same ran test it in the morning, and ran another in the afternoon all the while suffering from it band. this is the shoe I'm looking for the type of run I'm able to do atm. will buy another pair, it's worth it for me.
It‘s very inspiring for me to see you as a person where a journey can take you when somebody is putting in consistent work and effort 🙇♂️🙏 You‘re shaking out a 2:49 marathon even with not full effort 🫡😍 It‘s unreal to me 😍 That‘s is true greatness in my eyes 🔥 Someone who refuses to give up and found the peace of mind back and recognize that his potential is limitless 🙌🙏
@@supwell You‘re teaching a lot of spiritual lessons to the people around you and on TH-cam 🙏 Because in my eyes running and this whole process of becoming a better version of yourself is for me a very good analogy to life in general 🙏 More often than not we encounter some hard things in life and what I learned about the last view years is that the only way is pushing through like the last few miles on a Longrun. You’re reconnecting your brain and instead to quitt you finish this shit even you don’t want to 😄😄 And often the mind is a lazy mtf and just don’t want to but the body is very capable and to observe this kind of things within themself and getting over this 😍 Don’t believe everything you feel and think from the jump 🙌🙏 In my essence I am neither my body nor my mind. That is what I‘ve learned 🙏 and that is so much needed in that kind of times 🙌
Great content, as always. I was expecting Superblast, but I saw your vid on Skyward vs Superblast. I might have bought the Skyward if I've seen your video 1st. I got the Superblast for 150 so I'll just make it work😂
I’m no expert here as I haven’t yet run one marathon and I’m heavier and about double your pace but my 5 favs for my training have been. 1. Endorphin pro 3 - long runs, race day, speed days. 2. Vomero 17 - recovery miles or any slow miles 3. Topo cyclone two - light def feel the ground kind of tempo shoe. 4. Endorpin speed 3 - recovery miles up to tempo work. 5. Novabkast 4 - just super comfy - any miles for me this shoe is like a pair of your favorite jeans it just feels comfortable and can be used to anything.
I absolutely love my Endorphin Pro 4 for all the running situations you describe. I’m looking forward to a Triumph 22 review and would love a comparison against the Skyward X
As a fellow Hobby Jogger, my bank account gets scared everytime I watch any of your videos haha! I got the novablast 4 (even in the same colorway) cause of you. currently have a rotation of the endorphin speed 3 and that for my daily miles. Happy with it, but it's just a bit firm at slow paces (as you mentioned) . I might pick up the 1080v13 to complete my first 3 shoe rotation so that I have a recovery shoe.
Hahaha yeah you mentioned the novablast 4 was a little firm for you as a lighter runner. 1080 is def my favorite soft shoe out there and will be better if you don't like the firm feel
do it, yes it's expensive but it really is worth it. I bought a ton of pairs already from almost all brand in the span of 2 months in my running journey (could'ved saved a lot of money if this arrived earlier lol),. I can definitely say this is the one I'm looking for right now, there's still 2 shoes on order coming, but will ease on buying now, because I'm saving for another pair of these.
Great video as always. I just got a pair of NB 1080v13 and love them for slower runs to pair with my Saucony endorphin speed 3. definitely gonna try the Boston 12 and endorphin pro 4.
You should totally try out the prime x. Either the first or second version. It’s extremely bouncy and a little bit lighter than the skyward. Just a super super fun shoe with ridiculous comfort and bounce. You should try it
Great vids bro keep em up!... Would you consider trying the Saucony Triumph 20/21... Such a non assuming shoe, but I can't seem to get past it... It has served me through ultra marrothon and ironman training and with literally thousands of kilometres on it just won't quit.
The 1080 V13 is one of my favorite shoes ever. The only real issue I have with it is it gets hot on my feet. By the time I'm finished it's like a swamp in there.
@@Tatereagle6979 It's literally the only complaint I have about the shoes. They feel like heating blankets on my feet. I've actually took scissors to them and cut holes in the upper to get more air. Lol
Wow again a great review. I checkt al your top 5 cat. video's great. I have summerage them because it is a lot and overlap. I only wondering would this list in cat. (recovery, daily, longrun, speed and race) be different when you train for a 5,10,15km and be a bigger runner with a wide feet and pode insole? Marathon Shoe Daily trainer 1.Nike vormera-non plate (also for bigger runners and flat feet, neutral shoe) 2.Aesics nova blast -non plate (also for bigger runners (n1) and flat feet, neutral shoe) 3.Hoka mach 6 (best for most people - bouncy - bit more unstable ) *on (hyper) monster
Long run/ race shoe 1.Saucony pro 3 (also for bigger runners and flat feet, neutral shoe) 2.Aesics nova blast -non plate (also for bigger runners and flat feet, neutral shoe) 3.NB SC v2 or 3 (some what firmer then nova blast) *Saucony triumph (less stable) *Adidas boston 12 (also a option) *on (hyper) monster Speed/ tempo / threshold/interval workout/reps 1.Saucony Speed 3 non plated (better then 4) perfect cushion for any run, good stable also for bigger runners 2.Adidas boston 12 (Firmer - speed/pace session - also for bigger runners, flat feet, neutral shoe) | also long run tempo 3.Hoka mach 6- non plated (most allround- best for most people ) *Nb rebel v3 non plated (low to the ground, less cushion) also daily trainer *Saucony pro 4 (used for the race) or hoka skywalker *mizuno rebellion (60 min tempo runs- shorts speed bouts) Recovery run 1.NB 1080 - non plate (stable flat feet, neutral shoe) 2.Aesics Nova blast -non plate (also for bigger runners and flat feet, neutral shoe) 3.NB Sc v2 (plated) *on eclips Walking shoe 1.Brooks ghost max Do at all shoe 1.Hoka Skywalker x (also for heavier runners) - high stack 2.Saucony shift 3 (non plate) (also for heavier people) - high stack Race Shoe 1.Hoka skywalker 2.Saucony pro 4
Mixing up shoes works best for me as long as they are comfortable..I no longer use Adidas, Brooks,ASICS or Nike shoes cos they're either way too hard or a squishy sweat box..There aren't many breathable, Lt wt,quiet shoes that work for me..I tend to stock up on those that work,regardless of brand..makes it easier to just grab and go..yesterday I raced in the rocket x2 and today in the Mizuno pro 1 and next Saturday will be the Salomon S/lab pulsar again..choose the weapon that works for YOU on the course at hand..our choices aren't usually exactly the same,but they usually come from the same sweet spot of training and racing shoes..😊
I loved your video and your detail! Covered 19 miles in the Pro 4 this morning (2 WU, 4 x (1 mile 7:15, 2 miles 6:50-55, 1 mile off) and 1 CD) and it works well for those speeds approaching marathon pace. It would be a valid choice for a marathon. I got a half marathon PB in it in March but feel it's not the choice for me. 1080v13 look interesting and I will definitely check those out. Novablast 4 though, everyone seems to love this trainer. Not me. I feel like I'm about to get injured every time I wear it. Seems like they're made of concrete and they generate this odd slappy sound when they hit the ground. Probably a case of not every shoe can suit every runner haha!
The novablast took me some time to get used to - at first I had that slapping sensation as well at some slower paces and really didn't get along with them. I'm not sure if they've broken in or if I've just gotten more used to them but it's pretty much gone anyway
I’m curious if you have tried the Saucony Tempus. I feel this shoe is often overlooked for the Endorphin line but it has the same PowerRun PB foam and makes for an awesome daily trainer. Worth a try and a video review!😊
My personal preference is lighter and lower stack shoes for the treadmill vs the road since the treadmill feels a little softer already. Mach 6 or Rebel v4 would both be good - rebel is a little lighter and Mach 6 is a little bouncier with a bit more foam
Another solid treadmill option is the Adidas Adios 8. I’ve used that several times on the treadmill in my 300+ miles in the shoe. You get a good amount of ground feel, but the shoe is responsive.
Great video as always 💪 I would appreciate your advice, I am a 5' 7"/170 casual runner who runs only with the Saucony Triumph 20 (they wear up) and I looking for my next new shoe. My easy run pace is 5:50/K or slower. Daily training pace is between 5:20 - 5:40/K for a 10k, And my last 10k race result was 50 minutes. My new goal is to run a 10k in 45 minutes and take a step towards running a half marathon by running 15k. So, I plan to add speed workouts to my routine (something I didn't do yet). I tried the Speed 3 and the Boston 12 and both of them felt good. Which of the two shoes would you recommend for my needs? Or, do you suggest something else? Also, what would be a good shoe rotation? Would it be reasonable to rotate between both of them? Thanks, a lot
I love your videos! Keep up the great work. I’m finishing out my spring track season at the end of May and am planning on upping mileage over the summer to train for a marathon. Would you recommend the skyward x for doing that while staying healthy?
Thanks man! And yes Skyward X is a great shoe for building mileage! Another good option that's a little less expensive and also lighter weight is the SC Trainer v2 - of course no shoe can guarantee staying healthy but I like these higher stacked shoes for feeling a litle more comfortable over those long miles
Love your videos! I’m looking to get back into running and a shoe that can do it all, would you say the Skyward is a good option for me? Also, any recommendations for a good training plan to follow starting out, like couch to 5k?
I would go for the Vomero! It has a great deal right now for $95 at Dicks and is also super comfortable and fun to run in - Skyward X is great but might be overkill for your use case. The additional cushion and bulk was nice for runs 1 hour+ but I'd prefer a simpler shoe like Vomero or Mach 6 for shorter runs. And I'll dig up a plan for you - my go tos for starting out are Hansons method and Hal Higdon. I'll drop a link here when I'm back home
I've been binging your videos recently since I recently got into running, the man at the running store convinced me to get the Cumulus 26 since I have an extra wide food was wondering if you had any opinions on it? either way keep up the great content!
Thank you! I haven't tried that one yet but most of Asics training shoes are pretty solid - cumulus is a nice pick. I'm looking forward to trying it at some point this year
Great videos! Would love your thoughts on my current rotation and if the skyward x fits: race day AF3, fast long runs Cielo X1x, short speed work/intervals ES4, and I’m thinking of adding skyward as a recovery/long/easy mile shoe. Appreciate anyone’s thoughts!
Hi! Training for a marathon in October, right now my rotation is NB 1080v13, Adidas Boston 12, Saucony Endorphin Speed 3, and HOKA Mach 6. Is there any gaps I should fill besides adding in my race day shoe? Been debating Adizero sl, puma deviate nitro 2 for rotation but open to suggestions
that's a great rotation! unless you want something with a firmer ride i wouldn't go for the adizero SL - it filled the same role for me as mach 6. also deviate nitro 2 is awesome but lots of overlap with speed 3/boston 12. other than race day shoe your rotation is perfect! also i know lots of ppl like the speed 3 for race day so depending on your preference you could use that. my top pick right now if you want a carbon plated racer is the endorphin pro 4 - comfortable and fun
I got the Adidas Boston 12 because of your videos. I like it for medium to long runs, but it has caused blood blisters on both of my feet, on the pads behind my big toes. I thought it might be because of the crazy slick surface of the insoles, since my feet were sliding so much on them with every step. However, I've tried switching out the insoles with those from other running shoes, as well as wearing much thicker socks. Next, I'll try taping my feet before a run. So far, nothing works. I really regret buying them now. I haven't had blisters like that in years. 😡
Dang sorry to hear that! I haven't had issues with blisters through 300 miles, but I know some other runners don't like the fit. One suggestion I got recently was to switch out the laces for softer ones, so you can pull them tighter and get a better fit without hurting the top of your feet. A viewer emailed me this Amazon link and said these were the best ones for the Adizero shoes a.co/d/fzacRUW Sorry again they're not working out and lmk if this helps at all
They're using the same foam as the pro 3, which I have at about 280 miles and it still feels good. I'm planning to do a 100 mile review of the pro 4 soon so will let you know! But I anticipate it will get 300 miles no issue, similar to pro 3
Not sure about anyone else but I find the Nimbus 25 feeling flat in the right foot after 5k? It seems to bottom out? I’ve heard the different colours vary with the white and blue shoes being ok for some and the black colour scheme bad?
Yeah I prefer the 1080 to the nimbus. I had some quality recovery runs in the nimbus but it also felt limited - for me at about 10 miles it started to feel not as protective. Not sure about the colorways but I have seen variation in other shoes based on colorways (for example, Mach 6 sizing is different in different colorways)
That is so interesting. I got 1 pair of black 25 that was amazing in 2023. Got a new pair in January 2024 after using the other a lot, and the new pair went flat so freaking fast! Maybe 15k. I tried to return them to the store that won’t take them. I was surprised by the experience of the second pair.
Still a great shoe - but I prefer the Boston 12 for speed, Skyward X for steady/fun and 1080v13 for relaxed. So it got bumped off the list. Those are the tough decisions we gotta make out here 😩
Yessir! compared to the other daily trainers/speed shoes I highlighted, it doesn't feel as protective for longer miles - which are the building blocks for my style of marathon training. Love the Mach 6 but that was the one weaknesses it had on the 20 mile double run day test I did in it (also stability isn't great compared to the others). That's why I like putting a lot of miles on the shoes - sometimes it's different than what you'd think based on specs alone. Similar to Vomero - it rides lower than the reported stack
@@TheValonquarNot all, many of the super-shoes aren't superblast the new Paris, etc. I just had to get the speed 3 in a size larger because the wides no longer seem to be found. The speed 4s aren't. It's always hit and miss.
Vomero is designed more for comfort, durability and to be used for a lot of different types of runs. Speed 4 is more designed for speed workouts, long runs and as a budget racing shoe. If you want something for faster speed workouts, then the Speed 4 is better (though I prefer the Mach 6 and Boston 12 for that) and if you want a good shoe to use for everyday runs then the Vomero is better
@@supwell Awesome! I currently have Speed 3s and I really like it for its lean efficiency. But I may want to try Vomero at DSG when I get a chance. Thanks for your reply!!
ASICS is horrible in Canada. Bad website: the website is BROKEN when searching for sizes. No selections for sizes. Overhyped. Way overpriced: example $220 for the ASICS Nimbus. To be honest, I could care less if they just left Canada. GTFO
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Your dedication to putting these videos out is inspiring
🙌🏽 thank you
Got my Skyward X yesterday and put a few miles on them today. EASILY, my favorite shoe right now.
same ran test it in the morning, and ran another in the afternoon all the while suffering from it band. this is the shoe I'm looking for the type of run I'm able to do atm. will buy another pair, it's worth it for me.
It‘s very inspiring for me to see you as a person where a journey can take you when somebody is putting in consistent work and effort 🙇♂️🙏
You‘re shaking out a 2:49 marathon even with not full effort 🫡😍 It‘s unreal to me 😍
That‘s is true greatness in my eyes 🔥 Someone who refuses to give up and found the peace of mind back and recognize that his potential is limitless 🙌🙏
🙌🏽💪🏽 mutual respect sir! I love your positivity and energy man - it keeps me going!
@@supwell You‘re teaching a lot of spiritual lessons to the people around you and on TH-cam 🙏 Because in my eyes running and this whole process of becoming a better version of yourself is for me a very good analogy to life in general 🙏 More often than not we encounter some hard things in life and what I learned about the last view years is that the only way is pushing through like the last few miles on a Longrun. You’re reconnecting your brain and instead to quitt you finish this shit even you don’t want to 😄😄 And often the mind is a lazy mtf and just don’t want to but the body is very capable and to observe this kind of things within themself and getting over this 😍 Don’t believe everything you feel and think from the jump 🙌🙏 In my essence I am neither my body nor my mind. That is what I‘ve learned 🙏 and that is so much needed in that kind of times 🙌
Great content, as always. I was expecting Superblast, but I saw your vid on Skyward vs Superblast. I might have bought the Skyward if I've seen your video 1st. I got the Superblast for 150 so I'll just make it work😂
I’m no expert here as I haven’t yet run one marathon and I’m heavier and about double your pace but my 5 favs for my training have been. 1. Endorphin pro 3 - long runs, race day, speed days. 2. Vomero 17 - recovery miles or any slow miles 3. Topo cyclone two - light def feel the ground kind of tempo shoe. 4. Endorpin speed 3 - recovery miles up to tempo work. 5. Novabkast 4 - just super comfy - any miles for me this shoe is like a pair of your favorite jeans it just feels comfortable and can be used to anything.
Love that description of novablast 4
I absolutely love my Endorphin Pro 4 for all the running situations you describe. I’m looking forward to a Triumph 22 review and would love a comparison against the Skyward X
Triumph 22 coming soon! 💪🏽
As a fellow Hobby Jogger, my bank account gets scared everytime I watch any of your videos haha!
I got the novablast 4 (even in the same colorway) cause of you. currently have a rotation of the endorphin speed 3 and that for my daily miles. Happy with it, but it's just a bit firm at slow paces (as you mentioned) . I might pick up the 1080v13 to complete my first 3 shoe rotation so that I have a recovery shoe.
Hahaha yeah you mentioned the novablast 4 was a little firm for you as a lighter runner. 1080 is def my favorite soft shoe out there and will be better if you don't like the firm feel
You got me about to pull the trigger on the skyward X 😂
do it do it do it
do it, yes it's expensive but it really is worth it. I bought a ton of pairs already from almost all brand in the span of 2 months in my running journey (could'ved saved a lot of money if this arrived earlier lol),. I can definitely say this is the one I'm looking for right now, there's still 2 shoes on order coming, but will ease on buying now, because I'm saving for another pair of these.
So...did you buy it??😈😈
Great video as always. I just got a pair of NB 1080v13 and love them for slower runs to pair with my Saucony endorphin speed 3. definitely gonna try the Boston 12 and endorphin pro 4.
Shoe rotation is 🔥 . Putting in that Work!
You should totally try out the prime x. Either the first or second version. It’s extremely bouncy and a little bit lighter than the skyward. Just a super super fun shoe with ridiculous comfort and bounce. You should try it
It's on the list for sure - hoping to try it soon
tried the Hoka today, felt beautiful in everything, except the heel was rolling outward, which could cause injury after a while.
Great vids bro keep em up!... Would you consider trying the Saucony Triumph 20/21... Such a non assuming shoe, but I can't seem to get past it... It has served me through ultra marrothon and ironman training and with literally thousands of kilometres on it just won't quit.
Triumph 20/21 has to be the running shoe of the decade. Any running shoe I try I compare them to the Triumph first.
I love that shoe - put 350 miles on it!
This was very helpful, thanks so much!
🙌🏽
Also got any tips on how to _stop_ building a shoe rotation? Wife made me ask.
🤣
Fr me too
Asics Superblast if you only want to get one great, durable marathon trainer 🤩
The 1080 V13 is one of my favorite shoes ever. The only real issue I have with it is it gets hot on my feet. By the time I'm finished it's like a swamp in there.
Same here. Great shoe, but I'm not looking forward to running in them in the upcoming swamp a$$ hot NC weather.
@@realDougSheppard I'm in Ohio and it's bad enough, I can't imagine how gross they're gonna feel down there. Lol
Wild right?? I thought I was crazy at first. Never had a running specific shoe be so noticeabley warm on the feet
@@Tatereagle6979 It's literally the only complaint I have about the shoes. They feel like heating blankets on my feet. I've actually took scissors to them and cut holes in the upper to get more air. Lol
Wow again a great review. I checkt al your top 5 cat. video's great. I have summerage them because it is a lot and overlap. I only wondering would this list in cat. (recovery, daily, longrun, speed and race) be different when you train for a 5,10,15km and be a bigger runner with a wide feet and pode insole? Marathon Shoe
Daily trainer
1.Nike vormera-non plate (also for bigger runners and flat feet, neutral shoe)
2.Aesics nova blast -non plate (also for bigger runners (n1) and flat feet, neutral shoe)
3.Hoka mach 6 (best for most people - bouncy - bit more unstable )
*on (hyper) monster
Long run/ race shoe
1.Saucony pro 3 (also for bigger runners and flat feet, neutral shoe)
2.Aesics nova blast -non plate (also for bigger runners and flat feet, neutral shoe)
3.NB SC v2 or 3 (some what firmer then nova blast)
*Saucony triumph (less stable)
*Adidas boston 12 (also a option)
*on (hyper) monster
Speed/ tempo / threshold/interval workout/reps
1.Saucony Speed 3 non plated (better then 4) perfect cushion for any run, good stable also for bigger runners
2.Adidas boston 12 (Firmer - speed/pace session - also for bigger runners, flat feet, neutral shoe) | also long run tempo
3.Hoka mach 6- non plated (most allround- best for most people )
*Nb rebel v3 non plated (low to the ground, less cushion) also daily trainer
*Saucony pro 4 (used for the race) or hoka skywalker
*mizuno rebellion (60 min tempo runs- shorts speed bouts)
Recovery run
1.NB 1080 - non plate (stable flat feet, neutral shoe)
2.Aesics Nova blast -non plate (also for bigger runners and flat feet, neutral shoe)
3.NB Sc v2 (plated)
*on eclips
Walking shoe
1.Brooks ghost max
Do at all shoe
1.Hoka Skywalker x (also for heavier runners) - high stack
2.Saucony shift 3 (non plate) (also for heavier people) - high stack
Race Shoe
1.Hoka skywalker
2.Saucony pro 4
Great video! Did you ever set up the lightly used shoe list yet? I have a few shoes I would like to add. Thanks
Mixing up shoes works best for me as long as they are comfortable..I no longer use Adidas, Brooks,ASICS or Nike shoes cos they're either way too hard or a squishy sweat box..There aren't many breathable, Lt wt,quiet shoes that work for me..I tend to stock up on those that work,regardless of brand..makes it easier to just grab and go..yesterday I raced in the rocket x2 and today in the Mizuno pro 1 and next Saturday will be the Salomon S/lab pulsar again..choose the weapon that works for YOU on the course at hand..our choices aren't usually exactly the same,but they usually come from the same sweet spot of training and racing shoes..😊
Bearfoot mafia gonna be triggered bro 😂
I loved your video and your detail!
Covered 19 miles in the Pro 4 this morning (2 WU, 4 x (1 mile 7:15, 2 miles 6:50-55, 1 mile off) and 1 CD) and it works well for those speeds approaching marathon pace. It would be a valid choice for a marathon. I got a half marathon PB in it in March but feel it's not the choice for me.
1080v13 look interesting and I will definitely check those out.
Novablast 4 though, everyone seems to love this trainer. Not me. I feel like I'm about to get injured every time I wear it. Seems like they're made of concrete and they generate this odd slappy sound when they hit the ground. Probably a case of not every shoe can suit every runner haha!
The novablast took me some time to get used to - at first I had that slapping sensation as well at some slower paces and really didn't get along with them. I'm not sure if they've broken in or if I've just gotten more used to them but it's pretty much gone anyway
I’m curious if you have tried the Saucony Tempus. I feel this shoe is often overlooked for the Endorphin line but it has the same PowerRun PB foam and makes for an awesome daily trainer. Worth a try and a video review!😊
it's on my list! i'm excited for the tempus price to drop when the tempus 2 comes out (upper update only)
What you recommend for speed workouts on treadmills mate
Great vid👍
My personal preference is lighter and lower stack shoes for the treadmill vs the road since the treadmill feels a little softer already. Mach 6 or Rebel v4 would both be good - rebel is a little lighter and Mach 6 is a little bouncier with a bit more foam
@@supwell thanks for the reply mate👍
Another solid treadmill option is the Adidas Adios 8. I’ve used that several times on the treadmill in my 300+ miles in the shoe. You get a good amount of ground feel, but the shoe is responsive.
Great video as always 💪
I would appreciate your advice,
I am a 5' 7"/170 casual runner who runs only with the Saucony Triumph 20 (they wear up) and I looking for my next new shoe.
My easy run pace is 5:50/K or slower. Daily training pace is between 5:20 - 5:40/K for a 10k, And my last 10k race result was 50 minutes.
My new goal is to run a 10k in 45 minutes and take a step towards running a half marathon by running 15k. So, I plan to add speed workouts to my routine (something I didn't do yet).
I tried the Speed 3 and the Boston 12 and both of them felt good.
Which of the two shoes would you recommend for my needs? Or, do you suggest something else? Also, what would be a good shoe rotation? Would it be reasonable to rotate between both of them?
Thanks, a lot
If you like the triumph you'll probably like the speed 3! It's really versatile and great for speed work. I even used a pair to race a 10k in 2022
Love my vomero 17.. over 100 miles on them and still feel good.
how would u compare 1080 to gelnimbus line in softness
I can see how someone with different preferences might slot in different shoes for similar uses.
Yessir! That's why I like to title most of these lists "my favorites" and not "the best"
@@supwell I don't think there is a "best" shoe. There's just best for you.
Hi! For fast run such as intervals/fartlek, what shoe do you recommend? pace 3'/km (4:50/mile). Thanks
Saucony Triumph 21 for recovery and everyday runs
I love your videos! Keep up the great work. I’m finishing out my spring track season at the end of May and am planning on upping mileage over the summer to train for a marathon. Would you recommend the skyward x for doing that while staying healthy?
Thanks man! And yes Skyward X is a great shoe for building mileage! Another good option that's a little less expensive and also lighter weight is the SC Trainer v2 - of course no shoe can guarantee staying healthy but I like these higher stacked shoes for feeling a litle more comfortable over those long miles
Thank you for the response! I’ll definitely check those out too.
So you prefer the endorphin pro v4 instead the hoka Cielo x?
Love your videos! I’m looking to get back into running and a shoe that can do it all, would you say the Skyward is a good option for me? Also, any recommendations for a good training plan to follow starting out, like couch to 5k?
I would go for the Vomero! It has a great deal right now for $95 at Dicks and is also super comfortable and fun to run in - Skyward X is great but might be overkill for your use case. The additional cushion and bulk was nice for runs 1 hour+ but I'd prefer a simpler shoe like Vomero or Mach 6 for shorter runs. And I'll dig up a plan for you - my go tos for starting out are Hansons method and Hal Higdon. I'll drop a link here when I'm back home
@@supwell Awesome, thanks so much!
I've been binging your videos recently since I recently got into running, the man at the running store convinced me to get the Cumulus 26 since I have an extra wide food was wondering if you had any opinions on it? either way keep up the great content!
Thank you! I haven't tried that one yet but most of Asics training shoes are pretty solid - cumulus is a nice pick. I'm looking forward to trying it at some point this year
Great videos! Would love your thoughts on my current rotation and if the skyward x fits: race day AF3, fast long runs Cielo X1x, short speed work/intervals ES4, and I’m thinking of adding skyward as a recovery/long/easy mile shoe. Appreciate anyone’s thoughts!
Have you tried saucing tempus?
Not yet! It's on the list
@@supwell awesome, those are my daily but I am not training for marathon still only half
Hi! Training for a marathon in October, right now my rotation is NB 1080v13, Adidas Boston 12, Saucony Endorphin Speed 3, and HOKA Mach 6. Is there any gaps I should fill besides adding in my race day shoe? Been debating Adizero sl, puma deviate nitro 2 for rotation but open to suggestions
that's a great rotation! unless you want something with a firmer ride i wouldn't go for the adizero SL - it filled the same role for me as mach 6. also deviate nitro 2 is awesome but lots of overlap with speed 3/boston 12. other than race day shoe your rotation is perfect! also i know lots of ppl like the speed 3 for race day so depending on your preference you could use that. my top pick right now if you want a carbon plated racer is the endorphin pro 4 - comfortable and fun
@@supwell Thank you!! Just came across your videos this week and they've already been so helpful with understanding different shoes.
Do you prefer the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 over the Pro 3? If so, can you elaborate as to why?
I’ve tried on both and I have medium width feet and in my size the 3 is too snug but the 4 has the perfect toe box and is true to aize
You are starting to say “sweet sauce” so much that you may need to make it your tag line. Like SJD “butter my bread” 😂
I got the Adidas Boston 12 because of your videos. I like it for medium to long runs, but it has caused blood blisters on both of my feet, on the pads behind my big toes. I thought it might be because of the crazy slick surface of the insoles, since my feet were sliding so much on them with every step. However, I've tried switching out the insoles with those from other running shoes, as well as wearing much thicker socks. Next, I'll try taping my feet before a run. So far, nothing works. I really regret buying them now. I haven't had blisters like that in years. 😡
Dang sorry to hear that! I haven't had issues with blisters through 300 miles, but I know some other runners don't like the fit. One suggestion I got recently was to switch out the laces for softer ones, so you can pull them tighter and get a better fit without hurting the top of your feet. A viewer emailed me this Amazon link and said these were the best ones for the Adizero shoes a.co/d/fzacRUW
Sorry again they're not working out and lmk if this helps at all
@@supwellYes, I didn't mention the laces, but they're terrible for exactly the reason you said. Thanks for the reply.
@@supwell Fortunately, I also got the Saucony Kinvara Pro for long runs. Outstanding shoe so far.
Come back to that Adios Pro 3 dog, it might end up making the racing stable.
How many km Pro 4 can handle before it lost a racing vibe and pop?
They're using the same foam as the pro 3, which I have at about 280 miles and it still feels good. I'm planning to do a 100 mile review of the pro 4 soon so will let you know! But I anticipate it will get 300 miles no issue, similar to pro 3
@@supwell thanks 👍
Not sure about anyone else but I find the Nimbus 25 feeling flat in the right foot after 5k? It seems to bottom out? I’ve heard the different colours vary with the white and blue shoes being ok for some and the black colour scheme bad?
Yeah I prefer the 1080 to the nimbus. I had some quality recovery runs in the nimbus but it also felt limited - for me at about 10 miles it started to feel not as protective. Not sure about the colorways but I have seen variation in other shoes based on colorways (for example, Mach 6 sizing is different in different colorways)
@@supwell thank you for the reply! Keep up the great work! 👏🏻
That is so interesting. I got 1 pair of black 25 that was amazing in 2023. Got a new pair in January 2024 after using the other a lot, and the new pair went flat so freaking fast! Maybe 15k. I tried to return them to the store that won’t take them. I was surprised by the experience of the second pair.
@@msforest833 exactly my issue. I’m glad I wasn’t the only one. Seems a strange defect. Thanks for replying! 👏🏻
What happened to the sc trainer v2
Still a great shoe - but I prefer the Boston 12 for speed, Skyward X for steady/fun and 1080v13 for relaxed. So it got bumped off the list. Those are the tough decisions we gotta make out here 😩
Mach 6 has 32 mil stack in the forefoot and you're saying it doesn't have enough protection in the forefoot. That makes no sense
Yessir! compared to the other daily trainers/speed shoes I highlighted, it doesn't feel as protective for longer miles - which are the building blocks for my style of marathon training. Love the Mach 6 but that was the one weaknesses it had on the 20 mile double run day test I did in it (also stability isn't great compared to the others). That's why I like putting a lot of miles on the shoes - sometimes it's different than what you'd think based on specs alone. Similar to Vomero - it rides lower than the reported stack
Please review the kinvara Pro
Shoe companies hate wide footed people :( 😂😂😂😂
saucony and asics are wide
@@TheValonquarNot all, many of the super-shoes aren't superblast the new Paris, etc. I just had to get the speed 3 in a size larger because the wides no longer seem to be found. The speed 4s aren't. It's always hit and miss.
@@Run_forklift_run speed 4 are wide on the midfoot but narrow toebox
@@Run_forklift_run adidas adizero boston 12 are wide for example, hoka have some, altras nearly all wide foot.
When's the last time the 880 has even seen sunlight
Approximately February 16, 2024
What does the Speed 4 compare to Vomero?
Vomero is designed more for comfort, durability and to be used for a lot of different types of runs. Speed 4 is more designed for speed workouts, long runs and as a budget racing shoe. If you want something for faster speed workouts, then the Speed 4 is better (though I prefer the Mach 6 and Boston 12 for that) and if you want a good shoe to use for everyday runs then the Vomero is better
@@supwell Awesome! I currently have Speed 3s and I really like it for its lean efficiency. But I may want to try Vomero at DSG when I get a chance. Thanks for your reply!!
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If barefoot mafia is coming after you why would they watch your channel to begin with lol thats like you watching a carnivore diet top 10 channel
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ASICS is horrible in Canada. Bad website: the website is BROKEN when searching for sizes. No selections for sizes. Overhyped. Way overpriced: example $220 for the ASICS Nimbus. To be honest, I could care less if they just left Canada. GTFO
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