BTW, fully agree with your China comments. It's simply impossible to avoid consumer products that contain at least components from China, so no point in boasting about a refusal to buy from China. That's simply ignorant. Finally, Chinese products are not like Chinese products from 20 or 30 years ago any more, they are very often really good.
They can always do the cutting edge, state-of-the art products but the distributors/retailers in your country order cheap stuff from them to sell it to you, cheap so that you won't have any compunction to buy them. These cheap stuff break down easily so you keep buying for replacements, you keep buying (planned obsolescence) - the more profit for your canadian companies. Bottomline is you get what you pay for. I've read a lot of where the chinese counterpart say to the foreigner partner that for a dollar or few more per unit, they could produce a much better product but the foreigner partner said NO. As of now, the chinese actually lead in 37 out of 44 new and critical technology. As you said, China is not the China of 20 years ago.
@@rap3208 I have visited my friend's clothing factory in Zhangjiagang. He mentioned that European clothing companies are willing to pay 10 yuan for a lv.10 quality product(e.g.), whereas North American clothing companies are only willing to pay 2-5 yuan... Their factory can collaborate with factories along the entire street, ranging from buttons to zippers, from various dyes to fabrics, from manual production to the most advanced 3D weaving machines, laser cutting. They have enough production system needed to produce products of lv.20 quality .
@@CanadianCuttingEdge Thank you. You are right and many of us are pushing as hard to make things better at home. Part of it starts by continually asking everyone (starting by our leaders and legislators) whether this current short-sighted, "shareholder profits-over-every-other-concern model" is still preferable to one where different stakeholders (employees, companies, government, towns/regions) have a say in the economy. Whether the current near monopolies in many (most?) industries/sectors favors innovation and lower prices or whether the opposite is true?
We do, in fact we have elections every 4 years so that people can have their say. There are protests, activists and no it's not perfect, but we always try to improve and sometimes we get it wrong. But we don't accept the actions that the Chinese leadership has taken and the world will decide what it's willing to put up with. MY issue with Made in China, is the disregard to the environment and resource management. It's not every factory that mistreats its employees, but it's enough that I'd rather take my business elsewhere. I really hope the people of China rise up against their Gov't and treat ALL their citizens with dignity and respect. China can't keep dodging this, times up!
@@mrmj2397 Agree. My issue is that our makers are competing against many forms of subsidies to Chinese manufacturers, not only in the form of subsidies but also by preferential shipping and tax treatment when they are allowed to use loopholes such as the "de minimis rule" which exempts their shipments from tax as well as customs screening. Chinese steel is subsidized by their government and I bet most other materials made for export are subsidized too. They've done this in one industry after another to support their own brands until they are competitive and then until they wipe out the competition. The latest industry they plan to conquer is the EV market.
@gaberoo9099 ugh... ya I know, but change is already happening. New factories in Mexico, India, Thailand etc. And they will come with their own issues I'm sure. But I think it will solve more than it creates at the end of the day. Perhaps it's impractical to do ALL the manufacturing here? But companies could do design, layouts etc. Then just have all the parts made, say in Mexico? Then, our Canadian Manufacturer here, has staff that receives, assembles, QC's the product, sharpening or even handles and colour ways? Might not be ideal, will take the right connections and a bit of money and risk? At least, from start to finish, that product never left N. America, is made from the earth that built this continent .... sorry I was having a Patriatic attack there ... I'm okay now. But ya, if the shift heads next door would quit f*king around, we get the Turd out of the punch bowl. We might just come out alright in a decade er so?? Optimistic, I know ... lol
Buck has its USA factory and a factory for some of their knives in China. I bought a USA made stockman and a Chinese made stockman. The Chinese stockman is superior in every facet of being to the USA made knife and at half the price. I was stunned. Some Chinese knives are garbage but they have lot of great quality knives. for those of you that refuse to buy knives that are made in China, you are missing out on a lot of great knives.
I see the same thing. Here in Canada we have some BUCK branded knives that are made in China but made specifically for Canada's biggest sporting goods retailer ONLY and most of those are junk. Seems every brand that has been around for as long as Buck has, has a wide spectrum of quality these days with no consistent link to where the items were assembled.
You get what you paid for, don't expect to get an extraordinary product if you only pay pennies. What's interesting about being made in China is that no matter how low your budget is, there is always a product, with corresponding quality .
Absolutely. Most if the luxury brands, l phones and electric appliances and electronics are made in China. Proof that China can produce a full range of products from low quality to top notch. It is just a matter of what you are willing to pay for them. You can’t expect quality when you expect to pay too little.
Man, what a crappy situation. Sorry to hear that is happening. Really glad you're going to keep up with the channel. It would be a shame to have your voice disappear. Also appreciated the nuanced discussion on Chinese products. Well done! Tell Bandit the Cat I says "Hi"👍😁
What a ridiculous situation, I'm sorry to hear you're getting that sort of trouble from the non-profit that's meant to be helping you. I'm glad to hear that you intend to keep going with the channel, at the very least I hope it can keep being something worthwhile to do with your time. I'll keep watching your content - it's been very good so far. Perhaps if it's going to be difficult to get new products in for review, you can look at pivoting to more information/tutorial type content like your CCEU content. More information about sharpening, maintenance, or even tips and tricks for assembly and disassembly could be useful for your viewership, and probably a good project for keeping busy!
I'm on disability myself for worsening neuropathy, patellar laxity and plantar fasciitis. If you have a legitimate, disabling health issue like me and you, just remember you're not in the wrong for collecting a check. Never let anyone look down on you. Enjoyed your channel, God bless ya. Edit: the problem with living on disability is that everyone who is ignorant to the reality of our situations. They think that we have it made I.E. "free housing, free money, free everything" But the truth is it's not free. We still have to pay rent, and in some housing, utilities, we live off very little (unless you're a hustler having illegitimate kid after kid) and because the Govt "owns us" if we do go to work and try to be self-sufficient and get ahead in life, we just end up having to give the money back.
There will always be those who judge a disabled person who still has all their body parts as disingenuous - those people are best simply ignored, no matter how hard that is do. One of the worst parts is that it's counter productive (from the perspective of the insurance companies and gov) to claw back every penny a disabled person earns because the the better off a person is the less support they need, but it comes (generally) as slow growth process, but if they cut everything off then there is no space for growth to happen
You say how China pays it's workers is bad. Well they have more middle class workers than Canada and USA combined, and, they have more savings in a bank. And China has helped lift 800,000,000 people out of abject poverty. The rest of your show is up to date. I hit the like.
Thanks. Communist governments are one of the root causes for abject poverty of their citizens in the first place, so I won't give them any applause for any recent improvements. To be fair, I also blame Democratic governments as one of the root causes for abject poverty in their own countries too. It's what governments tend to do very well.
I am really sorry to hear about your financial situation. I am guilty of not commenting enough on your videos but I've been watching a while. I hope you continue to make videos for your own enjoyment, in whatever form that takes. As far as the Made in China goes ... I know a lot of knife people who claim to only buy USA made. I think part of my frustration is the quality. They give US knife makers a huge pass on quality control (Uneven blade grinds, bad centering, lock failure, etc) while claiming Chinese products are inferior. Being USA made, or Italian, or German, etc., doesn't mean an inherent rise in quality. Thank you for all you do
THANKS. You are not the only one to have commented about how Made in USA does not inherently mean good quality. Any company in any country can make junk and they can make good stuff, it just depends on what they want to make (usually profits with little regard to customers).
What sad news. I have always enjoyed your reviews. I have one knife from We, a fair number of Civivis, some CJRBs, and some Kershaws, too. One liner lock, C Beluga came with a very weak lockup. WMK offered a return on it. I never got around to it and have been playing with it from time to time and it is improving. All of these are very good knives. I recently ordered an upgraded swordfish.
"Harley, the world’s largest manufacturer of heavyweight motorcycles, doesn’t disclose where most of the parts are sourced, but industry sources say the company gets them from the U.S., Japan, Italy, Mexico, China, Australia and other countries. For years, Milwaukee-based Harley has used Showa-brand suspension components from Japan. Brake and clutch parts have come from Italy, wheels from Australia and electronics from across Asia." 😁
It's not unexpected that insurance companies care only for their financial bottom line. I had come to believe that this specific not-for-profit company had more generous policies than the average insurance business.
Typical Insurance Company response. When you don't need them, they're all over you grabing your monthly payments. Something happens and they do everything and come up with every excuse to reneg on a policy. Between them, Canadian banks and the current Canadian government it's no wonder the average Canadian is ruined. Something needs to change sooner than later in this country.
Sorry to hear your saturation, that's really frustrating you have to shut down the CCE as a business to fight with the system, please let us know if there is anyway we can help, I think the major of youtuber who enjoy your videos will certainly happy to assist, all the best.
I’m sorry that your health has caused you limited quality of life and now something like TH-cam, that has bought you some happiness has now come against you. I think China is making great stuff and most of my stuff comes from there because it is affordable. Your channel has been of value to me because of this. The only issue I have with Chinese made is not knowing for sure what steel they are using this drives me crazy but they are getting better with this and now brands like Eathengrow, Petrified Fish, Harnds, Huangfu and quite a few others now seem to advertise the correct steel. I also think 8cr13mov is a decent budget steel. I hope there is a way forward for you in all this.
Thanks Michael. The steel question is a big one. I was very happy a few years ago to see the small database that Lee from @LuvThemKnives had started where blades steel was tested and verified. I stopped reviewing Eafengrow knives because they usually were made with different steels than they claimed. I cannot give you a complete list here but Petrified Fish and Harnds (and MOST others) have been quite honest in this regard.
So sorry to hear about your Pension/Benefits issue. I'm on a Pension and all that as well. And I'm in my own kind of pain for many years so I certainly sympathize with your plight. I hope things pan out in your favor and they don't demand too much from you. I well understand you getting CCE up and running. It gives you something to do and takes away the depression of just sitting around. You get motivated about doing something and you feel like you are worth something. I know the feeling. I just mess about in my shop for the same relief. I support everything you said about Chinese Knives/Products. I have a lot of Chinese made knives. Some are of poorer quality. But some are absolutely spectacular. We all rely on and live with Chinese products that fill our homes. And over the years their products have improved in quality. I always enjoy and learn from your videos. I hope you are able to continue. Stay strong with your health and benefits challenges. All The Best to you Jake.
Hi Jake. I'm really sorry about this trouble then insurance is giving you. This is so nonsensical and against the spirit of our time. But that's what insurances seem to be like. I'm so grateful that you want to keep your awesome channel alive despite this. If we in the community can help in any way, please let it be known. definitely, you'll keep a faithful channel follower in me.
Jake, so sorry you have to deal with this mess. Sounds like you've had to overcome much adversity these past few years, and I'm confident that you will overcome this. You are a resourceful individual. Looking forward to what happens next in your knife journey!
I hope that you don't completely go away..love the channel. I hope and pray that you do well and are blessed going forward.kerp your head up..stay strong my friend..!!
Too bad, Jake. I have enjoyed your videos. Right now, China owns the knife market. They can make a better version of a Chris Reeve knife - with better action - for $40. Shipped.
Samsung parts are made in China... Just bcos it says made in Vietnam its not made in China. Vietnam or India or Korea they don't have all the supply chains for those components that's just the facts.
I think you misunderstood me, I wasn't saying that Samsung is made with non-Chinese parts, in fact I was saying that it was merely not assembled in China. I said, if you have a device of any sort with electronics in it then it is almost a sure thing that those parts were made in China. (Of course, there is way more than just electronics made in China(.
I would suggest a knife with a "scandi" grind. Search for MORA knives or Hultafors. Scandi grind knives are the top choice for camping and bushcraft type tasks. The 2 main ones that I suggest if you want to save the most $: - Mora Craftline Series (decent stainless steel) - Hultafors OK1 or OK4 (good carbon steel with coated blade) For camping food prep consider a Cold Steel Roach Belly (or bring a kitchen knife from home).
Anyone who says China is junk are just highly ignorant and uninformed and quiet frankly have no idea what they are talking about. I dare someone on here to find me a better OTF than a Maxace Neptune for $108. Hell, my Maxace Mamba is very difficult to beat. WE knives. Just to name a few. China has some amazing knives being made there.
Once Kizer entered the knife market, then we started seeing some well made Chinese knives. And these days the value for your dollar is incredible if you know what to look for. This is why we need CCE to weed through them all. There still lot of made in China garbage out there but, those are mostly imported by Gerber & Kershaw :). Then there are the flea market and gas station knives.
I have not missed the reality that many of the brands that were at one time clearly American brands are now making some of the worst knives on the market. The brands are not run by the original founders (or their descendants) of the companies, and most have been sold various times. Brands like Shrade, Kershaw, Gerber, and many more are selling truly awful knives in their lowest price ranges. Thankfully those brands seem to be seeing the need to make some better stuff too, but only VERY rarely in the sub $100USD price range.
I'm sorry for your situation with disability. I hope this gets better for you. I greatly appreciate your help reviewing budget knives with a thorough and honest approach. With regards to the China issue,well...that's a complex topic. Many of us would like to have options other than "made in China" but there are not that many out there. No matter how many letters one may write to manufacturers, profits drive stock prices and that dictates where/how products are made. China (and many other countries) have many ways of supporting their manufacturing sectors so that our own manufacturers have to contend with all of these aids given to Chinese producers (it is not a level playing field). Finance has sucked the air out of our US economy for other sectors such as manufacturing. Shareholder uber alles has been the rallying cry of the likes of Milton Friedman's free traders and seeking that last penny of profit takes precedence over long term investments in R&D, manufacturing, etc. Tax breaks to corporations are not invested in producing goods/services but rather stock buybacks. We've lost appreciation for what it is to make things and forget that the process of manufacturing itself involves creativity. China sees itself in a competition with the rest of the world (particularly the US) and is acting that way (with an unprecedented military buildup and aggressive tactics in the south china sea). To say that "made in China" has no cost to the rest of the world is, well, disingenuous. US is not the only country that wants to avoid a second "China shock" and many countries are acting to protect their own industries from the onslaught of heavily subsidized Chinese products, particularly electric vehicles. If only we had to worry about knives made in China, that would not be a big deal; it's a totally different matter when the computer chips that operate your weapon systems are made there (as well as many medicines, personal protective equipment such as masks, etc).
Thanks for that. The made in China issue is definitely much more complex than I could cover in a TH-cam video. You make many great points that I didn't cover.
My current EDC is a Gerber Mansfield slip joint. Fit and finish is good with a very solid half stop. 3 1/4 inch D2 steel drop point with a Scandi grind. Shaving sharp right out of the box. I'm really happy with it. Made in China. I paid $58 CDN for it and if made in the US it likely would be $90 or more. I have a little Gerber US1 lockback made in the states. 2 1/2 inch 420HC steel blade. It retails for $31 US on the Gerber site I can deflect the blade over 1/8 inch with just a little pressure. As you say, every country makes great products and every country makes duds. My US made Buck 119 Special is a fantastic knife made even more so by the fact that I paid less than $60 CDN for it on sale at Canadian Tire a few years ago. Many people don't seem to realize that a lot of the big name knife companies outsource a lot of production to China. The knives are still designed domestically and QC is usually very tight. I won't try and speak to Chinese made knives from Chinese companies because I don't have any. You take care Jake. I have my fingers crossed that you'll get a break.
Yes, I look great on video but I only record when I am at my best. I have been on long term/permanent disability for about 10 years now - it really sucks when it happens at any age.
Hey Bandit and Jake Keep feeding the fire! Funny how some of those, I won't buy Chinese because of how workers are treated, people; how they are against labour unions and find the left wing'ers a bunch of dreamers. Also how can people not understand that socialism and communism are not the same. And that communism allows for cut throat capitalism? I hope that the pension issue gets resolved in a better than expected way. Do you have any way to get issue specific legal/financial advice? As of May 1st I will also be a pensionist. 😊
Thanks brother! Yes, I have access to resources that are helping me though this challenge, I appreciate the concern. I assume you are retiring. I wish you a most enjoyable time. I hope you find some productive hobby or volunteering or something to help keep you looking forward. I know too many men who just let their lives fall apart after retirement and end up depressed and become ill, I would hate that for you.
@@CanadianCuttingEdge for me it's an opportunity to get a life. It fell apart in '20. Had been hanging on, in a thin thread, for some years before that. I have plenty of hobbies - maybe too many. A house that I've been neglecting (the not so great depression that I came through). My pack of four dogs - the puppy that I've kept is a gem, she is one stubborn girl with a mind of her own, but also quick at learning (apart from where to pee and poop) 😆. And the old parents to care for.
When I am ready to do my next knife sale I will post about it here on my TH-cam channel with all the details. So keep watching. I will do my sale after I find out the exact amount of money I will have to raise, that might take a few weeks or maybe more.
It's sad that you have to go through that. If you were an illegal they would give you free money and all kinds of benefits. Prayers for you as you deal with this.
Right on Bro; I totally feel your pain. I am a working older Gent, that's disabled, too... So, I feel your pain. I do what I do for a lot of the same reasons as you. It's a fun Hobby that keeps me busy and out of the Bars... Because, of the tensions between China and Taiwan and the US, I have stopped purchasing a lot of Chinese Knife Products and reviewing them. But, it's not because I think their Junk. In the past, before the 2000's, most of the Chinese Knives were Junk and were often cheap fake Knock-Offs. Now, with Companies like CIVIVI, Kizer, CJRB, Artisan, WE, Reate, and other's, are making great Knives, now. Many don't know that China is the number one producer of Steel by a long shot. Great Video. :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)
Generally, products from China aren't of the highest quality. That's why I rely on your channel to watch your reviews, helping me identify which budget knives from China are worth considering. And am very sorry to hear for what’s been happening and wish you all the best Jake !
Thanks. The Chinese have been moving from making poor copies of western products to becoming a design and engineering powerhouse - they are not quite there yet. The worse side of the issue is that in the democracies of the west we are in the long slow process of degrading as design and engineering masters - I hope we interrupt and reverse this process ASAP.
Those ranting about China.. They need to step back and think.. Isn't it because China products are cheap that we can enjoy luxuries in life.. We can have what we need.. We can save a lot of money and allocate money to what we like. We don't need high quality of everything in our lives.. If everything is so expensive.. How to afford? Example.. I don't cook much.. Cheap kitchen knives is cool with me. Imagine I have to spend so much for knives.. Why bother?
😅I think that Americans get a bad impression of Chinese knives from the knives sold in gas stations and corner stores (those $10 to $20 knives). In Canada we don't have that problem as knives are generally not sold in such outlets. Canadians usually buy knives from large box/hardware stores, or from 3 or 4 large on line stores that sell quality knives (knives priced at $75 and up). Canadians probably see fewer cheap knives than our American brothers, and the result is Canadians have a better opinion of knives made in China. I know I do...😉👍
Gas station knives - oh man that is an important part of the discussion I missed altogether - probably because, as you said, we don't have a gas station knife culture in Canada, so I didn't remember to talk about it. I think you are 100% right, we experience much less of the junk knife market in stores here in Canada.
THANKS. I'll make it through this. But, the tax office is actually quite generous with people in my position, the whole problem is with my pension from the insurance company.
Thank for given me the word I've been searching for "immature"😂 Even our politicians had a awakening go from de-coupling to de-risking to call for normalization realizing how much we depand on China (Austrian already back to business with China), we're still threatening China with santions with Yelln trip!Granted we have more leverage than Australia or Europeans's economy rely more on trade plus we have huge consumers base and cultures! These people are ignorant in a sense they had little understanding of how capitalism work! Not that first world countries is not capable of producing products China produce! It just we're at a late stage capitalism and no longer cost effective, that's why even US compenies had to off-shored! China per capita GDP is stll only 1/4 of ($1300vs$80000) US even though many think their economy is biger than US because of 4 time populations! Remember we were the manufacturing power house like China today in the 50s&60s, Just as the Chinese lift the whole of Asia up given it size, we lift the rest of the West then! If China can become 1st world, they gonna have to outsourse like we do,I suspect already happening via Vietnam or African Nations in small scale! I don't know they want to follow our total capitalist ideology! That's the roots of China US conflicts! In socialist ideology government total support for industrial is seen as comm good (they are the one lower all these renewables energy products price let say 80-90% in astonishingly short time), in US is seen as unfair business practice! Profits should be all companies motives! My last point is in a "free world" as we dub, we're propagandize day and night by media and politicians and not reality we live in! If you want to reallt "kow", go watch a few of " Inside Chinese Business " channel(American doing business in China), then you might even understand more details what realities are!
The problem with Chinese manufacturing is regulatory. Health, safety (both worker safety and end user safety), and environmental standards are not what they are in the western world. It's even common to have fraudulent western standards body markings on products. They are capable of making things to a very high standard (though not the very highest), if they are properly compensated and there is quality control oversight. And of course garbage can come from anywhere in the world, but there is a higher percentage of toxic throwaway garbage from China. I gave found however, that with knives the situation seems better than average with Chinese-made products.
It turns out a lot of people got unsubscribed somehow. I found that a number of channels that I watch were suddenly out of my feed this year too. Thanks Tom. I just sent an update via my Patreon list, so check for an email from Patreon to your gmail address.
Thanks so much! I totally agree with you. WRITE YOUR MP, this is how our system works, did you know you can even write the Governor General and they will do birthday and aniversary personalized videos?! Plus the GG outranks the PM, so feel free to complain about the state of our Country right now. I think that's pretty neat though, Queen Victoria did the same thing for decades. I found your channel today because I was shopping for a new knife, the two I found were the CRKT bev edge and the CIVIVI mini praxis. I also enjoy Sheffield Ibberson knives, a lot of respect that they kept manufacturing in the UK, plus shipping is actually cheaper than from the US somehow?? Figure that one out. I wish you luck Sir, I will catch up on some of your videos, hopefully that helps some, I do love Canadian products when ever I can find them. Except the Artisan stuff, far too expensive for my taste. I am also, unfortunately on disability and I hate it, wish I could just go back to work, sounds razy right? I wish you all the best!
To be honest and truthful, China is mainly preoccupied with quantity over quality! In MY area of experience: Electronics, bikes and bike parts, clothes, shoes and yes... knives! Electronics are deficient, bikes and bike parts, close to worthless, clothes and shoes a very short life span and knives are not so bad but still vastly surpassed by knife makers all over the world like Japan, Taiwan (And yes Taiwan IS NOT part of China) Europe, Pakistan and the U.S.
Chinese companies are well known for their desire for quantity over quality, but I think most companies are these days. The clearest and best exceptions (well over 90% of the time) is small companies in Europe and North America with less than 100 employees and most especially small companies with less than a dozen employees - these are the places where top quality is most likely to be found.
I am so sorry that sucks you work your whole life pay into the system and then they screw you. There’s a lot to change in this world. I wish you well and again I am so sorry.
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Not buying something because it was made in country X is just plain jingoistic 99% of the time. People complaining about Chinese goods conveniently forget that most western companies moved their production to China to screw over the working class and increase their profit margins. Governments, both right wing and left wing let this happen over 4 decades now, not caring about the working class and the poor, just letting the rich get richer. Now suddenly they point to China and say that China is the enemy and start levying tariffs, and complain about the slave labor. These problems were rampant 30-40 years ago, so why did you let your companies maximize profits and screw over union workers? Communist China has been the enemy of the US and Nato since the 1950s - they sided with North Korea in the Korean war, they sided with Vietnam during the Vietnamese war, so regardless of which side was right or wrong, they were always the enemy, right? Did they stop being the enemy just because you could get richer? This is so goddamn Orwellian that I just find myself laughing and shaking my head - "...to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it..."
BTW, greetings from a fellow Albertan. For a change, TH-cam decided to recommend a Canadian channel. I mostly just get American recommendations and most of the time, buying those knives here is difficult lol
I am glad you found my Canadian channel. With knives as the main subject matter there are several Canadian channels but not many. The whole made in China (or anywhere outside of one's home country) issue is way more complex than I could share in this video and will be much more difficult to change than people generally understand. Thanks for sharing some of the historical persepctive.
Loved ones name patreon but you get the bulk of profit under the table, ;) no income limit then & you can pay any taxes they get from it & you don't get penalties from disability, just a thought. an undeclared gift in name to be ok legally.
@@CanadianCuttingEdge I'm sure we will when we can but that's definitely the way to get around them trying to screw you with taxes lots of gifts air quotes gifts and of course the barter is always a great way good luck I hope it works out & you can survive until this Insanity levels out, in however many years it takes...
Dude, your ill-informed and been lied to about China... go there and do your own investigation to see how they treat their people... for Merica all you have to do is walk the streets and subways of Manhattan or Kesington street in Philly to see how we treat our own people.
Based on human rights, work place conditions etc?? First of all, all working conditions in Asia are similar. You cannot use western standards, or what you think is morally right and compare. Look at you own backyard and see all those happy Ameriacn workers waiving at you. Also please research China contents from outside western media sources. Second of all, please tell people to compare apple to apple and orange to orange. You cannot compare Wal-Mart knives to Cutco or Wusthof. Don't expect of being cheap buying a $20 knife and get a Cutco quality. Compare knives that cost similar. And thirdly tell your customers or fans to start buying American made products and boycott Chinese products. And don't get me started on the immigrant farmers or immagrant construction workers.
You're right, made in China doesn't necessarily mean poor quality. I have lots of Ganzo and Kizer knives, I'm very happy with them, and your channel has certainly helped me in my purchasing decisions on a lot of those. That being said, I definitely do try to buy products made in not-China as much as possible. I buy a lot more tools than knives, I buy tools from the USA, the UK, Germany, Japan, France, Italy, Sweden, Spain, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and of course Taiwan, and all of those make me feel better than buying from China.
I also prefer to buy other products too. I bought my Samsung phone in part because it was not made in China, but the model I got ended up being one made in Vietman, another communist country. We live in a global economy but buying closer to home when possible and practical, is a choice I prefer.
My grand uncle once said Sony tv and crap, buy Telefunken. Then my uncle once said, Samsung tv are crap, buy Sony. Now i will be telling my nephew don't buy Hisense tv, buy Samsung. Guess what my son will tell his nephews?
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BTW, fully agree with your China comments. It's simply impossible to avoid consumer products that contain at least components from China, so no point in boasting about a refusal to buy from China. That's simply ignorant. Finally, Chinese products are not like Chinese products from 20 or 30 years ago any more, they are very often really good.
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They can always do the cutting edge, state-of-the art products but the distributors/retailers in your country order cheap stuff from them to sell it to you, cheap so that you won't have any compunction to buy them. These cheap stuff break down easily so you keep buying for replacements, you keep buying (planned obsolescence) - the more profit for your canadian companies. Bottomline is you get what you pay for. I've read a lot of where the chinese counterpart say to the foreigner partner that for a dollar or few more per unit, they could produce a much better product but the foreigner partner said NO.
As of now, the chinese actually lead in 37 out of 44 new and critical technology. As you said, China is not the China of 20 years ago.
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I have visited my friend's clothing factory in Zhangjiagang.
He mentioned that European clothing companies are willing to pay 10 yuan for a lv.10 quality product(e.g.), whereas North American clothing companies are only willing to pay 2-5 yuan...
Their factory can collaborate with factories along the entire street, ranging from buttons to zippers, from various dyes to fabrics, from manual production to the most advanced 3D weaving machines, laser cutting. They have enough production system needed to produce products of lv.20 quality .
Those who criticize China should reflect on the problems with their own country.
I think everyone should do more than just reflect on the issues in their homeland, they need to take actual steps towards making it better at home.
@@CanadianCuttingEdge Thank you. You are right and many of us are pushing as hard to make things better at home. Part of it starts by continually asking everyone (starting by our leaders and legislators) whether this current short-sighted, "shareholder profits-over-every-other-concern model" is still preferable to one where different stakeholders (employees, companies, government, towns/regions) have a say in the economy. Whether the current near monopolies in many (most?) industries/sectors favors innovation and lower prices or whether the opposite is true?
We do, in fact we have elections every 4 years so that people can have their say. There are protests, activists and no it's not perfect, but we always try to improve and sometimes we get it wrong. But we don't accept the actions that the Chinese leadership has taken and the world will decide what it's willing to put up with.
MY issue with Made in China, is the disregard to the environment and resource management. It's not every factory that mistreats its employees, but it's enough that I'd rather take my business elsewhere. I really hope the people of China rise up against their Gov't and treat ALL their citizens with dignity and respect.
China can't keep dodging this, times up!
@@mrmj2397 Agree. My issue is that our makers are competing against many forms of subsidies to Chinese manufacturers, not only in the form of subsidies but also by preferential shipping and tax treatment when they are allowed to use loopholes such as the "de minimis rule" which exempts their shipments from tax as well as customs screening. Chinese steel is subsidized by their government and I bet most other materials made for export are subsidized too. They've done this in one industry after another to support their own brands until they are competitive and then until they wipe out the competition. The latest industry they plan to conquer is the EV market.
@gaberoo9099 ugh... ya I know, but change is already happening. New factories in Mexico, India, Thailand etc. And they will come with their own issues I'm sure. But I think it will solve more than it creates at the end of the day. Perhaps it's impractical to do ALL the manufacturing here? But companies could do design, layouts etc. Then just have all the parts made, say in Mexico? Then, our Canadian Manufacturer here, has staff that receives, assembles, QC's the product, sharpening or even handles and colour ways?
Might not be ideal, will take the right connections and a bit of money and risk? At least, from start to finish, that product never left N. America, is made from the earth that built this continent .... sorry I was having a Patriatic attack there ... I'm okay now.
But ya, if the shift heads next door would quit f*king around, we get the Turd out of the punch bowl. We might just come out alright in a decade er so?? Optimistic, I know ... lol
My two adopted daughters were made in China…and they’re top notch!
The people of China (like every other nation I have learned much about) are AWESOME. It's the nations leaders that mess things up for everyone.
That's because of the top notch adoptive parents
@@CanadianCuttingEdge Chinese leaders deliver for the Chinese people. Western leaders serve the 0.1%.
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funny top notch Canuck parents produces native LGBGQ 99.99% of the time
@@CanadianCuttingEdge
nations leaders that mess things up Canadian ?
Buck has its USA factory and a factory for some of their knives in China. I bought a USA made stockman and a Chinese made stockman. The Chinese stockman is superior in every facet of being to the USA made knife and at half the price. I was stunned. Some Chinese knives are garbage but they have lot of great quality knives. for those of you that refuse to buy knives that are made in China, you are missing out on a lot of great knives.
Yup, like WE/Civvi, and Kizer, and Chinese Spyderco’s
I see the same thing. Here in Canada we have some BUCK branded knives that are made in China but made specifically for Canada's biggest sporting goods retailer ONLY and most of those are junk. Seems every brand that has been around for as long as Buck has, has a wide spectrum of quality these days with no consistent link to where the items were assembled.
You get what you paid for, don't expect to get an extraordinary product if you only pay pennies. What's interesting about being made in China is that no matter how low your budget is, there is always a product, with corresponding quality .
Absolutely. Most if the luxury brands, l phones and electric appliances and electronics are made in China. Proof that China can produce a full range of products from low quality to top notch. It is just a matter of what you are willing to pay for them. You can’t expect quality when you expect to pay too little.
That "you get what you pay for" principle is clearly based in truth, but it's not an absolute unfortunately.
Man, what a crappy situation. Sorry to hear that is happening. Really glad you're going to keep up with the channel. It would be a shame to have your voice disappear.
Also appreciated the nuanced discussion on Chinese products. Well done!
Tell Bandit the Cat I says "Hi"👍😁
Thanks Gideon!!
What a ridiculous situation, I'm sorry to hear you're getting that sort of trouble from the non-profit that's meant to be helping you.
I'm glad to hear that you intend to keep going with the channel, at the very least I hope it can keep being something worthwhile to do with your time.
I'll keep watching your content - it's been very good so far.
Perhaps if it's going to be difficult to get new products in for review, you can look at pivoting to more information/tutorial type content like your CCEU content. More information about sharpening, maintenance, or even tips and tricks for assembly and disassembly could be useful for your viewership, and probably a good project for keeping busy!
Thanks.
Yes, indeed, I will be working harder on expanding my CCEU and related types of videos, that's the plan anyway.
I'm on disability myself for worsening neuropathy, patellar laxity and plantar fasciitis.
If you have a legitimate, disabling health issue like me and you, just remember you're not in the wrong for collecting a check.
Never let anyone look down on you.
Enjoyed your channel, God bless ya.
Edit: the problem with living on disability is that everyone who is ignorant to the reality of our situations. They think that we have it made I.E. "free housing, free money, free everything"
But the truth is it's not free. We still have to pay rent, and in some housing, utilities, we live off very little (unless you're a hustler having illegitimate kid after kid) and because the Govt "owns us" if we do go to work and try to be self-sufficient and get ahead in life, we just end up having to give the money back.
There will always be those who judge a disabled person who still has all their body parts as disingenuous - those people are best simply ignored, no matter how hard that is do.
One of the worst parts is that it's counter productive (from the perspective of the insurance companies and gov) to claw back every penny a disabled person earns because the the better off a person is the less support they need, but it comes (generally) as slow growth process, but if they cut everything off then there is no space for growth to happen
Sorry to hear the news Jake - Don't get me started on the Gov't...any of them. Will continue to support you though... Take care !
THANKS
You say how China pays it's workers is bad. Well they have more middle class workers than Canada and USA combined, and, they have more savings in a bank. And China has helped lift 800,000,000 people out of abject poverty. The rest of your show is up to date. I hit the like.
bad compared to what? India, the rising star of the freedom and democracy? or the US, the dying capitalist?
Thanks.
Communist governments are one of the root causes for abject poverty of their citizens in the first place, so I won't give them any applause for any recent improvements.
To be fair, I also blame Democratic governments as one of the root causes for abject poverty in their own countries too.
It's what governments tend to do very well.
I am really sorry to hear about your financial situation. I am guilty of not commenting enough on your videos but I've been watching a while. I hope you continue to make videos for your own enjoyment, in whatever form that takes. As far as the Made in China goes ... I know a lot of knife people who claim to only buy USA made. I think part of my frustration is the quality. They give US knife makers a huge pass on quality control (Uneven blade grinds, bad centering, lock failure, etc) while claiming Chinese products are inferior. Being USA made, or Italian, or German, etc., doesn't mean an inherent rise in quality. Thank you for all you do
THANKS.
You are not the only one to have commented about how Made in USA does not inherently mean good quality. Any company in any country can make junk and they can make good stuff, it just depends on what they want to make (usually profits with little regard to customers).
What sad news. I have always enjoyed your reviews.
I have one knife from We, a fair number of Civivis, some CJRBs, and some Kershaws, too. One liner lock, C Beluga came with a very weak lockup. WMK offered a return on it. I never got around to it and have been playing with it from time to time and it is improving. All of these are very good knives. I recently ordered an upgraded swordfish.
There are a lot of quite nice knives made there.
"Harley, the world’s largest manufacturer of heavyweight motorcycles, doesn’t disclose where most of the parts are sourced, but industry sources say the company gets them from the U.S., Japan, Italy, Mexico, China, Australia and other countries.
For years, Milwaukee-based Harley has used Showa-brand suspension components from Japan. Brake and clutch parts have come from Italy, wheels from Australia and electronics from across Asia." 😁
We live in a truly global economy. Very few products are made with parts and assembly done only in one country.
Keep up your great work and sensible discussions. Hope you keep up your good health first and foremost.
Thanks.
My health keeps improving.
I'm sorry to hear that Jake. I'll keep an eye out for your sale.
I plan to post at least one video a week before I do the sale, and then another when the sale starts, so that people don't miss it.
Sad news, insurance are not working for their clients
There's been some attorney channels talking about how insurance companies don't have to cover what you're paying for.
It's not unexpected that insurance companies care only for their financial bottom line. I had come to believe that this specific not-for-profit company had more generous policies than the average insurance business.
Typical Insurance Company response. When you don't need them, they're all over you grabing your monthly payments. Something happens and they do everything and come up with every excuse to reneg on a policy. Between them, Canadian banks and the current Canadian government it's no wonder the average Canadian is ruined.
Something needs to change sooner than later in this country.
Sorry to hear your saturation, that's really frustrating you have to shut down the CCE as a business to fight with the system, please let us know if there is anyway we can help, I think the major of youtuber who enjoy your videos will certainly happy to assist, all the best.
Thanks
I’m sorry that your health has caused you limited quality of life and now something like TH-cam, that has bought you some happiness has now come against you. I think China is making great stuff and most of my stuff comes from there because it is affordable. Your channel has been of value to me because of this. The only issue I have with Chinese made is not knowing for sure what steel they are using this drives me crazy but they are getting better with this and now brands like Eathengrow, Petrified Fish, Harnds, Huangfu and quite a few others now seem to advertise the correct steel. I also think 8cr13mov is a decent budget steel. I hope there is a way forward for you in all this.
Thanks Michael.
The steel question is a big one. I was very happy a few years ago to see the small database that Lee from @LuvThemKnives had started where blades steel was tested and verified. I stopped reviewing Eafengrow knives because they usually were made with different steels than they claimed. I cannot give you a complete list here but Petrified Fish and Harnds (and MOST others) have been quite honest in this regard.
Jake, I have enjoyed your channel and your Knife reviews. I will continue to pray for your health and your situation.
Thanks David
So sorry to hear about your Pension/Benefits issue. I'm on a Pension and all that as well. And I'm in my own kind of pain for many years so I certainly sympathize with your plight. I hope things pan out in your favor and they don't demand too much from you.
I well understand you getting CCE up and running. It gives you something to do and takes away the depression of just sitting around. You get motivated about doing something and you feel like you are worth something. I know the feeling. I just mess about in my shop for the same relief.
I support everything you said about Chinese Knives/Products. I have a lot of Chinese made knives. Some are of poorer quality. But some are absolutely spectacular. We all rely on and live with Chinese products that fill our homes. And over the years their products have improved in quality.
I always enjoy and learn from your videos. I hope you are able to continue. Stay strong with your health and benefits challenges.
All The Best to you Jake.
Thank you so much. I appreciate it, and I am so pleased to be reading a comment from one my favourite long term viewers.
Hi Jake. I'm really sorry about this trouble then insurance is giving you. This is so nonsensical and against the spirit of our time. But that's what insurances seem to be like. I'm so grateful that you want to keep your awesome channel alive despite this. If we in the community can help in any way, please let it be known. definitely, you'll keep a faithful channel follower in me.
Thanks Thomas.
Items from Dollar Stores and those from department store may have been made in China, but one shouldn't expect the same quality. Simple logic.
Quality isn't so much correlated with the country of manufacture as is the price of the object.
Jake, so sorry you have to deal with this mess. Sounds like you've had to overcome much adversity these past few years, and I'm confident that you will overcome this. You are a resourceful individual. Looking forward to what happens next in your knife journey!
THANKS.
I will survive this, and I will find a way to thrive, I just don't know the how and when of that part yet.
Don't blame the country or factory for the shxtty stuffs you bought, blame the importer who spec the products they think you can only afford
Thanks for sharing your perspective.
I hope that you don't completely go away..love the channel. I hope and pray that you do well and are blessed going forward.kerp your head up..stay strong my friend..!!
I plan to stay around, and I sure hope that I do.
I'll do less reviews but I plan to do more other hobby related videos, like my CCEU series.
I hate how life (and greed) tend to break down good people, it really sucks
It has a way of grinding us down, but I will survive and probably even thrive - eventually :)
Too bad, Jake. I have enjoyed your videos. Right now, China owns the knife market. They can make a better version of a Chris Reeve knife - with better action - for $40. Shipped.
I agree
Samsung parts are made in China... Just bcos it says made in Vietnam its not made in China. Vietnam or India or Korea they don't have all the supply chains for those components that's just the facts.
I think you misunderstood me, I wasn't saying that Samsung is made with non-Chinese parts, in fact I was saying that it was merely not assembled in China. I said, if you have a device of any sort with electronics in it then it is almost a sure thing that those parts were made in China. (Of course, there is way more than just electronics made in China(.
What cheap full tang knife around 15-50 dollars would you recommend for camping, preferably a knife great at feathering!
I would suggest a knife with a "scandi" grind. Search for MORA knives or Hultafors.
Scandi grind knives are the top choice for camping and bushcraft type tasks.
The 2 main ones that I suggest if you want to save the most $:
- Mora Craftline Series (decent stainless steel)
- Hultafors OK1 or OK4 (good carbon steel with coated blade)
For camping food prep consider a Cold Steel Roach Belly (or bring a kitchen knife from home).
@@CanadianCuttingEdge Thank you :D
Typical. Sorry to hear about this cluster#$%. Keep up with the content creation, it is good content and good for you.
Thanks John.
Sorry to hear the bad news Jake… I hope you beat the system and minimize the financial damage. I luv CCE!!!
Thanks!
Anyone who says China is junk are just highly ignorant and uninformed and quiet frankly have no idea what they are talking about. I dare someone on here to find me a better OTF than a Maxace Neptune for $108. Hell, my Maxace Mamba is very difficult to beat. WE knives. Just to name a few. China has some amazing knives being made there.
Indeed Joe!
No poverty in China today.
That would be nice.
Once Kizer entered the knife market, then we started seeing some well made Chinese knives. And these days the value for your dollar is incredible if you know what to look for. This is why we need CCE to weed through them all.
There still lot of made in China garbage out there but, those are mostly imported by Gerber & Kershaw :). Then there are the flea market and gas station knives.
I have not missed the reality that many of the brands that were at one time clearly American brands are now making some of the worst knives on the market. The brands are not run by the original founders (or their descendants) of the companies, and most have been sold various times. Brands like Shrade, Kershaw, Gerber, and many more are selling truly awful knives in their lowest price ranges. Thankfully those brands seem to be seeing the need to make some better stuff too, but only VERY rarely in the sub $100USD price range.
Sorry to hear about CCE. Loved the rant about China, spot on. Price is king.
Thanks meatman!
I'm sorry for your situation with disability. I hope this gets better for you. I greatly appreciate your help reviewing budget knives with a thorough and honest approach.
With regards to the China issue,well...that's a complex topic. Many of us would like to have options other than "made in China" but there are not that many out there. No matter how many letters one may write to manufacturers, profits drive stock prices and that dictates where/how products are made. China (and many other countries) have many ways of supporting their manufacturing sectors so that our own manufacturers have to contend with all of these aids given to Chinese producers (it is not a level playing field). Finance has sucked the air out of our US economy for other sectors such as manufacturing. Shareholder uber alles has been the rallying cry of the likes of Milton Friedman's free traders and seeking that last penny of profit takes precedence over long term investments in R&D, manufacturing, etc. Tax breaks to corporations are not invested in producing goods/services but rather stock buybacks. We've lost appreciation for what it is to make things and forget that the process of manufacturing itself involves creativity. China sees itself in a competition with the rest of the world (particularly the US) and is acting that way (with an unprecedented military buildup and aggressive tactics in the south china sea). To say that "made in China" has no cost to the rest of the world is, well, disingenuous. US is not the only country that wants to avoid a second "China shock" and many countries are acting to protect their own industries from the onslaught of heavily subsidized Chinese products, particularly electric vehicles. If only we had to worry about knives made in China, that would not be a big deal; it's a totally different matter when the computer chips that operate your weapon systems are made there (as well as many medicines, personal protective equipment such as masks, etc).
Thanks for that.
The made in China issue is definitely much more complex than I could cover in a TH-cam video. You make many great points that I didn't cover.
My current EDC is a Gerber Mansfield slip joint. Fit and finish is good with a very solid half stop. 3 1/4 inch D2 steel drop point with a Scandi grind. Shaving sharp right out of the box. I'm really happy with it. Made in China. I paid $58 CDN for it and if made in the US it likely would be $90 or more. I have a little Gerber US1 lockback made in the states. 2 1/2 inch 420HC steel blade. It retails for $31 US on the Gerber site I can deflect the blade over 1/8 inch with just a little pressure. As you say, every country makes great products and every country makes duds. My US made Buck 119 Special is a fantastic knife made even more so by the fact that I paid less than $60 CDN for it on sale at Canadian Tire a few years ago. Many people don't seem to realize that a lot of the big name knife companies outsource a lot of production to China. The knives are still designed domestically and QC is usually very tight. I won't try and speak to Chinese made knives from Chinese companies because I don't have any. You take care Jake. I have my fingers crossed that you'll get a break.
Thank you Brian!
Sorry to hear about your problems. Permanent disability? Pain? You look young.
Yes, I look great on video but I only record when I am at my best. I have been on long term/permanent disability for about 10 years now - it really sucks when it happens at any age.
What is short word CCE mean?
any one can send the full word, thk.
Canadian Cutting Edge (it's the name of my TH-cam channel.)
Politicians and media made people think in that way
What people with influence say has a huge impact on what others believe but we each have to take ownership for our own beliefs at some point.
Hey Bandit and Jake
Keep feeding the fire!
Funny how some of those, I won't buy Chinese because of how workers are treated, people; how they are against labour unions and find the left wing'ers a bunch of dreamers.
Also how can people not understand that socialism and communism are not the same. And that communism allows for cut throat capitalism?
I hope that the pension issue gets resolved in a better than expected way. Do you have any way to get issue specific legal/financial advice?
As of May 1st I will also be a pensionist. 😊
Thanks brother!
Yes, I have access to resources that are helping me though this challenge, I appreciate the concern.
I assume you are retiring. I wish you a most enjoyable time. I hope you find some productive hobby or volunteering or something to help keep you looking forward. I know too many men who just let their lives fall apart after retirement and end up depressed and become ill, I would hate that for you.
@@CanadianCuttingEdge for me it's an opportunity to get a life. It fell apart in '20. Had been hanging on, in a thin thread, for some years before that.
I have plenty of hobbies - maybe too many. A house that I've been neglecting (the not so great depression that I came through). My pack of four dogs - the puppy that I've kept is a gem, she is one stubborn girl with a mind of her own, but also quick at learning (apart from where to pee and poop) 😆. And the old parents to care for.
You'll get out of this mess soon. How do I buy a knife from your sales? I'm from Malaysia
When I am ready to do my next knife sale I will post about it here on my TH-cam channel with all the details. So keep watching. I will do my sale after I find out the exact amount of money I will have to raise, that might take a few weeks or maybe more.
It's sad that you have to go through that. If you were an illegal they would give you free money and all kinds of benefits. Prayers for you as you deal with this.
Thanks Ryan, I appreciate the moral support.
That is what they called the poverty trap. It is one of the main arguments for UBI.
It is definitely a poverty trap.
@@CanadianCuttingEdge Right? OMG, you are doing something to improve yourself? NONONO, we can't have that.
Right on Bro; I totally feel your pain. I am a working older Gent, that's disabled, too... So, I feel your pain. I do what I do for a lot of the same reasons as you. It's a fun Hobby that keeps me busy and out of the Bars...
Because, of the tensions between China and Taiwan and the US, I have stopped purchasing a lot of Chinese Knife Products and reviewing them. But, it's not because I think their Junk. In the past, before the 2000's, most of the Chinese Knives were Junk and were often cheap fake Knock-Offs.
Now, with Companies like CIVIVI, Kizer, CJRB, Artisan, WE, Reate, and other's, are making great Knives, now. Many don't know that China is the number one producer of Steel by a long shot.
Great Video. :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)
Thanks Kris, I appreciate that.
I feel your pain.I had a similar problem with social security
They are doing everything they can to keep a person down, while saying they are trying to help.
@@CanadianCuttingEdge you never get ahead they just won't let you
I am so sorry to hear that ... damn, thats crap
Yeah, that's exactly what it is. I will survive this, but it will hurt more than I prefer.
America's Boeing today is the made in China from 60 years ago.
I can empathize with that.
Wish you good health, and thank you for speaking up for others working hard too to make good products in other parts of the world.
Thanks.
Generally, products from China aren't of the highest quality. That's why I rely on your channel to watch your reviews, helping me identify which budget knives from China are worth considering. And am very sorry to hear for what’s been happening and wish you all the best Jake !
Thanks.
The Chinese have been moving from making poor copies of western products to becoming a design and engineering powerhouse - they are not quite there yet. The worse side of the issue is that in the democracies of the west we are in the long slow process of degrading as design and engineering masters - I hope we interrupt and reverse this process ASAP.
You get what you paid for. Nobody could do better for a given price point.
One of the best knives channel. Very informative
Thanks
Those ranting about China.. They need to step back and think..
Isn't it because China products are cheap that we can enjoy luxuries in life.. We can have what we need.. We can save a lot of money and allocate money to what we like.
We don't need high quality of everything in our lives.. If everything is so expensive.. How to afford?
Example..
I don't cook much.. Cheap kitchen knives is cool with me. Imagine I have to spend so much for knives.. Why bother?
Thanks that that Calvin
😅I think that Americans get a bad impression of Chinese knives from the knives sold in gas stations and corner stores (those $10 to $20 knives). In Canada we don't have that problem as knives are generally not sold in such outlets. Canadians usually buy knives from large box/hardware stores, or from 3 or 4 large on line stores that sell quality knives (knives priced at $75 and up).
Canadians probably see fewer cheap knives than our American brothers, and the result is Canadians have a better opinion of knives made in China.
I know I do...😉👍
Gas station knives - oh man that is an important part of the discussion I missed altogether - probably because, as you said, we don't have a gas station knife culture in Canada, so I didn't remember to talk about it.
I think you are 100% right, we experience much less of the junk knife market in stores here in Canada.
So sorry to hear about your troubles with the tax office! I hope the future is brighter for you, Jake.
THANKS. I'll make it through this.
But, the tax office is actually quite generous with people in my position, the whole problem is with my pension from the insurance company.
Thank for given me the word I've been searching for "immature"😂
Even our politicians had a awakening go from de-coupling to de-risking to call for normalization realizing how much we depand on China (Austrian already back to business with China), we're still threatening China with santions with Yelln trip!Granted we have more leverage than Australia or Europeans's economy rely more on trade plus we have huge consumers base and cultures!
These people are ignorant in a sense they had little understanding of how capitalism work!
Not that first world countries is not capable of producing products China produce! It just we're at a late stage capitalism and no longer cost effective, that's why even US compenies had to off-shored!
China per capita GDP is stll only 1/4 of ($1300vs$80000) US even though many think their economy is biger than US because of 4 time populations!
Remember we were the manufacturing power house like China today in the 50s&60s, Just as the Chinese lift the whole of Asia up given it size, we lift the rest of the West then!
If China can become 1st world, they gonna have to outsourse like we do,I suspect already happening via Vietnam or African Nations in small scale! I don't know they want to follow our total capitalist ideology!
That's the roots of China US conflicts! In socialist ideology government total support for industrial is seen as comm good (they are the one lower all these renewables energy products price let say 80-90% in astonishingly short time), in US is seen as unfair business practice! Profits should be all companies motives!
My last point is in a "free world" as we dub, we're propagandize day and night by media and politicians and not reality we live in!
If you want to reallt "kow", go watch a few of " Inside Chinese Business " channel(American doing business in China), then you might even understand more details what realities are!
Thanks for sharing a wider view of the big picture than I had time for in my video.
The problem with Chinese manufacturing is regulatory. Health, safety (both worker safety and end user safety), and environmental standards are not what they are in the western world. It's even common to have fraudulent western standards body markings on products.
They are capable of making things to a very high standard (though not the very highest), if they are properly compensated and there is quality control oversight.
And of course garbage can come from anywhere in the world, but there is a higher percentage of toxic throwaway garbage from China.
I gave found however, that with knives the situation seems better than average with Chinese-made products.
Thanks for a thoughtful response.
Ja kupuje z Chin i Chińskie nie tylko,ze są tanie.Ale też,że robią z coraz lepszą jakością. Przecież iPhony nie robią w Turcji,a własnie w Chinach.
Dziękujemy za podzielenie się swoją opinią. Doceniam to.
- Tłumacz Google
Thanks for being objective. We need people more like you.
I appreciate that
you want cheap cheaper cheap you'll get junk troops, pay more for better products
that is almost always true.
Your channel fell off my feed. I have missed your videos. Sorry to hear about your situation.
It turns out a lot of people got unsubscribed somehow. I found that a number of channels that I watch were suddenly out of my feed this year too.
Thanks Tom. I just sent an update via my Patreon list, so check for an email from Patreon to your gmail address.
Thanks so much! I totally agree with you. WRITE YOUR MP, this is how our system works, did you know you can even write the Governor General and they will do birthday and aniversary personalized videos?! Plus the GG outranks the PM, so feel free to complain about the state of our Country right now. I think that's pretty neat though, Queen Victoria did the same thing for decades.
I found your channel today because I was shopping for a new knife, the two I found were the CRKT bev edge and the CIVIVI mini praxis. I also enjoy Sheffield Ibberson knives, a lot of respect that they kept manufacturing in the UK, plus shipping is actually cheaper than from the US somehow?? Figure that one out.
I wish you luck Sir, I will catch up on some of your videos, hopefully that helps some, I do love Canadian products when ever I can find them. Except the Artisan stuff, far too expensive for my taste. I am also, unfortunately on disability and I hate it, wish I could just go back to work, sounds razy right? I wish you all the best!
Thanks Michael.
Where do people think the steel comes from to build there fancy overpriced flippers come from 😅😅😅
Most don't think about that, they just look at where a knife was assembled, not where the base materials were made.
@@CanadianCuttingEdge true that brother 99% of the stuff in our homes is China lol
To be honest and truthful, China is mainly preoccupied with quantity over quality! In MY area of experience: Electronics, bikes and bike parts, clothes, shoes and yes... knives! Electronics are deficient, bikes and bike parts, close to worthless, clothes and shoes a very short life span and knives are not so bad but still vastly surpassed by knife makers all over the world like Japan, Taiwan (And yes Taiwan IS NOT part of China) Europe, Pakistan and the U.S.
Chinese companies are well known for their desire for quantity over quality, but I think most companies are these days. The clearest and best exceptions (well over 90% of the time) is small companies in Europe and North America with less than 100 employees and most especially small companies with less than a dozen employees - these are the places where top quality is most likely to be found.
you have my respect, well said.
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I am so sorry that sucks you work your whole life pay into the system and then they screw you. There’s a lot to change in this world. I wish you well and again I am so sorry.
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Not buying something because it was made in country X is just plain jingoistic 99% of the time. People complaining about Chinese goods conveniently forget that most western companies moved their production to China to screw over the working class and increase their profit margins. Governments, both right wing and left wing let this happen over 4 decades now, not caring about the working class and the poor, just letting the rich get richer. Now suddenly they point to China and say that China is the enemy and start levying tariffs, and complain about the slave labor. These problems were rampant 30-40 years ago, so why did you let your companies maximize profits and screw over union workers? Communist China has been the enemy of the US and Nato since the 1950s - they sided with North Korea in the Korean war, they sided with Vietnam during the Vietnamese war, so regardless of which side was right or wrong, they were always the enemy, right? Did they stop being the enemy just because you could get richer? This is so goddamn Orwellian that I just find myself laughing and shaking my head - "...to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it..."
BTW, greetings from a fellow Albertan. For a change, TH-cam decided to recommend a Canadian channel. I mostly just get American recommendations and most of the time, buying those knives here is difficult lol
I am glad you found my Canadian channel. With knives as the main subject matter there are several Canadian channels but not many.
The whole made in China (or anywhere outside of one's home country) issue is way more complex than I could share in this video and will be much more difficult to change than people generally understand. Thanks for sharing some of the historical persepctive.
Loved ones name patreon but you get the bulk of profit under the table, ;) no income limit then & you can pay any taxes they get from it & you don't get penalties from disability, just a thought. an undeclared gift in name to be ok legally.
I can accept gifts, feel free to pass any on that you want to send my way.
@@CanadianCuttingEdge I'm sure we will when we can but that's definitely the way to get around them trying to screw you with taxes lots of gifts air quotes gifts and of course the barter is always a great way good luck I hope it works out & you can survive until this Insanity levels out, in however many years it takes...
Bummer 😡
Indeed.
I'll continue to pray for your health and your situation
Thank-you.
Dude, your ill-informed and been lied to about China... go there and do your own investigation to see how they treat their people... for Merica all you have to do is walk the streets and subways of Manhattan or Kesington street in Philly to see how we treat our own people.
Everyone, even you, have been lied to, that is the nature of human life.
Based on human rights, work place conditions etc?? First of all, all working conditions in Asia are similar. You cannot use western standards, or what you think is morally right and compare. Look at you own backyard and see all those happy Ameriacn workers waiving at you. Also please research China contents from outside western media sources. Second of all, please tell people to compare apple to apple and orange to orange. You cannot compare Wal-Mart knives to Cutco or Wusthof. Don't expect of being cheap buying a $20 knife and get a Cutco quality. Compare knives that cost similar. And thirdly tell your customers or fans to start buying American made products and boycott Chinese products. And don't get me started on the immigrant farmers or immagrant construction workers.
Did you actually watch the video?
Love your rant on "Made In China"... My thoughts exactly !!!
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You're right, made in China doesn't necessarily mean poor quality. I have lots of Ganzo and Kizer knives, I'm very happy with them, and your channel has certainly helped me in my purchasing decisions on a lot of those. That being said, I definitely do try to buy products made in not-China as much as possible. I buy a lot more tools than knives, I buy tools from the USA, the UK, Germany, Japan, France, Italy, Sweden, Spain, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and of course Taiwan, and all of those make me feel better than buying from China.
I also prefer to buy other products too. I bought my Samsung phone in part because it was not made in China, but the model I got ended up being one made in Vietman, another communist country.
We live in a global economy but buying closer to home when possible and practical, is a choice I prefer.
My grand uncle once said Sony tv and crap, buy Telefunken. Then my uncle once said, Samsung tv are crap, buy Sony. Now i will be telling my nephew don't buy Hisense tv, buy Samsung. Guess what my son will tell his nephews?
I have no idea what they will say :(
Chopping wood with an axe made in China 😂
That dead tree doesn't stand a chance.
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@Canadian Cutting Ed
You expect to get a 5 star room when you pays back alley motel room price
US awesome products...Apple, Testla chinese made
price and quality clearly have a strong correlation the majority of the time