Pokémon Legends: Arceus - All Ancestors Comparison (HQ)

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  • Hi! As the game is finally officially available, I've decided to share my own experience from the game from beginning to End.
    I did absolutely everything from the game, recorded all the important stuff. If you don't want to get spoiled althought it's from a game that already existed, don't go on the internet.
    I hope you appreciate my videos content, not an easy task to do but I'm here now.
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    All gameplay and content included within this video are from my own recording and from my own gameplay using AverMedia as a source and my Nintendo Switch.
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  • @atticusv668
    @atticusv668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1939

    Cynthia's ancestors being a travelling pretty boy and an older goth mythologist is incredibly fitting

    • @Zero-gl2ou
      @Zero-gl2ou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      But with end boss pokemon battles level you'll never beat the game.

    • @Paul-yr9vk
      @Paul-yr9vk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      and their very pretty.

    • @acon70
      @acon70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @Alan Rendon
      Dude it took me 4 tries and I had to over level one of my guys to beat origin Giratina.

    • @dedsecturbotowns6069
      @dedsecturbotowns6069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@acon70 in legends Arceus? Manaphy with shadow ball, and Hisuian Samurot helped.

    • @thomashost272
      @thomashost272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Correction, a travelling pretty boy who is actually an Arceus Cultist the whole time, and a Goth Mythologist.

  • @user-xs1oy5jr3l
    @user-xs1oy5jr3l 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1952

    A note about Beni (Wally's ancestor): he mentions in post-game that he wants to settle down at a warmer region since he's getting older. Guess what's a warm region? Hoenn.
    For more context: Hoenn is based on Japan's Kyushu region, which is the country's southern islands thus, the warmer islands. Sinnoh/Hisui's based on Hokkaido- the northern islands where it's the coldest.

    • @gngskpow
      @gngskpow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      Frankly, I'm just pleasantly surprised that our beloved asthmatic good boy has *motherfucking ninjas* in his family tree. You have to go back a ways to find them, but...

    • @Cream12345Ice
      @Cream12345Ice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      @@gngskpow actually legends isn't that far in the past, the estimates by in game evidence suggest around 300 years, which is still a lot but doesn't sound thaaat ancient

    • @gustavju4686
      @gustavju4686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@gngskpow Which to those that read Pokemon Special/Adventures, it explains some of the skills he pulls off in Sky Pillar.

    • @cosmicfeather1999
      @cosmicfeather1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@gustavju4686 Yup, glad this game kinda explains HOW he's able to pull off some of the stunts in the Sky Pillar, ahh.. the manga.. i'm still reading the recent ones but the old ones will always be in my heart ^^

    • @Alex-vg9ix
      @Alex-vg9ix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      great comment

  • @user-es6eq5cf2r
    @user-es6eq5cf2r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1074

    I love how the ancestors arent exactly like their counterparts in looks, gender, occupation, and clothing. because in truth, our ancestors probably dont look exactly like us, only having some similar features tp us

    • @highjumpkick999
      @highjumpkick999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      yep! i love that touch as well. the fiction aspect allows more subtle touches to the ancestors, so thats fun.

    • @Ty-yt3lj
      @Ty-yt3lj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Except Ingo, Who I can only assume pulled a Phillip J Fry and became his own ancestor.

    • @galvsparks6295
      @galvsparks6295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      @@Ty-yt3lj not really it’s heavily implied that ingo also got isekai’d like the protagonist since he states that he comes from a world where pokemon trainers are a thing which is the future and of course him having the exact same appearance

    • @WheelStart
      @WheelStart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      "aren't exactly like their counterparts" Archie's ancestor and Mars's ancestor :

    • @patfitch6660
      @patfitch6660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@galvsparks6295 actually, he absolutely got isekaied. He's from the battle subway in gen 5. He's even wearing his conductor uniform still.

  • @malgai
    @malgai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2031

    I never actually thought of Laventon being Leon/Hop's ancestor.
    But hearing how he speaks and seeing other similarities, it actually makes sense.

    • @TheHammerGuy94
      @TheHammerGuy94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +300

      He is presumably the only character from galar. The way he speaks gives it away.

    • @AshXXMayftw
      @AshXXMayftw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +258

      It may also explain Hop's desire to become a professor at the end of SWSH.

    • @malgai
      @malgai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      @@AshXXMayftw Yeah that'd be a cool connection if this turns out to be true.
      I guess we'll wait until Laventon comes to Masters in order to hear any interesting dialog related to that.

    • @itsnathan9131
      @itsnathan9131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@malgai wouldn't Laventon be dead though cause this is all the way in the past unless they find some way to revive him lol

    • @malgai
      @malgai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@itsnathan9131 Yeah I know that, but since Legends is a mainline game, DeNa will surely have some story that involves a Celebi or even Arceus.
      For Pokemon, time travel isn't a farfetched plot point at all, just look at Legends for example or HGSS (the Celebi event).

  • @J2ojuiced95
    @J2ojuiced95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2660

    Shows how massively popular Cynthia is that she gets two ancestors in the game.

    • @khazaharto515
      @khazaharto515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +247

      @@reecemota4028 Volo and Cogita is same lineage but one is royalty and Volo isn't

    • @bobandmrmecaleb5873
      @bobandmrmecaleb5873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +303

      That's some Charizard level favoritism.

    • @queenofcups3579
      @queenofcups3579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@khazaharto515 Is Volo related to Cogita as in, that's his mom or something?

    • @-et37-
      @-et37- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@queenofcups3579 Or it might be the other thing 😳

    • @queenofcups3579
      @queenofcups3579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@-et37- His wife?

  • @szandorthe13th
    @szandorthe13th 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1450

    i love how they didnt even try to hide it with Cyllene

    • @ハム太郎
      @ハム太郎 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      also kamado

    • @fork4207
      @fork4207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +211

      Also how did galaxy go from trying to find a new home in a new unexplored land to want to rewrite reality lol

    • @lvlXshadowfox
      @lvlXshadowfox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      There's no hiding that lack of eyebrows

    • @danielsolano330
      @danielsolano330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@fork4207 just like Darth Vader or the KKK

    • @killu2later
      @killu2later 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@fork4207 it's closer to Cyrus giving up on humanity from them being to corrupt and wanted a reset.

  • @shanevb
    @shanevb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    i didnt realize that beni was supposed to be wally's ancestor until he sent out the gallade. did a double take at his hair and finally realized. always love some more recognition for my favorite character

    • @gaypiplup
      @gaypiplup 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Genuinely thought he was supposed to be Cilan when we first met him

    • @hotshot8135
      @hotshot8135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought it was Aaron from the elite 4. Think it’s kinda weird he didn’t get a ancestor cameo but who knows

    • @kyuumons
      @kyuumons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      he also has a gardevoir! part of wally's old team before oras

    • @AS-ri1mb
      @AS-ri1mb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kyuumons and he has a gallade

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not gonna lie, I thought he was Cilan's given the green goatee that kinda looked like the top of his head.

  • @MicahBlaze17
    @MicahBlaze17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1116

    It’s pretty fun finding out who’s ancestors is who! And then there’s Ingo, who is the same Ingo. This is the one game I thought we wouldn’t see a returning character for, considering it’s in the past, but seeing him here made me smile just a bit.

    • @sopaipillasss
      @sopaipillasss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +196

      yea, its kinda sad that he got separated from his family and job and then lost his memories :(

    • @pokefandylan2117
      @pokefandylan2117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      I thought that if there was going to be a returning character, it would be AZ showing up in Hisui during his travels

    • @chronomage4939
      @chronomage4939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I nearly cried when I saw him

    • @draco_meteor
      @draco_meteor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      What I love about Ingo being here is that his Japanese name is “Nobori”, which also means to climb.
      He was pulled across time and space for a long winded pun

    • @pokefandylan2117
      @pokefandylan2117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Prime501 yeah lol, i wonder why XD

  • @ghfero29
    @ghfero29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    Sadly we didn't get to see an ancestor for Barry, I would imagine a hyper lunatic merchant character trying to fine you

    • @carson3937
      @carson3937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I always assume Barry had ADHD but I guess I was wrong.

    • @callmezeldaonemoartime
      @callmezeldaonemoartime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Volkner is Barry’s dad, so he has an ancestor

    • @ghfero29
      @ghfero29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@callmezeldaonemoartime lmao no that's the tower tycoon guy I forgot his name, it's not volkner

    • @carson3937
      @carson3937 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ghfero29 I know I have no proofs to assume but I think there could be distant cousins.

    • @ghfero29
      @ghfero29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carson3937 no the originals or remakes has never confirmed this, we just know the tower tycoon guy and barry are related

  • @sebastianfernandez6146
    @sebastianfernandez6146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +444

    I didn’t expect the game to have THIS much to the whole ancestor thing, maybe just Gen 4. So cool and it adds a lot to the whole origin of the series.

  • @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv
    @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +720

    Charm is implied to be the shared ancestor to both Bertha and Agatha. Due to her mannerisms, how she dresses, and her choice of both Pokémon types, and species she uses. Also is stated to come originally from Kanto. For the Alder ancestor comparison you forgot about Alder’s grandson Benji. Who you fight in either White Tree or Black City depending on the version in the postgame. Also Buck seems to have a distinct yellow stripe while his brother and ancestor don’t.

    • @roxasbaker
      @roxasbaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Could be dye or rinse

    • @theyounglinker5044
      @theyounglinker5044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How come one be the ancestor of only one of the brothers? Unless they are step siblings, that's unquestionably.

    • @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv
      @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@theyounglinker5044 I still think they are related, but Buck inherited traits from the parent who married into the family. That or it is dye like another commenter pointed out. Still his hair is not as afroic like his other relatives.

    • @NicholasSinard
      @NicholasSinard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That can't be an Alder ancestor. Remember that there was already a hero when a space-time rift was made last time. That person, who I say is Alder, is in all clan houses. The guy in the painting has to be the hero.
      Put together that it is possible to get dragged through the rift to another time and the fact that the guy has Pokballs draping from him just like Alder (despite the tech just now being invented), and it has to be Alder

    • @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv
      @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@NicholasSinard Except Alder never had a full on beard or as much wrinkles as the one in the painting. Only a stubble. Nor was his outfit green. Alder wears tannish yellow poncho that is tattered on the edges. Plus while the hair colors is the same the style is distinct to be a different person. Face it, it's Alder and Benji's ancestor.

  • @reneantoniorodriguezippoli7561
    @reneantoniorodriguezippoli7561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +408

    It should be clarified that the protagonists (the player) is not an ancestor but a time traveler (the cinematic at the beginning of the game makes this very clear)
    although the question would be if we are the protagonists of 4 Gen (lucas and dawn)

    • @lianaverwood9810
      @lianaverwood9810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Shortly after you first enter Jubilife Village, it is mentioned that you are around the Age of 15. If you play as the Protagonist of Diamond/Pearl Lucas/Dawn, who were 10 when starting their Pokémon journey, there is a 4-5 Year Gap that the character could've spent travelling to other regions - explaining the Shirt your character is wearing at the beginning of Legends Arceus.
      The game also makes it clear your character has some amount of memory loss, as you were pulled through what is essentially an Ultra Wormhole by Arceus - thus its need to treat you like you've never experienced Pokémon before!

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Well, they could still recursively become their own ancestor through staying in Hisui and settling down.

    • @Liberaaiytb
      @Liberaaiytb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@lianaverwood9810 Because of the shirt Lucas was more likely in Galar and Dawn was in Kalos

    • @WhopsInc.
      @WhopsInc. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Lol maybe the protagonist becomes his own ancestor, that'd be some back to the future type shit

    • @what.are.you.doing.stepbro
      @what.are.you.doing.stepbro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      If u pick the male (that's lucas from the future) then Akari is the ancestor. And if u pick the female (Dawn) then Rei is ur ancestor. And no It's not an incest thing at all

  • @TheNoirNoise
    @TheNoirNoise 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1491

    I agree with all of them except for the clan leaders. I really think they were going for original characters with no ties.

    • @Retsu_07
      @Retsu_07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +353

      Yeah, everyone thinks Irida is related to either May or Serena but they don't have similarity at all.

    • @nickrussell8279
      @nickrussell8279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Agreed

    • @asprinjuice8877
      @asprinjuice8877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +197

      @@Retsu_07 Yeah, and I doubt Adaman's descendants would have ever really moved anywhere near the pokemon version of "Europe" or wherever Kalos is in the Pokemon world to have led to Sycamore being born

    • @drdeesnutts48
      @drdeesnutts48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Maybe you could make the argument for Irida and Barry.

    • @ranorunadaira1452
      @ranorunadaira1452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      I disagree. Hisuian people mostly come from another region. And remember: Hisui and Johto used to be whole (aka Sinjoh) but somehow they split, become two different regions. Also, the artist clearly makes many characters that look very similar to many NPCs in modern times. Still not confirmed yet, but based on the appearance, we can 80% assume most of the them

  • @elleipsisX
    @elleipsisX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +561

    1. In one of the side quests, you even find an Umbreon in Sanqua's office.
    2. In your early battle against Volo - when you have no access to dragons yet - he has a Gible! (After that battle I immediately went to get ice moves for my party 🤦🏻‍♀️)
    Absolutely love the references littered here and there. Can't believe I didn't register the Gardenia and Rowan connections though.
    Edit - To all those asking (and who will ask): Personally, Rowan just didn't leave as much of an impression during my gameplay as, say, the Galactic commanders or the Pokémon League folks. There wasn't anything about him that stood out - he was just the standard issue professor.

    • @mt23downpayment53
      @mt23downpayment53 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which one is professor birch’s ancestors?

    • @kartking3846
      @kartking3846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@mt23downpayment53 I think Professor Laventon is Birchs ancestor as well.

    • @deGoomyan5538
      @deGoomyan5538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mt23downpayment53 there isnt one

    • @saltator8565
      @saltator8565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Rowan is one of the most obvious ones lmao

    • @whoknows8772
      @whoknows8772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      You literally can’t tell me you didn’t recognize Rowans ancestor

  • @jameslail6930
    @jameslail6930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    I don't know if the game'll have any DLC or anything, but if they end up having like, a Mute Ronin who's Red's ancestor wandering around in it, I can die happy.

    • @Potterholic1
      @Potterholic1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Come on, Red can totally time travel (he's done literally everything else anyways).

  • @robin_silas
    @robin_silas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    I actually think Adaman and Irida are original characters. A lot of people seem to see May in Irida, but I don't think they are that similar, also I think that we would get some kind of reference if she was linked to May.
    Also I think Iscan could be Marlon's ancestor but I could be reaching.

    • @antopac4067
      @antopac4067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Irida resembles Korrina (from xy series) more than May

    • @winnschott341
      @winnschott341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Keep in mind though that Marlon isn't dark-skinned like Iscan does. He's merely super tan (you can see tan lines around his swimpants and he's quite white). I'm more subscribed to the idea that Iscan is related to Nessa.

    • @joeyjose727
      @joeyjose727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@winnschott341 yeah aren’t Marlon and Lana from Alola canonically cousins?

    • @onagle_9279
      @onagle_9279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Barry, there both the ancestor to Barry, no one can tell me otherwise

    • @aztecwrrior1997
      @aztecwrrior1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Irida looks more like Serena to me

  • @thehooded-guru
    @thehooded-guru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    When I first saw Beni uncloaked himself I legit yelled "W-wait WALLY!?"

  • @thegreatmajora5089
    @thegreatmajora5089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I'm vividly remembering how Sanqua's closet mentions "weird outfits with capes" and I swear to God thats a Clair reference, on top of the gyarados statues she wanted to build on top of the Galactic base being a potential nod to the Dragon's Den.

    • @elleipsisX
      @elleipsisX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes the capes bit! I actually thought it might be a Lance reference, and hinting at some relation between the two.

    • @dasirrlicht5415
      @dasirrlicht5415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@elleipsisX Aren't Clair and Lance related, anyways? Cousins, I think? Would be pretty unlikely to be related to one but not the other.

    • @jeanduresau
      @jeanduresau ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elleipsisX Clair and Lance are already confirmed cousins....

    • @elleipsisX
      @elleipsisX ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeanduresau OP mentioned Clair, I did not. I said that I thought it was a *Lance* reference, hinting at Sanqua's possible relation to Lance.

    • @jeanduresau
      @jeanduresau ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elleipsisX Ohh, sorry for the misunderstood.

  • @dalton8435
    @dalton8435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I love how the way you style your hair is entirely up to genetics in the Pokemon universe

    • @guccifer764
      @guccifer764 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It’s saiyan logic. A persons hair doesn’t change from the day they are born, with the exception of beards, and moustaches.

  • @rogue1248
    @rogue1248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    Even in Sinnoh Archie and Maxie's heritages are opposing forces.

    • @ianmoone4127
      @ianmoone4127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Like the Hatfields and the McCoys.

    • @artken4901
      @artken4901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So Maxie & Archie in ultra sun & moon are ancestors? Maybe? Hee~

    • @odakidakida9193
      @odakidakida9193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      basically Senju and Uchiha

  • @kiku4838
    @kiku4838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    One character I see overlooked a lot is Tuli from the Gingko Guild. I feel like she's an ancestor of Caitlin (who debuted in the 4th gen) with her sleepy eyes and blond hair.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh, true.

    • @DarthMolgy
      @DarthMolgy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She has a generic NPC design

    • @wharfey9441
      @wharfey9441 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      5th gen*

    • @AstrumKitten091
      @AstrumKitten091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@wharfey9441 4th gen* she was in the platinum battle frontier.

  • @Kyouno
    @Kyouno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +624

    You know, it would be great and a little sad at the same time if they added some kind of ancestor related to Ingo and Emmett. So Ingo won’t be really alone. Maybe the ancestor will give him a little hint of reminder about his life before he got transported to Hisui

    • @tomcooney2842
      @tomcooney2842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      if they make another legends Arceus i would be disappointed if they didnt include Emmet

    • @alexanderhussussian5653
      @alexanderhussussian5653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Quick question once you fall through the rift are you like ya know trapped in hishui forever like can you not go home to the future your like trapped in the past forever

    • @mera7488
      @mera7488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@alexanderhussussian5653 I wish I knew that too thinking about it is really sad I would be crying cause imagine losing memories of family friends old Pokémon basically everything and no way back

    • @alexanderhussussian5653
      @alexanderhussussian5653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@mera7488 considering your a child your mothers probably crying your missing

    • @thegamingpuppet8381
      @thegamingpuppet8381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@alexanderhussussian5653 God litteraly just took a child and was like you know you are staying here no going home byeee

  • @turt5880
    @turt5880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    I dont think the protagonist is the ancestor, I think it is actually them, seeing as its been hinted loads of times

    • @nexaaaaaaa
      @nexaaaaaaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      I'm pretty sure the protagonist is from a world where pokemon don't exist, that's why Arceus explained at the beggining of the game ,,you'll be now transported to a world filled with mysterious creatures ..." Or something similar to this

    • @SeekerBaracadeous
      @SeekerBaracadeous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Well. The thing is they are also wearing a Pokeball T Shirt. So they'd have to at least be a fan. Perhaps from our world if not the world of Pokemon.

    • @turt5880
      @turt5880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@nexaaaaaaa dialogue with ingo hints that they came from a world with pokemon and pokemon trainers

    • @turt5880
      @turt5880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SeekerBaracadeous yes, modern clothing

    • @spyghettighetti3066
      @spyghettighetti3066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@nexaaaaaaa During the Ingo scene they say that we also come from a world where Pokemon trainers exist.

  • @strawberrijam3676
    @strawberrijam3676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    I like that Anthe's use in the game is to make the clothing. Her descendant (Darach) is so fancy dressed hahaha

    • @neekless
      @neekless 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You mean descendant

    • @strawberrijam3676
      @strawberrijam3676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@neekless yes thank you!

    • @grundgutigertv6170
      @grundgutigertv6170 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anthe is a woman? I thought it was a lipstick wearing man xD

  • @lifeofsanaaya3163
    @lifeofsanaaya3163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    The protagonist in the games isn’t an ancestor but more so theirselves 4-5 years in the future that got sucked back in the past. Cylene does say you’re about 15 years old and game protagonist in other games are usually 10 or 11. Also pessele could be an ancestor to nurse Joy since she talks about opening up Pokémon healing facility which eventually becomes Pokémon centers which makes Mira a relative to nurse joy

    • @ArchangelRG09
      @ArchangelRG09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      More like the genderbent opposite is their ancestor, if you picked Dawn then Rei is the ancestor, if you picked Lucas then Akari likewise

    • @mattishidayeo
      @mattishidayeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ehh Nurse Joy isn't exactly a game character. IIRC she is an anime exclusive character, so it is at most a reference.

    • @ArchangelRG09
      @ArchangelRG09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@mattishidayeo how is she not a game character when she is present in literally every other game?

    • @mattishidayeo
      @mattishidayeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ArchangelRG09 the nurse isnt named in game iirc?

    • @juanpedraw4245
      @juanpedraw4245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So if I picked the boy, how would you explain the presence of Akari who also looks like Dawn? If I pick the girl, how would you explain Rei, who looks a lot like the male playable character in gen 4? Did they also come from the space-time rift?

  • @joecab1
    @joecab1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    These are great. It’s all speculation since we know we’ll never get official confirmation, but there’s no doubt for many of them, and I can’t believe I missed some obvi ones like Gardenia.

    • @Metatronio
      @Metatronio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      They actually did confirm that Kamado is Rowans ancestor when he was revealed

    • @joecab1
      @joecab1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Metatronio 😮

    • @kanedgytheguy8105
      @kanedgytheguy8105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't get the peselle one tho, she is very very obviously nurse joy

    • @Metatronio
      @Metatronio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@kanedgytheguy8105 Nurse Joy as a character doesn't really exist in the games. All of the nurses have similar designs across the generations, but there's nothing actually relating all of them together like in the anime. Peselle is the head of the Medical Corps so she has the generic nurse design of the series mixed with a character from the Sinnoh games

    • @oliverdavies5233
      @oliverdavies5233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Colas looks so dum in gardenias hair trust me COLZA GET A FUCKKING HAIRCUT THERE IS ONE IN JUBILIFE VILLAGE

  • @jameskarg3240
    @jameskarg3240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This also shows the Galaxy team once stood as a beacon of indifferent striving to a better tomorrow through cooperation.
    If Cyllene knew what her descendant would turn it into, shed balk in shame...

  • @SonOfGoth
    @SonOfGoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    I love that Charm is a ancestor to both Bertha and Agatha, using ground and ghost pokemon Rhydon and Gengar. So from a lore standpoint, them being practically twins can now be found in a potential common ancestor
    Also about Adaman being Prof. Sycamore's ancestor, while i did see that too, i also thought that Palina (Arcanine's Warden) was his ancestor, as their hair more more closely matched. When i looked a bit further, i think Adaman might be related to Acerola, as they both have a similar hairstyle and they both had a similar hands-on-hip stance.

    • @leopardbunny
      @leopardbunny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's entirely possible that some characters are ancestors to more than one character. Some characters might be distantly related that we would've never known otherwise.

    • @gamertwo6263
      @gamertwo6263 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *ancestor

    • @SonOfGoth
      @SonOfGoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gamertwo6263 funny enough, I thought I corrected that before I originally posted it. I remember noting to change "descendant" to "ancestor" and I guess I just lost the thought along the way. I've fixed it now, thanks for letting me know.

    • @elecrom_9757
      @elecrom_9757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Palina looks closer to Professor Magnolia and Sonia imo.
      Also because of their names (Agatha is Kikuko and Bertha is Kikuno in Japanese, A and B....) the theory that they are related is apparently not new^^

    • @Pangoro666
      @Pangoro666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ADAMAN is deff related to ACEROLA !!!

  • @urc-yugioh6773
    @urc-yugioh6773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I really like that they decided to add ancestor of a battle frontier character, it really was unexpected considering that battle frontiers haven't really been around and come back in the recent Pokemon main games.

  • @katerwaulie4499
    @katerwaulie4499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I'm pretty sure Pesselle is Nurse Joy and I love that. Such a cute detail, would have been cute if she'd have you bring her a Blissey or Chansey as a request.

    • @KarlaO711
      @KarlaO711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      100 of that leek was hard enough but I consider it as fair, because we get free heal at any other game from her ancestors! :)

  • @UndernetChara
    @UndernetChara 2 ปีที่แล้ว +359

    Glad to see I'm not the only one who immediately made the connection between Arezu, Bren and Coin being the ancestors of the Team Galactic commanders. Honestly my favorite Sinnoh reference in the entire game.

    • @SilverRiMiX
      @SilverRiMiX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I mean, those are some of the most obvious ones.

    • @LatchinOn
      @LatchinOn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      A rezu
      B ren
      C oin
      Idk if they did this on purpose too or not but I find it cool

    • @mttic55
      @mttic55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I'm not sold on Bren being Jupiter's ancestor. The reason being that all of the female security corp members have the same design as Bren.

    • @dantemustdie00
      @dantemustdie00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Those are pretty obvious, I don't know how folks wouldn't notice that immediately

    • @Ravengirlify
      @Ravengirlify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The little sister looks like the snowpoint city gym leaders ancestor.

  • @axelgo0077
    @axelgo0077 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Now we know that Adaman is Perrin's ancestor!

  • @erickhdz373
    @erickhdz373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    also charm could be agatha's ancestor, in the arcanine mission she carries a rhydon and a gengar

    • @wikiuser92
      @wikiuser92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Probably related to both Bertha and Agatha.

    • @Wyrm30
      @Wyrm30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I saw the same connection. Glad I'm not the only one.

    • @erickhdz373
      @erickhdz373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Wyrm30 I never noticed the same hair style on agatha and bertha until this game xD

    • @awesomeperson5150
      @awesomeperson5150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      One of Shauntal’s lines in her E4 Chamber is pointing out the similarities between Bertha’s and Agatha’s name name and appearance

    • @RandalfElVikingo
      @RandalfElVikingo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Charm is also from Kanto. The connection is just too obvious.

  • @mexi_nate4270
    @mexi_nate4270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    It’s surprising that every ancestor of the characters we know are original from hisui originally and then spread out to other regions

    • @gilldominicmendoza5202
      @gilldominicmendoza5202 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      I think it's the inverse. With the exception of volo, pretty much almost every one of them is from another region. The clans are not originally from sinnoh after all. They settled there to worship the respective sinnohs.

    • @funkycrawler619
      @funkycrawler619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@gilldominicmendoza5202 There is a theory that I think is true that the Diamond clan has predominant ancestors to Sinnoh characters and the Pearl clan has predominant ancestors to non-Sinnoh characters. Seems to be true for a majority of them.

    • @j.a.r.5974
      @j.a.r.5974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      many of them aren't from hisui, they even mention that they are JUST settling there. Thats why there's only a handful of small settlements for the clans and the one town in the entire region. Very few people in the game are actually from this region and they others moved from other places such as unova, galar and kanto.

    • @apollogarvan9446
      @apollogarvan9446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Given how Arceus, who is technically the progenitor of all pokemon, basically originates there, I'm not surprised.

    • @dasirrlicht5415
      @dasirrlicht5415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty sure the clans and the guild are Hisui originals, and the team folks are explicitly new settlers.

  • @IamayMizono
    @IamayMizono 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I like how they're taking inspiration from every Pokemon game and not just diamond and pearl.

  • @drew2031
    @drew2031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    I was hoping we'd get a super secret boss with Red's ancestor.

    • @timgorg1919
      @timgorg1919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      or an Oak ancestor

    • @musictime6717
      @musictime6717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or Ash Ancestor 🥲

    • @timgorg1919
      @timgorg1919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@musictime6717 Ash is another universe

    • @timgorg1919
      @timgorg1919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now after Pokemon Masters Ash is not another universe

    • @Potterholic1
      @Potterholic1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or just Red himself.

  • @universalsinewave7559
    @universalsinewave7559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Anthe seemed so familiar, but then I immediately recognized her descendant. Also, I'm glad they are intertwining the history of past and present. The history and culture of Pokemon are becoming richer and I love that.

  • @ciphermitarai
    @ciphermitarai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I have strong doubts about Adaman and Irida being ancestors to characters we currently know-the precedent is a much stronger resemblance than that. And, like another commenter said, Charm is a “common ancestor” to Bertha and Agatha. I also am not totally convinced on Laventon though I think it’s definitely plausible.
    (Also, Bren is just the generic design… is Jupiter descended from all the galaxy team girls?)

    • @epsilon795
      @epsilon795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Laventon is definitely Hop's ancestors
      - Same skin color and a few, less noticable physical similarities
      - Talks in English, implying he's either from Unova or Galar
      - There are Copperajahs in his homeland

    • @dasirrlicht5415
      @dasirrlicht5415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      While I agree Jupiter is a real stretch, technically, yes, they could all be her ancestors. Depends on how many generations of intermingling families you go. But nah, most likely, probably not.

    • @Cvmeleo
      @Cvmeleo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@epsilon795 Copperjah: They came over from another region long ago and worked together with humans. Their green skin is resistant to water.
      So, if his homeland is where Copperjah is... Does that mean we're getting a whole new region probably based on India or something?🙀
      Because, that's the Galar decision entry

    • @melaniebiberger2191
      @melaniebiberger2191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe irida is Mays ancrstor?

    • @ciphermitarai
      @ciphermitarai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh wait this blew up huh

  • @sebcano3704
    @sebcano3704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I love how the characters’ ancestors are completely different from their descendants

  • @mela__chan
    @mela__chan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Thank you for agreeing that Laventon is related to Leon and Hop ! I was told "No this is dumb" but I noticed the details like purple color, tanned skin and light lines on black cloth ... Plus he speaks some English words in the French version of the game I played, English in Pokemon => Galar !

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is still dumb because Laventon isn't even the only dark-skinned Galarian character in Legends. Floaro is the other named one I can think of, and there are a few more.

  • @yangwenlifangirl
    @yangwenlifangirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    I actually want Adaman and Irida ended up being together and their descendant is Barry. Irida official concept art resembles Barry's in Platinum, they both have closed mouth angry face + both closed hand fist while personality wise, Both Barry and Adaman are impatient and don't waste their time, both also have brown eyes. It also makes sense that in modern Sinnoh, Barry is the one who guides you on the statue of Eterna City which is the combination of Palkia and Dialga.

    • @khazaharto515
      @khazaharto515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Oh damn this theory is so nice

    • @karlauminga6404
      @karlauminga6404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      These two clan leaders screams Barry when they are together.

    • @x_xerax_x
      @x_xerax_x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adaman resembles a lo like Acerola in concept (your theory is really good)

    • @RealSportsMotion
      @RealSportsMotion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They are going to make a DLC for the game in April that will include Barry’s and Palmer’s Ancestor and also include Either Looker or his ancestor

    • @hwoo4978
      @hwoo4978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh wow that makes so much sense???

  • @im.eternal
    @im.eternal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I love how all the ancestors look cool and their descendants made something of themselves and then we got Wally.

    • @manuelcartagena8052
      @manuelcartagena8052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Don't knock Wally man. Sure, he starts off as a wimp but towards the end of his game he grew to be a great trainer.

    • @coffeeafters3x
      @coffeeafters3x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Lmao, but he did bounce back at the end though. I'd say his final ORAS team is the toughest to beat out of all rivals at its time.

    • @Steven-xz5xt
      @Steven-xz5xt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Don’t you diss Wally like that

    • @dedsecturbotowns6069
      @dedsecturbotowns6069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Made something of themselves? Are you including the ones that became CRIMINALS?

    • @Steven-xz5xt
      @Steven-xz5xt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@dedsecturbotowns6069 Tbf I’m pretty sure you can safely say you made It In life If you have a secret base built Inside a mountain.

  • @Nanashi20
    @Nanashi20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Sanqua is definitely an ancestor of Karen, seeing as the eevee in the room she is in turns into an Umbreon, Karen's main dark type pokemon.

  • @felipeferraz9068
    @felipeferraz9068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Lol, Cynthia's ancestor were the villain merchant Volo and Cogita.

  • @leopardbunny
    @leopardbunny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    You forgot to include Agatha with Charm, as she's also implied to be connected to her too.

  • @awesomeperson5150
    @awesomeperson5150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I think Laventon could also be Hapu’s ancestor, they both have purple hats/headdresses, and Laventon has mentioned Alola

    • @tldmimikyu5779
      @tldmimikyu5779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think that actually Laventon Is Hapu ancestor

    • @dust8585
      @dust8585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      NAH ITS YA BOI HOP

    • @fyrfytin-27
      @fyrfytin-27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      He mentioned Alola cause he visited it to get rowlet. He's very clearly from Galar.

    • @ezdepaz4363
      @ezdepaz4363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He mentions that something reminds him of the Copperajah of his homeland, so Laventon is either from Galar or from a new region. Gen 9 might be inspired by India.

    • @5cents577
      @5cents577 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lets just say that Prof. Laventon was from gen 9 region,met someone in Alola and his child or grand child go to galar

  • @Wyrm30
    @Wyrm30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Ginter looks more like Professor Birch, and Charm looks like both Bertha AND Agatha from the Kanto Elite Four. Also, if you think about it, she use a Rhydon AND a Gengar, which both Agatha and Bertha are known users of. I mean, Bertha uses Rhyperior, not Rhydon, but it still fits. Wouldn't surprise me if Agatha and Bertha are sisters as well.

    • @nukiedokie
      @nukiedokie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      He just has a beard.
      Ginter literally looks identical to Volkner.

    • @ipiinsih3655
      @ipiinsih3655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Ginter is literally older volkner how is he birch's ancestor lmfao, and it was already implied that both bertha and agatha had ties to each other

    • @darkedifenix
      @darkedifenix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      ginter is literraly the ancestor of volkner since he even has volkner official siting pose!

    • @angelrosas2556
      @angelrosas2556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Professor Birch is a literal who

    • @sergentpugsley5137
      @sergentpugsley5137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nah ginster is basically volkner. I mean, the pose, the attitude, all of it just screams volkner

  • @dapperblack3509
    @dapperblack3509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    While every other character is an ancestor
    Ingo is just existing as himself with the gift of amnesia
    Sucks that he doesnt remember his own brother emmet

  • @thecutestloli6449
    @thecutestloli6449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    4:05 is this me or i feel so nostalgic after seeing how the pokemon come out on the pokeball imean it feels so nostalgic

  • @LeHarukii
    @LeHarukii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    So you're telling me that the Professor was Hop and Leon's ancestor all along? How did I not notice that 🗿

    • @ArchangelRG09
      @ArchangelRG09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I knew something about the prof was irritating

    • @anser6500
      @anser6500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ArchangelRG09 Yeah that makes a lot of sense now that you mentioned it. I hated Hop with a passion and I disliked Laventon a lot as well. No wonder they’re related.

    • @galvsparks6295
      @galvsparks6295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@anser6500 hop ok sure (I think he’s a far better rival than asshole edgelords like Blue, silver and bede but sure) but laventon being nice to you is kind of the main point of a professor and reminder he’s the main reason you could even enter the galaxy group and live in the town because if he didn’t believe in you, you’d be left to die in the wild

    • @oliverdavies5233
      @oliverdavies5233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought it was birch’s ancestor

  • @yukiiori5157
    @yukiiori5157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was waiting so long for this video

  • @LHelios1805
    @LHelios1805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nice, didn't know some of these!

  • @dracothedraconian
    @dracothedraconian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always think with Laventon that he's the ancestor to both Chairman Rose and Peony I kinda get the friendly dad like vibe from him that Peony gave me as well as Peony's love of pokemon and Rose's love of history

  • @IceFireofVoid
    @IceFireofVoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like how a lot of the connections aren’t just in physical appearance but body language too.

  • @SEMIA123
    @SEMIA123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Isn't the player character literally the gen 4 protagonist?

    • @Cherryblossoms110
      @Cherryblossoms110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      yeah but whoever you don't choose, aka your rival, would have to be the ancestor

    • @legendaryssr678
      @legendaryssr678 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe the son / dawter of gen 4 Dawn and Lucas couple

    • @AlexanderXion
      @AlexanderXion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Ash no. Lucas JP name is Koki. Not Rei. Also Dawn JP name is Hikari not Akari

    • @aritzsantariver
      @aritzsantariver 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @ipiinsih3655
      @ipiinsih3655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ash which means rei and akari ARE NOT dawn and lucas

  • @XjerichoX12
    @XjerichoX12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I always thought that maybe Adaman and irida are the ancestor’s to Barry or either they are entirely new characters. Jupiter doesn’t make sense as all the female guards look the same.

  • @Flamne
    @Flamne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I love how your ancestor hates you at first

    • @Andrew-ch3xj
      @Andrew-ch3xj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which ancestor?

    • @ill_luck
      @ill_luck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbf most people didn’t like you at first

  • @kamou8499
    @kamou8499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    11:51 at the moment I saw this scene, I was like, BERTHA SATURN AND CANDICE? That’s messed up lmao

  • @drkpmnair
    @drkpmnair 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That volkner can't stand up bro even his ancestor is always sitting down

  • @fluxgoodra9034
    @fluxgoodra9034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Interesting how Laventon is Hop/Leon’s ancestor. I always thought he was Professor Birch’s

    • @Axioanarchist
      @Axioanarchist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I expected Charon, until I saw the later guy

    • @ipiinsih3655
      @ipiinsih3655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Was it even confirmed that Laventon is their ancestor?

    • @temmie2032
      @temmie2032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@ipiinsih3655 pretty much. In one of the dex entries narrated by him he says that in his homeland there are Copperajah iirc, so he probably comes from Galar, and he also uses some british expressions like "Jolly good"

    • @DJArnoandBob
      @DJArnoandBob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@temmie2032 oh i just thought they were doing Joseph Joestar referencesy but that hits the britain mark quite well too.

    • @itsnathan9131
      @itsnathan9131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@temmie2032 but weren't Copperajahs imported from another region? They are not native to Galar. Maybe Laventon is a ancestor of a future character in the next region game

  • @alessia6946
    @alessia6946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think that the player is Lucas/Dawn brought from the future. That would make Rei Dawn's ancestor and Akari Lucas' ancestor, and not the other way around.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or both of them get together and become Lucas/Dawn's ancestor.

    • @WhopsInc.
      @WhopsInc. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's either
      A. The non protag becomes the ancestor for the same non protag due to the fact that every game is its own universe and the universe changes depending on what gender you pick and its the same for who the protag and non protag is related to.
      B. It's some back to the future type shit and protag becomes their own ancestor
      C. The protag and non protag becomes eachothers ancestors. Or
      D. Both protag and non protag are the ancestors for dp protag and non protag but the family tree spilts way before dp
      I personally like B because it's wacky and protag seems to be stranded in hisui.

  • @aaronjordan7602
    @aaronjordan7602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Riddler said Charm is an ancestor for both Bertha and Agatha which makes sense because of Rhyperior and Gengar on her team.

  • @ashwinkanjoor819
    @ashwinkanjoor819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Charm mentioned that she was from Kanto originally, I think she’s also an ancestor to Agatha

    • @Pangoro666
      @Pangoro666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yet she’s in Hisui………… The Scarf dude THE SCARF! The HAIR dude!

  • @hunterhq295
    @hunterhq295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just realised this, Team Magma's Maxie is one that looks at progress which the diamond clan and time focus on, while Archie believes in nature's preservation and Pearl clan believing in maintaining the old ways and respecting them so fitting their ancestors are in those clans.

    • @azazel166
      @azazel166 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is also the fact that Dialga and Palkia apart from Time and Space, also represent the states of matter.
      Dialga is solid(hence the Steel type), and Palkia is liquid(hence the water type).

    • @hunterhq295
      @hunterhq295 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@azazel166 Giratina being a gas since ghost?

    • @azazel166
      @azazel166 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hunterhq295 Yes.

  • @ArthurMan2800
    @ArthurMan2800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I somewhat disagree with Charm's descendant. It says she's from Kanto, and she even has a Gengar, so i find it more fitting for it to be Agatha

    • @Syiepherze
      @Syiepherze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Charm is the common ancestor of both of them

    • @MidnightLucario1
      @MidnightLucario1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      She also has a Rhydon. Like Bertha's Rhyperior

    • @roxasbaker
      @roxasbaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It’s also stated that Bertha and Agatha have ties to each other could be sisters or relatives

    • @chrystianlennon8803
      @chrystianlennon8803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agatha and Bertha are sisters

    • @funkycrawler619
      @funkycrawler619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Charm basically confirms the theory that Agatha and Bertha are related.

  • @jinzo2678
    @jinzo2678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Okay, not all of them are obvious, but not all of those characters are based on another character in the series. Some of them were downright wrong and too original to be an ancestors.

  • @ohmaplaymaker
    @ohmaplaymaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thaaaanks, I wanted someone to make this

  • @jfb173jb
    @jfb173jb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Some of these I buy, but some are a stretch. Like the previous Pearl and Diamond clan leaders. As well as Iridia and Adaman being related to May and Sycamore.

  • @gun_n_games8019
    @gun_n_games8019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm 36 hours in and haven't even beat the main story and I loved this video, thank you recommended for once 🤣

  • @lillianshiraki6951
    @lillianshiraki6951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the Irida & Adaman connections. I never thought of that. I always thought their eyes looked like the girl & boy from the Orde region. Also Beni’s connection to food and his hair remind me Cilan

  • @may1101
    @may1101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love seeing the ones that don't feel as obvious at first glance, I wasn't expecting Adaman at all but I absolutely love the comparison now

  • @timgorg1919
    @timgorg1919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Heartwarming to see that Game Freak keep so much characters in mind. I never saw Ingo as an main character. But the developers remembered even those side characters.

  • @solierix
    @solierix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love the ost to these games

  • @Fruitman1997
    @Fruitman1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I think May and Prof. Sycamore are the definition of grasping at straws there. I would have personally said Irida looks more like Serena, but even then, I’d also say she’s in no way related or a descendant like the obvious ways others are

  • @CodeNameX001
    @CodeNameX001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact that Beni was a cook, along with the shape of his beard and the green hair originally made me think he was related to Cilan.
    Then that battle happened.

  • @mjm3091
    @mjm3091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Laventon, Adaman and Irida are very large stretch, also you forgot Agatha for Charm, as she basically is direct confirmation of Agatha and Bertha being related, theory that has been teased for years now. Also you forgot Alder's grandson.
    Personally I think they picked few characters to just be original characters.
    Laventon
    Adaman and Irida
    Iscan and Palina
    Melli and Calaba
    All the other designs and naming conventions are extremely on the nose - having convoluted choices like these don't make sense.

    • @darthdistortion1934
      @darthdistortion1934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Big agree

    • @pottern2296
      @pottern2296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eh, I dont think laventon is such a big stretch

    • @mjm3091
      @mjm3091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pottern2296 aside dark skin and maybe just maybe similar pattern between Laventon's suit and Leon's shirt and him being from Galar - there is literally no actual connection. He has different hair, face and body and there is no reference for him to the Pokemon Hop and Leon have. And the last part? If he already moved from Galar, why would he or his descendants move back really?

    • @pottern2296
      @pottern2296 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mjm3091 No yeah there's a lot of tgings against it, but far less than the clan leader

    • @mjm3091
      @mjm3091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pottern2296 sure

  • @martinhernandez222
    @martinhernandez222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1:05 Laventon seems to come from the same region as Copperajah, so, is more possible to be Rose and Peony's ancestor

    • @kumoko3728
      @kumoko3728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      could be they all share the same ancestor

    • @funkycrawler619
      @funkycrawler619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Copperajah is stated to not come from Galar originally but be imported. I think Laventon comes from Galar just not related to Rose.

  • @islandsong1251
    @islandsong1251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wally's epicness must be a common trait, his ancestor gets to be a ninja!

  • @spiritedaway0tutu
    @spiritedaway0tutu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Although some of these are stretches, I mostly concur with your analysis. I can’t believe I never made the Candice and Gardenia connections.

  • @supersonic9495
    @supersonic9495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pesselle is also the ancestor of nurse Joy because she is a nurse in this game. Also, nurse Joy is in every Pokémon game and anime.
    Sabi is also an ancestor of Hapu, the trial captain of Poni Island in Pokémon Sun/Moon because of her design. If you don’t believe me google it.
    Beni is also an ancestor of the Shadow triad because of his battle pose.
    Charm is also ancestor of both Bertha and Agatha due sharing the same hairstyles as the them, while also using both Rhydon and Gengar.

  • @rebeccalotto8001
    @rebeccalotto8001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i'll be damned , i 'd have never thought adaman could _potentially_ be an ancestor to professor sycamore.

  • @AlfieLarner18
    @AlfieLarner18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I couldn’t still believe that maxie and Archie had an ancestor in pokemon LEGENDS arceus

    • @w20h
      @w20h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But mostly from original RSE, no from ORAS.

  • @warriorpokemon1518
    @warriorpokemon1518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was only able to notice a few ancestors on my own. It makes sense that there are a lot of others.

  • @dragonking6639
    @dragonking6639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, one thing I noticed while playing the game (and probably unintentional) there was someone that gives you a side quest and he says “Remarkable!” just like the contest guy in the anime. I think it was showing someone shinx ears or glameow tail quest? I just found that funny.

  • @erebusch
    @erebusch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like that we didn’t just get sinnoh ancestors, but the ancestors of characters from different regions

    • @sheff4719
      @sheff4719 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except Alola

  • @championty3714
    @championty3714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I never even thought about that Adaman descendent could be Sycamore or Irida descendent could be May I always thought Adaman and Irida descendents might appear in gen 9

    • @mattishidayeo
      @mattishidayeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paulo from Pokemon Masters EX says hi

    • @Liberaaiytb
      @Liberaaiytb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattishidayeo That's spin off

    • @Liberaaiytb
      @Liberaaiytb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alder grandson..

    • @mattishidayeo
      @mattishidayeo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Liberaaiytb so what if it is a spin off? Also, it is the one spin off that has all the main game characters, gym leaders, etc.

    • @Liberaaiytb
      @Liberaaiytb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattishidayeo Having all main game characters it is still spin off

  • @BasedMysticPikachu
    @BasedMysticPikachu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just love how the Clay family tree just so happens to include the hat. Guess that came with the family. 🤣 🤣 🤣

  • @dreamer9398
    @dreamer9398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never thought that Laventon being Leon and Hop ancestor, but does make a lot sense in a way.

  • @jetistheswampert9166
    @jetistheswampert9166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Poor Wally guess sickness really runs in the family

  • @zobblewobble1770
    @zobblewobble1770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was convinced that Beni was the ancestor of the elite 4 Aaron, since we met him early game and I was still under the assumption that everyone was going to be from Sinnoh at that point. I was a bit surprised that he had no bug Pokémon, and I feel dumb I didn’t make the Wally connection when he sent out Gallade/Gardevoir

    • @kennyburkamp4054
      @kennyburkamp4054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And his hair and eye color plus if you talk to him post game he says stuff about disliking and getting to old for the cold climate and thinking about moving to warmer place which the gen 3 region is clearly warm and is based on a warmer climate southern island region of Japan

  • @hayleymarie9071
    @hayleymarie9071 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is my first time seeing the archie and maxie one! super neat

  • @PrincessSunnyoftheSandWings
    @PrincessSunnyoftheSandWings 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:50 Laventon is LEON AND HOPS’ ANCESTOR?!?!
    3:06 Figured that based on the hairstyle and mustache for Rowan’s ancestor
    4:40 Sanqua= Johto Elite 4 Karen’s ancestor?!?!
    6:06 ok that’s cool
    6:30 Now that’s just plain wicked!!!!
    7:03 I figured that part out before you posted this based on the hairstyle
    11:42 Coin being Saturn’s ancestor is neat
    12:26 ok now that’s adorable for her being Cheryl’s ancestor
    14:26 Makes sense since they both share similar names.
    15:12 That’s a unique twis

  • @TheFabKing23
    @TheFabKing23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Laventon almost looks like professor birch in omega ruby and alpha sapphire.

  • @lucaspiano76
    @lucaspiano76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anyone else find it weird how many references to unova there were, maybe I’m stretching things but the amount of gen 5 Pokémon that got new forms as well as the fact that there are a ton of characters that have descendants from unova, even with the original hero of hissui being a ancestor of alder, on top of that a character from black and white is also in this game. I think it may be hinting to something

    • @ScarletEarlock
      @ScarletEarlock 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was thinking the same! A lot of hints for Unova and I think Kalos.

    • @evol_x_lillygaming4740
      @evol_x_lillygaming4740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget, the only obtainable Legendaries outside of Sinnoh are the Genies, which is yes from the Unova games.

    • @lucaspiano76
      @lucaspiano76 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evol_x_lillygaming4740 yah it’s weird that they were there, and they also added a new genie on top of that. I think they are hinting to a possible legends kyurem or something? Idk

    • @theartofnina
      @theartofnina 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I joked to my friend that this game meant gen5 remakes confirmed but after the disaster that was bdsp i really don't want game freak to touch the gen5 games lol a legends game for Unova would be pretty awesome tho

  • @aceofjacks7071
    @aceofjacks7071 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    glad I'm not the only one who caught Alder, Maxie and Archie in the pictures!

  • @Rosegirl398
    @Rosegirl398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to know I’m not the only one who thinks Irida looks a little May especially the cloak thing showing the symbol of her clan having the same color scheme as May’s bow in ORAS

  • @odakidakida9193
    @odakidakida9193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think the protagonists are still Lucas/Dawn... They just met Akari/Rei who is the unchosen protagonist's ancestor

    • @drkpmnair
      @drkpmnair 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Akari/Rei are not the unchosen character's ancestor. They are YOUR ancestors

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, they're both ancestors. Yes, the player is Lucas/Dawn but given how both can be potential ancestors since IIRC there is no confirmation as to who got sent into time (though I say it should be Lucas) and the fact that both Rei and Akari are their confirmed names even with the time stuff, I still think they are their ancestors but one is from a more modern time.

  • @asmaazeghloul2710
    @asmaazeghloul2710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey dude I don't think the hero is an ancestor because in the game they told us that he is from the future

  • @tear959
    @tear959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how some random NPCs are ancestors to important characters in the future

  • @12kidcat
    @12kidcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The wally one def caught me off guard since I thought it was the first gym leader from bw this entire time