He also mentions the hara center as well. At times perhaps, his words don't match our experience, in the moment and that is as it needs to be. There is no need to deny or reject the difference in our experience and his words. His words or the words of any teacher may not match our experience. But they do afford us the opportunity to practice the attitude of allowing and trust that can help with this. What is arising in us is that which is arising to be re-cognized (as it were, it is being sent from that aspect of us that is complete yet mainly unknown to us in order that it may be re-cognized (not longer just deemed to be a form of not recognized gold but to be the flowing of gold itself). That is to say, by neither denying it (repression or suppression) nor necessarily giving agreement to what it may be telling us, can allow it to reveal itself and be re-cognized or known again as it were for the first time. (It doesn't know it can be recognized). We are allowing the limited or partial impressions from the passed to melt or untwist themselves. In this way what is arising can be given the receptive space that allows it to be "self-liberating". This moment of the untwisting is aka bits of 'insight'. Yet they don't happen when we want them to. It is patience (the attitude of being the actively receptive space or "room" it needs to untwist itself) that can allow it to happen in us and to us. Our part is to allow it the space (breathing room) to untwist itself. When it will untwist is not up to us. It will take its own time; in this sense we can't push the river. Persistence effortless openness or simple presence is what it needs. It will do the rest in its own time. How long does it take a block of ice to melt? Our task is to include that is arising as well as our mainly unnoticed bodily felt-sense of our own impatience for it to melt. That way we 'cease and desist' in interfering with the melting. (Such meddling action by us is called "killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.") We can provide the space for it to melt yet it melts in its own time, in its own way. It is our sense of separation that wants to push the river by hurrying-worrying to get the melting to go as we want it to. This impatience is a variation of the felt-sense of separation that also needs to be allowed into the inner space where it can be re-cognized as it untwist or melts itself. "This too" is sent from what we really are (the mainly hidden reality of love that has its own intelligence, courage and compassion) and is coming up to be recognized and rest again in the knowledge that it is not other than the energy of love that has its own intelligence and courage. We start out as the One energy of love..... the shock of learning that we are separate allows love the possibility to know itself uniquely and not just amorphously. It allows the hidden potential of differentiation within the Unity to reveal itself as differentiation without absolute difference, only a relative difference. Thanks be.
what does universal dimension of the hart mean, is he suggesting out harts (i.e. compassion) has some component that is not grounded in us? Sounds a bit Woo Woo.
John confuses deep heart with physical heart, emotional heart, heart chakra and is not clear about the real Deep Heart, Heart Mind, bodhichitta, that other teachers like Loch, Adya and Mingyur Rinpoche clarify and lead us to experience.
That's an interesting take. I wonder if that's based just on this video or on other things you've heard or read John to say. I just came here from having looked at his "he Deep Heart" in which he clearly distinguishes it from the physical, emotional heart(s) and the heart chakra, quite close to what Hameed Ali and Sri Aurobindo describe as the psychic being. I'd be interested to hear just what he said in this video (or elsewhere) that led you to write about this limitation.
This was so amazing I lack words. I melted, I cried. Got connected. Sacred. ❤
One of the best talks/conversations about fear I have ever found.
Thank you John for this wonderful message and meditation. It has given me much to contemplate. God bless you and yours😊🙏🕊💗🕯
This has been very helpful. Thank you both ❤
Brilliant talk. Helped me immensely. Both have an profoundly nuanced understanding of the internal world. Grateful.
Thank you for this. Love John's work and the exercises he took us through. 🙏
This is Wonder Full. Thank you!
not only come into the heart but come into the solar plexus
He also mentions the hara center as well. At times perhaps, his words don't match our experience, in the moment and that is as it needs to be. There is no need to deny or reject the difference in our experience and his words. His words or the words of any teacher may not match our experience. But they do afford us the opportunity to practice the attitude of allowing and trust that can help with this. What is arising in us is that which is arising to be re-cognized (as it were, it is being sent from that aspect of us that is complete yet mainly unknown to us in order that it may be re-cognized (not longer just deemed to be a form of not recognized gold but to be the flowing of gold itself). That is to say, by neither denying it (repression or suppression) nor necessarily giving agreement to what it may be telling us, can allow it to reveal itself and be re-cognized or known again as it were for the first time. (It doesn't know it can be recognized). We are allowing the limited or partial impressions from the passed to melt or untwist themselves. In this way what is arising can be given the receptive space that allows it to be "self-liberating". This moment of the untwisting is aka bits of 'insight'. Yet they don't happen when we want them to. It is patience (the attitude of being the actively receptive space or "room" it needs to untwist itself) that can allow it to happen in us and to us. Our part is to allow it the space (breathing room) to untwist itself. When it will untwist is not up to us. It will take its own time; in this sense we can't push the river. Persistence effortless openness or simple presence is what it needs. It will do the rest in its own time. How long does it take a block of ice to melt? Our task is to include that is arising as well as our mainly unnoticed bodily felt-sense of our own impatience for it to melt. That way we 'cease and desist' in interfering with the melting. (Such meddling action by us is called "killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.") We can provide the space for it to melt yet it melts in its own time, in its own way. It is our sense of separation that wants to push the river by hurrying-worrying to get the melting to go as we want it to. This impatience is a variation of the felt-sense of separation that also needs to be allowed into the inner space where it can be re-cognized as it untwist or melts itself. "This too" is sent from what we really are (the mainly hidden reality of love that has its own intelligence, courage and compassion) and is coming up to be recognized and rest again in the knowledge that it is not other than the energy of love that has its own intelligence and courage. We start out as the One energy of love..... the shock of learning that we are separate allows love the possibility to know itself uniquely and not just amorphously. It allows the hidden potential of differentiation within the Unity to reveal itself as differentiation without absolute difference, only a relative difference. Thanks be.
Is John related to John Barry? (My favorite composer ❤)
🙏🏼. 🧡
what does universal dimension of the hart mean, is he suggesting out harts (i.e. compassion) has some component that is not grounded in us? Sounds a bit Woo Woo.
Still waiting for the cutting edge science.
❤🙏🕊💞🎁
The Collective WE are the Crisis.... Aho
John confuses deep heart with physical heart, emotional heart, heart chakra and is not clear about the real Deep Heart, Heart Mind, bodhichitta, that other teachers like Loch, Adya and Mingyur Rinpoche clarify and lead us to experience.
That's an interesting take. I wonder if that's based just on this video or on other things you've heard or read John to say. I just came here from having looked at his "he Deep Heart" in which he clearly distinguishes it from the physical, emotional heart(s) and the heart chakra, quite close to what Hameed Ali and Sri Aurobindo describe as the psychic being.
I'd be interested to hear just what he said in this video (or elsewhere) that led you to write about this limitation.