!..."
First it was weird breathing noises, now the AI voices are demanding old-timey drugs.
I like the tale very much and enjoy listening to your voice. But I don't understand why we are constantly shown pictures of Gandalf or other rather wizard-like folks instead of Tom Bombadil.
Because the art is created and selected by AI.
It's called AI. And i f*cking hate it 🤬
"beware because there will exist a power in the forests whose anger your children will arouae at their peril. There shall be the Shepherds of the Trees!'"
TOM WAS THE SHEPHERD OF THE TREES, A MAIA LIKE MELIAN WHO ROMANCED AN ELF, GOLDBERRY! HE WAS THE SHEPHERD OF THE ENTS AND HUORNS!
I don't believe Tom is an ainur. I believe he is something else. He was already alive before the ainur arrived.
So Tom is an elven Gandalf?
He is Tolkien Jesus.
I like that idea.
It's pretty clear that Tom is a thematic Maia, the spirit of the Old Forest personified. He speaks of when the Old Forest stretched far beyond its third age bounds, and how inside the Old Forest, none is a match for him, who is the Master there. He is likely one of the chief servants of Yavanna, and has been in the Old Forst since it first sprouted back when the stars were new.
I think he is the remnants of the unused portions of the song itself coalescing into a being called Tom
The singing is a big clue, I thought.
@@Deathbynoob93 …reverberating melodies, and endless overtones, echoing infinitely in space, and endlessly through time, vibrations waxing and waning along with newly formed chords, unintentional, but pure and good, find a seemingly new song, in a different place, and all through time, the spirit of Tom Bombadil was formed at that very spot to hear, and to sing. And he will continue to sing the echoes and reverberations of the songs. He keeps them alive, and he allows them to grow. Tom Bombadil was there to here the first music, as the very first music was to have him dance and sing its tune. 🎶✨
@@Deathbynoob93I like that idea!
We've got to stop this ai crap.
The crusades happened. Lots of shit happened. Maybe get off your high horse and try to work with me....your holiness.
I have tried very hard to work with you.