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Holy shit, I actually thought "wow nice gesture blizzard" when the extra button for the mount popped in the mount show off event. And it was an addon all along 🤣
That's a good thing. Some people actually don't like that so it gives mod authors things they can do. A lot of really good modders get their start doing these things.
Aye, I thought the same. I started using Plumber for the dream seeds in the Emerald Dream, but I loved it for its Mount Mania-button at the anniversary event. And only now realized it was Plumber who did the map indicators for bountiful delves and special assignments (and for the dragon/skyriding race medals).
I got Plumber last month just for the mountoff thing after a video mentioned its mountoff feature and forgot about it. Turns out a lot of shit I thought was just in-game ever since without even questioning it was actually Plumber.
I adore this guys work, been following him for years. I have to say, the talking head replacement is so good. I cant count the times I've wanted to pull my hair out over a big box that that takes up my entire screen. This feels so natural and it's easier to ignore, or more fluent to pay attention to. But truly, everything he makes is phenomenal. Wish he could just do the entire UI of wow. Dont forget his achievement window overhaul in narcissus.
As a Plumber user. I had no clue the addon was responsible for all those QOL features… I genuinely thought 90% of what was mentioned in this video was native to the WoW UI
It's insane that Blizzard still does not adopt or buy some of these add-ons. Especially after their mistakes with WC3/DOTA etc. This video covers at least a dozen things Plumber does that I didn't even realize it was Plumber, I had assumed they were just default UI improvements. Have spent this entire expansion thinking Blizzard had been knocking their UI out of the park and it wasn't even them!!
I wonder if it because at this point they are so deep with the addons might as well let them continue maybe? Or maybe they want people to make addons to find talent? idk
Blizzard breaks addons that perform well then steals the concept for their own, like oQueue they broke then released Groupfinder, and usually not as good as the addon was.
@@Spazzthrashers @mineurV6 I found an add on called Chatty, + your language like chatty en-US pack, you need both the Chatty + language pack and it is working so far (only a few mins) and really cool!
As a full time UI designer this video is a JOY FOR ME. These type of problems that Dialogue and Plumber addons fix are my exact/similar pain points in other MMO that I play (ESO). In addition I want to agree 100% that each of these addons are doing very good job at "disguising" them into native UI of WoW. Excellent job in terms of function and visual quality FOR A FREE PRODUCT! ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
Thanks a lot. I'm diving into these realms after a decade long hiatus and my main focus on this journey is the Lore and the flavors. These addons are a very nice touch.
I added Plumber a while after the Emerald Dream area in Dragonflight opened, when I discovered it would make planting the seeds easier, as well as announcing where you planted it & the type.
I turned off Plumbr at the end of DF but turned it back on for the anniversary event. So many of those little QoL features I thought were part of ElvUI. Haha
I installed Plumber for the Emerald Dream & haven't thought much of it since. I, like you, didn't know a lot of that stuff was Plumber - Yeah, Blizz needs to up it's game lol.
The plumber talking head module is amazing, but the loot window isn't showing me all the loot that drops all the time. Edit: Issue solved. Don't run both Leatrix Plus' "faster loot" option while also running the Plumber "fast loot" option.
One of the Dialogue features I asked for was a zoom slider to control how far it jumps in and out when talking to NPC. It got added and it's a great feature
I've already been playing for a long time with some very similar features from other addons.... I've been using "Imersion".... and "Dynamic Cam"... for a long time now. The combination of the two don't seem to have all the functionality of "Plumber", but is very similar for the visual effects on NPC interaction, and quest dialog, etc.... I couldn't imagine playing any other way. I'll have to check these two out. Thanks for the video.
The game does show you which metal you have for which race if you’re standing near the NPC that starts the races there’s a little buff icon that you mouse over to get that information.
This sounds awesome and it's making me want something as intuitive as the loot system for AH prices. Like some little icons underneath with the current sell price and green up or red down arrows for trends. There are AH addons that do this but they can be very clunky and immersion-breaking, so something that fits elegantly into a DialogueUI + Plumber setup would be a dream.
Thank you so much for the suggestions and the walkthroughs. I'm good at installation and making them look and work great. Greatly appreciate your time!
@@burnttoast26 And even if it was the exact same as an addon 80% of players use, a huge number of people would rage about how blizzard are "ruining the game"
Dialogue UI is an amazing addon and i can't play without it. I've been using it for long while now. I USED to use Immersion but DUI is much much better. I also have an addon called Expansion Reagents tiny addon that tells you what reagents came from which expansion. I'm obsessed with crafting so great for me :)
20 years later and we still can't get in-game NPC voice actors and audio quest text that has been in other games for (at a minimum) the last 15 years aside from the 'on-click' repeating voices (funny how a dead character will speak to you when you click them). Or they try to do non-voiced dialogue, but by the time you have handed in the quest and the characters start talking, you're half way around the world because it's just dialogue in your chat bar that gets buried with other text/dialogue and you totally missed out on some lore. There was a quest in Dragon Isles where this happened and I posted about it in WoWhead, got a lot of thumbs up for that one because I didn't realize the quest dialogue was separate from everything else going on. That alone would boost the game to a whole other level.
Speaking of Immersion, I think the ingame day/night cycle is such a nice touch that should be expanded upon The only ingame example of day/night making a difference I can think of are Worgen mobs switching forms in classic
Suggestion, if you are doing an addon-showcase video: Give us links to them. Yes, we can google em ourselves, but it would be very nice and convenient otherwise.
They also don't have to deal with people complaining about every feature they add or change though, since it's an addon. Every official change has that opposition to deal with from people who think inconvenience and lack of information are difficulty
Woah, like many in the comments, many of the UI stuff I thought "huh, I'm glad Blkizz made it easier to see/use that" but no, it was Plumber all along, suprised yes, but not unnexpected really
We (addon authors) been fixing blizzard bugs for two decades. The auto loot bug pissed me off for a bit too til plumber fixed it. Caching mob abilities seems like a large waste of addon memory though. but a good feature that should be baseline so addons don't have to waste memory caching it. Plumber has been fixing game for age though. even anniversary mount off event. plumber provides the actual mount up button that auto selects the mount. anyone without has to fumble to find it. So much basic stuff that should just be baseline. There are a few things I'd fix in DBM users don't even realize I fix. That immersive mod looks interesting. One thing I'd probably change in it though is kill zoom instead have it open an NPC model frame next to quest frame instead. I might install that but request that feature. 🤔
thanks so much for recommending this! i got this just before you uploaded this but I'm happy to see this being shown to others! its beautiful and I just switched from storyline to this (and I loved that one as well) I also got plumber before this as well! haha thanks Bellular! (a player whos been sorely behind due to life - I do wish blizz would slow down a bit I feel like events are just overlapping, things are overwhelming, but maybe I'm just bad) ~Mouse 🐁
Blizz needs to throw a pile of cash at Peter Yu and just incorporate his addons, for real. All of these improve the game so much, and the way Narcissus fixed Remix was night and day.
The only problem I'm having so far is that when I go to talk to a vendor that has an extra step of talking to them to open their list, it's automatically closing the box before I can see their items T^T
Big feature addons like Plumber are super usefull, But when maker of the addons quits updating we are left missing all the features we are so used to. That is what making me holding back from big feature addons.
I will never understand how this is not incredibly embarrassing for Blizzard. Why are they not the ones implementing these relatively easy quality of life changes?
Will the Plumber addon provide a guide or "what to do next" for trying to complete the required tasks necessary for getting the ability to fly on Siren Isle?
I've been a big Elvui user for years, recently thought about trying to use the Blizz UI but ultimately hate it. This actually is tempting me though. That looks fantastic, QoL wise too
I really like the post-loot window. I'm not sold on Dialogue Ui. It looks nice but its already been annoying me. It even triggers the zoom-in when you open a quest from your adventure guide, and will cancel when you run too long (as if you're talking to an NPC) I imagine it'll do the same when someone shares a quest with you...
You should check out Chatty little NPC its an addon on curse uses AI to voice act out the quest text. That combined with Immersion is amazing specially if you use the taking head for quests and have the rest of your UI blanked out while reading the quest.
It's like you presenting the result of a meta contest for the next (future) UX role on the WoW team 😅. Tbh so many of these things should be in there by default... What a shame for the people that wrote all these seemingly nice texts that end up being skipped anyway... (you have my vote Peter Yu!!)
Do you know if you can mix it up with the "Immersion" (adds nice talking heads in a more classic rpg dialogbox egg.) AddOn? Think might be great with the automatic zoom.
OH! So Plumber was why people just kept telling me to press the mount button to summon mounts instead of having the mount tab open. xD Okay, that makes W A Y more sense now.
I wish the text-to-speech offers more depth. I believe it already does male and female differences, but i'd like to be able to choose other speeches for different races as well.
and I was wondering if everyone is suffering with that loot .... good that I followed Bellular :) I love the plumber and even the ui it brings its super cool and convenient
I would say they should hire him, but the thing is I'm sure they have people who are just as talented and (because of the mechanics of actually working at Blizzard) are unable to do the kind of stuff he does.
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Just now noticed that all Narcissus, Plumber & Dialogue UI are the same dev! Holy crap. Blizzard needs to hire this guy to be their UI designer.
Holy shit, I actually thought "wow nice gesture blizzard" when the extra button for the mount popped in the mount show off event.
And it was an addon all along 🤣
Yeah, that's what I had been thinking.
SO many features I thought Blizzard did SUPER well.... Was just plumber the whole time. What a shame, also fucking sick.
Why is that a shame? Mod devs often get their start making mods. The game leaves space for creative development.
That's a good thing. Some people actually don't like that so it gives mod authors things they can do. A lot of really good modders get their start doing these things.
Blizzard has come a good ways with ui and other features, I'm glad they allow mods like these so that we can have them ourselves one way or another.
Aye, I thought the same. I started using Plumber for the dream seeds in the Emerald Dream, but I loved it for its Mount Mania-button at the anniversary event. And only now realized it was Plumber who did the map indicators for bountiful delves and special assignments (and for the dragon/skyriding race medals).
I got Plumber last month just for the mountoff thing after a video mentioned its mountoff feature and forgot about it. Turns out a lot of shit I thought was just in-game ever since without even questioning it was actually Plumber.
I adore this guys work, been following him for years. I have to say, the talking head replacement is so good. I cant count the times I've wanted to pull my hair out over a big box that that takes up my entire screen. This feels so natural and it's easier to ignore, or more fluent to pay attention to. But truly, everything he makes is phenomenal. Wish he could just do the entire UI of wow. Dont forget his achievement window overhaul in narcissus.
Started using Dialogue UI cause of your previous recommendation and it's been stellar. Makes side quests in particular far more engaging to me
As a Plumber user. I had no clue the addon was responsible for all those QOL features… I genuinely thought 90% of what was mentioned in this video was native to the WoW UI
Same here! 😂
It's insane that Blizzard still does not adopt or buy some of these add-ons. Especially after their mistakes with WC3/DOTA etc.
This video covers at least a dozen things Plumber does that I didn't even realize it was Plumber, I had assumed they were just default UI improvements. Have spent this entire expansion thinking Blizzard had been knocking their UI out of the park and it wasn't even them!!
I wonder if it because at this point they are so deep with the addons might as well let them continue maybe? Or maybe they want people to make addons to find talent? idk
Blizzard breaks addons that perform well then steals the concept for their own, like oQueue they broke then released Groupfinder, and usually not as good as the addon was.
VoiceOver addon is compatible with Dialogue UI, it takes the narroation to yet another level!
What do you mean ? Even on retail ??
Im also wondering what you mean, do they have a voiceover addon for retail now? If so thats awesome
@@Spazzthrashers @mineurV6 I found an add on called Chatty, + your language like chatty en-US pack, you need both the Chatty + language pack and it is working so far (only a few mins) and really cool!
As a full time UI designer this video is a JOY FOR ME. These type of problems that Dialogue and Plumber addons fix are my exact/similar pain points in other MMO that I play (ESO).
In addition I want to agree 100% that each of these addons are doing very good job at "disguising" them into native UI of WoW. Excellent job in terms of function and visual quality FOR A FREE PRODUCT! ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
Thanks a lot. I'm diving into these realms after a decade long hiatus and my main focus on this journey is the Lore and the flavors. These addons are a very nice touch.
FINALLY someone tells me what that dialog addon is called, THANK YOU
I added Plumber a while after the Emerald Dream area in Dragonflight opened, when I discovered it would make planting the seeds easier, as well as announcing where you planted it & the type.
I turned off Plumbr at the end of DF but turned it back on for the anniversary event. So many of those little QoL features I thought were part of ElvUI. Haha
Plumber was the only thing that made interacting with seeds in the Emerald Dream tolerable.
Holy crap. All the QOL stuff I liked was Plumber all along?!
I installed Plumber for the Emerald Dream & haven't thought much of it since. I, like you, didn't know a lot of that stuff was Plumber - Yeah, Blizz needs to up it's game lol.
The plumber talking head module is amazing, but the loot window isn't showing me all the loot that drops all the time.
Edit: Issue solved. Don't run both Leatrix Plus' "faster loot" option while also running the Plumber "fast loot" option.
THANK YOU, I never understood why it wasn't showing all the freaking loot, now I know. many thanks man
@@GabrielLima-uf8im np, glad it helped. :)
I didn't even realise it was plumb2r with all those quality of life stuff haha
One of the Dialogue features I asked for was a zoom slider to control how far it jumps in and out when talking to NPC. It got added and it's a great feature
I've already been playing for a long time with some very similar features from other addons.... I've been using "Imersion".... and "Dynamic Cam"... for a long time now. The combination of the two don't seem to have all the functionality of "Plumber", but is very similar for the visual effects on NPC interaction, and quest dialog, etc.... I couldn't imagine playing any other way. I'll have to check these two out. Thanks for the video.
The loot window can also be adjusted in edit mode.
Thank you Bellular , Matt and Peter, I already use Plumber but not the UI one I just installed it and I will give it a try
The game does show you which metal you have for which race if you’re standing near the NPC that starts the races there’s a little buff icon that you mouse over to get that information.
This is fantastic! Thank you so much! So far I have solved many of the features of Plumber with individual addons. Time to change!
LOVE dialogue ui, it makes it so much nicer to read quests.
This sounds awesome and it's making me want something as intuitive as the loot system for AH prices. Like some little icons underneath with the current sell price and green up or red down arrows for trends. There are AH addons that do this but they can be very clunky and immersion-breaking, so something that fits elegantly into a DialogueUI + Plumber setup would be a dream.
Soon as I get home tonight I'm downloading both these addons. OMG these look awesome and will solve lots of my grips
Knew about DIalogueUI but didn't know about Plumber. Amazing addon. Thanks!
Thank you so much for the suggestions and the walkthroughs. I'm good at installation and making them look and work great. Greatly appreciate your time!
7:41 what we all feared has been confirmed. he would have literally killed to have this addon.
I saw this as he said it and lold
Two decades of WoW development and still there's addons considered 'must haves' for core parts of their game.
To be fair, if Blizz themselves did it, it would turn out way worse than the addon
“Must have” is completely subjective
@@burnttoast26 And even if it was the exact same as an addon 80% of players use, a huge number of people would rage about how blizzard are "ruining the game"
That adds to the nostalgic feel for us old heads. If you want it all to be solved by the devs, probably best to find something else bud.
Dialogue UI is an amazing addon and i can't play without it. I've been using it for long while now. I USED to use Immersion but DUI is much much better. I also have an addon called Expansion Reagents tiny addon that tells you what reagents came from which expansion. I'm obsessed with crafting so great for me :)
Thanks trying them out now (Dialogue UI and Plumber)
I only downloaded Plumber for the seeds in Emerald Dreams. Nice to know that the addon does so much more!
20 years later and we still can't get in-game NPC voice actors and audio quest text that has been in other games for (at a minimum) the last 15 years aside from the 'on-click' repeating voices (funny how a dead character will speak to you when you click them).
Or they try to do non-voiced dialogue, but by the time you have handed in the quest and the characters start talking, you're half way around the world because it's just dialogue in your chat bar that gets buried with other text/dialogue and you totally missed out on some lore. There was a quest in Dragon Isles where this happened and I posted about it in WoWhead, got a lot of thumbs up for that one because I didn't realize the quest dialogue was separate from everything else going on.
That alone would boost the game to a whole other level.
Speaking of Immersion, I think the ingame day/night cycle is such a nice touch that should be expanded upon
The only ingame example of day/night making a difference I can think of are Worgen mobs switching forms in classic
nice one, thanks for this video, i used to use the other story addon but i think i will give this one a try if i get to it
Suggestion, if you are doing an addon-showcase video: Give us links to them. Yes, we can google em ourselves, but it would be very nice and convenient otherwise.
When modd makers care more about the player experience then the people actually making the game
blizzard doesn't play the game its pretty obvious. otherwise they would fix it
They also don't have to deal with people complaining about every feature they add or change though, since it's an addon. Every official change has that opposition to deal with from people who think inconvenience and lack of information are difficulty
Immersion is also quite nice to replace the standard dialogue interface.
Thanks for your tips about those addons! I'll get plumber now to!
Lol was not prepared to see the square in the small town i work in randomly appear in that sponsor spot😅
Did you know the skyriding medals also appear in the tooltip of the buff that you get near a course starting point.
I use DialogueUI and I can confirm it is AMAZING!!
Woah, like many in the comments, many of the UI stuff I thought "huh, I'm glad Blkizz made it easier to see/use that" but no, it was Plumber all along, suprised yes, but not unnexpected really
I only installed plumber back than for the easy seed planting. Now looking at everything it does, damn. I thought it is from the game itself. xD
Got back into playing wow last year on the steam deck. These and console port have been my must have mods.
We (addon authors) been fixing blizzard bugs for two decades. The auto loot bug pissed me off for a bit too til plumber fixed it. Caching mob abilities seems like a large waste of addon memory though. but a good feature that should be baseline so addons don't have to waste memory caching it. Plumber has been fixing game for age though. even anniversary mount off event. plumber provides the actual mount up button that auto selects the mount. anyone without has to fumble to find it. So much basic stuff that should just be baseline.
There are a few things I'd fix in DBM users don't even realize I fix.
That immersive mod looks interesting. One thing I'd probably change in it though is kill zoom instead have it open an NPC model frame next to quest frame instead. I might install that but request that feature. 🤔
Model frames tend to eat FPS, so I'd be curious how well that goes
I admire people like Peter Yu
thanks so much for recommending this! i got this just before you uploaded this but I'm happy to see this being shown to others! its beautiful and I just switched from storyline to this (and I loved that one as well) I also got plumber before this as well! haha thanks Bellular!
(a player whos been sorely behind due to life - I do wish blizz would slow down a bit I feel like events are just overlapping, things are overwhelming, but maybe I'm just bad)
~Mouse 🐁
It's a bit concerning one person can/wants to improve the game more than a multi billion dollar company.
Plumber is lowkey one of the best addons of the modern era
For plumber, in the loot window, I dont have the option for "force auto loot". Did they remove that?
Blizz needs to throw a pile of cash at Peter Yu and just incorporate his addons, for real. All of these improve the game so much, and the way Narcissus fixed Remix was night and day.
Thank goodness ive been an addon player from day one, and never even knew SOOOOO many of these cool features werent even Bliz XD
TIL a bunch of the stuff I thought was in the game was actually done by plumber.
Plumber is crazy good, literally most of that stuff you mentioned I also assumed was blizzard UI
Both great addons, been using them for a while, game changing!
The only problem I'm having so far is that when I go to talk to a vendor that has an extra step of talking to them to open their list, it's automatically closing the box before I can see their items T^T
Voiceover addon would be a game changer for wow, playing turtle wow with it, AI did great job voicing each race
I am actually now thinking if I liked the S1 campaign because of Dialogue UI. I noticed all NPCs..
I'll check out Plumber.
impressed with your videos, thanks for all the help! You got me to subscribe!
Big feature addons like Plumber are super usefull, But when maker of the addons quits updating we are left missing all the features we are so used to.
That is what making me holding back from big feature addons.
Blizzard just hire this guy for your UI team
I will never understand how this is not incredibly embarrassing for Blizzard. Why are they not the ones implementing these relatively easy quality of life changes?
Will the Plumber addon provide a guide or "what to do next" for trying to complete the required tasks necessary for getting the ability to fly on Siren Isle?
I'm so excited to try these. Thanks :)
20 years and you still need addons to make this game better...
Almost every feature plumber added I thought was a blizzard addition holy shit
fuckin hell I've had Plumber for ages.. never realized I had to turn the shit on!
What is the addon showing the larger vendor window at 9:26??
Could be "Krowi's Extended Vendor UI" (it's the one I use for such)
I've been a big Elvui user for years, recently thought about trying to use the Blizz UI but ultimately hate it. This actually is tempting me though. That looks fantastic, QoL wise too
I really like the post-loot window. I'm not sold on Dialogue Ui. It looks nice but its already been annoying me. It even triggers the zoom-in when you open a quest from your adventure guide, and will cancel when you run too long (as if you're talking to an NPC)
I imagine it'll do the same when someone shares a quest with you...
to emphasize how well it integrates into ui.... I forgot I had Plummer installed till this video 😲
Do these addons replace immersion
yes i think so. i will probably swap to dialog
Well done ,Thanks im def gonna use it .
You should check out Chatty little NPC its an addon on curse uses AI to voice act out the quest text. That combined with Immersion is amazing specially if you use the taking head for quests and have the rest of your UI blanked out while reading the quest.
It's like you presenting the result of a meta contest for the next (future) UX role on the WoW team 😅.
Tbh so many of these things should be in there by default...
What a shame for the people that wrote all these seemingly nice texts that end up being skipped anyway...
(you have my vote Peter Yu!!)
Excellent video - thank you!
I've always played Warcraft the way it's meant to be played, stock, vanilla, no addons (or cheats)
That's boring tho
Does anyone know what nameplates those are??
Wait so the mount off button wasn't built in to the game? I was wondering why people were asking me "what button"
Do you know if you can mix it up with the "Immersion" (adds nice talking heads in a more classic rpg dialogbox egg.) AddOn? Think might be great with the automatic zoom.
Man, wish they never squashed you Voiceover project. Questing would have been greatly improved with that.
OH! So Plumber was why people just kept telling me to press the mount button to summon mounts instead of having the mount tab open. xD Okay, that makes W A Y more sense now.
honestly they should just hire Peter
They changed the game for me. Thx.
I wish the text-to-speech offers more depth. I believe it already does male and female differences, but i'd like to be able to choose other speeches for different races as well.
Do we have anything for the stupid titles bug? Thanks in advance.
and I was wondering if everyone is suffering with that loot .... good that I followed Bellular :) I love the plumber and even the ui it brings its super cool and convenient
True, but at the same time I use quickquest for any Alt, because I couldn't care less about quest dialogs.
SO two more addons that play a bit more of the game for us!
I would say they should hire him, but the thing is I'm sure they have people who are just as talented and (because of the mechanics of actually working at Blizzard) are unable to do the kind of stuff he does.
How this addons impact performance ?
Sadly there is one massive oversight on Dialogue UI: The line about your warband having done the quest is missing.
There is a watermark in the quest dialog that shows when your warband completed the quest. Can’t remember if you can hover over it for a tooltip.
@@Goshified Ace! Thank you! And yes, there is a tooltip as well.
Korbin, my man Korbin... I have no EDC.
Can I join the cool kids and get one?
Is this a rave now that we have EDC? :D
quest auto accept/turn in goes brrrrrr
Why even play an RPG?
I love your addon videos!
Does it work for classic?