For those asking, this is not an exposé video, this is a timeline of H3 focusing on Ethan, it showcases both good and bad things about him Also I brought on the same editors from the last video and I think they've definitely captured a bit more of my style with this video, let me know what you think
Too late for this comment - I've already watched it with totally different expectations and subsequent disappointment 😹 Wish you made it clear earlier, cause the cover was kinda misleading
@TP almost every creator seems to have keem in various drama videos... Like him or not he keeps himself relevant no matter how much people don't want him to be And to think you could make a comprehensive H3 video without Keem is laughable
this is what i always like about your videos. the titles may be “the rise and fall” but it’s never a smear campaign or hate video. you just give an in-depth rundown of everything. great work as always.
@@treyvonishere4375 it’s all a shit show, i get ya completely. i’m just sayin the point of this video and this channel is more of like i said, a sorta rundown of his career as a whole, not just his faults and i think joon covered things pretty well
People need to understand that more and understand that no one is perfect and everyone should be able to get criticism and be criticised. Even harsh criticism, because if you are to enjoy something, you must acknowledge it's flaws too
youtube drama is such a weird concept when you realize it parented an entire generation at this point. Grown men getting into moral spats for clout raised a non-insignificant portion of today's youth lmaoooo
That on top of the schools' knee-jerk reaction to teen depression and self-esteem issues resulting in them essentially teaching a bunch of kids that they never have to change and are perfect the way they are instead of giving them tools to adapt and cope with an uncaring world that isn't made to cater to them. Now we have not only people that constantly seek drama for self-validation but are entirely entitled and lack basic life skills that allow them to face and survive in the real world.
Ethan was funny, but he’s never been that smart. I fell off his content when he shifted to opinionated stuff. I found it shallow and often mean spirited, and Ethan’s ego rubbed me the wrong way
I was giving him a pass even with this but I left when he said in the podcast that his viewers stuck with him for years but just because he said something they don’t like, they leave. Don’t blame the viewers for turning on you because you kept avoiding criticism while continuously doing it to people. I don’t know if he changed but seeing that version of Ethan was insufferable especially because he was a humble face for TH-cam fame.
As someone who is both a fan of jontron and someone who never watched this podcast before, to me it was immediately apparent just how uncomfortable Jon was in the clips shown. And I don’t just mean a little discomfort, I mean that I personally was experiencing secondhand discomfort from watching Jon be uncomfortable. How Ethan couldn’t have picked up on that is beyond me.
The ultimate decline of H3 was when they started the podcast. It was then that people realised that Ethan, in an unscripted, live format is actually a bit of an arse.
Try a huge arse hahaha. I watched his first few and loved the one with post malone because it felt very calm and respectful. The other ones however were horrible, ethan is constantly interrupting his guests and his unfiltered opinions are so ass hahahahah.
32:30 let's not pretend the REAL reason wasn't money. The podcast was far easier to make, took little effort, and sponsorship money made them quite literally multimillionaire nearly overnight
@@ultimonx9152 I'm completely serious, if i was offered my dream job with enough money my kids would never even have to work I'd have to say no. Only sell outs would accept that, true blooded Americans must struggle to afford basic amenities
I feel like it’s fair for Ethan to not have known Bill would get that upset over asking “How many siblings do you have?” Directly after Bill offers up the information that he had a huge family growing up unprompted.
It’s because after Bill expressed he didn’t want to get too personal Ethan kept pressing for more information. Bill didn’t automatically get upset, only after Ethan kept pressing for more info.
Bill was just being a doucebag lol someone knowing he has sibling does nothing to his life lol he’s been famous for nearly 20 years at this point hahaha
@@okilladmityouarerightbut4827 Yea but if you pay attention he’s kinda a paranoid guy. He talks about serial killers and government conspiracies as jokes in his comedies, but he does to an extent believe those things. He probably doesn’t want to talk about his family because of his slight paranoia. Either way, Ethan should respect anyone’s wishes on his show to not talk about some things.
@@googleisevil8958 It's funny how he hates Keemstar, and h3h3 has became almost like Keemstar, and alot of h3h3's fans have become like Keem's fans. Both were protected by TH-cam for too long, More h3h3 than Keem
I remember one of Ethan's "bad take" from a podcast episode with Post Malone and joji, he said something like: "women, in a nature setting, are made to be conquered". Then joji made a face that was *so* funny, it was the perfect rendition of 😬 *Edit* to be exact, the correct quote is “women, in a nature setting, are like… to be conquered”. Someone named Laura posted the video I’m talking about in the thread 😌 *Edit 2* pls don’t assume I’m agreeing with/I’m offended by Ethan’s take, I just mentioned the quote because it was in the title of the video, what actually mattered here was joji’s funny face.
Joji's face was funny but Ethan was right in that istance, he meant it in a savage nature settings, and it's exactly how it worked for millenia before civilized society It's not a controversial statement, it's just how history was
@@GroovyLeon if that’s what you think then that’s exactly how you say it, not the way he said it. The way he said it doesn’t mean anything to be fair haha
@@GroovyLeon It's just a really creepy, ownership and domination-influenced way of saying "men seek women for their own" or something similar real onision, armoredskeptic tier phraseology imo
@@corndog756 She's definitely not the same level of insufferable as Ethan, but she's there parroting the exact same sentiments and such, so she's just as much of the problem as Ethan is.
For the first few minutes of this I had to keep reminding myself I wasn’t watching a JCS Psychology video and that I did not have to fear for Ethan killing Hila.
That's easy to answer. It's because Ethan deserves to feel depressed and broken after everything he's ever done. Pushing agenda on kids and being a complete scumbag his whole podcast career it's funny to see him suffer.
Before the diehard fans mass-dislike this, they need to realize that no single e-celeb is this infallible entity. Joon presents unbiased information regarding the highs and lows of youtube careers, that doesn’t mean it’s meant to “destroy” ethan today. And regardless of how bad other e-celebs are (keemstar, trisha) it doesn’t change the fact that Ethan has also done his fair share of chaos.
IMO Ethan is just a normal dude. He’s made normal mistakes and is completely unfiltered which I appreciate. He’s never ruined anyone’s life or career and always took accountability for his mistakes which is all you could ask for. I understand that the teenage boy audience he once had prefers the more edited jump cut and strictly wannabe edgy content so they may not like the unfiltered unedited and wide spread of topics his content offers now. But simply not liking the direction a creator has made is not enough to solicit the type of hate he’s been getting lately. There are creators who have done some vile shit and not only haven’t taken accountability for any of it but refused to grow up and change. I’ve seen Ethan do the contrary so I can’t hate 🤷🏻♀️
@@saraha2525 See, you're undermining his guilt by saying "normal mistakes" and that his previous audience was "teenage boys" and "strictly wannabe edgy." Ethan has never taken accountability until he receives backlash. Ethan's switch to Unedited/unfiltered just allowed his audience to see how he reacts in real time, which wasn't exactly the most admirable or funny compared to the actual jokes and planned videos he made in the past. Content creator controversy has spawned this kind of hivemind that says if a celebrity hasn't committed some unquestionable racism, sexual assault, or scam, that they're still an admirable figure and good personality.
The other thing is that these issues are only super apparent beacause his career relies on hour long pieces of content instead of editable 11 minute videos
I like how he tried to legitimately use "I psychologically shut down when faced with criticisms" as a defense for not acknowledging criticisms directly.
Hearing that made me feel a little sick. I get potential PTSD responses from childhood trauma(if that is his struggle), but that is something you can acutally work on and is not an excuse to be a piece of shit.
@@Martin-kl7xk That's the thing, I can't say for sure of course but the way he says it makes it sound like it's just something he's came up with and wasn't actually diagnosed and is using that to shield himself from criticism.
Plus the fact that he can dish out criticism every two to three business days but as soon as he receives criticism it’s bad. Like if you can’t take criticism then maybe you shouldn’t be giving out criticism???
Mean a lot of people were just superficially liking eachother lol. Same on twitch when everyone moved in with Soda. These were alliances of convenience, nothing to last.
I like how TH-cam was about broadcasting yourself and now it's run by a pro-feminotsee woman who censors speech, promotes late night hosts who are anti-democracy and sucks the D of big corporations while removing information from a search engine... I still have hopes for Odysee but they really need to get on fixing the UI and shortcuts.
The interview with William (the beanie guy) is always the saddest part for me. He seemed like a cool, intelligent guy and didn’t deserve that treatment.
youre reading way into things lmao. William even said it was cool bc he was only planned for a short interview and they even hung out after the show ended that day... stop believing every TH-cam "expose" video.
@@flapjackpancake5486 yes! I was watching him every week for months before the podcast. I thought he was hilarious and i loved his videos. However, all his stupid jokes or opinions could be edited out. You don’t do that with a podcast. Immediately, his real side was shown. It was a complete 360 from what I thought he was like. I know every celebrity has a persona but wow 😅
The case of H3H3 is a perfect example of why I almost always question the questionable things big TH-camrs say or do, no matter how innocuous they may seem. It can be an early sign that the TH-camr you love might not be the golden boy/girl you thought they were. Very rarely are the things we see in videos accidental, because otherwise they could just edit it out. Very often they are fully intentional.
@@Northernheros I wasn’t saying I think anyone is flawless. Like I said, whenever a TH-camr with even the slightest bit of experience accidentally says or does something they didn’t intend to, they would just edit it out before posting. As such, virtually everything that happens in published video is fully intentional, and when something suspicious is still present, it should be questioned. Mistakes absolutely do happen, we usually just don’t see them. And also like I said, there are occasional exceptions to that.
@@Northernheros Dude, for many of these big creators, TH-cam is their job. Proofreading videos is just part of that. Most of them aren’t *really* normal people (usually terminally online like both of us), despite how relatable they may seem. Once again, visible mistakes happen, but they are rare.
his mum is dopey and senile she makes it too annoying and stupid to watch he needs to stop that podcast like dude just stop being so money hungry it ain't working
@@babe1er where do u get off calling a sweet and unproblematic older woman, ‘dopey and senile’. if being kind and (again) unproblematic bothers u, just don’t watch - plenty of h3 fans just like seeing donna enjoy herself. what a strange take.
@@babe1er huh? Ethan's mum is really nice and entertaining to watch. That's not being "dopey" or "senile", it's called being a sweet kind person. She reminds me of my own Nana. Maybe your own mum hits you and curses you out all the time, and that's the kind of mother you're used to so you can't relate??
He always struck me as a guy who just gave up a long time ago and who deflected any criticism by being self righteous and critical of others. Right or wrong, it's sad to see such an obviously depressed person enabled just enough to tolerate his own perpetual misery and never evolve.
It's funny that everyone that knows nothing about him from knowledge they've garnered from outside sources has this take lmao. He admits he's wrong constantly, is always trying to grow and has been very open about battling his depression and weight gain. He's now lost pretty much all the weight and is a much better place. Sure if you don't think he's funny that's fair enough but he's not a bad guy in anyway, treats his employees and fans really well. Your comment is ignornace incarnate.
Hila wants to do fashion, Ethan wants to have 6 podcasts that are all just starting drama and bitching about other people because his creativity for skits ran out by the time vape nation was days old.
I don't remember when I stopped watching but I guess a year or two ago after he stopped making regular content and I had seen the first few podcasts but it is pretty sad to see how bitter and miserable he seems to have become.
@@Nadaters All the while being richer and more successful than ever, bro you're a millionaire about to have a second kid with your wife who gives a fuck about youtube drama every week grow upppppppp. His insults in every single beef is calling the other guy gay
@@ChichiNaka You sound like a child. I have no idea what you thought you was proving but your reply was idiotic.Her point is very valid and in line with a lot of peoples views on him, perhaps you should get up off your knees, zip Ethans pants, wipe your mouth and try growing up
man’s couldn’t even defend his wife when trisha freaking paytas called her the C word. what a chode. hila if you had the stones you’d leave him for that lol.
@@blankblank4522 It's not necessary, but sometimes it's the only coverage to go off of. Like how in the Call Me Carson situation a while back, the primary sources of information, Carson's friends, decided to bring it directly and only to Keem for God only knows what reason, and most of the comment section was made up of "This is the only Drama Alert I've ever had to watch" or "I can't believe I actually have to come here to learn about what's happening," a sentiment I wholeheartedly shared.
I just can't feel sorry for Keemstar, in any way shape or form. As always though Joon, you make some of the best content, along with fredrik knudsen. Hope LTG has left you alone finally.
@@ikaeye actually i think his wife just left him. and he had a total mental breakdown on twitter. But specifically I'm referencing his part in this video, being called out by Ethan. What he did to RSGloryandGold is unforgivable. the old dude still gets harassed due to keemstar every so often.
@@ExarchGaming they've all messed up big time, as long as his intentions weren't to do what he did I think he deserves to be forgiven in the end, also I don't think he gets harassed much if at all nowdays, the internet moves on fast
From what I remembered Ethan had Sean (Jacksepticeye) on as a guest on the podcast, but there’s a clip of him asking about Septiplier (a ship between Sean and Markiplier) and asked him how he felt about it…despite multiple times he’s said he found it uncomfortable about being shipped with his friend. What made the interview awkward was when Ethan read a paragraph from a saucy fanfiction, most notably the aftermath. From there I think Sean was uncomfortable for the rest of the time. I don’t know if Ethan does this on purpose to make the podcast more interesting or if he’s unaware of what he’s doing or what people’s reaction would be to the question but this stuck out in my mind as a awkward moment on the podcast. Edit: Thanks for 1k likes 😊
@ViegosWife come to think of it I know a few people who ask uncomfortable questions to people, I’m a bit like that at times, but they always seems remorseful and apologetic once they realise what they said. Ethan just to just carry on and doesn’t seem to apologise for it. I also just realised that most of the guest come on once before never coming back, I understand that some are across seas and can’t have a one on one interview but others in the area didn’t come back.
I swear he watched compilations of Howard Stern asking guests fucked up questions and thought he could do that without taking into account 1. The guest's comfort level 2. Howard generally easing into the more controversial questions and 3. Having the capabilities to actually socialize with guests
Yeah he often pushes things too much with people. As much as I don’t like Trisha he did it with her too a lot, especially in the early days of Frenemies. I feel like he’s always giving AB (crew member) a hard time too.
It was pretty nice seeing the timeline of the golden years when I first subscribed to h3, the broke/reaction/skit era was pure gold. I jumped off the H3 train before it totally crashed.
Listened to this while I was working (being a janitor has its perks). It's definitely worthy of listening to in the background like it's a documentary, but for TH-cam stuff.
@@halocraft204 I’m a og fan and I don’t really hate him. I rarely watch his new content tho. I think h3h3 changed with the new climate because everyone complains about everything nowadays
I still like him, i dont always agree with him and he makes an ass out of himself sometimes but I think he’s generally a good guy Tho I don’t watch most of his new content, not really my thing (frenemies was the best thing to happen on a while and thats done with now. Love his mom, but she’s not the best suited for co-host)
@@whh5938 yeah exactly, i dont hate him either but he has an entirely new audience derived of hating other people when the content the older fans used to enjoy was just him goofing around
@@sakurabluesx His original sense of humor derived from Tim & Eric, Eric Andre, etc. is what got them to where they are. Vape Nation, Ainsely Harriot vids, the Bradberry saga, goofing on Prank Invasion, etc is what got h3h3 multiple millions of subs.
I think the most insane thing is that Ethan said he doesn't target anyone for their political affiliations. Boy did that shit change HARD in recent years lol.
Once Ethan got political I abandoned all hope for him. Seemed like he went out of his way to have the most boneheaded take on literally any given situation. Dumb people with a massive audience is a dangerous thing.
@@notjimpickens7928 ya'll have like zero understanding how important that lawsuit was for almost all TH-cam creators. It set a legal precedent that gives fair use exceptions for copywritten material.
@@schloop687 completely different issues, and mentioning GFuel when talking about Keemstar isn't "going after people's sponsors" it's going after one incredibly bad person's sponsors, and he barely even did that lol
Hahaha, that's a joke, right? I've rarely seen such levels of butthurt. The comments are great too. Low IQ, seething excuse making and insult flinging. I even saw some posts in all CAPS hahaha
Oh they're there.. Plenty of them for a collective eye-roll and a chuckle anyway.. But since his fanboys have slowly continued to dissipate over time, the sparsity of their comments mean they're getting lost in the mix.. And all of our eyeballs/brainpower are the better for it ✌🏽
I completely forgot "NGL, this is definitely me when I'm driving" was SoFlo. I still say it from time to time and I thought my brain just dreamed it up one day. What a different era of TH-cam and social media in general
@@belloutdoors5217 Yeah yeah we get it you love your H3H3 its cool bro don't have to defend him he's a big boy and he's already married I know you're in love with him.
The h3h3 channel yes. But the podcasts are actually enjoyable until that trash piece Trisha joined, they’re back to better podcasts now, but I hope they get better. They really did make my days and make me laugh, kind of sad seeing what’s happening to them now. not simping, I love them, but the dramas are not good for anyone or anything…
Personally I never liked him. He had his humorous moments/videos but his personality always rubbed me the wrong way, as he always felt too pretentious. This really progresses over time as the "power of influence and fame" got to his head.
For real, I always felt drained watching them. Him and the girl always seemed low Intel and low vibrations. It was just them complaining about other channels and being smug is the "humor". Also they made toddler sized sex dolls and sold them and gave them away to fans, which really infuriated me. Ok make the Dunham joke, but don't make sex dolls for pedos
He is using his power for good - showing how trisha has bpd and humanizing her, exposing David dobrik and s3xual assault claims, etc. No one is willing to do that except him and I respect that
Someday, scientists hope to understand why anyone gives a shit about anything Keemstar has to say. It may take several more generations of rigorous research.
I disagree I think people just fall for the narrative easily. Me actually following ethan and his podcast, I'd say most of the major criticism against him is overblown and partially fueled by far right people who used to watch him for his SJW videos
@@richardcheese4680 yeah that video is horrible. It's not well put together and he makes a lot of arguments in bad faith. He's even gone to retract certain points for that reason
It was completely reasonable to push him on it. Jontron is a complete moron who got obliterated on a topic he didn't know about, and then doubled down on it and thought a friendly relationship excused him from criticism. Glad he was uncomfortable, wish he was even more so.
@@thomwav imagine being so spineless you can't pushback against literal ethnostaters because it makes you uncomfortable. Ethan was only halfway there, that's my only criticism tbh.
I suppose that is what happens when you put average people like yourselves on a pedestal. A few admittedly mild slip-ups practically erased his OG following and put his reputation in shambles, yet people like Keem still reign supreme in the commentary community. I assume this is because Ethan was respected among TH-cam as a whole, but folks like Leafy and Keemstar never had much of a good reputation to begin with.
H3H3 was the biggest help for me when I was fighting depression, seeing an upload would instantly safe my day and would lead me to watch earlier videos again. Now I cannot even watch their podcast, feels like completely different person(s)
As soon as they got that sweet Susan love the game changed completely. Ethan knows what he is doing, that Buzzfeed audience he once mocked is now his main target demographic.
"You don't have to talk about this if you don't want to." "Okay, I don't really want to get into it." "Okay. I'm just wondering about your journey." "Yeah, I just want to put it behind me." "Did you regret it?"
@@JoonTheKing I can't wait to check it out I hope it's in the description... but if not probably easy to find... another fine piece of work many loves to you
@@JoonTheKing Both you a Gokunaru dislike Ethan and thusly made very flawed videos with distorted narrative of the events that lead to an erroneous conclusion. But atleast your video wasn't as much of a stretch as that terrible Gokunaru video.
In a comedic format, with editing and commentary on someone far more outrageous than him, Ethan truly was funny. Suddenly he has people working under him, has a kid, doing an opinionated unedited podcast with abstract and often more serious subject matter, and it's like his insecurities and ego become something to build and protect against criticism rather than to deprecate and use for comedy. It was so awkward to hear him talk about how exercise is a conspiracy and waste of time while Hila just sits there and cringes
It's really interesting seeing the explanation behind what I as a fan was feeling and noticing which ultimately led me to watch h3h3 less until finally unsubbing and even disliking content.
Same, Ethan went down such a SJW rabbit hole too. He truly became the biggest hypocrite. He used to be a voice of reason for youtube, and now hes selfish, entitled, and a hypocrite. I unsubbed to all channels a year or so ago. I also hated the way he treats his staff. Also I always got the feeling Hila was so ungrateful or appreciative of the fans of their channels. I also am against people blowing money on stupid ass shit, like a 9 million dollar mansion. There is never a reason for a three person family to live in a 9 million dollar mansion. You can still live lavish, but buy a damn one story house for a million or something.
I like how unbiased this documentary is, just straight facts. I personally do think Ethan is a hypocrite and he has spread misinfo. I don’t think he is a genuinely terrible person though.
He's just a poor soul that has his best parts of his personality changed once more $$$ and petty drama-milking are involved for relevancy, hence this is why there's mentions of Israel Ethan, NYC Ethan and even pre-Podcast Cali Ethan was the best Ethan's eras Not to mention his audiences are mostly tea channel cancer which might be less edgy, but so much talk about junk and useless things, which I understand to how many old fans of him found it infuriating to listens to their tripe or read their comments
@@Petdub Just admit you guys don't have an argument against the valid criticism of Ethan, and you parrot this lame talking point. It's like y'all are mentally stuck in 2016 with that "lul you're an anti s-jay-wubya!" crap. Grow up.
@@Aqua4044 they were tho, that was a response to last sentence in the last persons statement, and honestly it’s true 2016 was around the height of that type of content, looking back at it the videos don’t really age well. They were really cringe.
I’m a fan of Ethan still but I’m glad that theres people that don’t hate blindly just because what everyone else says and thinks he’s the worst person alive
Incredibly well made video. This is my introduction to your videos - I’m a fan instantly. I was an h3 fan for like 7-8 months when the reaction videos were really taking off, naturally stopped caring after the shtick got more popular and wore its welcome out, never made it to the podcast era. But thanks to your blood sweat and tears I’m all caught up on this vein of TH-cam lore. Salute
The JonTron episode was SO hard to watch, he's SO uncomfortable and obviously upset and Ethan just would not stop. Ethan just wanted to look like the good guy, this episode put the nail in the coffin for me with H3H3
JonTron is a bigot, and the only reason this is tolerated is because his fans are also bigots. But of course, Ethan's fans are also bigots, which is why they're upset that he's not supportive of bigotry. (Unless it's Palestinians, of course; then it's totally okay to be a bigot.)
@@AT-qw9cq Look up the GameRant article entitled "A Brief Breakdown of the JonTron Racism Controversy". If you don't think arguing in favour of white nationalism is bigoted, then you're probably a bigot too.
@@kaitlynm9463 Post Malone is really busy, there’s a clip from a podcast where Post and Steve O are talking about H3 and what a great guy he is and Post said he wanted to get in touch again.
I don't even want to defend Ethan's older interviews as he for a fact needed a lot of improvement then, but I don't get why people have a problem with the jontron interview, he had been exposed as having white nationalist views so I feel like making him uncomfortable about that fact isn't the wrong thing here
@@Cream12345Ice he’s clearly embarassed of his actions and is doing his best to change his views and steer his actions away from that but Ethan only wanted the controversy to entertain his viewers. It would be fine if Jon had no remorse, but he did and Ethan took advantage of it.
@@lesarch He doesn’t seem that regretful, if you actually listen to him. Him talking more just made it clear that he wasn’t even sorry, he just didn’t want to look bad.
H3H3's real downfall and point of no return was that he became a "holier-than-thou" person towards anything controversial. He got preachy about topics he knows little to nothing about, and turned into a political talking piece to appease his new audience. I feel as he progressed towards being not self-aware and virtue signaling, he surrounded himself with a friend group and audience that if he didn't stop pandering to, his career would be ruined. And that's what we're seeing now of him.
H3 is still somehow living proof, that if your competition is lame enough, and the bar is set low enough, you, as well, can make a living with little effort and few skills.
For starters just watch idubbbz's content cop on keemstar. It's informative and also hilarious. Not many youtubers make videos about Keem cause he has a history of rabidly attacking anyone who criticizes him in the slightest. People doesn't want that stress, so they just ignore keem for the most part.
Honestly, I'm pretty sure he's always "in character." Just playing a more elevated version of himself for show. Some parts, he's being more real (not out-of-character) and just answering more seriously without schtick, but it really isn't some whole facade.
Ethan came up being a clown, an entertainer. He ended up thinking that people loved him for passing judgement with his statements and takes. This was his big mistake, he should have stuck to being an entertainer, now he is just another soapbox grifter.
Id say those are the ones that keep complaining Ethans changed. Everyone is so mad he changed and want him to be like what he use to be in the glory days. Yall need to learn people grow up so either u do the same or stay bitching 🤷🏿♂️
i wondered why you didn't cover the frienemies/trisha paytas saga and realized that it's _still_ ongoing and that everything's just so damn confusing, great job on making this vid cohesive tho
Because seeing Trisha would make the majority of people watching this barf all over their phone or computer, meaning they cant watch his videos anymore
I usually don't watch long videos about TH-camrs 'drama' but you do a great job of presenting the information. I couldn't stop watching and now I'm subbed! I really appreciate people who present information without a bunch of bias.
I watched H3 up until that point, and quit after I didn’t even really know why, and then I started seeing the hypocrisy videos and it hit me. The Bill episode showed me who he really was and unconsciously just drifted away. And it’s funny how he’s against bullying when he’s friends with Tom segura who makes fun of mentally disabled on his podcast.
I'm a huge fan of Ethan and H3, but I am also equally Ethans biggest critic because I like his content and wanna see the guy own up to his flaws and be better. This stuff always entertains me. It's healthy to have different perspectives on people before u totally "idolize" them.
I'm a Foot Soldier as well, and I totally agree with you. I learned new stuff about Ethan being a hypocrite, but he and the crew are just so wholesome, funny, and down-to-earth that overwhelms the "bad side" of Ethan. Many deny it, but Ethan has definitely grown.
@@jonazWC eh idk I wish he would admit to his mistakes more tho. Now with the keemstar stuff arising again he needs to apologize for being rude to keem in the first place. He invited the guy on his podcast and acted nice only to then say he hates keemstar. Keem is a horrible guy I mean his behaviour is vile, but Ethan apologizing for where he was wrong would be the right thing to do.
@@StarryNightxx at this point!? NO WAY. I mean maybe back then an apology would’ve been warranted, despite keem being horrible, but now!? Keem tried to smear campaign Ethan for a long time, insulted his wife and harassed her on social media (when she wasn’t involved at all), and is a general SA apologist. The man doesn’t deserve anything now. Especially for something so stupid so long ago.
It's odd. Pretty much almost every controversial thing he was involved in, I felt like "what? That's it? Who cares?" None of it bothered me or felt deserving of the hate. YET... I just cant help but not like 2022 Ethan. I tried to go watch, and hes just unlikable. Bad takes, bad attitude. So its like.. I dont necessarily agree with every step of the way, but when looking at the sum of its parts.. not a fan.
Most of the people who dislike him are former fans like myself who are contrasting who he was back in 2014 where he seemed genuine but never took things too seriously. He would never have become famous doing the thing he's doing now and he's riding the coattails of his legacy to stay relevant
Yeah I felt the same way it’s like it wasn’t like he did one bad major thing but it was the continuous bad takes and unfunny jokes that didn’t hit and his poor attitude to guests and lately his rudeness towards his crew it rlly stArts to get unbearable to watch
Agreed. I stuck by their side for so long, I own Teddy Fresh, got a holiday shirt to support the crew, but 2022 H3 was the nail in the coffin for me. I can’t stand Ethan’s constant hypocrisy, his holier than thou attitude. Even Dan - who I used to love - is insufferable. They really became the thing they fought against. Everything is filled with vitriol, hate, and such mean-spirited energy. They’re bullies and that’s really all you can call them. I unsubbed a few months ago and while I’m sad one of my favorite creators is gone from my life, I do think it has improved in their absence.
@@unintentional_smile why do say they are bullies? I stopped watching them when they made the podcast. I watched frenemeies sometimes but i struggled to do so. It was boring imo.
@@thewolfstarfire Click on any video they’ve done in the last year (even less, the last month) and you’ll see what I mean. Leftovers is just a way for Ethan and Hasan to bully conservatives. I’m progressive but I don’t agree with the way they go about that show. It’s always mean-spirited and filled with hate, and it makes the Left look just as toxic as the Right, and it’s all just virtue signaling anyway. H3TV, After Dark, and Off The Rails have become indistinguishable from one another. Just look at the title and thumbnails. It’s the same thing every time. Target someone they don’t like (Jordan Peterson, Keemstar, Ryan Kavanaugh, James Charles, David Dobrik, etc etc), make fun of some aspect of their life (their appearance, their house, their speech, whatever), and then react to viral internet things. I really was such a big fan but I couldn’t take the toxic, negative, meany energy anymore. It’s always the same. Always.
no sweety, the algorithm simply pays more attention to youtube reports from youtube accounts with over 50k subs. no one called susan. whereas ethan actually did meet with susan, and later admitted that he spoke to her about certain channels. you don't flag a video by emailing or calling someone.
The problem with Ethan was, as everyone says, he grew too much of an ego when he won that law suit. Now he thinks that because he's politically correct _and_ won against people who were trying to silence fair use, somehow that fits _him_ as a result. It really does feel like he tries hard to speak about current issues, but is so deluded by it that it just makes him look insensitive or worse, a shitty human being.
My biggest issue with Ethan Klein is that he speaks like he's an authority on subjects he has no clue about, he just makes shit up as he goes, and irresponsibly spreads this misinformation to his audience. I guess that's always a danger when you feel you just don't have to try anymore. His success has bred a lazy narcissism in him. He's convinced he's right, about everything, and this smug egotism makes him insufferable to endure. Ethan Klein has essentially become the exact kind of creator that he used to tear down himself.
@@n0rajun3 he was called out by Karl Jobst for not doing any research in the final part of Dream’s speedrun drama, thereby spreading misinformation. You can come to your own conclusion about wether or not Dream is lying, but you must do it will all the facts set straight.
@@nukclear2741 The thing is, Ethan does that with literally every single topic or person he covers, not just Dream. It's everything. Almost every single thing he's ever talked about is just as full of hot air as his take on Dream was. It's honestly kind of impressive that a single human being can be that wrong about so many different things. You'd figure he'd eventually say something insightful and/or correct just by chance.
My take on the FUPA fund: I believe that they did use all of the money in the fund but the reason why I think they should take a lot of heat over it is because they should have payed it forward and after the lawsuit was over they should have put like 100k into it to thank the community for standing behind them. When your able to buy a 9mil dollar mansion you should throw 100k of that into the FUPA fund, thats just greedy.
@@ErinJeanette the waste of a being that is LowTierGod. Check out Joon's vids, I think he uploaded a video fully showing how bad it's been within the last few videos
He can certainly criticize people for making the same mistakes as him but he loses me when he completely condemns them and takes such a high ground acting so self righteous. If he was more generous with giving people the benefit of the doubt then I feel like he wouldn’t get so much backlash.
Definitely. I think it only counts as a contradiction though if you flip-flop, if you change your opinions or behaviors in light of new information that's just called growth.
Fortunately "cancelling" people never actually works. Putting stock in or looking up to youtubers is no better than idolizing celebrities- at the end of the day, they're just people. People grow and change. And when you reach a high level of success, where you're financially comfortable, it changes you. Your struggles and worries are different than they once were. Not condoning anything here- just a different perspective.
God I loved them so much back in the day, humor, charisma and entertainment was omnipresent in their content but now they're just a shell of the creators they used to be. Now they make podcasts that feel like eating meat from a can. Corporate and tasteless. Frenemies was at least interesting.
The humor he has within the podcasts is the exact same as his humor before, only now he's making fun of people like Jordan Peterson which so many of his previous fans worshipped so now they're all butthurt.
@@dylanschmeichel2008 It isn't at all. Ethan thinks he is some intelligent philosopher. When he is some radical left nutjob. The dude was funny then became what he always truly was. A POS. He can't take any criticism and he is a even crappier version of crappy howard stern.
you reminded me how cute ethan and hila and their story was, but also that the time i enjoyed their content was such a small moment in time. i got on board when reaction vids got them trending so before 100k
This video reminded me why I stopped watching him. I felt myself slipping back into liking him because of the fact that he’s “exposing Trisha” (even though I already didn’t like Trisha). I do think he got super lazy & entitled. I wish he would go back to making his content like he used to, but we already know he won’t because he loves living the high life now & won’t risk losing sponsors.
That's the irony though. He exposed Trisha after the fact of working with her. He used her as a scapegoat from the start. What a great way to divert criticism when you have someone with even worse takes than you sitting exactly to your right. And probably knowing things were going to hit the fan at some point, he was guaranteed to come out of it looking like the "moral" one.
For those asking, this is not an exposé video, this is a timeline of H3 focusing on Ethan, it showcases both good and bad things about him
Also I brought on the same editors from the last video and I think they've definitely captured a bit more of my style with this video, let me know what you think
i’ve nearly finished it. The video is so well made, unbiased and educational. Thanks for the time you put into your videos ❤️
Ethan went from buffoon to absolutely based 💪
Too late for this comment - I've already watched it with totally different expectations and subsequent disappointment 😹 Wish you made it clear earlier, cause the cover was kinda misleading
Even if it's not an expose, you certainly titled it like one.
Now do a Tragic Rise and Fall of Chris Chan, Normie.
It’s absolutely wild that you literally can’t tell a TH-cam story with out Keemstar
True lmao
He and dsp will outlive this platform like cockoroach's.
It's cuz he inserts himself into every fucking thing
Well cancer tends to spread
@TP almost every creator seems to have keem in various drama videos... Like him or not he keeps himself relevant no matter how much people don't want him to be
And to think you could make a comprehensive H3 video without Keem is laughable
With peace and love, Ethan has looked middle aged his whole life
With peace and love id still hit
@@devina8812 with peace and love, i agree
get out
For real. I was kinda shocked to discover he was only 36…I assumed he was in his forties
With war and hate, I agree
this is what i always like about your videos. the titles may be “the rise and fall” but it’s never a smear campaign or hate video. you just give an in-depth rundown of everything. great work as always.
It should be a smear campaign and hate video
@@treyvonishere4375 i don’t think that’s this channel’s goal tbh
@@chlothes At this point, Ethan totally deserves it.
@@treyvonishere4375 it’s all a shit show, i get ya completely. i’m just sayin the point of this video and this channel is more of like i said, a sorta rundown of his career as a whole, not just his faults and i think joon covered things pretty well
People need to understand that more and understand that no one is perfect and everyone should be able to get criticism and be criticised. Even harsh criticism, because if you are to enjoy something, you must acknowledge it's flaws too
youtube drama is such a weird concept when you realize it parented an entire generation at this point. Grown men getting into moral spats for clout raised a non-insignificant portion of today's youth lmaoooo
LMAOO facts
I don't know if I find it sad, or weird
No what’s sad is seeing a grown ass adult on TH-cam not understanding the nuances and impact of someone with a large audience.
That on top of the schools' knee-jerk reaction to teen depression and self-esteem issues resulting in them essentially teaching a bunch of kids that they never have to change and are perfect the way they are instead of giving them tools to adapt and cope with an uncaring world that isn't made to cater to them. Now we have not only people that constantly seek drama for self-validation but are entirely entitled and lack basic life skills that allow them to face and survive in the real world.
Such an insightful comment. Never thought about it in this way. Maybe this is kinda what spawned today's cancel culture.
Bill Burr was really holding back his full power in that interview, he could've completely obliterated Ethan
Hes not an asshole like Ethan, he doesnt enjoy beating a dead horse
Cringe take
@@krylinn212 well it's true lol
He's always holding back his true power. He could obliterate practically anyone.
Last time Burr wasn't holding back was when he opened fire on the entire city of Philadelphia during the Virus Tour. And it was glorious.
Ethan was funny, but he’s never been that smart. I fell off his content when he shifted to opinionated stuff. I found it shallow and often mean spirited, and Ethan’s ego rubbed me the wrong way
100%
Likewise
same.
I was giving him a pass even with this but I left when he said in the podcast that his viewers stuck with him for years but just because he said something they don’t like, they leave. Don’t blame the viewers for turning on you because you kept avoiding criticism while continuously doing it to people. I don’t know if he changed but seeing that version of Ethan was insufferable especially because he was a humble face for TH-cam fame.
Well said. I couldn't agree more.
"The de-Klein of Ethan"
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@@ajk4270 UnDeRrAtEd CoMmEnT 🤤🧟
@@amp4105 hahahaha i see u have little to do my friend, its ok
"I'd like to move on"
"Yeah, but...."
"I'd rather not discuss it"
"Yeah, but...."
Jesus that was hard to watch
It was such a hard section to watch, like take a hint Ethan, Jesus.
It took me two months to finish. Kept coming back, then immediately cringed and changed.
As someone who is both a fan of jontron and someone who never watched this podcast before, to me it was immediately apparent just how uncomfortable Jon was in the clips shown. And I don’t just mean a little discomfort, I mean that I personally was experiencing secondhand discomfort from watching Jon be uncomfortable. How Ethan couldn’t have picked up on that is beyond me.
I had to skip that Jesus it started to hurt
Why does he keep talking about it
The ultimate decline of H3 was when they started the podcast. It was then that people realised that Ethan, in an unscripted, live format is actually a bit of an arse.
Try a huge arse hahaha. I watched his first few and loved the one with post malone because it felt very calm and respectful. The other ones however were horrible, ethan is constantly interrupting his guests and his unfiltered opinions are so ass hahahahah.
Kinda like when Boogie started streaming lol
@@soggycastella deadset
Complete arse*
As well as quite stupid
Ethan is a prime example of when a funny down to earth guy gets famous/rich and let's the ego go to his head.
Fame and money only expose your real character
Moving to LA played a big part in it as well. It changed both him and Hila, overall, for the worse...
I came to write "and moving to Cali" but ya boi J got it covered
More like becoming a LA libtard n that’s coming from someone pretty liberal. He’s over the top n bashes people who don’t think like him.
Its truely a shame really. I miss watching him and Hila
32:30 let's not pretend the REAL reason wasn't money.
The podcast was far easier to make, took little effort, and sponsorship money made them quite literally multimillionaire nearly overnight
Those all sound like good reasons tbh
personally i'd never accept a job i like and that pays more
@@paultanzen9434 say that again when that job is making you millions. You’ll think real hard about quitting
@@OccupiedMuffins they were being sarcastic I’m pretty sure.
@@ultimonx9152 I'm completely serious, if i was offered my dream job with enough money my kids would never even have to work I'd have to say no. Only sell outs would accept that, true blooded Americans must struggle to afford basic amenities
I feel like it’s fair for Ethan to not have known Bill would get that upset over asking “How many siblings do you have?” Directly after Bill offers up the information that he had a huge family growing up unprompted.
Yeah it's the multiple follow ups that seemed to make him even more upset. I do agree though, it's not like the original question was out of line.
It’s because after Bill expressed he didn’t want to get too personal Ethan kept pressing for more information. Bill didn’t automatically get upset, only after Ethan kept pressing for more info.
Bill was just being a doucebag lol someone knowing he has sibling does nothing to his life lol he’s been famous for nearly 20 years at this point hahaha
@@okilladmityouarerightbut4827
Yea but if you pay attention he’s kinda a paranoid guy. He talks about serial killers and government conspiracies as jokes in his comedies, but he does to an extent believe those things. He probably doesn’t want to talk about his family because of his slight paranoia. Either way, Ethan should respect anyone’s wishes on his show to not talk about some things.
@@SinShady. true I just don’t understand why lol like what could someone do with that information?
Ethan became the very thing he mocked for years. Just like poetry, it rhymes.
okay George Lucas
Nicee
He turned into a Drama Channel like Keemstar. It’s heart breaking . I can barely get thru H3 podcast now
@@sinatramnzzz928 It's funny how he hates Keemstar with a passion yet he and his audience can't seem to stop talking about him.
@@googleisevil8958 It's funny how he hates Keemstar, and h3h3 has became almost like Keemstar, and alot of h3h3's fans have become like Keem's fans. Both were protected by TH-cam for too long, More h3h3 than Keem
I remember one of Ethan's "bad take" from a podcast episode with Post Malone and joji, he said something like: "women, in a nature setting, are made to be conquered". Then joji made a face that was *so* funny, it was the perfect rendition of 😬
*Edit* to be exact, the correct quote is “women, in a nature setting, are like… to be conquered”. Someone named Laura posted the video I’m talking about in the thread 😌
*Edit 2* pls don’t assume I’m agreeing with/I’m offended by Ethan’s take, I just mentioned the quote because it was in the title of the video, what actually mattered here was joji’s funny face.
Joji's face was funny but Ethan was right in that istance, he meant it in a savage nature settings, and it's exactly how it worked for millenia before civilized society
It's not a controversial statement, it's just how history was
@@GroovyLeon if that’s what you think then that’s exactly how you say it, not the way he said it. The way he said it doesn’t mean anything to be fair haha
Sounds like something Onision would say
@@SisselSasha Honestly? Fair enough, even tho what he meant may have been factually correct, he needed to formulate it better, i agree
@@GroovyLeon It's just a really creepy, ownership and domination-influenced way of saying "men seek women for their own" or something similar
real onision, armoredskeptic tier phraseology imo
It's simultaneously depressing and breathtaking how Ethan and Hila become literally the very things they say they hated within a short amount of time.
This entire video and comment thread is some of the dorkiest shit ive seen on youtube, and I've seen adult men simp on My Little Pony episodes.
(No hate) In my opinion, Hila has always been pretty chill. Ethan seems to be the problem.
@@corndog756 She's definitely not the same level of insufferable as Ethan, but she's there parroting the exact same sentiments and such, so she's just as much of the problem as Ethan is.
@@ThatFalloutGod I see, that's sad.
When went from a beautiful brown goddess to a pasty white chick
It’s crazy that I used to think this guy was one of the funniest people on TH-cam and now all i do is cringe whenever I watch him.
Same man… same
To me its not even cringe its just plain sad and boring
same
Same across the board mate.
Those videos when they were just filming and roaming around new York were the golden days. What the fuck happened
For the first few minutes of this I had to keep reminding myself I wasn’t watching a JCS Psychology video and that I did not have to fear for Ethan killing Hila.
Sad to see that they haven't uploaded for almost a year now.
@@axo9813 no they haven't
RIP JCS, fuck TH-cam. Arbitrary, vague rules made specifically to punish whomever they want for whatever they want without explanation.
@@broadstork Now they have
@@-AxisA- Yup!
Bill Burr making Ethan take anti-depressants after the interview ,somehow is hilarious to me.
This is a man who destroyed an entire city when they heckled him, it’s not surprising
@@Ismael-kc3ry his Philly set is stuff of comedy legends
@@ranga1cat absolutely. “The entire pride of your city is based around a guy that doesn’t even exist.”
@@Ismael-kc3ry 9 minutes! The countdown was pure gold. 😆
That's easy to answer. It's because Ethan deserves to feel depressed and broken after everything he's ever done. Pushing agenda on kids and being a complete scumbag his whole podcast career it's funny to see him suffer.
Before the diehard fans mass-dislike this, they need to realize that no single e-celeb is this infallible entity. Joon presents unbiased information regarding the highs and lows of youtube careers, that doesn’t mean it’s meant to “destroy” ethan today. And regardless of how bad other e-celebs are (keemstar, trisha) it doesn’t change the fact that Ethan has also done his fair share of chaos.
IMO Ethan is just a normal dude. He’s made normal mistakes and is completely unfiltered which I appreciate. He’s never ruined anyone’s life or career and always took accountability for his mistakes which is all you could ask for. I understand that the teenage boy audience he once had prefers the more edited jump cut and strictly wannabe edgy content so they may not like the unfiltered unedited and wide spread of topics his content offers now. But simply not liking the direction a creator has made is not enough to solicit the type of hate he’s been getting lately. There are creators who have done some vile shit and not only haven’t taken accountability for any of it but refused to grow up and change. I’ve seen Ethan do the contrary so I can’t hate 🤷🏻♀️
Unbiased?
Yh, it's not like a Content Cop.
@@saraha2525 See, you're undermining his guilt by saying "normal mistakes" and that his previous audience was "teenage boys" and "strictly wannabe edgy." Ethan has never taken accountability until he receives backlash. Ethan's switch to Unedited/unfiltered just allowed his audience to see how he reacts in real time, which wasn't exactly the most admirable or funny compared to the actual jokes and planned videos he made in the past. Content creator controversy has spawned this kind of hivemind that says if a celebrity hasn't committed some unquestionable racism, sexual assault, or scam, that they're still an admirable figure and good personality.
The other thing is that these issues are only super apparent beacause his career relies on hour long pieces of content instead of editable 11 minute videos
I like how he tried to legitimately use "I psychologically shut down when faced with criticisms" as a defense for not acknowledging criticisms directly.
Hearing that made me feel a little sick. I get potential PTSD responses from childhood trauma(if that is his struggle), but that is something you can acutally work on and is not an excuse to be a piece of shit.
@@Martin-kl7xk That's the thing, I can't say for sure of course but the way he says it makes it sound like it's just something he's came up with and wasn't actually diagnosed and is using that to shield himself from criticism.
@@Martin-kl7xk You shoudn't underestimate the effect that negative attention from millions of people can have on you.
@@alexanderfox5145 I don't, but if that is your excuse then you should just quit. :)
Plus the fact that he can dish out criticism every two to three business days but as soon as he receives criticism it’s bad.
Like if you can’t take criticism then maybe you shouldn’t be giving out criticism???
I love how TH-cam was united and then became so divided and how everyone hates each other now. It's fantastic.
Mean a lot of people were just superficially liking eachother lol. Same on twitch when everyone moved in with Soda. These were alliances of convenience, nothing to last.
love?
it was never united lol
I like how TH-cam was about broadcasting yourself and now it's run by a pro-feminotsee woman who censors speech, promotes late night hosts who are anti-democracy and sucks the D of big corporations while removing information from a search engine...
I still have hopes for Odysee but they really need to get on fixing the UI and shortcuts.
Just have a certain incident on the scale of net neutrality or COPPA going through and then they'll come together quick.
The interview with William (the beanie guy) is always the saddest part for me. He seemed like a cool, intelligent guy and didn’t deserve that treatment.
Ethan and Hila are both egotistical arrogant people. Hila is just the quieter version, Ethan is ok looking like a bafoon.
dude they did another episode with william and apologized for the first one
youre reading way into things lmao. William even said it was cool bc he was only planned for a short interview and they even hung out after the show ended that day... stop believing every TH-cam "expose" video.
if ur that pressed, go support him. william osman on yt. does collabs with idubbz and more
Now the same people that defend William are now calling him a cuck. Funny how the internet works.
I watched him back then and was like "Oh yeah, hes kind of funny and edgy." Never in my mind did I say "I want this idiot to do hour long podcasts."
the podcast was the start of the decline, stopped watching any of his content after that
"I want this idiot to do hour long podcasts" is something I DID think... except I also though "just not every week" and "just not as the host".
@@flapjackpancake5486 yes! I was watching him every week for months before the podcast. I thought he was hilarious and i loved his videos. However, all his stupid jokes or opinions could be edited out. You don’t do that with a podcast. Immediately, his real side was shown. It was a complete 360 from what I thought he was like. I know every celebrity has a persona but wow 😅
It's mind numbing to me that anybody can listen to Hila say anything in that dead, monotone voice and find it interesting.
@@RickR69 let's hear you speak. I bet you're far worse.
The case of H3H3 is a perfect example of why I almost always question the questionable things big TH-camrs say or do, no matter how innocuous they may seem. It can be an early sign that the TH-camr you love might not be the golden boy/girl you thought they were. Very rarely are the things we see in videos accidental, because otherwise they could just edit it out. Very often they are fully intentional.
@@Northernheros I wasn’t saying I think anyone is flawless. Like I said, whenever a TH-camr with even the slightest bit of experience accidentally says or does something they didn’t intend to, they would just edit it out before posting. As such, virtually everything that happens in published video is fully intentional, and when something suspicious is still present, it should be questioned. Mistakes absolutely do happen, we usually just don’t see them. And also like I said, there are occasional exceptions to that.
@@Northernheros Dude, for many of these big creators, TH-cam is their job. Proofreading videos is just part of that. Most of them aren’t *really* normal people (usually terminally online like both of us), despite how relatable they may seem. Once again, visible mistakes happen, but they are rare.
"Bold Guy vs. Parkour Girl, which is a niche, subjectively difficult to watch video..." That is the classiest way to describe it, good job.
your editor needs to know that the cut at 43:28 was fresh as hell and was appreciated
Yeah that was so cool
nah it was kinda lame cause they didn't add the ambiance like you could clearly tell it was a voice over rather than coming out of the radio.
Especially liked the smudges on the TV
@@iamsobeautifulomg okay buddy go do it better
@@SaintLumbridge no you do it better
For me, it's the glossing over the whole spectacle of the Frenemies saga with "replacing a problematic co-host with his mother". 😂😭
his mum is dopey and senile she makes it too annoying and stupid to watch he needs to stop that podcast like dude just stop being so money hungry it ain't working
@@babe1er lmao how is she dopey and senile? She's completely normal
@@babe1er whatever you say random internet dude no one knows and has zero impact on anything 🤣
@@babe1er where do u get off calling a sweet and unproblematic older woman, ‘dopey and senile’. if being kind and (again) unproblematic bothers u, just don’t watch - plenty of h3 fans just like seeing donna enjoy herself. what a strange take.
@@babe1er huh? Ethan's mum is really nice and entertaining to watch. That's not being "dopey" or "senile", it's called being a sweet kind person. She reminds me of my own Nana. Maybe your own mum hits you and curses you out all the time, and that's the kind of mother you're used to so you can't relate??
He always struck me as a guy who just gave up a long time ago and who deflected any criticism by being self righteous and critical of others. Right or wrong, it's sad to see such an obviously depressed person enabled just enough to tolerate his own perpetual misery and never evolve.
Gnarly take. I don’t disagree.
That’s the trend apparently
Yikes. Stop. I’d rather not believe that’s the case.
It's funny that everyone that knows nothing about him from knowledge they've garnered from outside sources has this take lmao. He admits he's wrong constantly, is always trying to grow and has been very open about battling his depression and weight gain. He's now lost pretty much all the weight and is a much better place. Sure if you don't think he's funny that's fair enough but he's not a bad guy in anyway, treats his employees and fans really well. Your comment is ignornace incarnate.
@@BennesonTenneson I mean, you also don't know anything about him. You only know what he chooses to put out there.
Hila wants to do fashion, Ethan wants to have 6 podcasts that are all just starting drama and bitching about other people because his creativity for skits ran out by the time vape nation was days old.
I don't remember when I stopped watching but I guess a year or two ago after he stopped making regular content and I had seen the first few podcasts but it is pretty sad to see how bitter and miserable he seems to have become.
@@Nadaters All the while being richer and more successful than ever, bro you're a millionaire about to have a second kid with your wife who gives a fuck about youtube drama every week grow upppppppp.
His insults in every single beef is calling the other guy gay
@@ChichiNaka You sound like a child. I have no idea what you thought you was proving but your reply was idiotic.Her point is very valid and in line with a lot of peoples views on him, perhaps you should get up off your knees, zip Ethans pants, wipe your mouth and try growing up
@@kinglicks5646 What are you on about?
did h3h3 convince people to start vaping
ethans just that old friend that you outgrew, cuz he never grew up.
Not like you, right? You "grew up" and are beyond petty arguments and mistakes on the internet, right?
@@jacobp249 lol found the h3h3 fanboy
@@jacobp249 butthurt much lol
man’s couldn’t even defend his wife when trisha freaking paytas called her the C word. what a chode. hila if you had the stones you’d leave him for that lol.
@@asmrtpop2676 lol u would get a divorce bcuz some one called u a mean name🤣😂🤣😂 uno ur insane right?
Even when Keemstar's coverage is necessary for a story, he truly is one of the worst people on this entire site.
Nothing about petty drama coverage is necessary
@@blankblank4522 It's not necessary, but sometimes it's the only coverage to go off of. Like how in the Call Me Carson situation a while back, the primary sources of information, Carson's friends, decided to bring it directly and only to Keem for God only knows what reason, and most of the comment section was made up of "This is the only Drama Alert I've ever had to watch" or "I can't believe I actually have to come here to learn about what's happening," a sentiment I wholeheartedly shared.
@@paragonrobbie9270 this is all based off whether you care about any of these topics though
@@blankblank4522 And? There's probably tons of things you consider newsworthy, while others couldn't care less.
@@100billionsubscriberswithn4 a month late boss lol
Ethan lost touch with reality when he made it big. Being super wealthy and living in California does something to people.
When you can afford the overpriced everything in California no problem, you tend to develop a god complex. Just look at all the celebrities.
I only go to California to either camp or hike. I don't want to sell my fucking kidneys for an apartment
Cali really is a uniquely evil place.
California hater ding ding ding
you don’t know anything about California
I just can't feel sorry for Keemstar, in any way shape or form. As always though Joon, you make some of the best content, along with fredrik knudsen. Hope LTG has left you alone finally.
No reason to feel sorry for him, dudes doing great for himself and his family
@@ikaeye actually i think his wife just left him. and he had a total mental breakdown on twitter. But specifically I'm referencing his part in this video, being called out by Ethan. What he did to RSGloryandGold is unforgivable. the old dude still gets harassed due to keemstar every so often.
@@ExarchGaming they've all messed up big time, as long as his intentions weren't to do what he did I think he deserves to be forgiven in the end, also I don't think he gets harassed much if at all nowdays, the internet moves on fast
@@ExarchGaming People reap what they sow. If Keem never decided to be TMZ, His life would have been much healthier.
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast indeed. preach it. lmao
From what I remembered Ethan had Sean (Jacksepticeye) on as a guest on the podcast, but there’s a clip of him asking about Septiplier (a ship between Sean and Markiplier) and asked him how he felt about it…despite multiple times he’s said he found it uncomfortable about being shipped with his friend.
What made the interview awkward was when Ethan read a paragraph from a saucy fanfiction, most notably the aftermath. From there I think Sean was uncomfortable for the rest of the time.
I don’t know if Ethan does this on purpose to make the podcast more interesting or if he’s unaware of what he’s doing or what people’s reaction would be to the question but this stuck out in my mind as a awkward moment on the podcast.
Edit: Thanks for 1k likes 😊
@ViegosWife come to think of it I know a few people who ask uncomfortable questions to people, I’m a bit like that at times, but they always seems remorseful and apologetic once they realise what they said. Ethan just to just carry on and doesn’t seem to apologise for it.
I also just realised that most of the guest come on once before never coming back, I understand that some are across seas and can’t have a one on one interview but others in the area didn’t come back.
I swear he watched compilations of Howard Stern asking guests fucked up questions and thought he could do that without taking into account 1. The guest's comfort level 2. Howard generally easing into the more controversial questions and 3. Having the capabilities to actually socialize with guests
Yeah he often pushes things too much with people. As much as I don’t like Trisha he did it with her too a lot, especially in the early days of Frenemies. I feel like he’s always giving AB (crew member) a hard time too.
He has a script and he will stick to that script whether people hate it or not. It seems like he thinks he's the only person's feelings who matter.
He wants to bully people into being below him.
I get what he was trying to do with Burr. But you can't keep egging on a subject when your guest told you they're not willing to talk about.
He literally didn't know whether Burr was being serious or not. He explicitly said as much.
It was pretty nice seeing the timeline of the golden years when I first subscribed to h3, the broke/reaction/skit era was pure gold. I jumped off the H3 train before it totally crashed.
Bingo
Listened to this while I was working (being a janitor has its perks). It's definitely worthy of listening to in the background like it's a documentary, but for TH-cam stuff.
Ayee fellow janitor here listening at work. 8+ hours of audio every day is nice!
Lol I do the same in the office
I do that too, but I'm a garbageman.
Now i see what kind of people are hating on H3. Got it.
@@indym8523 anyone watching 1.5 hours of content about Ethan likes h3 lmao
Its the og fans from 2016 who dislike him the most.
I'm an og fan I just don't enjoy his content anymore
@@DaRealEarth1yeah, he used to be funny and made some good memes in light hearted fashion. now he just has agendas agains people and complains
@@halocraft204 I’m a og fan and I don’t really hate him. I rarely watch his new content tho. I think h3h3 changed with the new climate because everyone complains about everything nowadays
I still like him, i dont always agree with him and he makes an ass out of himself sometimes but I think he’s generally a good guy
Tho I don’t watch most of his new content, not really my thing (frenemies was the best thing to happen on a while and thats done with now. Love his mom, but she’s not the best suited for co-host)
@@whh5938 yeah exactly, i dont hate him either but he has an entirely new audience derived of hating other people when the content the older fans used to enjoy was just him goofing around
He’s turned into someone who he would used to make fun of endlessly in 2015-2016-2017
Which is a good thing.
@@sakurabluesx Uh no it's not. He was actually funny back then & gave effort.
@@Crunch_Buttsteak It’s almost like humor is subjective or something.
@@sakurabluesx His original sense of humor derived from Tim & Eric, Eric Andre, etc. is what got them to where they are. Vape Nation, Ainsely Harriot vids, the Bradberry saga, goofing on Prank Invasion, etc is what got h3h3 multiple millions of subs.
@@sakurabluesx nah
I think the most insane thing is that Ethan said he doesn't target anyone for their political affiliations.
Boy did that shit change HARD in recent years lol.
@@gulber found ethans burner
@@Haiydes found the edgelord conservative lol
@@gulber Because division totally makes things better
i mean, he and Fantano were once making fun of Jordan Peterson when he looked really sick.
Once Ethan got political I abandoned all hope for him. Seemed like he went out of his way to have the most boneheaded take on literally any given situation. Dumb people with a massive audience is a dangerous thing.
Ethan has never been the same since the Matt haus lawsuit. That lawsuit profoundly changed him.
He got a payday dlc from it, my ego would explode too
Hes had such a massive ego since then yeah, cant believe he goes after peoples sponsors....and people still defend this snake in the grass.
@@notjimpickens7928 ya'll have like zero understanding how important that lawsuit was for almost all TH-cam creators. It set a legal precedent that gives fair use exceptions for copywritten material.
@@themange59 that is a big reason hes a hypocrite bro. The former face of creators’ well being on TH-cam is now out there grabbing sponsors.
@@schloop687 completely different issues, and mentioning GFuel when talking about Keemstar isn't "going after people's sponsors" it's going after one incredibly bad person's sponsors, and he barely even did that lol
I’m surprised Ethan’s fanboys aren’t here defending him to no end.
Hahaha, that's a joke, right? I've rarely seen such levels of butthurt. The comments are great too. Low IQ, seething excuse making and insult flinging. I even saw some posts in all CAPS hahaha
Because the video itself pretty much did it for them. This was start to finish a near total defense of Ethan.
Oh they're there.. Plenty of them for a collective eye-roll and a chuckle anyway.. But since his fanboys have slowly continued to dissipate over time, the sparsity of their comments mean they're getting lost in the mix.. And all of our eyeballs/brainpower are the better for it ✌🏽
@@perochialjoe Also true!!
What did he do that was so terrible?
Loved when he threatened to sue that one guy for calling him a hypocrite.
Who was that, again?
@@mikerose1379 SomeOrdinaryGamers.
@@PaulBadman981 do you have a time stamp or video link? I want to check that out.
Zionist love running to lawyers
@OnlyFans Isn’t Empowering Oy vey...
I completely forgot "NGL, this is definitely me when I'm driving" was SoFlo. I still say it from time to time and I thought my brain just dreamed it up one day. What a different era of TH-cam and social media in general
Man, what even happened to that guy?
I guess you could say his popularity is DE-Klein-ING.
yeah they’re totally hurting for views, definitely not making bank
Brilliant!
@@RyanYeehaw Decline doesn't mean something is dead.
@@belloutdoors5217 Yeah yeah we get it you love your H3H3 its cool bro don't have to defend him he's a big boy and he's already married I know you're in love with him.
The h3h3 channel yes. But the podcasts are actually enjoyable until that trash piece Trisha joined, they’re back to better podcasts now, but I hope they get better. They really did make my days and make me laugh, kind of sad seeing what’s happening to them now. not simping, I love them, but the dramas are not good for anyone or anything…
Personally I never liked him. He had his humorous moments/videos but his personality always rubbed me the wrong way, as he always felt too pretentious. This really progresses over time as the "power of influence and fame" got to his head.
For real, I always felt drained watching them. Him and the girl always seemed low Intel and low vibrations. It was just them complaining about other channels and being smug is the "humor". Also they made toddler sized sex dolls and sold them and gave them away to fans, which really infuriated me. Ok make the Dunham joke, but don't make sex dolls for pedos
Same. I watch him for 2-3 video and I completely stop and never watch him again
@Me memememememe me me
There's a secret to their success. It relates to the relationship they have with the people running youtube.
@Me memememememe me me Hila is almost braindead. She acts like a duster addict that got clean
He is using his power for good - showing how trisha has bpd and humanizing her, exposing David dobrik and s3xual assault claims, etc. No one is willing to do that except him and I respect that
"It sounds like you love your daughter" it sounded like he was trying to make a joke insinuating something but it fell really flat.
Like all his “jokes “
He specifically said "IN love with your daughter," that's 100% his intent
How has ethan consistently looked like a divorced dad his whole life?
weirdly enough he's never been divorced
Someday, scientists hope to understand why anyone gives a shit about anything Keemstar has to say. It may take several more generations of rigorous research.
This is a great comment lol, underrated ^
I luv that he did not give Trisha a damn thing not a second lol
He mentioned her at the very very end briefly, not even by name, but as a "problematic co-host." XD
She’s going around copyright striking every video that mentions her so smart move on his part!
@@Rachel-rk9bs she learned something from her new bestie keem
Well makes sense since its focused on ethan and not that person
@@Rachel-rk9bs proof?
It‘s a bad sign when you come out of a beef with the keem and the best thing people can say about you is that you‘re the lesser of 2 evils.
I disagree I think people just fall for the narrative easily. Me actually following ethan and his podcast, I'd say most of the major criticism against him is overblown and partially fueled by far right people who used to watch him for his SJW videos
@@-kdot-2332 have you seen Gokunaru’s vid my dude?
@@richardcheese4680 yeah that video is horrible. It's not well put together and he makes a lot of arguments in bad faith. He's even gone to retract certain points for that reason
@@-kdot-2332 most pits still stand.
@@richardcheese4680 ehh I'd say gokunaru is reaching for like 90% of the video
Ethan became a man that he'd clown on in 2016
The line between clowners and the clowns they clown on is thin in the best of circumstances.
jontron 100 times: i dont wanna get into it
ethan: so i wanna get back into this
He did the same thing to Trisha constantly but no one called him out for it
Jontron is legitimately an ethnonationalist Ethan should’ve grilled him more
It was completely reasonable to push him on it. Jontron is a complete moron who got obliterated on a topic he didn't know about, and then doubled down on it and thought a friendly relationship excused him from criticism. Glad he was uncomfortable, wish he was even more so.
idk if i’m taking to somebody and they said “i don’t wanna get into it” i’d immediately move on
@@thomwav imagine being so spineless you can't pushback against literal ethnostaters because it makes you uncomfortable. Ethan was only halfway there, that's my only criticism tbh.
I suppose that is what happens when you put average people like yourselves on a pedestal. A few admittedly mild slip-ups practically erased his OG following and put his reputation in shambles, yet people like Keem still reign supreme in the commentary community. I assume this is because Ethan was respected among TH-cam as a whole, but folks like Leafy and Keemstar never had much of a good reputation to begin with.
Same happened to Boogie basically. Going from a mountain to a pothole makes you look worse than a trench due to the drop.
Idk I just really like rooting for the bad guy
Didn't he also move to Los Angeles?
Keem is 100% more real than ethan will ever be. You dont have to like keem to admit that
@@Jjjbbb5678 could not disagree more. Ethan is salt of the earth. Keem is just grossly disingenuous
H3H3 was the biggest help for me when I was fighting depression, seeing an upload would instantly safe my day and would lead me to watch earlier videos again. Now I cannot even watch their podcast, feels like completely different person(s)
They changed, got money and became PC to the point they aren't recognizable from what they were. It's sucks I really did love his old content.
As soon as they got that sweet Susan love the game changed completely. Ethan knows what he is doing, that Buzzfeed audience he once mocked is now his main target demographic.
@@PeaceDweller so true
Maybe you should try growing up a bit too.
@@lithium if growing up means adopting a specific ideology and blind faith that you are always right, no thanks
"You don't have to talk about this if you don't want to."
"Okay, I don't really want to get into it."
"Okay. I'm just wondering about your journey."
"Yeah, I just want to put it behind me."
"Did you regret it?"
"To summarize his 1hr and 35min video" I see you not to be out done here joon... bravo
Lmao yes, though honestly Gokanaru's video was really well made, kept me entertained
@@JoonTheKing I can't wait to check it out I hope it's in the description... but if not probably easy to find... another fine piece of work many loves to you
@@JoonTheKing Both you a Gokunaru dislike Ethan and thusly made very flawed videos with distorted narrative of the events that lead to an erroneous conclusion. But atleast your video wasn't as much of a stretch as that terrible Gokunaru video.
@@risenjoker923 ok
@@risenjoker923 ok
I miss the old Ethan, straight from Israel Ethan, I hate this new Ethan, such a fake dude Ethan.
Got too big, ego inflated. Many such cases.
Bad Ethan. Ethan not like rock.
I'm digging the editing and the well thought out info. Thx Joon & Co.
In a comedic format, with editing and commentary on someone far more outrageous than him, Ethan truly was funny. Suddenly he has people working under him, has a kid, doing an opinionated unedited podcast with abstract and often more serious subject matter, and it's like his insecurities and ego become something to build and protect against criticism rather than to deprecate and use for comedy. It was so awkward to hear him talk about how exercise is a conspiracy and waste of time while Hila just sits there and cringes
It's really interesting seeing the explanation behind what I as a fan was feeling and noticing which ultimately led me to watch h3h3 less until finally unsubbing and even disliking content.
I don't understand how it says he turns into a hypocrite.. he was ALWAYS a hypocrite
Same, Ethan went down such a SJW rabbit hole too. He truly became the biggest hypocrite. He used to be a voice of reason for youtube, and now hes selfish, entitled, and a hypocrite. I unsubbed to all channels a year or so ago. I also hated the way he treats his staff. Also I always got the feeling Hila was so ungrateful or appreciative of the fans of their channels. I also am against people blowing money on stupid ass shit, like a 9 million dollar mansion. There is never a reason for a three person family to live in a 9 million dollar mansion. You can still live lavish, but buy a damn one story house for a million or something.
@@ZabaTheFrog truee
he's always been the worst
@@ZabaTheFrog Yeah, it just became more apparent over the years.
I bet Trisha Paytas is mad that people can make a video focused on Ethan that doesn't mention her in anyway.
He (and her too, to be honest) is an OG creator. His career not revolved around her.
As things should be, tbh
Ethan is probably getting off to this comment
I like how unbiased this documentary is, just straight facts. I personally do think Ethan is a hypocrite and he has spread misinfo. I don’t think he is a genuinely terrible person though.
He's just a poor soul that has his best parts of his personality changed once more $$$ and petty drama-milking are involved for relevancy, hence this is why there's mentions of Israel Ethan, NYC Ethan and even pre-Podcast Cali Ethan was the best Ethan's eras
Not to mention his audiences are mostly tea channel cancer which might be less edgy, but so much talk about junk and useless things, which I understand to how many old fans of him found it infuriating to listens to their tripe or read their comments
@@ohamatchhams just admit that you don’t like Ethan anymore cuz he isn’t making ‘edgy’ and ‘anti sjw’ content...
@@Petdub Just admit you guys don't have an argument against the valid criticism of Ethan, and you parrot this lame talking point. It's like y'all are mentally stuck in 2016 with that "lul you're an anti s-jay-wubya!" crap. Grow up.
@@Aqua4044 they were tho, that was a response to last sentence in the last persons statement, and honestly it’s true 2016 was around the height of that type of content, looking back at it the videos don’t really age well. They were really cringe.
I’m a fan of Ethan still but I’m glad that theres people that don’t hate blindly just because what everyone else says and thinks he’s the worst person alive
Incredibly well made video. This is my introduction to your videos - I’m a fan instantly. I was an h3 fan for like 7-8 months when the reaction videos were really taking off, naturally stopped caring after the shtick got more popular and wore its welcome out, never made it to the podcast era. But thanks to your blood sweat and tears I’m all caught up on this vein of TH-cam lore. Salute
The JonTron episode was SO hard to watch, he's SO uncomfortable and obviously upset and Ethan just would not stop. Ethan just wanted to look like the good guy, this episode put the nail in the coffin for me with H3H3
Also, the William Osment episode broke my heart. I'm such a huge fan of William and William was such a big fan of Ethan, it was so hard to watch
JonTron is a bigot, and the only reason this is tolerated is because his fans are also bigots. But of course, Ethan's fans are also bigots, which is why they're upset that he's not supportive of bigotry. (Unless it's Palestinians, of course; then it's totally okay to be a bigot.)
@@NoJusticeNoPeace How is JT a bigot? And who is he bigoted towards?
@@AT-qw9cq Look up the GameRant article entitled "A Brief Breakdown of the JonTron Racism Controversy". If you don't think arguing in favour of white nationalism is bigoted, then you're probably a bigot too.
@@NoJusticeNoPeace Hold up, Jon Tron, the Hungarian-Iranian, is a proponent of white nationalism?🤔
What speaks most to his character is that the people he used to be friends with are nowhere to be seen now.
Like who? I mean idubbz is literally doing a boxing event that h3 and his crew are going to be apart of in a few months.
@@Sam-bn5bb post Malone and Joji have essentially ghosted him. He’s not good for anyones career.
@@kaitlynm9463 joji ghosted everyone
@@kaitlynm9463 Post Malone is really busy, there’s a clip from a podcast where Post and Steve O are talking about H3 and what a great guy he is and Post said he wanted to get in touch again.
@@biboebbs624 well if you watch Cold Ones podcast(max and chad) they say Joji and Idubbzz still talks to them on regular basis
Man, that section with JonTron is just….. cringe. Ethan kept going and going and going… Jesus…
fr omg
Yeah between that and bill Burr ..... Yikes 😬
I don't even want to defend Ethan's older interviews as he for a fact needed a lot of improvement then, but I don't get why people have a problem with the jontron interview, he had been exposed as having white nationalist views so I feel like making him uncomfortable about that fact isn't the wrong thing here
@@Cream12345Ice he’s clearly embarassed of his actions and is doing his best to change his views and steer his actions away from that but Ethan only wanted the controversy to entertain his viewers. It would be fine if Jon had no remorse, but he did and Ethan took advantage of it.
@@lesarch He doesn’t seem that regretful, if you actually listen to him. Him talking more just made it clear that he wasn’t even sorry, he just didn’t want to look bad.
H3H3's real downfall and point of no return was that he became a "holier-than-thou" person towards anything controversial.
He got preachy about topics he knows little to nothing about, and turned into a political talking piece to appease his new audience.
I feel as he progressed towards being not self-aware and virtue signaling, he surrounded himself with a friend group and audience that if he didn't stop pandering to, his career would be ruined. And that's what we're seeing now of him.
Bingo.
This was so good I feel like I should have paid to watch it. Excellent reporting. Thank you to all the talents that put this together.
he left out a shit load of other things ethan has done to people.
@@marcus9043 for example?
@@leonora993 srsly, like the past five months.
setting up a debate with crowder to bitch out and have sam seder replace him last minute.
@@marcus9043 lmao you must like crowder if you have problem with that.
H3 is still somehow living proof, that if your competition is lame enough, and the bar is set low enough, you, as well, can make a living with little effort and few skills.
I hope you do a video like this on Keemstar. I don't like him, but I'm still curious about his history on TH-cam.
From pile of crap to sack of crap
he would be one of the few who is actually a better person nowadays, although that isn't saying much
@@mtsoccerman did you see that clip of him at Adin Ross’s house. It was so cringe I’m pretty sure it made his keem’s gf break up with him
For starters just watch idubbbz's content cop on keemstar. It's informative and also hilarious. Not many youtubers make videos about Keem cause he has a history of rabidly attacking anyone who criticizes him in the slightest. People doesn't want that stress, so they just ignore keem for the most part.
@@b3dubbs72 I watched that, the cringe almost killed me.
I sometimes go and watch the old videos that used to make me laugh, they still do honestly. It's like visiting an old friend.
47:10 anyone else see this episode? I remember Jimmy being "in character" if you can even call it that, for 90% of the episode
You are misremembering, it was awfull on both parts :D
Honestly, I'm pretty sure he's always "in character." Just playing a more elevated version of himself for show. Some parts, he's being more real (not out-of-character) and just answering more seriously without schtick, but it really isn't some whole facade.
he was still disrespected
"knew him for the variety of beanies he wore and the flaunting of his FUPA" had me fucking dying lmao
Underrated channel. The time and effort you put into each video is overwhelming. Keep it up brother.
The JCS of TH-camr drama!
The fupa money obviously went towards that mansion
Ethan is like Channing Tatum in 21 Jump Street, The guy trying to relive his glory days, not realizing the world has completely moved on.
Ethan came up being a clown, an entertainer. He ended up thinking that people loved him for passing judgement with his statements and takes. This was his big mistake, he should have stuck to being an entertainer, now he is just another soapbox grifter.
Id say those are the ones that keep complaining Ethans changed. Everyone is so mad he changed and want him to be like what he use to be in the glory days. Yall need to learn people grow up so either u do the same or stay bitching 🤷🏿♂️
Now that's an specific reference...
i wondered why you didn't cover the frienemies/trisha paytas saga and realized that it's _still_ ongoing and that everything's just so damn confusing, great job on making this vid cohesive tho
Still, he shouldn't have glossed over it so easily because Paytas is Ethan's sister-in-law.
@@SirBlackReeds she is Hilas sister-in-law
It’s still on going
Because seeing Trisha would make the majority of people watching this barf all over their phone or computer, meaning they cant watch his videos anymore
@@yikes6969 FACTS !!!!!!!!
I usually don't watch long videos about TH-camrs 'drama' but you do a great job of presenting the information. I couldn't stop watching and now I'm subbed! I really appreciate people who present information without a bunch of bias.
H3H3 is the embodiment of "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
When the podcast came up I just knew the Bill Burr episode would come up too...still has not gotten any easier to watch lmao
I watched H3 up until that point, and quit after I didn’t even really know why, and then I started seeing the hypocrisy videos and it hit me. The Bill episode showed me who he really was and unconsciously just drifted away. And it’s funny how he’s against bullying when he’s friends with Tom segura who makes fun of mentally disabled on his podcast.
Tom is high and tight
I had to skip past that bit on here. I can only handle so much cringe.
@@sleepyproduction7166 Did you just try to be "woke" while also saying retard in the same sentence?
@@sleepyproduction7166 WOKE but using the R word? HYPOCRITE
Almost two hours, let's gooooooo!
It's unbelievable how Ethan dag his own grave to this point.
@@charisk2845 dag
@@onezerosevensix dag
@@charisk2845 dag
@@RunkelSpektunkel I don't understand spanish, french or whatever language you're speaking.
I'm a huge fan of Ethan and H3, but I am also equally Ethans biggest critic because I like his content and wanna see the guy own up to his flaws and be better. This stuff always entertains me. It's healthy to have different perspectives on people before u totally "idolize" them.
you took the words right out of my mouth
I'm a Foot Soldier as well, and I totally agree with you. I learned new stuff about Ethan being a hypocrite, but he and the crew are just so wholesome, funny, and down-to-earth that overwhelms the "bad side" of Ethan. Many deny it, but Ethan has definitely grown.
@@jonazWC eh idk I wish he would admit to his mistakes more tho. Now with the keemstar stuff arising again he needs to apologize for being rude to keem in the first place. He invited the guy on his podcast and acted nice only to then say he hates keemstar. Keem is a horrible guy I mean his behaviour is vile, but Ethan apologizing for where he was wrong would be the right thing to do.
@@StarryNightxx at this point!? NO WAY. I mean maybe back then an apology would’ve been warranted, despite keem being horrible, but now!? Keem tried to smear campaign Ethan for a long time, insulted his wife and harassed her on social media (when she wasn’t involved at all), and is a general SA apologist. The man doesn’t deserve anything now. Especially for something so stupid so long ago.
@A fucking birb okay?
It's odd. Pretty much almost every controversial thing he was involved in, I felt like "what? That's it? Who cares?"
None of it bothered me or felt deserving of the hate.
YET... I just cant help but not like 2022 Ethan. I tried to go watch, and hes just unlikable. Bad takes, bad attitude.
So its like.. I dont necessarily agree with every step of the way, but when looking at the sum of its parts.. not a fan.
Most of the people who dislike him are former fans like myself who are contrasting who he was back in 2014 where he seemed genuine but never took things too seriously. He would never have become famous doing the thing he's doing now and he's riding the coattails of his legacy to stay relevant
Yeah I felt the same way it’s like it wasn’t like he did one bad major thing but it was the continuous bad takes and unfunny jokes that didn’t hit and his poor attitude to guests and lately his rudeness towards his crew it rlly stArts to get unbearable to watch
Agreed. I stuck by their side for so long, I own Teddy Fresh, got a holiday shirt to support the crew, but 2022 H3 was the nail in the coffin for me. I can’t stand Ethan’s constant hypocrisy, his holier than thou attitude. Even Dan - who I used to love - is insufferable. They really became the thing they fought against. Everything is filled with vitriol, hate, and such mean-spirited energy. They’re bullies and that’s really all you can call them. I unsubbed a few months ago and while I’m sad one of my favorite creators is gone from my life, I do think it has improved in their absence.
@@unintentional_smile why do say they are bullies? I stopped watching them when they made the podcast. I watched frenemeies sometimes but i struggled to do so. It was boring imo.
@@thewolfstarfire Click on any video they’ve done in the last year (even less, the last month) and you’ll see what I mean. Leftovers is just a way for Ethan and Hasan to bully conservatives. I’m progressive but I don’t agree with the way they go about that show. It’s always mean-spirited and filled with hate, and it makes the Left look just as toxic as the Right, and it’s all just virtue signaling anyway.
H3TV, After Dark, and Off The Rails have become indistinguishable from one another. Just look at the title and thumbnails. It’s the same thing every time. Target someone they don’t like (Jordan Peterson, Keemstar, Ryan Kavanaugh, James Charles, David Dobrik, etc etc), make fun of some aspect of their life (their appearance, their house, their speech, whatever), and then react to viral internet things. I really was such a big fan but I couldn’t take the toxic, negative, meany energy anymore. It’s always the same. Always.
When he moved to LA, I swear he turned a 180 lol. That's around the time I stopped watching.
He’s originally from Ventura dude..
Nah man, it’s the podcast. That was the 180.
California from the bay area down is a cesspit that should be walled off and bombed.
@@troubleinbound Wow what a psycho thing to say
@@Sam_Guevenne don't care
The hallway scene with his videos as paintings were also really cool. Another well done video my friend! Excited to see who you cover next!
Clearly his ties with YT ceo isn’t that great because keemstar call her and she suspended H3 🤦🏻♀️
Susan doesn’t give a fuck
That shit was mad funny. Especially how he cried about it on Twitter.
He just tweeted at YT, tweeting them is the only way to get results from YT support.
no sweety, the algorithm simply pays more attention to youtube reports from youtube accounts with over 50k subs. no one called susan. whereas ethan actually did meet with susan, and later admitted that he spoke to her about certain channels. you don't flag a video by emailing or calling someone.
@@marcus9043 Ethan said last week on off the rails (maybe week before) keemstar admitted to contacting Susan. 🤷🏻♀️ and flagging his video.
The problem with Ethan was, as everyone says, he grew too much of an ego when he won that law suit. Now he thinks that because he's politically correct _and_ won against people who were trying to silence fair use, somehow that fits _him_ as a result. It really does feel like he tries hard to speak about current issues, but is so deluded by it that it just makes him look insensitive or worse, a shitty human being.
My biggest issue with Ethan Klein is that he speaks like he's an authority on subjects he has no clue about, he just makes shit up as he goes, and irresponsibly spreads this misinformation to his audience. I guess that's always a danger when you feel you just don't have to try anymore. His success has bred a lazy narcissism in him. He's convinced he's right, about everything, and this smug egotism makes him insufferable to endure. Ethan Klein has essentially become the exact kind of creator that he used to tear down himself.
This is by far the best description of Ethan I’ve seen so far. Underrated comment.
What kind of misinformation? And yeah he's changed so much, everything is so censored and it's just different:(
@@n0rajun3 he was called out by Karl Jobst for not doing any research in the final part of Dream’s speedrun drama, thereby spreading misinformation. You can come to your own conclusion about wether or not Dream is lying, but you must do it will all the facts set straight.
@@nukclear2741 The thing is, Ethan does that with literally every single topic or person he covers, not just Dream. It's everything. Almost every single thing he's ever talked about is just as full of hot air as his take on Dream was. It's honestly kind of impressive that a single human being can be that wrong about so many different things. You'd figure he'd eventually say something insightful and/or correct just by chance.
Well said
My take on the FUPA fund:
I believe that they did use all of the money in the fund but the reason why I think they should take a lot of heat over it is because they should have payed it forward and after the lawsuit was over they should have put like 100k into it to thank the community for standing behind them.
When your able to buy a 9mil dollar mansion you should throw 100k of that into the FUPA fund, thats just greedy.
really fits the stereotype
@@scrums4748 mm how about don't say that
@@sweetie9672 wow damn that’s crazy cuz I just did
@@scrums4748 A shekel stolen is a shekel earned.
Ethan n hila live in a 9 mill mansion frfr???!
That JohnTron section was painful to watch. Its so obvious he doesnt want to talk about it.
Plot twist, this documentary is just a ploy to get Ethan to mention how a certain sociopath is harassing our boy Joon
4D chess
@@LostSox 3d snakes and ladders
@@onezerosevensix 2D fighter.
Who's harassing joon??
@@ErinJeanette the waste of a being that is LowTierGod. Check out Joon's vids, I think he uploaded a video fully showing how bad it's been within the last few videos
Here’s the thing. If anyone has a podcast with so much footage, including yourself, you will contradict yourself, and be a hypocrite, and be cancelled
That's true. I think though that the issue mostly lies with Ethan condemning other people for the same mistakes that he makes.
everyone can be called a hypocrite at some point or another, its the consistency in which you do it that can be criticized
He can certainly criticize people for making the same mistakes as him but he loses me when he completely condemns them and takes such a high ground acting so self righteous. If he was more generous with giving people the benefit of the doubt then I feel like he wouldn’t get so much backlash.
Definitely. I think it only counts as a contradiction though if you flip-flop, if you change your opinions or behaviors in light of new information that's just called growth.
Fortunately "cancelling" people never actually works. Putting stock in or looking up to youtubers is no better than idolizing celebrities- at the end of the day, they're just people. People grow and change. And when you reach a high level of success, where you're financially comfortable, it changes you. Your struggles and worries are different than they once were. Not condoning anything here- just a different perspective.
God I loved them so much back in the day, humor, charisma and entertainment was omnipresent in their content but now they're just a shell of the creators they used to be.
Now they make podcasts that feel like eating meat from a can. Corporate and tasteless. Frenemies was at least interesting.
The humor he has within the podcasts is the exact same as his humor before, only now he's making fun of people like Jordan Peterson which so many of his previous fans worshipped so now they're all butthurt.
@@dylanschmeichel2008 It isn't at all. Ethan thinks he is some intelligent philosopher. When he is some radical left nutjob. The dude was funny then became what he always truly was. A POS.
He can't take any criticism and he is a even crappier version of crappy howard stern.
you reminded me how cute ethan and hila and their story was, but also that the time i enjoyed their content was such a small moment in time. i got on board when reaction vids got them trending so before 100k
Meets Jewish wife at a Holocaust museum: "You don't even have to think about it bro"
Accurate
I've been waiting for this one, got my sushi bowl and an iced coffee, I'm set to go
Sounds like ur living the life
That sounds like the weirdest food combination, but everyone's got different tastes I guess😂
@@swanlord4292 Can report from the morning, despite ending up in the same place at the same time, they were not a good combination
I love having sushi and frappuccino.
@@maxhill7065 well, we live and we learn lol
This video reminded me why I stopped watching him. I felt myself slipping back into liking him because of the fact that he’s “exposing Trisha” (even though I already didn’t like Trisha). I do think he got super lazy & entitled. I wish he would go back to making his content like he used to, but we already know he won’t because he loves living the high life now & won’t risk losing sponsors.
@Claudia Opal there’s a difference between switching it up & selling out.
That's the irony though. He exposed Trisha after the fact of working with her. He used her as a scapegoat from the start. What a great way to divert criticism when you have someone with even worse takes than you sitting exactly to your right. And probably knowing things were going to hit the fan at some point, he was guaranteed to come out of it looking like the "moral" one.
@@saraha.3171 oh I know. That’s why I can’t stand him anymore
Even if he did go back to his old content, it wouldn't be the same.
We now know the kind of person he actually is.
"I have a psychological condition where I shut down in response to criticism."
Yeah, that condition is called being an immature manchild.