I'm a nube at baseball and tbh it's fun to play but I'd rather blow my brains out than watch but here's my question: why can you steal bases (including home) even though the outfield catches a hit?
Richy M In summary, if the ball is caught without hitting the ground, you have to go back to the base you were on before it's touched by a fielder with the ball. After getting back to the base on a caught ball, you can advance.
+Adam Peck Hey, great observations! Let me share a couple of my own: the "hidden ball trick" also typically involves a "hidden ball" and a "trick." In the referenced play, nobody hid the ball, and nobody tried to trick the base runner. This was a complete mental lapse by the base runner and the second baseman happened to have the ball and be in a position to take advantage of it.
+Nomar Carreon Using the single instance in this entire clip where the player WASN'T tricked but was just a complete flake seems like an odd way of making that point.
Notice how old these clips are. Now the rule is that the pitcher has to be off of the ENTIRE DIRT MOUND for it to be valid, which means almost nobody is going to fall for it again.
+Michael Carrillo Also the fact that now players call timeout AFTER EVERY PLAY. Base hit to right field? Call time out to take off your shin guard. Stolen base? Time out to stand up and dust yourself off. The ball used to be live all the time until it was hit foul or into the stands. Now it's boring station-to-station baseball.
I remember watching that one. I think the guy who was fooled had just got on base with his first major league hit also. Remember watching that 3-4 years ago.
Any source for that? I'm pretty sure that's not true. The pitcher just can't be on or astride of the rubber. Which I'm pretty sure has always been the case.
I was playing shortstop in my game yesterday and I kept the ball in my glove and tagged the runner when he was wandering off the bag. The umpire was standing right in front of second, only about 3 feet away, and MISSED THE CALL. 😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬................😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬........😬😬😬😬.
Exactly. It wasn't planned... it was kind of just a fortuitous accident... And Kinsler is one of the most cerebral, quick thinking defensive players in the game, so he immediately recognized the gift and took advantage.
The runner was going back to the dugout. He thought he was thrown out at second not realizing the second baseman didn't have the ball and not realizing he was initially called safe.
I tried the same trick when I was playing baseball with my brothers in the backyard; my brother at first base(batting) was so surprised when he was tagged out.
This is extremely rare today, as almost all base runners ask for time after a play. And it is usually granted. And that makes the hidden ball play impossible, because once the ball is dead, the only way it can come back into play is when the ball is in the pitcher's glove, and he is standing on the rubber. If the pitcher stands on the rubber without the ball, the ball is still dead, and the pitcher could have a balk called. That is why umpires are taught to ALWAYS know where the ball is.
+The Engie That Cried Nope the ball is hidden from the guy who is tagged out. Players sometimes alert the umpires (refs) preemptively to the tag so its not controversial. But the last guy is just a flat out veteran and i was amazed by.
+The Engie That Cried Nope - Usually the ball is hidden. The person tags the player who doesn't realize the ball is hidden. That player is called out. Pretty easy concept here...
it's easy. the position players hide the ball in a way they think the pitcher has the ball withing knowing the guy covering the base has the ball. once they start taking any lead off the base, they are out
I don't get it...it's like when you make it to the majors they forget all about basic game rules...what so hard about remembering to stay on base at all times
damn... Those 1st base outs are inexcusable! There's no reason to step off the bag until you the see the white of the baseball in the pitcher's hand or mitt... hopefully Guillen learned from those two, because he looked like a total dumbass. The Kinsler one wasn't even really a hidden ball trick... the base runner was just an idiot and assumed that the 2b made the catch instead of confirming... Although I've seen Kinsler trick several players, I don't think he was expecting this... but it fell right into his lap & he took advantage...
I played for 17 years and watched every MLB game I could, but I never understood why players are always so nonchalant and like to step off the base so much. Easily avoidable. You can adjust your jersey AND pants even while having a foot on the base.
this hidden ball thing is so stupid, the play should end when the action stopes, otherwise the guy in first base will have to stay there forever till the other player decides to get rid of the ball, so once the play is done its done, he couldnt get eliminated for lets say 10 seconds after the defender gets the ball
no its not stupid... ofcourse he has to stay there forever. :D But what would the team gain if they kept the ball on that guy? nothing... so he would eventually HAVE to throw it to the pitcher for the game to continue. These games do have a penalty for delay of the game, im sure. Hidden ball trick is simply taking the advantage of the runner who didnt pay attention to the game... if you dont know where the ball is dont leave the base, simple.
+Wiz Plays - Clash of Clans We were taught this in Little League. I remember a time in the Majors there was a club house fine if you got caught. Don't know if teams still have that or not but they should have.
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2:12 that wasn't even a hidden ball trick. Why did that dude just walk off the bag like that? Even if he thought the ball was with the second baseman, the guy was right next to him!? Even the second baseman could have tagged him out.
My HS coach was so anti "bush league" and hated shit like this. He used to tell us to never leave the bag until the ump called time or the pitcher was set on the mound. One game I was pinch running and stole second and literally just laid their on my chest after a head dive to second because I was so unsure where the ball was
0:12 That awkward moment when your'e *SO EMBARRASSED* that you don't know *WHAT TO DO NEXT*. So you just stand there *wiping imaginary dirt off your hands* looking *dejected and stupid* wishing you were invisible.
Well maybe if they wouldn't walk off the fucking bag and just stay there then that wouldn't happen. even with the lead off rule u shouldn't be walking off the base
Not a hidden ball trick, but the best trick I ever heard was from Matt Williams when he was with the Giants. This rookie comes sliding in hard to third and the throw is late. He stands up the safe way where he's never not touching the bag and as he's standing there Williams tells him to move so he can clean off the bag - it's his job because he's the third baseman and the ump needs a clear view of the bag, just like with home plate. Well, it's highly respected veteran Matt Williams telling him he's got to clean the bag, so he moves and Williams tags him with a "Sorry, kid, you're out." Cagey veteran making rooks look like chumps since 1870.
the hilarious part of Uribe being tagged out at third by Longoria is that, of all people who could be coaching third, it was Tim Wallach, a stellar third baseman himself back in his day....how the hell did HE fall asleep on the play??? His job is to be paying attention when the runner isn't....
I love seeing this part of.baseball. This is not something taught very easily. The players either have this natural instinct or they don't. It's so fun to watch when it works out, but also fun to watch even if it doesn't. Cool stuff and cool video. Thanks for sharing!
After many years of umpiring state level baseball, in my personal opinion, i think the 'hidden ball' trick to not be in the spirit of the game. I know it isnt illegal and anyone can do it. I just dont believe it should be allowed. I think it makes a mockery of the game by using cheap tricks and sleight of hand.
Not the hidden ball trick at 2:15 - Stassi thought he was out on the force. Though he looked at the umpire who did not give a signal and walked off the base anyway.
2:10 was so obviously not a "hidden ball trick." He just thought the shortstop had the ball and made the tag. Nothing about that play entails a "hidden ball trick."
+wacoose well after every play the ball is called dead...simple. Its more about the main show of skills of hitting and bowling rather than these side tricks.
I don't think the third one was a hidden ball trick as much as the runner at second thought he was out already. He assumed the shortstop caught the ball.
This happened to me in little league, just after I stole third base. I was a fast runner and always a threat to steal. Cleverly, they used this against me. Although I went on to play in college, I'm still just a little peeved about it. Hey, it's only been forty years ago now! lol
Lowell's trick play was probably the best one of all these. What's great is that the ump had to have been exactly where he was and actually been paying attention for it to work, and did it ever.
I remember one time I was playing right, and a grounder got hit to me, so I caught it but acted like I didn't and when the person on first tried to go to third, I easily threw him out
i dont know baseball, whats the difference between tagging the base and tagging a player to get them out? alot of these tricks the player with the ball is closer to the base, but they tag the runner instead?
You should only tag the base if it's a close out tag the player when he isn't close too the base and and you are close to him now you step on the base when it's a force out just google what is a force out that will make it easier
You have to tag the runner when they are either coming back to a base or are running to a base without someone running behind them (forcing them to advance to the next base)
Lesson: Stay on the damn base.
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This is like CHEATING
I'm a nube at baseball and tbh it's fun to play but I'd rather blow my brains out than watch but here's my question: why can you steal bases (including home) even though the outfield catches a hit?
Richy M In summary, if the ball is caught without hitting the ground, you have to go back to the base you were on before it's touched by a fielder with the ball. After getting back to the base on a caught ball, you can advance.
last one was thug life
+flex2125 That one was my favorite! He was like "boink! you're out!"
That tap on the helmet was basically his way of saying "get gud pleb."
the tigers would haunt ozzie for years to come
Yeah hahahahahaha
It was pretty thug.
The last one though that head tag
2:08 that's not a hidden-ball trick. That's just poor base running owing to a complete lack of situational awareness.
+DroverChicago thats pretty much how the hidden ball trick works. poor base running and unawareness
+Adam Peck Hey, great observations! Let me share a couple of my own: the "hidden ball trick" also typically involves a "hidden ball" and a "trick." In the referenced play, nobody hid the ball, and nobody tried to trick the base runner. This was a complete mental lapse by the base runner and the second baseman happened to have the ball and be in a position to take advantage of it.
+DroverChicago He's just trying to say without lack of awareness, this play,or trick,can't exist, and they are tricked because of it
+Nomar Carreon Using the single instance in this entire clip where the player WASN'T tricked but was just a complete flake seems like an odd way of making that point.
DroverChicago fair enough
A cleat straight to the left nut...That's my hidden ball trick.
+seventyone71 Stupid comment.
Mark Schirripa Apparently not stupid enough for you to waste your time telling me how stupid my comment was. Loser...
"Hey, Guillen, I'mma gonna boop you on the head!"
"What?"
BOOP!
Notice how old these clips are. Now the rule is that the pitcher has to be off of the ENTIRE DIRT MOUND for it to be valid, which means almost nobody is going to fall for it again.
+Michael Carrillo Also the fact that now players call timeout AFTER EVERY PLAY. Base hit to right field? Call time out to take off your shin guard. Stolen base? Time out to stand up and dust yourself off. The ball used to be live all the time until it was hit foul or into the stands. Now it's boring station-to-station baseball.
Kinsler one isn't even old lmao
I remember watching that one. I think the guy who was fooled had just got on base with his first major league hit also. Remember watching that 3-4 years ago.
The Rays one happened just a few years ago
Any source for that? I'm pretty sure that's not true. The pitcher just can't be on or astride of the rubber. Which I'm pretty sure has always been the case.
3:15 When you see bae
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One of the oldest tricks in the book, and they still try it today. Amazing! That's why it's a game.....
Poor, Ozzie haha.
+Silas Evans that was funny
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I think Stassi thought he was out lol.
I was playing shortstop in my game yesterday and I kept the ball in my glove and tagged the runner when he was wandering off the bag. The umpire was standing right in front of second, only about 3 feet away, and MISSED THE CALL. 😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬................😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬........😬😬😬😬.
That must've sucked 😕 I play shortstop too
That's sucks
+Johnny Boy #CowboyNation #TonyRomoGOAT shortstop is the best I play it too
+Diamond James42 ikr
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the one at 2:10 doesn't look planned. I don't think he even knew the runner thought the 2nd baseman didn't have the ball
it most likely wasnt but notice how after he missed the catch, he acted like he had it so they pulled it off
Exactly. It wasn't planned... it was kind of just a fortuitous accident... And Kinsler is one of the most cerebral, quick thinking defensive players in the game, so he immediately recognized the gift and took advantage.
+Elite Puck But where was the runner even going? Even if the second baseman did have the ball, why is he wandering off the base like that anyway?
The runner was going back to the dugout. He thought he was thrown out at second not realizing the second baseman didn't have the ball and not realizing he was initially called safe.
1:55 angel hernandez does something correct?
+mtndewman1022 Shocking ain't it.
law of averages. 1 time out a thousand he is bound to get 1 right.
+mtndewman1022 Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I tried the same trick when I was playing baseball with my brothers in the backyard; my brother at first base(batting) was so surprised when he was tagged out.
Last one was like... "wake up you dumb!" lmao
Ozzie never was that smart.
You forgot Chase Utley WS 2008. That's was the best ever.
Well that wasn't exactly a hidden ball trick. Just an awesome heads up play by throwing it to home instead.
This is extremely rare today, as almost all base runners ask for time after a play. And it is usually granted. And that makes the hidden ball play impossible, because once the ball is dead, the only way it can come back into play is when the ball is in the pitcher's glove, and he is standing on the rubber. If the pitcher stands on the rubber without the ball, the ball is still dead, and the pitcher could have a balk called. That is why umpires are taught to ALWAYS know where the ball is.
I never really understood the hidden ball trick.
If you're tagged you're out. Simple enough
ario yakobus I know that. But what's the whole hidden ball that comes into play?
+The Engie That Cried Nope the ball is hidden from the guy who is tagged out. Players sometimes alert the umpires (refs) preemptively to the tag so its not controversial. But the last guy is just a flat out veteran and i was amazed by.
+The Engie That Cried Nope - Usually the ball is hidden. The person tags the player who doesn't realize the ball is hidden. That player is called out. Pretty easy concept here...
it's easy. the position players hide the ball in a way they think the pitcher has the ball withing knowing the guy covering the base has the ball. once they start taking any lead off the base, they are out
Bergman. Love this.
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RIP Dave
Lmfao at the last one where he just cranks him in the head without even looking, hahaha.
I don't get it...it's like when you make it to the majors they forget all about basic game rules...what so hard about remembering to stay on base at all times
Bro in little league they thought us to call a time before stepping off the base
damn... Those 1st base outs are inexcusable! There's no reason to step off the bag until you the see the white of the baseball in the pitcher's hand or mitt... hopefully Guillen learned from those two, because he looked like a total dumbass. The Kinsler one wasn't even really a hidden ball trick... the base runner was just an idiot and assumed that the 2b made the catch instead of confirming... Although I've seen Kinsler trick several players, I don't think he was expecting this... but it fell right into his lap & he took advantage...
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I played for 17 years and watched every MLB game I could, but I never understood why players are always so nonchalant and like to step off the base so much. Easily avoidable. You can adjust your jersey AND pants even while having a foot on the base.
Or you could just call time
This is why you should either call time or keep your damn foot on the bag, it's not that hard people...
I didn't even know that was a legal play...
+RyZe Tramp Ah I see, thanks.
2:07 where the hell are you going anyway?
this hidden ball thing is so stupid, the play should end when the action stopes, otherwise the guy in first base will have to stay there forever till the other player decides to get rid of the ball, so once the play is done its done, he couldnt get eliminated for lets say 10 seconds after the defender gets the ball
no its not stupid... ofcourse he has to stay there forever. :D But what would the team gain if they kept the ball on that guy? nothing... so he would eventually HAVE to throw it to the pitcher for the game to continue.
These games do have a penalty for delay of the game, im sure.
Hidden ball trick is simply taking the advantage of the runner who didnt pay attention to the game... if you dont know where the ball is dont leave the base, simple.
Poor Ozzie lol. What a great player but frequently got "caught" lol
That very last one LOL
This is why you are taught in middle school to not take a lead until the pitcher is on the rubber.
+Wiz Plays - Clash of Clans We were taught this in Little League. I remember a time in the Majors there was a club house fine if you got caught. Don't know if teams still have that or not but they should have.
+TheJer1963 Yea lol
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These are some awful first base coaches
3:14 Gonzalez went wide eyed and thought. 'God damn it.'
that counsel. ..
2:12 that wasn't even a hidden ball trick. Why did that dude just walk off the bag like that? Even if he thought the ball was with the second baseman, the guy was right next to him!? Even the second baseman could have tagged him out.
3:14 lmao
I think I was 14 or 15. I was pitching and me and my 1st basemen pulled it off. The only time it ever worked though.
4:34 Boop
My HS coach was so anti "bush league" and hated shit like this. He used to tell us to never leave the bag until the ump called time or the pitcher was set on the mound. One game I was pinch running and stole second and literally just laid their on my chest after a head dive to second because I was so unsure where the ball was
0:12 That awkward moment when your'e *SO EMBARRASSED* that you don't know *WHAT TO DO NEXT*. So you just stand there *wiping imaginary dirt off your hands* looking *dejected and stupid* wishing you were invisible.
Well maybe if they wouldn't walk off the fucking bag and just stay there then that wouldn't happen. even with the lead off rule u shouldn't be walking off the base
Todd helton is my favorite
The last one is my favorite
Not a hidden ball trick, but the best trick I ever heard was from Matt Williams when he was with the Giants. This rookie comes sliding in hard to third and the throw is late. He stands up the safe way where he's never not touching the bag and as he's standing there Williams tells him to move so he can clean off the bag - it's his job because he's the third baseman and the ump needs a clear view of the bag, just like with home plate. Well, it's highly respected veteran Matt Williams telling him he's got to clean the bag, so he moves and Williams tags him with a "Sorry, kid, you're out."
Cagey veteran making rooks look like chumps since 1870.
the hilarious part of Uribe being tagged out at third by Longoria is that, of all people who could be coaching third, it was Tim Wallach, a stellar third baseman himself back in his day....how the hell did HE fall asleep on the play??? His job is to be paying attention when the runner isn't....
I love seeing this part of.baseball. This is not something taught very easily. The players either have this natural instinct or they don't. It's so fun to watch when it works out, but also fun to watch even if it doesn't. Cool stuff and cool video. Thanks for sharing!
After many years of umpiring state level baseball, in my personal opinion, i think the 'hidden ball' trick to not be in the spirit of the game. I know it isnt illegal and anyone can do it. I just dont believe it should be allowed. I think it makes a mockery of the game by using cheap tricks and sleight of hand.
That is just my opinion man.
MLB smh.. this is the first thing you drill into the heads of little league players. STAY ON THE BAG!!
late 60's Tigers first baseman Stormin' Norman Cash was an expert at this.
I've seen more triple plays than I have ever seen a player even ATTEMPT this always awesome move, still waiting to catch one live! Haha
so...it seems even more boring when something funny happens ? Sry, i just really don't understand it XD
Not the hidden ball trick at 2:15 - Stassi thought he was out on the force. Though he looked at the umpire who did not give a signal and walked off the base anyway.
2:10 was so obviously not a "hidden ball trick." He just thought the shortstop had the ball and made the tag. Nothing about that play entails a "hidden ball trick."
It was second base player... Right? If not tell me
Cricket is better than this.
Does Cricket have the hidden ball trick? If no, then it definitely isn't.
+wacoose well after every play the ball is called dead...simple. Its more about the main show of skills of hitting and bowling rather than these side tricks.
+Mohit Garg, baseball isn't only these tricks
2:08 he thought he was out..... Not a hidden ball trick lmao it was a bad throw
Every base coach in this situation should be fired. I'd be screaming at my baserunner to stay on the bag. Pay attention!
2:14 wasn't really a hidden ball trick, just really really stupid baserunning. That dude should be embarrassed.
remember the hidden ball trick in the movie the rookie
Rookie is the year...
And that's why I'm here
We're watching that movie at school..
from 2002 or other year movie?
I don't think the third one was a hidden ball trick as much as the runner at second thought he was out already. He assumed the shortstop caught the ball.
Lol some of these man, you think how the hell did that work? And some were just ingenious and or hilarious to watch.
im 12 and i pulled a hidden ball trick yesterday at 3rd which is not my normal position which is first catchrr and pitchet
The Houston-Texas one is NOT a hidden ball trick. The guy thought he was out is all.
last one was head bang bang! BANG BANG! Damn... My head shaked up.
Damn little makes baseball interesting enough to stay with... the hidden ball trick helps a great deal!
1:53 was the best, Ref pulled off an "Agent Smith" with that "OUT!".
What was the 3rd base coach for the Dodgers doing when the Rays pulled it off?
1:58 now today, that would be a balk, pitcher foot touched dirt area, the circle, not the mound, or hill.
This happened to me in little league, just after I stole third base. I was a fast runner and always a threat to steal. Cleverly, they used this against me. Although I went on to play in college, I'm still just a little peeved about it. Hey, it's only been forty years ago now! lol
way to build yourself up there... it's four year later, have you gotten over yourself yet?
I payed first at my game and picked a guy off with a hidden ball trick today.
And from this moment on, Ozzie Guillen was cranky.
I play 1st and I always try the first one in games it is the best feeling when it finally works
Are first and third base coaches allowed to yell at players about who has the ball and stay on the base?
2:47 hidden ball or not, where the hell was the man on second going, look like he was going for a walk
Lowell's trick play was probably the best one of all these. What's great is that the ump had to have been exactly where he was and actually been paying attention for it to work, and did it ever.
bill buckner was the king of the hidden ball trick he did it more then any player in baseball history
+TheDman216 I remember in 1986 he even did it to himself in the World Series.
The one with Texas and Houston I think the runner thought he was out and started heading to the dugout.
They did this to me with two outs and I just hit a double
Great Jsb! ! giant shape What's your opinion about that, gzys
One time when I was at my baseball game and I had the ball and I was third base man and the guy ran past the base and I got him out
So he ran through the bag, that is not a hidden ball trick.
2:15 I did the exact same thing playing kickball in PE today lolololol
In my game a kid stole third and slid but didn't call time and he got off and I tug him
these are more of a lapse in judgement by the runner than a hidden ball trick
this happened to me once my dad was really REALLY mad XD
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lol .... Ozzie was master base running, but this is funny.
In some of these cases, you wonder if the base coaches need to take some of the blame.
I remember one time I was playing right, and a grounder got hit to me, so I caught it but acted like I didn't and when the person on first tried to go to third, I easily threw him out
I love baseball. Also nice to see that Counsell batting stance again, heh.
Tip 1: Never leave the base until the pitcher gets on the mound
Oh c'mon Bergman! Good sportsmanship! #thelastone
this guy is a rival with bronxbomber
Gene Michael was a master of the hidden ball trick.....
I'm so good at being a wiffleball pitcher!!!!!!!!!
Todd Helton, what a great ball player he was! what a grizzled veteran to. Heard he is an excellent person to
Since when is angle Hernandez a good ump
Pffff
Moral of the story: stay on base until time is called.
involved Does anyone see smarter than this version A uofl.
i dont know baseball, whats the difference between tagging the base and tagging a player to get them out? alot of these tricks the player with the ball is closer to the base, but they tag the runner instead?
You can only step on the base when there is a force out. Google it because it will take me a while to type out
You should only tag the base if it's a close out tag the player when he isn't close too the base and and you are close to him now you step on the base when it's a force out just google what is a force out that will make it easier
You have to tag the runner when they are either coming back to a base or are running to a base without someone running behind them (forcing them to advance to the next base)