The Sly Cooper Khopesh - How Practical Is It?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- A pole khopesh with mace pommel? Thief's cane? Sickle sword on a stick? Quite an interesting design... So here is my first impression of it.
Won't be able to test it for at least a few months, possibly longer. But I figured I might as well talk about the design features the way I interpret them currently. Pretty cool weapon, although it has one rather dangerous issue...
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Eeeeee! This was a great surprise to come home from work to! It looks amazing!
Thanks again to you and quinn for picking and making this! And I understand that time and places are hard to find for cutting tests.
I'm really glad it turned out good, I didn't really know how the balance and handling would be on the design when it was made cause I'm no smith.
Also idk why but I was worried the moment you had got it that it would wind up causing some problem, glad it was only a minor cut.
I love spears and I'm still kicking myself over not designing a spear, good job you sly artist.
@@Ed_man_talking9 I see what you did there xD
congrats. check out shadiversity. he created a system for carrying a polearm on his back.
Woooo! Congratulations! :D
You are my hero. I have never wanted a melee weapon more than this one. After he tests it and give points to any minor changes, I intend to try my hand at making one or getting one made.
Huh, I always thought Sly’s cane was more of a shepherd’s crook than a blade.
Always. It was a pun on what he himself was.
For some reason I thought you said crook without a r and with a 'c' behind k.
(Yeah, me dumb.)
it's always been more blunt than sharp, it's just that this khopesh was inspired by it
It's more angular in the cutscenes but more C-like ingame. The devs said it was originally inspired by a question mark.
There were some cooper blades though, and I think that included a khopesh. But his cane... was a cane. Lmao
Even as a kid I always thought the hook was too sharply curved to be used in the way it is in the game. Hooking onto things, fair enough. The gap is narrow, but with some precision I could see it. But swinging around once you've done so? That'd require some roundness on the inside, and you have the exact opposite of that. And unhooking it seems like it would require a whooole lot of finesse, and it would likely kill your momentum.
Of course, it's either that or have a less striking and iconic silhouette for your design, so they clearly made the right choice. As for carrying it, just do what Sly does and _never let it go._
Well wasn't the cane rounded to begin with? He used it more like a stick when fighting anyway
Sly also uses it to pick people’s pockets.
Sly just uses it to beat enemies to death with it
You know what really be cool... ratchet’s wretch from ratchet and clank, I know it would be probably be a used primarily as a club, and in game it is used as a club but also as a normal wrench, grab things and it has a electric chain like thing that connects to his wrench head to the hilt to grab stuff from further away and to screw an screw. However I would love it! Even it would be a simple club and looks like a wrench I would LOVE IT!
I'm gonna have it between my teeth like a pirate while climbing
Shad would find a way to wear that thing on his back TRUST ME.
He already has. Just doesn’t know it
You could tie a string to it like he did with a spear, or use the nailcatch he made for longbows. So he's already found to ways to do it
And joerg will find a way to make it into a bolt for a crossbow.
Didnt shad do the god of war harness? So yea, shad has already done it.
YOU KNOW IT! XD
"I haven't done any cutting with it"
*cuts himself with it*
ok so that was a lie
to be fair he does that later in the video.
@@KoscheiMorevna So he jinxed himself then?
He lied to us?!
Disliked, unsubscribed, patreon canceld and now I'm smelting my swords and armor down to ingots!!
@@VioletDeathRei or perhaps a premonition? he knew it would happen and knew what must be done.
I can just hear Tyler’s voice reading that.
Everyone thinks of Sly as a sneaky, harmless, agile thief until you realize he's swinging around a friggin' barbed Kopesh...
It's a cane though. It is for wacking things more than it is for slicing.
Sly’s cane isn’t a blade though, it’s a blunt object in form of a hook.
It's a shepard's crook, not a bladed hook.
Did anybody tell you it's not bladed yet?
:^)
I don't think anyone has said this, but it isn't bladed in the games.
10:30 Skall: ... unless you have like a speciality scabard setup...
"Shad is summoned"
I appreciate this comment so much lol
Skall 10:00 : "Bad carry"
Shad fans : "This means war then!"
Sounds like a video copulation
@@jakubp.6987 "Back Carry"
A basic sheath should work if large enough for the blade to go in and out with the cutout in the metal included.
I have never wanted a blade more in my entire life. Sly Cooper carries it about at the middle in his right hand throughout his games, save for when he is climbing, then he carries it in his teeth.
Sly's actual weapon also isn't a blade but a cane/staff.
@@undertakernumberone1 One could call it a crook... Yeah, just let me get my coat.
If you get a cane type weapon you could also learn some hapkido to go with it.
@@dr.velious5411 I think the large hook blade may interfere with that, but maybe it will just open new possibilities.
I remember that scene where Sly impales a guy on his cane and tears his entire ribcage out. They got away with some crazy E ratings back in the day.
With game that was ?
I have play all 4 of them and i dont remember it
@@anonlvl1957 It was in the cartoon.
Sly Cooper for MK11 when?
@@pedropradacarciofi2517 it was. 13 episodes. It was crazy what they managed to show under E rating. Those mad men.
@@HellNutcase Where/when? All I can find is the series was unreleased.
So this is what Sly Cooper would use if the game was rated R.
Jokes aside I'm loving this.
Well, rated M.
We could use a rated M/18+ Sly Cooper. Worked for Samurai Jack, Turtles, Batman, etc.
Add option to turn off blood and maybe more to solve issues for kids 😂 but foreal Idk if it would be bad at all to have a more mature tone.
However now that I think about it, it already is pretty badass.
Just no cursing and blood. There's already violence and dark tones.
Man I love Sly 2/3. I only ever wanted to play as the bad guys more. Like how they weren't defeated but won over.
Idk if you've watched Mob Psycho, but I love the idea of winning the bad guy over. It worked with Panda King and Dimitri!
A character can be both "good" and cool. I at least personally would enjoy Bentley having more badassery to him.
Like how he can get angry when he needs to. And Murray too.
If it was _RATED R!!!!!_
*insert Ride The Fire here*
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 *LET IT OOOOUT!*
Nah, that's sly's Norse ancestor's weapon. Well, that's what comes to mind when I was watching the video. It still has that cooper 'C' shape in the weapon though it's honestly shaped like a hybrid between a khopesh, a mace, and a battle-axe. All-around a weapon you don't want to mess with, also I could see the barb being used to disembowel an opponent if the "hook" is facing down. The barb would hook around an intestine and would be pulled out with the blade. While the mace pommel could be used to finish off the opponent while they are reeling from the fact that their intestines have been pulled/ripped out. Also when used on the neck there's a good chance that the barb could sever the spinal cord or lacerate either the carotid artery or the jugular vein causing the target to lose blood at a fatal rate.
HELL YEAH, Sly cooper!
Im glad to see it again
@@mr.meowgi9876 I am glad to be able to play it (: and I'm glad you are glad, it's an amazing game, and Gex, jak and daxter, Ty tasmanian tiger, ratchet and clank, spyro the dragon
@@thinksie on which platforms are Sly Cooper games now?
@@rubz1390 PS vita and PS3 for sure, and ps2 also!
Sly cooper trilogy on PS2, Sly cooper HD trilogy remaster on PS3 PS vita, and Sly cooper 4 on PS3 and PS vita
@Ezio Auditore Hehe sure (;
Okay so I understand why you’d say it isn’t a thrusting weapon, but for such a gruesome weapon, disemboweling someone with a large fishhook seems pretty effective to me.
It would get stuck possibly on bones
@@mr.meowgi9876 Disemboweling...bowels...stomach. Not much in the way of bones below the rib cage. *NO snark implied in any way*
@@mr.meowgi9876 so you better be strong enough to get it back lenny
@@mr.meowgi9876 right, but like he said, you could just rip it out or kick your opponent off and that would loose your weapon and then they have a large hole in them and possibly one less rib.
Do you have ANY melee combat experience?
Let's check with centuries of many cultures in history... Maybe someone made it as a weird experiment, but apparently it NEVER survived war "natural" selection because it was not efficient, AT ALL.
Skall: carrying is a problem
Shad: busts through door with rope and nail
I feel like this weapon, as a rough draft, is a cool idea, but it needs some improvements. The "Hook" needs to be reshaped for it to be more structurally sound. The hook looks like it could break really easily if caught on something.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
As a weapon I always saw the cane as a blunt object with sharp edges, it makes a distinct thwack (literally sometimes) when you hit enemies. Of course that was probably just Sucker Punch trying to downplay the implications of a cutting weapon in a kids rated game. Anyway i feel like this thing is a mobility tool first and a weapon second, so it should feel like it could support your weight and a sturdier hook would imply that.
Didn't he say this exact same thing
I was thinking the same thing. I also don't like how the hook's shape is a threat to the user of the weapon too. But it's funny I kinda like it as a whole. If maybe the hook was designed a bit differently.
@@outerheaven155 in the game sly has a cane, it's not sharp at all. this is a blade/mace combo inspired by sly's cane.
"The only difficulty is carrying it"
Shad, get the nail.
yes! i was about to suggest this in the comments until i saw yours!
@@FalchionHawk Agreed - Shad's Nail Catch.
Yo - Shadiversity - Trademark that!
Nail catch would get in a way when handling this weapon. Skall basically uses the entire length, unlike you do with bows.
@@adrianmalinowski1073 Hmmmm, hand grips perhaps, to make things safer.
@@lockwoan01 Shad made a sheath that can do the motion at 10:38, wonder how well it'll work on non-straight blades.
I think it could stand to be a bit longer. Sly's Cane is actually almost quaterstaff length when compaired to his body.
Also worth noting, The Cooper Family uses exclusivly non leathal designs for their signature hook weapons
... Tennessee has a gun for his hook weapon?
@@stardust7780 Stun rounds. Likley precursors to Carmalita's own Shock Pistol.
It's a crook. Just like sly.
Also the coopers, getting guards killed by incineration, drowning, electrocution, explosions, shrinking them out of existence, making them literally disappear, having them fall from great heights, and feeding them to both machinery and wild life alike.
@@commanderblargh6300 Gameplay mechanics. Not lore. Lore wise Sly gets in and out unnoticed and has a showdown with what ever criminal he's robbing. Then Carmaletta busts in, a day late and a dollar short no less, and arrests everyone while Sly and the gang make their big get away.
I sneak into castles and banks, but instead of stealing anything I just use the bathroom.
They call me sly pooper.
You have a cousin in the US Navy, the Phantom Shitter.
That could be an idea for a game.
Is your calling card a floater???
@@ScottKenny1978 Ah, the'ol Phantom Shitter. He haunts every branch of the military. In my experience, he favorites the middle of foot paths.
@@oddvoid yup.
Or you get the fake Phantom Shitter. Cooks made brownies? Roll one into a log and leave in an extra obvious place...
Looks like one that might need a Mk. 2. The concept is very solid but the geometry and parameters might need some tuning :D
I like how people just bring a synthesis of exactly what the youtuber said and act as if it was their personal conclusion.
Yea I'm no smith so I didn't know what the exact measurements would be. Which is why I'm glad quinn filled in the blanks
You know in the Cooper Family,every cooper has a unique cane..this case Khopesh. It could easily turn into a line of weapons
@@majoramakara7050 in Sly 3 you do in fact see his Egyptian ancestor had a Kopesh cane so canonically this could be a real life Cooper ancestral relic.
Exactly what I thought. This was really good for a first attempt. The second one would presumably have different blade so it can be safely gripped and more rounded inside angle so the hook can carry more load without breaking.
Everyone who remembers playing it as a kid, here’s your licensed OG card
Skallagrim you should review how sly uses his cane, you'll have a good laugh.
Sly’s cane is definitely closer to being a blunt object than a blade, wouldn’t you say?
@@andreassmed2255 It is most very obviously a blunt weapon, yes.
All you need for back carry is a couple of strips of that well-known Classical period invention, Velcro.
looks like a nicely versatile weapon can clearly see it be used in various situations especially small areas like alleyways, it would make for a great bandit/thug/thief weapon, as for carrying basically like sly cooper does
Last time I was this early people were still experimenting with iron blades.
I've never been so nervous for Skal's safety in my life.
Aside from the hook, very interesting interpretation of the cooper cane
I would have loved to see him do a cutting test with this
If it was longer it would be an effective defense thrusting weapon, they can't really close the distance or back off.
Yeah, I think a bit of length would solve a majority of issues of the idea. I think that blade style and a mace butt are kinda a perfect formula for a good polearm.
It's a series of good ideas that kinda clash but aaaaalmost work.
@@veraducks I assume you are saying that because you can't use much more reach than that efficiently with a pole-club so that would put the blade well behind one's body.
I feel like if it was just a simple spear tip or maybe a boar-spear for the additional flexibility but more chance of gettng caught, it would probably be more efficient.
@@j.f.fisher5318 Much of halberd combat uses the butt end safely.
In game the cane seems a lil longer than sly, so it does seem like it is something more for defensive than offensive tactics
I have been waiting for this for years. Didn't realize I had been waiting for it, but I was.
As soon as I saw the famous Cooper Cane I was like “SOLD”
"The only difficulty would be carrying this"
Just put it on your inventory 4head.
Yes but you forgot the most important thing. Can you use the hook to steal things from peoples pockets??!!
Take the leg, get the pocket for free.
@@terrynewsome6698 Do you think people will notice if I do it like that? Need to be sneaky about this
@@terrynewsome6698 lfmao xd
A mugging by threatening maybe pickpocketing nope
@@whodis799 nah doubt it. go for it and see how it goes
This isn’t Sly’s cane for the record this appears to be based on the weapon of one of his ancestors from Thieves in Time, Salim al-Kupar of ancient Arabia.
While it may be more similar to that one, the inspiration for this weapon design still came from Sly's cane.
So glad to see Sly getting attention again, this was a great video
This is so cool!
Never in a million years did I think you would cover Sly’s cane in some way! As a MASSIVE Sly Cooper fan, thank you for making my week!
U forgot to mention the gut-hook can be used to hook weapons, shields, and limbs while doing bonus damage
Leave it to Sly to be the only one capable of stealing some blood from Skall
I mean the Mace part could just be for Ramming in doors and such
As for carry, either like a rifle, or carry it on the back with a sidearm of some kind
A new video on my birthday about one of my favorite games, thanks Skall !
Last time I was this early I was still swimming towards an egg, damn
It’s cool to see a video game/fantasy weapon be reviewed. I love it when weapons like this actually have some kind of advantage.
Nothing makes it look more like a fantasy weapon than when you're balancing it on your hand more than halfway down the shaft.
I never knew what it was called till now. Thank you for that.
Looks pretty badass. Design seems like she would cut well.
Cut his shirt p good
Man I remember when this channel was with 200k subs. I am glad for him. Here to say congrats only
So this weapon is best used against targets without any armor. I can see this design being really good for some ancient world battles/battlefield.
Dude this is nostalgic also I feel like this would be a cool apocalypse weapon I want one.
I thought in game it was more like a rounded and mace like just having a general khopesh shape but not a blade
It didn’t but this is a weapon based on the game
We also see several of his ancestors' "canes" incorporated blades
Keep in mind that this is _inspired_ by Cooper's cane. It's by no means a replica.
In the Sly series alone there are alot of very interesting cane designs that are held by Sly's ancestors.
I actually just shouted out loud "YES!!" when i saw this
We need more sly cooper
@@mr.meowgi9876 either a sequel or a remake would be cool
@@just9019 imagine freeroam sly cooper
@@mr.meowgi9876
What? It was freeroam in the last game
Whatever you do, keep Sanzaru away from it. Who the heck puts a QTE as a final boss battle?
Sly 2 Band Of Thieves Is My Favorite Game Of All Time, Thank You For Making This Video.
I thought Sly used a cane. Not a bladed weapon.
He does. Thus "inspired by".
This isn't the original Sly Cooper cane, this was drawn as a design for a melee weapons contest.
Some of his ancestors' were bladed.
In fairness, Sly is just one in a long family history of thieves that range from Ninjas to Pirates... a Cooper probably had a bladed cane at some point in their family history.
@@PhantomSavage the Egypt cooper had a blade. Tennessee also had a gun and the caveman guy had a log thing so lethal weapons not out of line at all for the coopers who have killed many guards in canonical non gameplay related cutscenes or plans
Looks cool as ... looking forward to the cutting tests as and when you can - stay safe guys!!
So, we have named it "The Vulnerable-Joint-Annihilator"?? Elbow Destroyer?
Ligament lacerater
Holy cow. I had not expected skall to know about this game. Hell yeah!!! Sly cooper is awesome!
This would make a great thrusting weapon for a movie. Like just imagine like a troll or something brutally murdering some warrior in the middle of a fight scene by hooking and tearing out his rib! That would be an EPIC shot
I have been waiting years for something like this thanks you
I believe Sly's staff is actually a blunt weapon, tho.
Given the nature of how it’s used in game, I wouldn’t be shocked if it is dull
You didn't plan for this, but you actually managed to showcase what I had in mind for a D&D weapon. You are amazing. And amazing is the guy that made this.
"The Coopesh"
Yay!!! We've been waiting sooo long. Finally it's here. Maybe during testing you could shoot it to test the durability.
Slys khopesh is also not a blade but tubular which would make immensely stronger
Yeah, it's a cane that seems pretty narrow from the actual cutscenes we get, and it's clearly not MEANT for combat. Even in combat he basically just uses it to bash on people like it's a baseball bat.
Of all people, would never have thought you to make a Sly Cooper inspired video haha
This thing is, for all purposes, an ax.
one good way to use the mace would be to "backswing" the hook into an enemies sword to "push/drag" it out of alignment while you step in and butt stroke them good and hard with the mace end , which could leave them open for a nasty hack at the neck/face as you come back into position
I never thought it was a blade. It's called a CANE for a reason.
some of the ancestors in the later game(s?) did use it in a bladed form, on a sword handle mind
but yeah, sly's i think is meant to be about as sharp as a nail(at least one pointy bit but nothing else)
This is hilarious. I had just finally watched the weapon design video and was wondering where this video was
i imagine the pommel could be very effective as a blackjack if you wrapped it. It'd also fit sly's sneaky methods.
Sly Cooper has been and will remain my PlayStation Avatar. One of my favorite games of all time
When you're able to, it would be cool to see you try to adapt some techniques for this weapon in a fight (try hooking and thrusting or really get into the unique features of this blade and its size)
this was really interesting, having played sly cooper for years, it was neat seeing a real life example
I’m a bit out of touch, anyone know what happened to Skall’s house?
they moved to apartment, see some older video for more details
The expenses of owning the house turned out to be significantly higher than he anticipated/expected and maintaining the mortgage and the property were too demanding on top of his schedule, so they sold it.
It ran away from them, unfortunately.
You forgot to jump and press the circle button. Really love the video
I was thinking a rifle but striking move would be good.
Its cool to see my favorite childhood game series get some recognition. As a fan though, I must say the Cooper family CANE is a multipurpose tool that never really prioritized lethality. It's durable enough to make a great weapon but was never sharp enough to end life. That wasn't the idea.
Stay safe, this thing can catch user's private parts!
I look forward to the tests. It looks like it's interesting all around.
Beautifully made but the "blade" needs to be a bit more pronounced but best sly cane made. 👍👍
Agreed. I guess the maker changed it a bit from the game as personal preference or to affect how it handles. I would have done it differently, but I can't smith things 🤷
I really dig the haft and the "pommel". The look and the size just look good.
Saw the thumbnail. Whether it’s good or bad, I’m excited for your review.
I'd 100% say either make it quarter-staff length, or ditch the hook entirely. Every time you go for a pommel strike I wince from how close that hook comes to jabbing you.
A interesting weapon. Keep up the great work and Thank You for all that you do.
I have an idea to launch a sequel. The crew finds Sly cryogenically frozen in a pyramid, along with an ancient evil thief.
I replayed the original 3 sly cooper games 2 years ago and now I’m gonna do it again
akshually... Sly's weapon is not a Khopesh and never handled as such in the games... it's always just regarded as a blunt, concussion causing staff.
Though a Khopesh interpretation... well, interesting, I guess.
Edit: also, Footage from Sly 4? Booo!!! Effin Sanzaru ended that came with a effin Cliffhanger and no intention of resolving it... and a dumb heelturn of a formerly heroic character... until somebody decides to fix that mess, the Series ends with 3 for me! :D
One of Sly's ancestors actually had a Kopesh hook.
@@supremecaffeine2633 That would be Slytunkhamen Cooper I, and pretty much his and his son Slytunkhamen Cooper II used two of them as duel wielding..but they were MUCH shorter in the grip department than Sly's cane..so..a lot different than this thing. Cool idea though I'll give it that..not the most safe for swinging around the mace end though.
@@ShinKyuubi Damn, such a good game.
@@supremecaffeine2633 Ignoring Sly 4... they ended it on a Cliffhanger, a DLC that MIGHT have resolved it was never made, they have no intention of resolving the Cliffhanger... and they had a really unnecessary heelturn.
Yeah, it's not supposed to be a replica of his cane, it's just inspired by it. The design is really a pole khopesh.
These are the important questions we need to be asking
I still don't know why Skall's pfp is a beaver these days.
He’s in Canada, of course it’s a beaver
@@connorwald2016 They're mutating his fursona. I should have known this was inevitable the first time I heard him say "sori".
Canada
because "Dobrze, dobrze, panie bobrze" 100%
As I recall from the Sly Cooper games, he also typically uses his cane one-handed, not two-handed. He only goes to two hands for certain swings (usually the last hit in a combo, or his air attack). Might be worth noting.
Fantasy weapons made by people who CAN'T even imagine the impracticallity of the weapon because knows nothing about real life weapons. But well, Sly is a cartoon.
Sly weapon is different has more hook too it he wasn't talking bout cartoon adaption
To be fair, this weapon/design isnt actually bad. Its not ridiculous but it stylish ; Its strong, but not too heavy. This one definitely gets a pass compared to some other crazy shennanigans.
Well this is based off a cooper cane, it would be better to just use sly’s Egyptian ancestors kopesh.
I would say that in general, pointy bits that point towards the user break the 'pointy end goes towards/into the other fella' rule. Works for fantasy weapons in general.
One view and 17 likes, YT drunk today.
Everyday
I'll be waiting for your video testing this
Cant wait to see tests with the cooper kopesh
Immediately clicked, sly cooper is one of my favorite games!
This opens up a river of memories!
I have always seen Sly's cane as a blade since the edges look angled in the artwork. In the 2016 movie trailer, sparks fly from the cane as he slides down a building while leaving marks so that confirmed it for me. Being a fan for almost a decade, it really thrills my heart to see this weapon come to life.
Funny - Tulok the Barbarian did a Sly Cooper build for D&D 5e - reskinned Tabaxi, 2 levels of Rogue, 18 levels of Shadow Monk. Interesting build, as he broke one of the usual rules of making a character - dumped Constitution..... which oddly enough fits.
“Unless you pull the entire rib out which is gruesome, and effective I suppose.”
Yeah... kind of felt that. Think the balance and grabby nature of it works well with Sky Cooper as a character. Though stealing ribs wasn’t quite what I had in mind.
I don’t know who you are but if you review anything sly cooper you got my subscription
Disarm with the hook(s) then jab like a spear, but slicing with the curved blade along vital points like armpits or necks, using the curvature to guide the blade away from the strike cleanly. It works one-handed like Sly wields it too, but requires a ton of wrist control, not just strength (turning the blade while maintaining downward pressure on the disarm is not very easy if one fulcrum is doing both mechanical actions). In D&D terms, it's a versatile finesse weapon with advantage on disarms. The weight at the less businessy end works like a pool cue widening towards the back more than as a second weapon head.
Great vid Skall, much love mate