How Practical is my Saber-Messer-Yatagan Hybrid Design?
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I realized that I never got around to discussing the "Grim Grin", I had only put up the unboxing and test cutting videos. Time to remedy that.
So this time I talk about my thoughts behind these design elements, from the guard to the recurve blade. Pretty happy with how it works and handles.
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Skal : Let me show you it's features
Joerg , Doug and Ian : *I sense a disturbance in the force*
Doug and Ian?
@@Likexner Ian from “forgotten weapons” (gun channel) and Doug from “Doug DeMuro” (car channel)
@@Likexner Ian McCollum from _Forgotten Weapons_ ...presumably.
*edit:* I was 19 seconds too late.
I knew Joerg, I had an idea which Ian you were referencing but Doug... I needed to read further down to learn who he was. I'm not interested in cars much.
@@Likexner Ian McCollum from Forgotten Weapons , historian and writer , particularly on firearms. He's a very talented person , I look up to him to be honest.
Doug DeMuro , reviewer maybe ? He inspects cars and makes videos about them , from Forgotten weird cars to multimillion supercars.
They both use the phrase "let's look at its features" quite a lot.
i dont think "bling" and "raiding a monastery" were ever used in the same sentence before.
Well, the monasteries were raided for the blings, so...
Come! Let us go a-viking. Get us some bling...
"Hey, Sven, bling me that axe so we can chop down this door and raid this monastery"
nice to know
Maybe in an Assassin's Creed Valhalla video ?
Badass yet historically plausible and practically effective. Well done, sir.
Thanks.
@@Skallagrim Do HEMA groups have "run what you brung" events like used to be done at drag strips? People could bring home brewed drag cars that didn't fit into c;lasses and run them against each other and against professionals.
My point is, how will the sword perform against other types of sword?
Just needs some pyramids on the guards so you can punch people with it.
@@markfergerson2145 I believe he’d need to have a second, dull version made for that to be feasible. Which he may have done. I have no idea. I was just fairly certain there are no “sharp weapon” HEMA divisions.
@@markfergerson2145 That would be cool. A way to peer-evaluate designs on suitability for duelling.
Skall, I love your sword... yes, I’m the guy who thought empty bullet shells were nerf darts lol
Whoa skall calm down with the designs, gonna end up swaying all the hema babes
Are there HEMA babes? Or is it just Greg in a dress again?
Did you mean "slaying"?
@@ProudFilthyCasual
It's always Greg in a dress.
@@ProudFilthyCasual idk Greg does keep saying its medieval attire but I saw floral print on one
I feel like it's not talked about enough, but that sword is extremely satisfying to look at. A very, very pretty sword indeed.
Something about the attention to detail, the perfectly polished blade, and very neatly shaped hilt makes this particular weapon so aesthetically pleasing.
you should also design a scabbard that can fit it.
Really, it needs a "Shabbard" (re: Shadiversity) so it can be drawn from the back. This sword arcing down from a high draw would be devastating right from the start.
The best thing is the "let me show you it's features", made me check the channel's name 😂
Hi Owais.
@@isaacsupercommando8119 hey ✌️
He sounded eerily similar, gave me flashbacks god dang
If the sword doesn't have 5tb of storage then it's not practical.
You could hollow the pommel and stick a 1tb flash drive in it, or put a pi zero and make it play epic viking battle music when the sword is picked up.
@@Azurath100 I want a sword that plays the zelda item acquired sound when its picked up.
Don't put the flash drive into the pommel! You might not find it in the bushes after you have thrown it, and lose your important files.
Lets start with not having place for 5th finger. Heresy...
If the sword can't dispense soy sauce, can you really call it practical?
I love how the sword turn partially Translucent as it catches the reflection of the green screen
...Either that or the sword is just magical
I love recurved blades, and this is a very good one. As Matt Easton explained in one his recent videos, the whole point of that shape is indeed to get most of the benefits of both straight and curved blades. Thanks for the permission to use your design in fiction; I surely will
Man that looks like some awesome Easterling/Haradrim sword from lord of the rings dude, really frekkin cool
I like your quiet enthusiasm for your art. The entire subject is fascinating actually. Not just the swords but of course the history. I only stumbled upon your channel by accident, but you present your videos in an interesting way. I quite like it.
First time I hear you fully recognize the Yataghan lol. My favourite sword of all time.
Did you see that Skall? He's got a curved sword. CURVED SWORD.
I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself. I know it's old....
It's a nice blade. I wish I had the resources to try new designs like that, how awesome that must be.
Curved sword is old,
but did you hear that Skall? He's got a curved pommel. CURVED POMMEL.
3:40
Mad props for Skall, for designing practical but awesome looking fantasy weapon!
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I love it, its got that sweet spot of practicality and unusual/fantasy-ness.
Lost some points with the permanently attached pommel though.
Reminds me more of Khopesh in steel with more modern hilt.
a khopesh's curve goes the opposite way tho
@@neverseemstoAsh Say what?
Looks more like a falcata
@@neverseemstoAsh No.
@@ChromeMan04 Falcata and Kopis.
Hi, I'm from Turkey, love the sword. While pronouncing "Yatagan", you can pronounce it without letter "g". Like "Yataan"
Question: is the letter g always silent in the turkish language? Or are there instances where it is pronounced like a hard g like in german or english?
@@ct7567CaptRex There are 2 "g"s in Turkish. One is ,like you mentioned, hard g. The other one is "ğ". The letter "ğ" is the silent one. Well, in fact it makes difference in proper Turkish speaking but it's really neglectable, really tiny difference, hard to hear.
It is "Yatağan" in Turkish, not "Yatagan". So, one can pronounce it as "Yataan". If it was "Yatagan" in Turkish, then one should've pronounce the hard "g".
@@ct7567CaptRex depends on your accent. Normally it *is* voiced , but some people don't pronounce it. Azeris love to emphasize it in fact , my father is from Afyon and my mother is from Kastamonu and they both do pronounce them all he time , so do I. For me , I consider not pronouncing it to be disrespectful to our language and as a pro nationalist I _despise_ it.
Turkish isn't like English where all the words have their own respective pronunciation regardless of the way it's written. The written language is how it's pronounced. It is based on the Istanbul accent , or rather the accent of the western half of the country. Eastern half of the country likes to butcher every pronunciation , so just ignore them.
But for foreigners I recommend just skipping ğ sounds. It's hard to pronounce for non speakers of the language.
@@ikielinsesi1843 thanks. I knew that sometimes the g was soft in turkish I just didnt know when. But I knew that the g in erdogan was silent, (i think) so it drives me nuts when I hear my fellow german people pronounce erdogan (sounds that way) instead of erdoan. It just sounds weird. But it's nothing new. I always die inside a little bit whenever I hear the common german pleb pronounce english or french words. It's a crime against humanity.
@@ikielinsesi1843 Thank you, TIL more about the Turkish language. Neat post.
Hey skall, there is a mobile game using your footage for there ads. Just thought id let you know that!
Edit: its called magic woods
To me it looks like an “elvish” saber
Looks really cool to use!
Don't discount yourself too much, this kinda stuff takes a lot of knowledge to get right. I really like it.
Wow. That is possibly the coolest saber hybrid ever made! ⚔️
its pretty neat that you can be able to combine 3 swords into 1 and still make it more useful
The handle construction and the "pommel" reminds me of russian ww1 sabers...
Imo it shares some similarities with polish handle design
This sword design is still so cool, I remember being a kid and sketching all varieties of ridiculous fantasy and swords I thought could have existed, and coming up with something similar, though not nearly as detailed
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as far as it can reasonably be claimed, it seems like the perfect one handed sword. obviously, there cant actually be such a thing, but this would be a good contender for it
inb4 everyone rushes in to try and say their 1 handed sword designs are better
I see its' merits. Try to be all things and, of course, you're perfect at none. But who needs perfection compaired to always having something? This is what so many blades, like messer are about.
I'd prefer to say it could be the most reliable
It's probably the perfect one hander for skall. It would be interesting to compare it to costum designs of other sword aficionados.
needs some thumb protection and I would agree it's a wonderful design.
I’m a simple man. I see Skal post a new video i watch it.
So... does this count as triple wielding?
I was thinking the same thing
I think "Trial Weilding" weilding would be the name. But yeah, can't wait for that feature in TES VI.
How so?
@@pahbody5336 Quite sure it was a joke, because it's a mix of 3 different swords.
i loved the ending 13 seconds. like a fantasy game dialogue screen.
Interesting, a 6" increase in blade length and another 4" in the handle with an adaptation on the guard to make it an possible hand an a halfer would be interesting
Being a massive Falcata and Kilij/Scimitar sword styles; this perfect meld of the two is astounding. Love the design man.
Looks cool and badass + practical and made by combining 3 real life sword traits = 10/10. Highly impressed.
I've drawn similar designs via the same process (bit of this and bit of that), and it amazes me how similar the ideas are. Convergent evolution I guess? But I'm really glad to see how practical your design is, because it gives me hope that my own designs may be functional.
I like the backgrond mixed with the frame you made.
I really like this sword. Love recurves.
100% using this for caravan guards in my TTRPG setting, thanks Skall!
I will be borrowing many elements of this sword for the design in my book. Thank you.
Thanks for saying writers can use the design because I am a writer and I'm always looking for practical designs that are still distinct or have a nice aesthetic. I try to design my own hybrid weapons but I have no real way to know how practical they are. This video and your design help a lot!
"So the point is in line with the hilt. Don't know how well you can see this" very first thing I saw, and loved, before also hearing his name. S'a boy, right? Can't always tell, with such dancers from a distance, but Grin seems a Sir to me
I love this sword, great design both aesthetically and practically
Truly elegant
I love watch and learning about swords ❤️
If this is what you like then you are successful in your approach. This is not the sword for me, but thank you for your thought processes on creating this weapon.
Bought a fancy ring from your last VKNG Jewelry sponsorship. Took a while to arrive (not their fault, it was just mailing services being overwhelmed), but now I wear it every day. Looks amazing and I love it. ^-^
Love this sword! Made my first realistic swprd design inspired by this video, was a lot of fun
My fav blade so far!
Holy God Bless! That is exactly the ideal blade I’ve imagined. This is awesome!
I'm working on designing a sword that is a hybrid between a saber and a liuyedao with some additional features on the guard
Good luck
@@Saturnus_Ouranos Thank you. It's a WIP for a character in a novel that I'm writing. While it is "magical" I wan it to be functional and aesthetically pleasing.
I've been completely changed and made up my mind on medieval martial arts since I discovered your channel about 4 years ago. I was always a fan of all the pre-gunpowder and pre-steam ages but I have been sleeping on fantasy fictions like Patrick face with dropping saliva on it :D I have to confess that especially spin cuts fascinated me 🙄 So anyways, thank you for all of your videos. I have watched them all. Yes, ALL. Have a happy life and i wish good fortune for you. Thanks Skall.
Skall, it's nice that you are letting people use your design. Pulling together existing in a new and effective way is creative and valuable. So don't underestimate your contribution to the art of sword design.
Everyone (especially people who use it), this design should be named in his honor. The obvious choice is the "Skallagrim Sword", but I bet someone can come up with a better name. So what do people think?
I would think that film-makers would be lined up to speak to you regarding blade design. Clearly, you can make a blade that someone might actually make in history if they wanted it to be effective and yet scary.
As a bit if a weapon nerd: this design is awesome! It would definitely enhance the way I like to wield. As a rather bad writer thank you for the design use
small brain: making wildly impractical fantasy weapons
medium brain: using anachronistic and historically-appropriate weapons side by side in fantasy
big brain: using obscure historical weapons in fantasy to get the aesthetics but sacrificing very minimal practicality
galaxy brain: making hybrid fictional weapons that are both super practical and aesthetically pleasing
I'm putting this in my book, Skall. Thank you for giving me visual reference for a sword I had been trying to imagine. One that was greatly versatile, with devastating cuts and thrusts.
I'll make a slight mod to have the blunt spot on the spine be serrated so it can catch other blades.
That's an awesome sword. I'd love to see more thrust testing. I've often wanted to put a sabre hilt on older swords, I feel like it would improve most older one handed swords
Would've loved to hear a more prologed version with regards to thumb ring and the difficulties with making one.
jajajajaja that joerg reference was gold, nice video bro!
Very nice. Very similar to a design of my own.
Such a cool design really like the nail gaurd and the hooked pommel
There are many Yatagan copies: some khyber knives, bayonets, and even a few custom cutlasses. Thus, I'd not be too surprised if something similar existed. Yatagan are an excellent compromise design giving a very good chop, cut and still a decent thrust.
Regarding your design, I'd want only two changes:
1) a closed D-guard for better durability.
2) a T-spine for further stiffness.
Skall, you really should kickstart your designs to make videos about it! With endurance tests and so on. I'd love to see you designing more stuff and putting it to use/destroying it.
Just make sure you make two of each one, lol. Or maybe three to give one away to Patreon supporters.
You can tell just from looking at it that it's an effective design. I really quite like it, though I admit I have a preference for gilt and embellishment.
I love the slingshot channel ❤️ respect to you skall
I would like to see you design more weapons.👍👍👍
Very nice design
It reminds me of a sweeter version of that Filipino machete you showed way back.
Love the design
Lookin a lot slimmer skall keep up the good work!
Grim grin is such an underrated name. Thank you sir smith. Always bring a smug smile to my face
The fact that the hooked pommel and knuckle guard aren't aligned to one another bothers me more than it should.
It's done for a purpose. If the hook was wider, it wouldn't lock the hand as good, and if the guard was closer to the grip, you wouldn't be able to use gauntlets.
I definitely flinched every time he flicked it around, with that sharpened hook aimed at his own hand. Remove the hook, and it's perfect.
No unscrewing pommel for ending the foe rightly, totally ineffective.
2/10
None can screw you when you pull it out.
Pommel can be a nut on the blade screw easily.
2?? That’s generous! The blade simply exists to distract the opponent from the only deadly part of the weapon, the pommel. With no unscrewing pommel, a sword is literally useless.
Murder-stroking it is then.
@@trapperscout2046 His design still allows to use this technique. But having front of the blade thos wide I would rather go for a solid chop.
He could add like half dozen fake pommels so you could end rightly more enemies at once.
I'm going to make myself one of those
I like the blade design, since it's a ultimately a fantasy design I'd go with a more protective hilt - the British 1895 and 1897 pattern hilts are the first that come to mind, or a cutlass hilt if one prefers a simpler but equally effective design.
I will definitaly make one of those for local buhurt, amazing de sign!
I really like the aesthetic of that sword.
Hello and welcome to the skallsword channel ...
Very cool and beautiful sword man have fun with it also love the idea
Bruh
I somehow just now realized this is basically the same concept I sent for the contest a few months ago. No wonder it didn't make the cut. Skall probably saw it and thought "Cool, but I've done it already!".
Honestly it looks alot like the Desert Saber weapon type in the game Kenshi if you've ever seen it.
Your sword is similar to a design I made up.
I had mine with a hand and a half sword, katana, and scimitar blend.
The overall length of the blade and handle go with the hand and a half sword.
The tip of the blade is more of a scimitar, the curvature is a combination of scimitar and katana, and it has a bit of a recurve. (I dont think as pronounced as yours)
The guard has an s curve to it, but like a katana it widens slightly around the flats of the blade.
The grip is curved within the area your first hand would hold it, and then an extended pommel is added allowing a second hand to grab the grip. The grip is also aligned to the tip of the sword to allow thrusting to be easier.
If you do another sword design contest I wanna submit it.
Would be really interesting to see how many one off custom weapons where designed historicaly in this way, from someone who maybe traveled far back in time. Like the video as always!
I like the point you make about the tip being in line with the hilt. It makes a lot of sense. I always wandered why katanas didn't recurve out like that for more slicing capability
For better edge alignment. You don't really want a cutting weapon to have a leading center of mass.
check out
‘Safe Bedside Table’ - two-in-one design that transforms from a bedside table into a bat and shield. it looks like sth you would own.
Nice! After SG waxed poetic about the yatagan, I'd been considering something like this myself, but I haven't the contacts or the cash to make it reality.
"If you are a fantasy artist feel free to use this design" thank ya very much skall you absolute chad :D
The only thing i feel that this sword lacks to be a "jack of all trades", would be the ability to perform a murder stroke, because i can't see that sword holding up very well against plate armor. The concept of this sword is magnificent, you basically invented some sort of multirole combat aircraft but for a sword, but at the same time you can't have everything to work on a single object all together and be efficient at the same time, if you were to want that sword to be able to perform a murder stroke, probably it would lose other characteristic like hand protection or cutting performance. In any case, grear sword, great concept, interesting design and thumps up to the guy that made that sword, i don't see that being very easy to make. Peace.
For murder strokes (and anti-armor use in general) it pretty much has to be a straight blade, or at least mostly straight.
@@Skallagrim Exaclty, you have pointed that in other videos, that is dangerous to do a murder stroke with a curved blade. The only way that i can imagine to make a murder stroke or other form of anti-armor capability work on this sword in particular would be make the front hand protection a wee bit more thick, join it to the pommel and add some sort of spike on the hand protection, so instead of striking with the guard, you punch with it, like some sort of trench knife. But at the same time, a thicker hand protection could mess with the balance and probably a punch won't be as powerful as the murder stroke, but i suppose that is the fun about discussing about sword designs.
If I were to start out on my mythical quest with one of those at my side and one of Joerg's repeating crossbows on my back, I would be the baddest ass in badass town. That looks like it could decapitate a rogue minotaur with a single blow.
I was looking for a good weapon for the rouge airship captain in my novella, and this is perfect.
I may have to stat this out in D&D - not sure it would be significantly different when it comes down to numbers, but the grimsaber could have some cool flavor text. Maybe I'll make it a one-off magic sword.
The Yatamessaber has returned
I want one of everything !!!!
Looks like Talibong or lawi- lawi design of Visayan swords in FMA. Kudos.
Now we need a two handed version of it
5:52 cheers! I'm still going to credit you in the "special thanks" section though
Looks cool. Can only wonder how a sheath for it would be shaped.
A design similar to khukuri sheaths could work.
Great reference to Joerg!))
Three seconds into a video and I'm laughing my ass off.
well played skallaboy
You need to get that polish szabla! ...western meets eastern in one of the best swords in history ✌️😀