The Flysurfer Peak4 (Why Every Foiler Should Consider Owning One)
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This video covers an item I believe every free ride hydrofoiler should consider owning. The Peak4 kite from Flysurfer has many uses and can be a great on the water kite for your foil adventures. It won't boost, but it is very playful, safe in high winds, and makes your foot switch game that much better. Consider the Peak4 in your arsenal and let me know your thoughts after giving it a ride.
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I've been using a 3m and 4m for several months now and love them.
I made my own bar and line sets (much cheaper) out of carbon. Less than 1kg for kite, bar and lines can't be bad :)
I have had a couple of swims (definitely my fault) - It's sooooo easy to packup in the water compared to anything else! Wrap up the lines and bundle the kite down the front of your impact vest. Really easy :)
Keep up the good work. Love the videos.
PS - I definitely agree with crusher2u and his assessment.
As a result of watching this video, I purchased a Peak 5, 8m. Sometimes the trip to the beach can be over an hour so I've been land-boarding in a variety of local parks and ovals. Having less lift than my Souls, I don't feel like I'm going to die when a gust hits. Hydro foiling in around 10 knots is pure joy. Twin tipping in 15-20 knots is possible but you have to work hard to jump about half the height (or hangtime) of a Soul. It was never intended as a big air weapon! I feel like it's the ideal multi-sport tool I can get the kids trained up on as well for land-boarding.
Agree Richard. I’m waiting to try the Peak5 as well. The Peaks are the way to go to train kids safely.
Great video OK. I've used the Peak4 for hydrofoiling for over a year now and love it. It's so forgiving of rider errors and every time I give another foiler a demo of this kite they love it!
There are now three of us using the Peak4 at our local beach, mainly in 5m size. While I have the Flysurfer bar which is sold for the Peak4, the other Peak4 users are using their various other brand 4 line bars without any problem. I don't bother with the 5th line as it's really only relevant for land or snow. I have also used the Peak4 with a twin tip and surfboard and jumped with it as well, although not as high as a Soul or LEI kite. Fantastic drift makes it a great kite for wave riding.
I would definitely agree with OK Kiteboarder, if you hydrofoil, especially with a surf foil, you'll love having a Peak4 or two in your quiver. With such a low price you'd be crazy not to ;-)
Crushed, thanks for the feedback. I’ve got to see you boosting on a Peak4!
I"m thinking between 4m and 5m size for strong winds. Why did you choose 5m ? Even though Im 70 kg rider, I think that 4m will be to weak to pull me on twintip or on a snowboard.
@@aleshaborisovich 5m Peak4 suits our strong summer seabreezes on a surf foil. However I have all sizes from 3m to 8m so I can choose the size to suit the wind and my 65kg.
You will need a larger size for a twin tip compared to a hydrofoil. The Peak4 suits hydrofoiling with surf foils better than any other kites I have tried.
I fully agree with you. I have 4m and 13m for snowkiting and cover from 1,5 m/s to 15 m/s ))) and my 9 years son learns to kite with 4m even when 15m ballon kite doesn’t fly at all
Very nice and instructive video, as always. I tried the Peak4 - 4m, the FireFly 4m (from ConceptAir) and the Kitech FRS 4m: by far, the most pleasureable was the Kitech because of its lack of flapping, whatever the wind. It packs nearly as small as the Peak and FireFly, but flies smoothly in any wind from 4-5 knots to 30 knots when I had to stop since I was foiling. And of course, no worries for relaunch should you dip it.
Are you still using Kitech? Would you recommend it for low wind sub 9kts over peak?
@@vim55k Good day Pavel: in 9kt (I am foiling) I am between a 9m and 12m Kitech. Personally I far prefer the Kitech because it is a double surface, it has a very nice aerodynamic behavior and never flutters in the wind. I fly only Kitech; from 5 to ~9 kt, I use a 15m UL; from ~8 to 13kt, I use the 12m; from 10 to 17kt, I use the 9m; from 14 to 22 kt, the 6m; and from 18 to 28 kt, the 4m. I weigh 67 kg and use a Moses 679 foil. I hope this helps.
This should be must-see for foilers, nice job!
Appreciate that!
wow, someone has some good video production skills. great video
Thx Robin!
Sounds like you are getting better than just ok...lol
Thanks for a cheaper option for us foilers.
We have spent a fortune on all our foiling gear.
Thx Aero!
Last fall i was windfoiling with my biggest sail a 7.3 on a sketchy wind direction and my kiter friend I hadn't seen in ages showed up with a 5m Peak riding a lunchtray of a board. He was absolutely slaying it. I couldn't believe it. It would have easily been 9m single strut conditions. It made me want one.
The Peak4 is probably my favorite kite currently.
Good stuff - but I have to say I'm scared to death if it were to ever hit the water. I wish you showed a water relaunch...
Andrew, I was planning on doing that portion, but my wind forecast dies here in Oklahoma. Sorry 😐.
@@TheOKKiteboarder Thanks for the response. Are you saying a water relaunch is possible?
Andrew Eberhardt yes. A quick one.
I re-launch Peak4s at least twice every session. The only way it ever hits the water for me is leading edge first. Because it never back-stalls if trimmed right. Then i quickly reverse re-launch it. Did swim a few times when just started using it. But not anymore.
Thank you
Love that kite!
Very cool. I fly Souls and Sonics in a location that only sees wind >25 knots rarely, so spending money on a ram air kite rated that high has always seemed like a waste of money. With the price that low and multiple positive reviews coming out from water-based users, I’m definitely going to have to try one out.
I wish I would carry through the winter with a bare feet...
Just turning the corner here in Oklahoma.
well same as the Gin Marabou, minus the benefit of the closed cell.
but price......
The OK Kiteboarder the marabou is much cheaper than most fly surfer really. Forgot to mention relaunch as well ;)
@@rben26 It doesn't really matter if it's much cheaper than "most Flysurfers" because it's still about twice as expensive as the Peak 4.
@@TylerKaraszewski
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Great video!
Thanks!
Thanks!
Definitely the best value for money that Flysurfer offers - just avoid water contact!
I have a peak 5, 5 & 8m. Still I haven’t use them on water since I have big Lei kites. But I was wondering if a 2,5m & 13m would be a good addiction for the super windy and low wind days (both at snow and sea)
In my experience, the 13m is just too large on the water, especially in gusty conditions when the low is very low and then it maxes out very easily. I think the 2.5 would be a good decision though.
@@TheOKKiteboarderthanks for the feedback. Ok so a 2,5m for snow & water. & for the low foiling days i can still keep using my big Strutless Lei kites. I have even a 19m strutless 😅 but it deforms a lot and the canopy can get inverted easily. Relaunch almost impossible.
Datasets with own experience available for each Peak size re wind ams foilsize?
Hey, are you still using the peaks when foiling? I have been looking at single skins for the extra light days. What size would you recommend for 10mph or less days? I usually ride an 8m neo. Also, have you tried the gin marabou? Seems like a nice single skin but with the closed cell leading edge for the water.
I have a 6m Peak5 which can get really close to the 10mph range. They are really good kites. The 8m I don’t like quite as well but would go even lower.
I really want to try one, very atractive! Is it good for 10 knots wind? For 10 knots do you recomend 10m Peak?
11 or 13m for 10 knots. The larger sizes are not as “active” though.
I'd like to try one of these, but I really doubt it's gonna sail the angles I want to sail.
I just don't think I'll be going upwind like that on a Peak, as interesting as the kite seems. Also, "you probably can't tack on it" isn't a great selling point. :) I'm currently trying out a similar travel quiver to you, but a bit different: 6/10m Souls. Still light and easy to pack. Taking them to Hawaii in two weeks so we'll see how that goes, assuming the trip doesn't get cancelled due to coronavirus.
Tyler, you’re right. You won’t have the upwind angles you get on the Soul. On tacking....you could probably tack on a Peak. I just can’t 🥴.
Enjoy the islands!
Flew my Peaks and Souls on Maui. Peak4 drift way better then Souls in waves. I had Souls too. I could not outrun Peak4 surfing waves. Also Peaks are MUUCH faster flying through the wind window in transitions and looping. And with a 95 cm mast that kite points very well. The smaller the kite - the better it points. At home i only use 5 m and 8 m. If any LEI flies at all on the beach 8 m Peak4 is plenty with 1200 sq.cm. front foil wing.
@@TheOKKiteboarder do you mean not as good upwind as a foil kite? Is it better upwind then a cloud or a lei?
Drew Foehn it sits pretty deep in the WW. In my opinion less upwind performance than most kites period. I can’t compare it to a cloud (never kited under one).
Why did you choose Peak4 4m and not 5m? Would you choose 5m if you had a twin tip board instead of hydrofoil?
Well shortly after the 4m purchase I went with the 5m for conditions of 12-20mph winds. I would not recommend the Peak4 for twintip riding.
@@TheOKKiteboarder Why you would not recommend Peak for twintip? I used Peak 2 9m with twintip 40x160cm in winds from 4m/s to 10m/s. But in 10m/s wind I was owerpowered. My weight is 70kg. Then I sold peak and bought fs lotus kites. But as I travel with my bagpack to kiting spots its difficult to carry two kites (for examplle 18m and 12m ). Thats why Im selling lotus kites at the moment. I just sold lotus 8m and 12m. 18m lotus is on sale at the moment. Then I wanna buy Peak 5m or 4m, 8m and
13m because I think I can carry them in one bagpack easy and use one bar only for all of them. And these 3 kites I guess will cover almost all wind conditions.
What do you think, can I use just one bar 60sm for three of them?
Great video man! I have a 4m and 6m and I'm totally in love with them, foiling in a lot of different conditions here in Sardinia island. I have just a question for you: I'd like to buy a last size, I'm thinking about the Peak 11m but you wrote you are not a good fun of big Peak size, so maybe you suggest a soul 10m? Tnks a lot
All depends on your local conditions. My experience was that the larger Peak sizes didn’t perform as well in gusty conditions. With that being said, the Soul, also does not excel in gusty conditions. If you ride in areas with consistent winds, you can’t go wrong with these.
Thank you for the review. I’m beginning to hydrofoil and wind is light (~8 knots) in my area. Since it’ll be a while before I start jumping, do you think a 13m peak4 would be a good choice?
If you have steady winds...yes. But if you have gusty conditions.....the 13m may not be the best choice.
Very interesting indeed! I started kiteing in 2000 with the first 4 liners from cabrinha. Almost no depower. Quickly transitioned to different Flysurfer kites, but for the 10 last years i have been on North Tube kites. Living in an area i Norway where the wind quickly becomes gusty above 20 knots and my prefered kites is a 9 NEO (2016) and a older 7 NEO. I have gotten rid of all my "BIG" kites after i started foilboarding. My 7 and 9 covers everything and if the wind picks up a switch into strappless surfboarding. I noticed your comparison video on the new Doutone Neo (i almost bought one last week) and the Alula Roam. But now i am more into the peak 4 :-). Thinking maybe the 4 meter is a little small and wants to go for the 5 or 6? How much power will you get from these kites? I'm 75 kilo riding a foil with 850 front wing....
Kjetil, the 5M Peak4 I am comfortable powered on a 900 cm2 wing in winds of 12-20 mph and the 4m in winds of 16-30mph winds.
Very, very interesanting! I love foiling whit foilkite, I feel it gently (soft) more lift, great in light wind,... But I've never tried a one strut light wind kite (only 3/5 strut), is it similar in those things when foiling? (of course faster, but what el se? )
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Great video! Thanks I am sold.
For lake foiling 8-12 knots what size do you recommend? 80kg 633 foil.
Serge, 8-12 is tough. I would ride the Soul in those conditions. I’m not as big a fan of the large Peak4 sizes. For 13-20 knots though the 5m would be great. Possibly the 6m in the 10knot and up, I just haven’t tried it yet.
What control bar do you use with the Peak 4? Do you have to use a different bar for the Peak 4 than what you use for your Flysurfer Soul? I reached out to Flysurfer & they recommend their Connect bar f/ the Peak 4 & the Infinity or Force bar f/ the Soul. I’d like to purchase the 2 kites, but would prefer to not have to purchase 2 bars.
Use any bar. High/Low V doesn’t matter. I use the FS Force Bar and the Core Bar on all my Peak4 kites.
Where can I get the wind meter @1:40 ?
You can find those wind bongs on most aeronautical accessory websites.
Hi, I own PEAK 4, size 8, and 5
Do you have a method to launch the kite from yacht ? (not a dift lounch)
Probably would have to have you in the water and someone downwind on the boat holding the peak (probably 5m) for a hot launch.
What model wind meter is that at 1:40min ? Thanks
I’m sorry it’s a custom that my buddy pieced together.
hallwindmeter
Is that a Joey diaz sound bite
Lol. I’m not sure 🤔.
You forget to tell it need a special 5 line bar. So for me the benefit of light weight and price isn’t there.
It doesn’t need a special 5 line bar. I have used many other 4 line bar setups with the kite.
The OK Kiteboarder ok if you try.
But Flysurfer has a 5 line connect bar with high Y for this peak kite.
The infinity and force bar have 4 lines and low V.
@@andreaspoke8273 Most Peak4 Hydrofoilers are using 4 lines bars with front line safety.
I asked flysurfer if can I use with 4 line bar and they told me that it is possible to use it that’s way. Of course they recommend use 5 line bar due to higher safety for child. But first winter my son dies his kite trainings with 4 line bar.
I have 4 Peaks4’s which i use with infinity bars. Infinity bar converts to 5 lines in under 5 min. I use the same bar with Peaks and Souls.