Foundations Jumpstart Has A Bunch Of Commanders

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  • @ArtGuyCharlie
    @ArtGuyCharlie 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I think these simple commanders will appeal to established players more than you think. A lot of players, myself included, like having some simpler decks in their collection to pull out later in the night after you’ve already played some of your more complex ones. These commanders will make for great “I want to play Magic but I’m tired from a long shift and don’t want to think too hard” decks as well as “I don’t want to play a pure precon but I want something around that power level” decks.

  • @PM-xc8oo
    @PM-xc8oo 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Having some simple but solid mono-colored commanders is a great addition to the format. Making manabase building simple on its own is a huge plus for new players both by making the deck cheaper through using a bunch of basics for the land and also easy in that you don't have to get the ratios of mana right for multicolored decks.

  • @BlightDragonBrewery
    @BlightDragonBrewery 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I wish WotC would at least acknowledge and thank the EDH/Commander community/content creators for giving them every single idea they’ve ever had for the last 4-5 years. They can’t come up with 1 original idea to save their asses. Especially judging by their postponing of Return to Lorwyn in place of Marvel UB.

  • @STS-qi1qy
    @STS-qi1qy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    The Starter Set also comes with a side set of Sol Ring, Command Tower, and Arcane Signet (not Standard legal, of course) - so, yeah, they're dual-loading bringing people on board.

  • @smalx135
    @smalx135 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    A 3/3 bear? They've clearly gone off the rails entirely

  • @bryceduyvewaardt8136
    @bryceduyvewaardt8136 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I think it’s smart to add more legendary creatures that add support to less common creature types. Yugioh is famous for it’s power creep, but I do appreciate it’s retro card support that gets printed for older “archetypes” in order to have wider appeal, and I think that Magic can benefit from the same design strategy

  • @yummines
    @yummines 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Honestly I'm just glad in this set they finally printed a legendary skeleton that actually does skeleton things. Tinybones is discard or theft, Skithiryx is infect, and Bladewing is zombies. Don't even get me started on Skeleton Ship and Uchenbak.

  • @danielhettich5050
    @danielhettich5050 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    While it is a lot of new commander saturation, I am genuinely loving every single new commander option. They all look super fun and the simplistic design feels like a breath of fresh air compared to all the new legendary creatures in other sets. Dionus is especially a very sleeper commander. It doubles all your elf mana dork production, it goes infinite with any flicker/bounce effect, and can be used to make an elf vehicle/convoke deck.

  • @sausagechihuahua76
    @sausagechihuahua76 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    For Gornog,
    It doesn't say it becomes a Cowards "until end of turn."
    So they become Cowards forever on the field.

    • @michaelturner2806
      @michaelturner2806 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I was noticing that, and it might even help to shut down someone else's typal deck. Sorry, your Crested Sunmares and tokens they made aren't indestructible, because they're not horses anymore.
      I think that's how it works, anyway, since it also doesn't say "in addition to their other types".

  • @platurt9595
    @platurt9595 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I rly like the tack-ons. Seems like a more interesting buildaround than „the best cards of that tribe + the generic tribal package“

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think it helps you to make a deck without having to reach too much. I mean, you can just focus on the insects, or pegasi, but if you need more options, you can include worms or horses without feeling too bad about it.

    • @platurt9595
      @platurt9595 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@shorewall yeah that too. I'm just glad they essentially eliminate "chose a type"-tribal cards, which are usually so strong that they are autoincludes in every tribal deck

  • @hughjakeman5296
    @hughjakeman5296 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm really digging the vibes of the set... lots of cool reprints... cool new cards ... good intro set. Just really digging it.

  • @BadConAngel
    @BadConAngel 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hurska is pretty cool with Druid Class affects. Put a land down, gain a life, pay for trigger with said land. If you have multiple land drops per turn it’s even better.

  • @michaelturner2806
    @michaelturner2806 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've actually wanted a combined horse, horned horse, and flying horse themed commander for a while! So I'm interested in Thurid.
    The thing keeping Gornog from being really powerful I think is he can only make one Coward per player per turn, and only by having a creature attack. So you either need favorable attacks already *before* your commander makes them better, or have a way to make disposable tokens. And the onboard limit to how big your creatures get is how many creatures your opponents control.
    For a lot of these typal lord commanders from Jumpstart I'm assuming a lot of those types will be included in that half-deck, so any commander deck you build with it will probably have a good number of synergistic cards already. So that's a bonus for first time deckbuilders. Like just from incomplete Scryfall data there are 29 mono-red Warriors revealed so far in J25.

  • @lmpaske
    @lmpaske 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    These legendary creatures go so many multicolour decks. It’s genius doing it this way.

  • @alberhawkgaming8960
    @alberhawkgaming8960 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I think Dionus is a bit of a sleeper. She is basically a mana doubler out of the command zone while growing the elf army and then gives those elves sudo-vigilance after you don't need the mana

    • @Vektor480
      @Vektor480 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Commander is insaaaaane for PDH!

  • @MrHoneybadger94
    @MrHoneybadger94 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I want a cookie
    Wizards: here’s a cookie ☺️
    Demo: ….no 😠

  • @gabrielkopp9248
    @gabrielkopp9248 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Demo sees a new set with some cards applicable in Commander (aka every new set): “This is basically a Commander set!”

  • @GreenSkinGentleman
    @GreenSkinGentleman 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They're definitely intro cards. Rev is just a less Etrata or Sultai Gonti. Same damage = theft, but without the multi-colors to help her actually deal damage or the thematic Rogue Class card. I'll probably slot her in the 99 of a Prosper or Gonti deck though.
    Fumulus is badass though. I'm not sure if he's effective, but he's so cool.
    Snake girl sounds fun, but kinda meme.

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Something to note here is there’s also some jumpstart exclusive cards and seems like a lot of the legends are from that

    • @GrompEconomics
      @GrompEconomics 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, all the commanders with the different set symbols are unique to the separate set

  • @VegtamTheWonderer
    @VegtamTheWonderer 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Pauper EDH is getting a lot of juice this set.

    • @Vektor480
      @Vektor480 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I wanna build Ozox with all the costly plunder effects!

  • @thenobody_
    @thenobody_ 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Like like it. I've played mtg since 96 and it's refreshing to see some return to the basics. Not every commander needs to be 3+ colors and 10 lines of keyword soup.

  • @OniTreefolk
    @OniTreefolk 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    I don't mind the anime vibe, truly, but some of these are giving me the Yu-Gi-Oh vibes and I'm not feeling that.

    • @ManrielXiii
      @ManrielXiii 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Well, it's a good thing you dont mind it that much because it will all be anime art soon.

    • @edhdeckbuilding
      @edhdeckbuilding  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      is that the reason for this? attract yugioh players?

    • @OniTreefolk
      @OniTreefolk 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @edhdeckbuilding With Wotc seeing a rise in players outside of Magic with Universes Beyond, I wouldn't be shocked. It's also worth noting the rise in popularity of alternate art reprints that are anime influenced. They are highly sought chase cards that sell for a high price.

    • @ManrielXiii
      @ManrielXiii 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Hello there,
      As to why, anime has become a lot more mainstream and less stigmatized in the last decade. If we follow Wizards track record and their recent anouncements, combined with how popular and expensive anime treatments were, its only logical for them to move in that direction. More and more, they view the game as a ruleset and philosophy rather than the ip it was built on. They are simply catering to what will bring in more players.
      Yugioh is more kid friendly. It may be why the art is similar.
      I dont like this direction. I don't like being taken advantage of monetarily and being forgotten in the pursuit of profits. For me, it's simple, dont buy any cards that rub you the wrong way. Don't spend on products that you dont want to see. I may not change the direction, but at least I'm not a tool.

    • @gwynjustice6664
      @gwynjustice6664 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@edhdeckbuildingnot only that but they will be using AI art soon. Anime art styles have been so cheapened by scrapers it’s tiring looking at the style now honestly

  • @fabian7380
    @fabian7380 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You meant the Naya Commander deck that was called "Nature of the beast"? No tribal, but a subtheme of beasts.

  • @chrisgebben2043
    @chrisgebben2043 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    cleaerly this are all slam dunks in 99 in their usual themes
    for exampple Rev is no laughing matter you will realize that second ability is really a "Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer" for every creature so you can do one trigger per opponent and get three treasures so this is a slam dunk in either "Don Andres, the Renegade" or "Gonti, Canny Acquisitor"
    and dionus it allows Lathril to drain 20 life instead of 10
    the star fish legend clearly thats a no brainer in Arcades, the strategist.

  • @ZackeroniAndCheese
    @ZackeroniAndCheese 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I watch anime.
    But there are already so many anime card games out there.
    I miss Magic's classic art style.
    The new Sorcery card game executes that classic art style perfectly, but it doesn't have the gameplay I'm looking for :/

  • @punkypinko2965
    @punkypinko2965 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    They should have made all unicorns and pegasi typed as horse as well. They're all clearly horses.

    • @michaelturner2806
      @michaelturner2806 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Makes me think of the Ravnica Allegiance reprint of Concordia Pegasus, its unique flavor text is:
      "What makes a frog lizard any worse than a bird horse? Prejudice against the Simic, that’s what. It’s unfair!"
      -Thados Arquef,
      Guardian Project biomancer

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It reminds me of the social media argument on whether dinosaurs should be typed as dinosaurs or Lizard Beasts. It was a pretty heated argument before Ixalan came out, but I'm glad they went with dinosaurs. It really depends on if they are going to support the niche tribes, and this style of multi-tribe support really helps with that.

    • @punkypinko2965
      @punkypinko2965 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@shorewall It's like Naga are now all snakes. Makes sense to me.

    • @punkypinko2965
      @punkypinko2965 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaelturner2806 🤣

  • @AKAaBuster
    @AKAaBuster 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So, part of the intro feel is the core set vibes of the main set and thr monocolor restriction of Jumpstart packs, which is why everything from there is mono with a chance of a hybrid pip ability.

  • @andrewfornes5320
    @andrewfornes5320 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hruska Sweet-Tooth seems really cool.

  • @shmackydoo
    @shmackydoo 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Of all of these, the Pegasus commander seems the one I'm most likely to go after. Mono white battle cruiser seems like a fun strategy

  • @grampaw5605
    @grampaw5605 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice video quality Demo.

  • @davidlockhart9392
    @davidlockhart9392 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A lot of these are uncommon which is great for the Pauper Community

  • @michaelturner2806
    @michaelturner2806 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pol Jamaar, the new leader that can lead my Spawn Typal deck to victory! As soon as they print more than one Spawn. And that one can just shoot you in the face and die. Still! The groundwork is laid.

  • @steveolie985
    @steveolie985 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    psemilla gonna be a badass in amitou decks.

  • @punkypinko2965
    @punkypinko2965 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dionus 6:15 seems kind of crazy to me: every Elf gets it's own an untap ability and then gets a +1/+1 counter? That seems crazy powerful. Every Elf that has a tap ability can now do it twice each turn? Or they all have pseudo-vigilance when attacking? Isn't Dionus an auto-include in every Elf deck now?

  • @cteal2018
    @cteal2018 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes a lot of these are going to be "in.the 99" staples. That Elvish Archdruid is a weak Wilderness for Reclamation elfball.

  • @zeta280
    @zeta280 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Leeches got a commander before skeletons did.

    • @edhdeckbuilding
      @edhdeckbuilding  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the other tribe i mention in a video coming up is ogres. surprised they haven't got one yet.

  • @Luke-wt2ph
    @Luke-wt2ph 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The anime heavy presence of the art is giving me the ick a little.

  • @robertg.anderson483
    @robertg.anderson483 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not coincidence that Krosan Warchief and Slinza are both giant spiked beast that decrease beast cost lol

  • @norrock1
    @norrock1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want them to do a set that has Lhurgoyf as a main tribe. Disa the Restless needs more support

  • @WretchLikeMeOmar
    @WretchLikeMeOmar 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Uril, the MistStalker is a Beast

  • @patrickridenour6546
    @patrickridenour6546 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had 2 tawnos decks, one was bird tribal, one was beast tribal. Lemme tell ya, I switched to volo real quick

  • @chamaohug0
    @chamaohug0 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gornog ability that turn creatures into Cowards is not until end of turn

  • @dalestokes1679
    @dalestokes1679 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jelly fish tribal! Hell yeah!

  • @pretty_fly_for_a_jeskai
    @pretty_fly_for_a_jeskai 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    The anime style art on so many of these just hurts me, it's whatever but man I feel like an MTG boomer and I've only been playing commander for a year

  • @norrock1
    @norrock1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There's at least 19 legendary creatures that have the beast creature type. Including one in Gruul.

    • @edhdeckbuilding
      @edhdeckbuilding  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      how many are beast tribal commanders?

    • @norrock1
      @norrock1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @edhdeckbuilding like dedicated strictly to beast tribal? Like one I guess. It's the companion one

  • @tattooman3603
    @tattooman3603 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Need more sliths!! Lol, that and ffs WotC, give us some more foretell cards.

  • @crawdaddy1234
    @crawdaddy1234 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    One of the biggest issues I have with the Commander boom is that being multi-colored or being a Legendary creature used to be a DOWNSIDE. Now both are UPSIDES.

    • @FlabbahJabbah
      @FlabbahJabbah 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think I get this but they are still downsides in the 99, I also wouldn't consider being a command zone candidate as necessarily being an upside, more like a role you can consider using a legendary card for where multicolor can be useful

    • @Blacklodge_Willy
      @Blacklodge_Willy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Used to be", how many years ago are you talking here?

    • @crawdaddy1234
      @crawdaddy1234 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ Ummmm… before the Commander boom? Before the boom, there were only, like, a couple/few hundred Legendary creatures over the first 20 years of the game. One of the primary reasons a creature was given the Legendary supertype was to prevent people from having multiple copies on the board at a time. Being able to drop two Isamarus down plus another 2/1 by turn two wasn’t an experience people liked. Additionally, some had dies triggers that encouraged you to run multiple copies (but you lost both copies at the time). Note that I like the Legend rules change from a gameplay aspect, and this design can still be used.
      Onto multicolored Legends (outside reanimation targets): The fewer the colors, the more likely to see play, because it was easier to CAST/use. The mana system is intended to reward players for playing fewer colors by making allowing them to cast things with BBB or GGGG in its mana cost. Access to MORE spells should be balanced by how easy or difficult those spells are to cast. But Commander has completely flipped this concept on its head.
      *
      The game now rewards the things it was based on punishing.

  • @Caliban_80
    @Caliban_80 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do we not have a goat commander!?

  • @regail7143
    @regail7143 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I dont get how Rev isnt impressive? its professional face breaker in the command zone + the new gonti rolled into 1...

  • @cedarbobedar7223
    @cedarbobedar7223 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tawnos is a beast commander although not specifically gruul, and The Reality Chip is a jellyfish commander - like come on dude

    • @edhdeckbuilding
      @edhdeckbuilding  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      tawnos is not only not gruul but also doing birds as well. i wouldn't call it a dedicated beast commander, especially since it's blue. also, there is exactly zero people that are playing the reality chip as jellyfish tribal. unless you can locate one.

  • @chrysmurphy3974
    @chrysmurphy3974 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it just me or is Foundations trying to get in on the "cute critters" vibe a'la Pokemon and such ? I mean look at the Starfish Legendary and the Jelly Drover.....

  • @N4chtigall
    @N4chtigall 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I really like the new designs, but God damn the art on those cards is so underwhelming. It looks like some cheap Yu-Gi-Oh knockoff. And Yu-Gi-Oh art sucks. I don't know if its some kind of ploy to push MTG onto asian market or what, but I really think its a step in wrong direction.

    • @shrouded8797
      @shrouded8797 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Could these maybe be alternate/special art versions? Have there been cards with only anime art before?

    • @rraimundobruno
      @rraimundobruno 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, I usually like when they make alternative anime art for some cards because they an bring people who can give some different and unique spin on the standard Magic art, but those (except the insect and beast ones, I guess?) feel so uninspired, as if the artists didn't have the proper time or direction to do something interesting and had to go for the lowest hanging fruit. It feels more like the idea people who don't like anime art has of anime art, instead of the actual thing

  • @timfrench1333
    @timfrench1333 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I get what you are saying but aesi would be an intro commander using your logic

    • @edhdeckbuilding
      @edhdeckbuilding  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes, it is. one of the reasons it's so popular. you don't need to be a magic aficionado or a deckbuilding expert to play that deck.

    • @timfrench1333
      @timfrench1333 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's why I love your videos as I can take aesi and add the weird stuff you have on your videos

  • @arlekinos93
    @arlekinos93 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i noticed that most of these are uncommons in rarity. it feels like a list for some monocoloured pauper edh commanders to boost the format, paired with the simplicity of the creatures

  • @RobThePrincess
    @RobThePrincess 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As far as Pegasus Tribal goes...
    You said yourself that the best pegasus cards are TOKEN generators. So copying a Pegasus spell is actually pretty useless. All the pegasus spells are no good.
    Being able to copy the unicorn and Horse spells gives a chance at a good deck here.

  • @OODZUTSU
    @OODZUTSU 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    13:20 Put Pol Jamaar in Talrand naming Drake.

    • @edhdeckbuilding
      @edhdeckbuilding  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      certainly will go in the 99 of decks

  • @obadijahparks
    @obadijahparks 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Aphelia with rottenmouth viper......

  • @jakynth
    @jakynth 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Braulios would be nice for pdh

  • @Greatestnesss
    @Greatestnesss 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    12 year olds!? I got my 7 year old piloting a atla Palani deck lol

  • @damienclairat1574
    @damienclairat1574 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I guess i'm a 12 year old who wants to gain some life ! I'm gonna put the biggest lifegain spells there is and gain a huge buff just for 1 selesnya !

  • @AllegoryGar
    @AllegoryGar 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Let's have this be new players introduction to the game!
    *No one knows what is and what is not standard legal in packs*
    *The art on the cards have art unlike anything you will see in the game*

  • @Seedmember
    @Seedmember 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At this point, WoTC might as well pull the trigger and separate Commander from MtG altogether. Have cards specifically printed for it, without interacting with other formats anymore. Maybe it will actually help revive the other semi dead formats if they no longer have to design cards with commander in their mind.
    Hopefully, Pokemon tcg's idea of printing the same card with many different arts and foil, will stick. Let "investors" and "collectors" get their super rare overpriced uber fancy cards, while providing a cheap option for players who actually want to play the game.

  • @ghlutton7971
    @ghlutton7971 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Feels like I can only be excited to look at these cards once or twice a year at this point. The number of new cards, power creeping of old cards, and increased prices make me disinterested in the game.

  • @davidhower7095
    @davidhower7095 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it just me, or do Jumpstart commanders usually feel boring? Like, as far as I can tell, most of them are just an enabler and payoff stapled onto one card.

  • @7ince479
    @7ince479 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This anime artwork is lame. That is all. lol

  • @JackLyall-z7u
    @JackLyall-z7u 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    First ❤

  • @GigaLordShinyMudkip1
    @GigaLordShinyMudkip1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish they didn’t do the anime theme for the jumpstart cards, but other than that this looks a fun product to play. I have always enjoyed REAL jumpstart games with friends and family.

  • @BlondeSancho-qb9hz
    @BlondeSancho-qb9hz 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wtf is this art

  • @SSolemn
    @SSolemn 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hate how the cards look.... and I've been watching anime and reading manga for about 28 years now.... Sad because Jumpstart is fun to play, but I don't want these cards....

  • @KL-ie3dj
    @KL-ie3dj 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    definitely NOT digging the art... Reason enough for me NOT to play this stuff.

  • @joshhill8894
    @joshhill8894 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The anime art is so stupid

  • @logandevine4225
    @logandevine4225 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hey man, i cant help but notice that you are still saying "tribal" and not "kindred" when referring to creatures that share a creature type. Wotc officially changed how they name things and the words they put on cards and it seems many people find the word "tribal" when referring to a group of elves or goblins etc. as either incorrect (at its least offensive) or just actually offensive (at its worst) to people who use the language around "tribe" or "tribal". I live in a part of the country with many indigenous people and while that kind of change might not mean much to us white guys, it makes an actual difference to some people. Maybe consider writing "kindred" into your scripts or just trying to make that adjustment on the fly? I know it may seem silly to some, (maybe even yourself) but its a really nice way of showing others that you care about how they are being represented, seperate of your own preferences. Obviously not a command from me, it would just be nice to see a creator i like put in some effort to the gathering part of this game.

    • @zeta280
      @zeta280 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Least you can do when doing this performative BS is keeping it to yourself.

    • @firstandlast.1254
      @firstandlast.1254 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ""Tribal"" is just fine. Stop trying to police the speech of others.

    • @logandevine4225
      @logandevine4225 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@zeta280 i figured this was going to be a typical response, i did quite literally say that it makes an actual difference to some. If it was purely performative i really wouldnt give a shit, but knowing it makes a difference is the only reason i decided to speak up. Maybe that entire approach is just flawed though, im willing to admit i was off base entirely but i guess im just hoping im not. but like, even if its cringe, is it really that bad to show people that you care? i dont think so. we're playing a childrens card game after all, you can go be "cool" elsewhere

    • @logandevine4225
      @logandevine4225 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@firstandlast.1254 okay if its so fine why doesnt wotc use it anymore? were they told by historically oppressed groups that language hurts them? yes, so they changed. if you dont want to be a part of that change you dont have to be, but you will certainly not be a part of my gathering. which again, is fine and not the end of the world. i also wrote it out the way i did because i didnt want to assume anything from demo, ignorance is not inherently a bad thing

    • @kevinfelixclausell5244
      @kevinfelixclausell5244 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      No one at my LGS calls it kindred and I play at the biggest LGS in the country. I've only ever heard it called kindred from people in comment sections 😭 bunch of freaks