Huzzah and congratulations on your first escape! Did you have a favorite part in the journey? Are you going back again to wipe the floor with demons and fill out the skill tree?
To this day, I still wish that both the game and the animated movie had gotten the sequels that they deserved. It would have been fun to see a new take on Dante's Purgatorio and Paradiso that followed the game and then adapt it onto the animated movie.
Ikr? I loved this game and it's story was good. This game came out when I was getting into hack and slashers combo games. I was also getting into dmc so maybe that's what helped me like th e game. I was looking forward to a sequel but they canceled it. 😥
⚫ Minos is the Guardian of the I Circle Limbo. The element is Ash. Limbo is a mountainous and rocky domain. 🟣 Python is the Guardian of the II Circle Lust/Pride. The element is Snow. As monsters there are: Serpents, Moray Eels, Pegasi, Lobsters, Crocodiles, Lizards (all six humanoid), Gorgons, Lamias, Hippocampi and Ophiotaurs (both serpentine), Vampires (draconid), Dracaenas, Sirens/Mermaids, Oceanids, Nereids and Tritons/Mermen (all four with two serpentine tails), Gorgotaurs, Dragons (humanoid and serpentine), Ichthyocentaurs (equine/serpentine), Satyrs/Fauns (with two human legs), Giants, Naiads and Lampads. 🟠 Cerberus is the Guardian of the III Circle Gluttony. The element is Clay. As monsters there are: Giants, Octopus (humanoid), Satyrs/Fauns (with two human legs), Oreads and Cyclopes. 🟡 Plutus is the Guardian of the IV Circle Greed. The element is Sand. Gold pearls are better than gold coins (example the gold lake of Plutus rich in gold pearls). As monsters there are: Scorpions (serpentine), Giants, Golems, Salamanders and Unicorns (both humanoid) and Satyrs/Fauns (with two human legs). 🟢 Hydra is the Guardian of the V Circle Envy/Sloth. The element is Poison. “See the souls over whom Envy has prevailed. In the warm bath of the sun they were once hateful; down here in the black sludge of the river Styx do they wish they had never been born.” “Souls indignant! How many up there now count themselves kings, that here shall lie like worms in the mire, leaving their condemnations far behind!” "The Styx, a toxic marsh. Those awash with Envy drowned again and again, choking on their own venom." Centaurs must be in the V Circle, using the Centaur Cacus as an example. As monsters there are: Centaurs, Dryads, Giants, Bears, Owls, Hawks, Wyverns, Basilisks, Crabs, Sharks, Turtles, Toads, Bats and Crows (all eleven humanoid), Beastmen (Goatmen), Skeletons, Wraiths and Necromancers (mummified). 🔴 Phlegias is the Guardian of the VI Circle Wrath/Heresy. The element is Fire. The Devils's Heresy is Wrath, for example Lucifer's Heresy of Wrath (which made the Devils wrathful towards the Angels and God)! The City of Dis is practically divided into three Rings: Wrathful, Pagans and Heretics. "The City of Dis held Hell's deepest secrets and the worst violent and treacherous sinners. The fallen angels guarded it's walls and flaunted his kingdom." As monsters there are: Beastmen (Goatmen), Colossi, Giants, Griffons, Vultures and Eagles (all three humanoid). 🔴 Minotaur is the Guardian of the VII Circle Violence. The element is Metal. As monsters there are: I Ring Ravens (humanoid), Beastmen (Goatmen), Minotaurs, Werewolves and Giants, II Ring Harpies (humanoid), III Ring Colossi and Lions (humanoid). 🟢 Geryon is the Guardian of the VIII Circle Fraud. The element is Poison. To torment the Hypocrites there is not lead but mercury (much more symbolic). 🔵 Ephialtes is the Guardian of the IX Circle Treachery. The element is Ice. In the I Ring of Treachery, among the Traitors of Relatives, there are also the Traitors of Friends.
I didn't finish the game but I remember there being an animated film based off of the games story that I really enjoyed back in the day. Every so often the animation style would dramatically change and I thought that was pretty cool. Wondering if anyone else saw it.
It's me! I saw that! I think it was an old experiment where different parts of the story would be taken over by different directors (hence the shift in art style), . I have long since lost track of my copy, but I appreciated what they were going for with it!
Okay real talk though: aside from fancy new-grade graphics, what else gets shuffled around? What kind of QoL updates do we get? What stays the same and what changes? Dead Space '23 as my barometer, It would be just as fun to play from ground level as it would be to see the changes!
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10:56 Dante's dad was very much shamed though and portrayed as utterly unsympathetic and unmourned by everyone else in both his death and second damnation. There *is* something to be said of how suicide was seen as worse than destructive greed fueled by very toxic masculinity (even by medieval standards) in both the time of the game's setting and the poem's though.
My interpretation was less in his portrayal (unsympathetic, like you said) and more his life, where (seemingly until the end of his life) he got free reign to do as he pleased, especially in sin, with no noticeable consequences or pushback in life. Obviously, his consequences in death are a different matter. Thanks for watching! Glad it stirred something in you!
Ah, playing through all of Visceral Games's games, I see haha I never played through this one, but I really enjoyed the ideas you present about viewing the poem and the game as products of their times. From what I've seen, I've always thought this game is probably Visceral at peak edginess, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's certainly a thing. And I have the same copy of The Divine Comedy! I've tried to read through the Inferno like three or so times, just on my own, but I always hit a point about a third of the way through where I'm like, "eh, I'm not enjoying this as much as the first several cantos." I seem to remember Dante writing about what I interpreted to be people struggling with depression who are sentenced to be stuck in a bog for all eternity, and I'm like, yeah, idk if this is a great thing for me, personally, to be reading right now. I'll get through it one day, eventually But great stuff, lots to think about! Wish I knew the source material better so I could comment on it more, but yeah man, keep it up!
Look, if they didn't have a bunch of straight bangers in the day, I wouldn't be drawn back! 😆 Don't worry; we're shifting to Capcom and Arkane next. Oh, this was ABSOLUTELY peak-edginess season. Between Dead Space 2 and Dante, Visceral was having a MOMENT, and I'm thrilled to have lived through it. Yeah, the old-school "sin"-shaming can definitely hit differently in our time, and it can be hard to separate ourselves from our known reality to try and take in a narrative like this. I think my general frustration with organized religion and its doctrines, even as they related to Dante's poem, helped me keep the blinders on when it came to sins and punishments more associated with my lived experience, but it's not an approach for everyone. No rush on taking it in. That's the perk of the literary canon: they'll just keep re-releasing it ad infinitum! Speaking of, though, you might jive with Marcus Sanders's version of the Divine Comedy (www.goodreads.com/book/show/19151.Dante_s_Divine_Comedy); more of a modern retelling that may resonate more with our time period and era, and written in more modern vernacular. I stumbled across it while tracking down information for the video, and it's found its way into my "purchase this when you have real people money" pile. 😂
I really enjoy this take on the idea of narratives being a product of their time. There's always a bit of cognitive dissonance for me when I replay an older game (or rewatch TV/movies) and see jokes/actions that are considered socially inappropriate now. It always seems to make me ask "was it really appropriate then either?" But then sometimes you just push through and appreciate it for what it is. I can see that doubled in Dante's Inferno, because of the original text and the age of the game. I'm also delighted by the little cuts to what I'm assuming is your hand, patting the Inferno novel like a small dog 🤣
I think that's one of the most fascinating elements of stories across media: both looking back at what flew back when, and seeing how people are both changing trajectory for future narratives AND trying to course-correct what's already been long released (like the written works of Roald Dahl, or old Disney shorts, episodes of the Muppet Show, etc.). "Was it really appropriate then either" is the hard question to ask; I remember so much of what disgusts me now being commonplace, celebrated, or (at the least) accepted in the past, so we're still applying our current perspective to our (or society's) past. But it still means we're trending upward and better than we were before. 🌟 I hope. Also yes that is absolutely my hand, and I love my Divine Comedy like a weird dog I keep on a shelf. 🤣 Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@ArchivistShepard "But it still means we're trending upwards and better than we were before" Oh no! We are going down! Fast and hard! We are going backwards in development.... Almost everything sucks now! Because of people like you....
I haven't played this game before but I experienced something similar (Castlevania: lords of shadow), where these two games *tried* to catch the GOW hype. To answer your final question, in my opinion the developers just wanted to make an action game and used Dante's Poem as a sales pitch (nothing more). I have nothing against using established works as a setting in video games, but trying to get the same meaning you had consuming the original is futile imo 😅
There are hype trains meant to be ridden upon, and then there's trying to ride it after the engine has already scaled Mt. Olympus and slapped everyone on top into orbit. End of the day, that's probably exactly what they wanted to do.😂 The concept absolutely slaps on paper. But I think there's a lot to be said coming back to it, looking for meaning, or construing new meaning, on a work after so much time! Same vibe for when you read your favorite YA novel as a young adult vs. reading it as an adult-adult; different parts of it can stand out more with a new perspective! ANYWAY, glad you liked the video! 🥰
@@ArchivistShepardi can't lie but you live in a whole sheltered life if you actually believe that the game and the devs are somehow one-noted and biased against how they handle females in which you stupidly compared to GOW to perceive GOW as what you believe in to it supposedly being 'a product of its time'
@@ArchivistShepardone more thing before you'll probably reply... i don't understand how you completely miss the mark of Dante's story, where hes literally the cause of all this and his redemption is about suffering through the consequences of his actions and what makes him special at that is committing every sin that Lucifer takes interest in... you're acting like the devs have something against women which would include original GOW games because of the female attention that GOW and Dante's Inferno have
@@godzillazfriction Word! In order: In a sense, yes, but it's more that my understanding of the OG GoW, esp when I was a literal child, is truly, TRULY based on headlines and controversy at the time (itself its own form of shelter). To date, I still haven't played the OG trilogy, not out of any negativity, I'm just more interested in other games nowadays. There's a reason GoW didn't make any footage here; I don't have any insight into it past those headlines of yore. Regarding Dante's redemption, it was the fact that it happened so quickly, in terms of the whole narrative, that rubbed me the wrong way. My understanding of the source text was that, as I mentioned in video, Dante was on a bend of redemption throughout the whole Divine Comedy, not just Inferno. In that sense, regardless of his sins in life and Lucifer's interest in him, it felt rushed, especially with the plans for sequel/s. I think it's fascinating how certain things, like biases or other perspectives, can come out in storytelling, whether the storytellers (and artists/animators) are aware of it. Or, just as likely, if that facet is coming from higher up, whether due to leadership's own biases OR trying to ride the slipstream of the ones who came before, OR completely unintentionally. Each option is fascinating in its own right, and it's fascinating to consider and explore.
@@ArchivistShepard you seem to be stuck on Dante's redemption only for it to appear out of nowhere at the end of the game when the WHOLE point of him being in Hell and trying to rescue Beatrice was to redeem himself because of that... you only say that there's certain biases in storytelling because of' higher ups' because you have a twisted perception of the things you believe in... you never explained the 'how' that is, you just say it and that's it... you really think that the devs have a negative bias against females because they have them nude all the time in display for the supposed 'male gaze' since majority of the audience is males... that's being disingenuous because the game and the devs don't hold exceptions with this thing because the whole game is about how certain biases and perception of ppl can brainwash and generalise those who are deemed different like Dante in the crusades killing Muslims or 'heretics' the game literally shows Lucifers schlong and you're here saying that at the time of the devs making this game, they have certain biases against women... you really need to prioritise a proper outlook on life such as moral depravity that the devs showcase towards HUMANITY... Inferno in this game isn't supposed to be all willy neelly to what not to showcase like female nudity or whatever you have an issue with.. why else do you think that there are certain forms of media that has to consumed by adults rather than children
A valid read if one can see it throughout the entire playthrough, like if Dante were fighting more visions and projections, but that doesn't seem to be the case (although would have been MAD cool to see play out more). I've read the entire journey through Hell as these schmucks/demons just being conscripted left, right, and center to (try and) beat up Dante, hence my take (and frustration) with the one-note portrayal of the Lust demons. But I genuinely appreciate the take! It will forever ruin future playthoughs where I think "Ah, damn, they could've made this so much more emotionally charged." 💜
I just finished this game for the first time today and I am so impressed with this game I loved it!
Huzzah and congratulations on your first escape! Did you have a favorite part in the journey? Are you going back again to wipe the floor with demons and fill out the skill tree?
To this day, I still wish that both the game and the animated movie had gotten the sequels that they deserved. It would have been fun to see a new take on Dante's Purgatorio and Paradiso that followed the game and then adapt it onto the animated movie.
Till this day it saddens me that it didn’t continue
Ikr? I loved this game and it's story was good. This game came out when I was getting into hack and slashers combo games. I was also getting into dmc so maybe that's what helped me like th e game. I was looking forward to a sequel but they canceled it. 😥
The game I’ll come back to occasionally
Now the big question is, do you go in fresh every time, or do you NG+ it and just lawnmow your way through hell?
⚫
Minos is the Guardian of the I Circle Limbo.
The element is Ash.
Limbo is a mountainous and rocky domain.
🟣
Python is the Guardian of the II Circle Lust/Pride.
The element is Snow.
As monsters there are: Serpents, Moray Eels, Pegasi, Lobsters, Crocodiles, Lizards (all six humanoid), Gorgons, Lamias, Hippocampi and Ophiotaurs (both serpentine), Vampires (draconid), Dracaenas, Sirens/Mermaids, Oceanids, Nereids and Tritons/Mermen (all four with two serpentine tails), Gorgotaurs, Dragons (humanoid and serpentine), Ichthyocentaurs (equine/serpentine), Satyrs/Fauns (with two human legs), Giants, Naiads and Lampads.
🟠
Cerberus is the Guardian of the III Circle Gluttony.
The element is Clay.
As monsters there are: Giants, Octopus (humanoid), Satyrs/Fauns (with two human legs), Oreads and Cyclopes.
🟡
Plutus is the Guardian of the IV Circle Greed.
The element is Sand.
Gold pearls are better than gold coins (example the gold lake of Plutus rich in gold pearls).
As monsters there are: Scorpions (serpentine), Giants, Golems, Salamanders and Unicorns (both humanoid) and Satyrs/Fauns (with two human legs).
🟢
Hydra is the Guardian of the V Circle Envy/Sloth.
The element is Poison.
“See the souls over whom Envy has prevailed. In the warm bath of the sun they were once hateful; down here in the black sludge of the river Styx do they wish they had never been born.”
“Souls indignant! How many up there now count themselves kings, that here shall lie like worms in the mire, leaving their condemnations far behind!”
"The Styx, a toxic marsh. Those awash with Envy drowned again and again, choking on their own venom."
Centaurs must be in the V Circle, using the Centaur Cacus as an example.
As monsters there are: Centaurs, Dryads, Giants, Bears, Owls, Hawks, Wyverns, Basilisks, Crabs, Sharks, Turtles, Toads, Bats and Crows (all eleven humanoid), Beastmen (Goatmen), Skeletons, Wraiths and Necromancers (mummified).
🔴
Phlegias is the Guardian of the VI Circle Wrath/Heresy.
The element is Fire.
The Devils's Heresy is Wrath, for example Lucifer's Heresy of Wrath (which made the Devils wrathful towards the Angels and God)!
The City of Dis is practically divided into three Rings: Wrathful, Pagans and Heretics.
"The City of Dis held Hell's deepest secrets and the worst violent and treacherous sinners. The fallen angels guarded it's walls and flaunted his kingdom."
As monsters there are: Beastmen (Goatmen), Colossi, Giants, Griffons, Vultures and Eagles (all three humanoid).
🔴
Minotaur is the Guardian of the VII Circle Violence.
The element is Metal.
As monsters there are: I Ring Ravens (humanoid), Beastmen (Goatmen), Minotaurs, Werewolves and Giants, II Ring Harpies (humanoid), III Ring Colossi and Lions (humanoid).
🟢
Geryon is the Guardian of the VIII Circle Fraud.
The element is Poison.
To torment the Hypocrites there is not lead but mercury (much more symbolic).
🔵
Ephialtes is the Guardian of the IX Circle Treachery.
The element is Ice.
In the I Ring of Treachery, among the Traitors of Relatives, there are also the Traitors of Friends.
I didn't finish the game but I remember there being an animated film based off of the games story that I really enjoyed back in the day. Every so often the animation style would dramatically change and I thought that was pretty cool. Wondering if anyone else saw it.
It's me! I saw that! I think it was an old experiment where different parts of the story would be taken over by different directors (hence the shift in art style), . I have long since lost track of my copy, but I appreciated what they were going for with it!
i thought that it was the different designs during development
A remaster is in order....
Okay real talk though: aside from fancy new-grade graphics, what else gets shuffled around? What kind of QoL updates do we get? What stays the same and what changes? Dead Space '23 as my barometer, It would be just as fun to play from ground level as it would be to see the changes!
I’m new to your channel and I hope this video makes you blow up! Wasn’t expecting you have so little subscribers… You do very good stuff. Great editing, analysis and narrative, loved it. Please make more of this!
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Well put.
10:56
Dante's dad was very much shamed though and portrayed as utterly unsympathetic and unmourned by everyone else in both his death and second damnation. There *is* something to be said of how suicide was seen as worse than destructive greed fueled by very toxic masculinity (even by medieval standards) in both the time of the game's setting and the poem's though.
My interpretation was less in his portrayal (unsympathetic, like you said) and more his life, where (seemingly until the end of his life) he got free reign to do as he pleased, especially in sin, with no noticeable consequences or pushback in life. Obviously, his consequences in death are a different matter.
Thanks for watching! Glad it stirred something in you!
It still looks amazing and the sound design comes in as my 2nd favorite behind mk2
Nice video man, just earned a subscriber!
Great quality video I’m glad I stumbled across this
Glad you stumbled on it, too! Make sure you check out some of the other videos; my biases aside, there are some bangers in there!
Hold on this video is way too quality to have less than 1K views
Hold on you're too kind to be saying stuff like that on the internet. 🧡
We had the exact same 2010 my guy!
MY GUY. 👊
Ah, playing through all of Visceral Games's games, I see haha
I never played through this one, but I really enjoyed the ideas you present about viewing the poem and the game as products of their times. From what I've seen, I've always thought this game is probably Visceral at peak edginess, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's certainly a thing.
And I have the same copy of The Divine Comedy! I've tried to read through the Inferno like three or so times, just on my own, but I always hit a point about a third of the way through where I'm like, "eh, I'm not enjoying this as much as the first several cantos." I seem to remember Dante writing about what I interpreted to be people struggling with depression who are sentenced to be stuck in a bog for all eternity, and I'm like, yeah, idk if this is a great thing for me, personally, to be reading right now. I'll get through it one day, eventually
But great stuff, lots to think about! Wish I knew the source material better so I could comment on it more, but yeah man, keep it up!
Look, if they didn't have a bunch of straight bangers in the day, I wouldn't be drawn back! 😆 Don't worry; we're shifting to Capcom and Arkane next.
Oh, this was ABSOLUTELY peak-edginess season. Between Dead Space 2 and Dante, Visceral was having a MOMENT, and I'm thrilled to have lived through it.
Yeah, the old-school "sin"-shaming can definitely hit differently in our time, and it can be hard to separate ourselves from our known reality to try and take in a narrative like this. I think my general frustration with organized religion and its doctrines, even as they related to Dante's poem, helped me keep the blinders on when it came to sins and punishments more associated with my lived experience, but it's not an approach for everyone. No rush on taking it in. That's the perk of the literary canon: they'll just keep re-releasing it ad infinitum!
Speaking of, though, you might jive with Marcus Sanders's version of the Divine Comedy (www.goodreads.com/book/show/19151.Dante_s_Divine_Comedy); more of a modern retelling that may resonate more with our time period and era, and written in more modern vernacular. I stumbled across it while tracking down information for the video, and it's found its way into my "purchase this when you have real people money" pile. 😂
This game is fun, but i only see this as a lesser clone of the God of war games.
Great video man 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Thank you, my dude! Glad you enjoyed it!
I really enjoy this take on the idea of narratives being a product of their time. There's always a bit of cognitive dissonance for me when I replay an older game (or rewatch TV/movies) and see jokes/actions that are considered socially inappropriate now. It always seems to make me ask "was it really appropriate then either?" But then sometimes you just push through and appreciate it for what it is. I can see that doubled in Dante's Inferno, because of the original text and the age of the game.
I'm also delighted by the little cuts to what I'm assuming is your hand, patting the Inferno novel like a small dog 🤣
I think that's one of the most fascinating elements of stories across media: both looking back at what flew back when, and seeing how people are both changing trajectory for future narratives AND trying to course-correct what's already been long released (like the written works of Roald Dahl, or old Disney shorts, episodes of the Muppet Show, etc.). "Was it really appropriate then either" is the hard question to ask; I remember so much of what disgusts me now being commonplace, celebrated, or (at the least) accepted in the past, so we're still applying our current perspective to our (or society's) past. But it still means we're trending upward and better than we were before. 🌟 I hope.
Also yes that is absolutely my hand, and I love my Divine Comedy like a weird dog I keep on a shelf. 🤣 Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@ArchivistShepard "But it still means we're trending upwards and better than we were before"
Oh no! We are going down! Fast and hard!
We are going backwards in development....
Almost everything sucks now!
Because of people like you....
0:58 you sound like an NPC yourself
Yeah, I recorded vocal before deciding I wanted to jam in little "dings" in the video, so the delivery comes off a bit weird. So it goes!
I haven't played this game before but I experienced something similar (Castlevania: lords of shadow), where these two games *tried* to catch the GOW hype.
To answer your final question, in my opinion the developers just wanted to make an action game and used Dante's Poem as a sales pitch (nothing more).
I have nothing against using established works as a setting in video games, but trying to get the same meaning you had consuming the original is futile imo 😅
There are hype trains meant to be ridden upon, and then there's trying to ride it after the engine has already scaled Mt. Olympus and slapped everyone on top into orbit.
End of the day, that's probably exactly what they wanted to do.😂 The concept absolutely slaps on paper. But I think there's a lot to be said coming back to it, looking for meaning, or construing new meaning, on a work after so much time! Same vibe for when you read your favorite YA novel as a young adult vs. reading it as an adult-adult; different parts of it can stand out more with a new perspective!
ANYWAY, glad you liked the video! 🥰
@@ArchivistShepardi can't lie but you live in a whole sheltered life if you actually believe that the game and the devs are somehow one-noted and biased against how they handle females in which you stupidly compared to GOW to perceive GOW as what you believe in to it supposedly being 'a product of its time'
@@ArchivistShepardone more thing before you'll probably reply...
i don't understand how you completely miss the mark of Dante's story, where hes literally the cause of all this and his redemption is about suffering through the consequences of his actions and what makes him special at that is committing every sin that Lucifer takes interest in...
you're acting like the devs have something against women which would include original GOW games because of the female attention that GOW and Dante's Inferno have
@@godzillazfriction Word! In order:
In a sense, yes, but it's more that my understanding of the OG GoW, esp when I was a literal child, is truly, TRULY based on headlines and controversy at the time (itself its own form of shelter). To date, I still haven't played the OG trilogy, not out of any negativity, I'm just more interested in other games nowadays. There's a reason GoW didn't make any footage here; I don't have any insight into it past those headlines of yore.
Regarding Dante's redemption, it was the fact that it happened so quickly, in terms of the whole narrative, that rubbed me the wrong way. My understanding of the source text was that, as I mentioned in video, Dante was on a bend of redemption throughout the whole Divine Comedy, not just Inferno. In that sense, regardless of his sins in life and Lucifer's interest in him, it felt rushed, especially with the plans for sequel/s.
I think it's fascinating how certain things, like biases or other perspectives, can come out in storytelling, whether the storytellers (and artists/animators) are aware of it. Or, just as likely, if that facet is coming from higher up, whether due to leadership's own biases OR trying to ride the slipstream of the ones who came before, OR completely unintentionally. Each option is fascinating in its own right, and it's fascinating to consider and explore.
@@ArchivistShepard you seem to be stuck on Dante's redemption only for it to appear out of nowhere at the end of the game when the WHOLE point of him being in Hell and trying to rescue Beatrice was to redeem himself because of that...
you only say that there's certain biases in storytelling because of' higher ups' because you have a twisted perception of the things you believe in...
you never explained the 'how' that is, you just say it and that's it...
you really think that the devs have a negative bias against females because they have them nude all the time in display for the supposed 'male gaze' since majority of the audience is males... that's being disingenuous because the game and the devs don't hold exceptions with this thing because the whole game is about how certain biases and perception of ppl can brainwash and generalise those who are deemed different like Dante in the crusades killing Muslims or 'heretics' the game literally shows Lucifers schlong and you're here saying that at the time of the devs making this game, they have certain biases against women...
you really need to prioritise a proper outlook on life such as moral depravity that the devs showcase towards HUMANITY...
Inferno in this game isn't supposed to be all willy neelly to what not to showcase like female nudity or whatever you have an issue with..
why else do you think that there are certain forms of media that has to consumed by adults rather than children
I thought the mostly female enemies when there because of what he did. As a reminder of why you are going to be here
A valid read if one can see it throughout the entire playthrough, like if Dante were fighting more visions and projections, but that doesn't seem to be the case (although would have been MAD cool to see play out more). I've read the entire journey through Hell as these schmucks/demons just being conscripted left, right, and center to (try and) beat up Dante, hence my take (and frustration) with the one-note portrayal of the Lust demons. But I genuinely appreciate the take! It will forever ruin future playthoughs where I think "Ah, damn, they could've made this so much more emotionally charged." 💜