@@TheOKKiteboarder BTW, what i've noticed from all videos about this kite - they are all in size of 7.5. Is there a reason for that, like Flysurfer only gives out this size first? Considering that all sizes are available on sale.
Thx. I’m not sure about future content. Since all of the quality content has been released by creators like Damo and others, I’m not sure there’s a need for releases from channels like mine. Thx for asking and appreciate the kind words.
Hi, very interesting, thank you. It raises a few questions though: 1- I can foil down to about 7kts with a SS UFO 9m (strutless LEI), what would be the foiling low end of the Hybrid and what size would be required to foil in, say 4+ KTS if that's possible? 2- What are the upwind performances? The Peak flies in no wind but seems lacking in upwind performance. 3- This concept is the same as Gin's Marabou. The Marabou 1 was not a success and was completely redesigned. The Marabou 2 was released earlier this year, a comparison would be great. 4- In the Ultra light wind (< 8kts) foiling category, it seems the players are the Hyperlink, the Peak5, The Soul, the Chrono and possibly the UFO V2 in 11m. Could you do a video on ultra light wind foiling comparing those different kites?
@@mikemiller774 That's what I'm trying to find out. I live on an island without any shop or opportunity to test gear and what I see online varies wildly. Some people use large size foil kites (15-20m) , some people say that in super light wind you need single skin kites like the Peaks, some people say Hyperlinks would be better because they fly in lighter winds and fly faster than the Soul and have better upwind than the Peaks and some ppl say the UFO 11m would actually go down to 4-5 kts... Then there's the hybrids (both the Flysurfer one and the Gin Marabou 2). So I'm trying to figure it out from people who are actually using those kites.
@@mikejablonski8510 Yes... As measured by a hand held wind gauge at beach level, so there is probably a bit more higher up but not much. The kite will fly in less but I can't get enough power out of it to water start below 7kts.
"relaunchability" in flat water, OK, but what about a wave going over it when it's down? The Peak's drifting ability makes it the absolute weapon of choice for wave-riding on a foil, but once you drop it and it gets hit by a wave, forget it, you're swimming in. I doubt this new hybrid would be any better? Would be nice to see some footage if it is.
Had a bad experience this summer with a peak. Crashed the kite would not relauch and submerged and turned into a fishing net. If I wasn't 200m from shore and the wind was stronger I would have had to cut my lines and abandon the kite. Turned into an anchor. Haven't flow any foil kites since
Yep spent to much time trying to relaunch before wrapping up lines. I had about a minute window before it submerged. Great kite when it's in the air. The five sessions prior to my kitemare where alot of fun. I recommend using a good flotation vest and having support boats on standby just in case. Swimming a wet rag to shore was no fun
Had a few swim in myself with the Peaks. Once submerged they do become a full on anchor that will drag like crazy. Great kites but don't take em out too far from shore.
I take my peaks out as far as i can swimm, about 2 miles with an inflatable restube. When it crashes and doesn't relaunch you want to make sure your not keeping line tension under water or the kite will "fly" down underwater especially in waves. So be quick, or prepared to leave the kite.
I see many struggle to wind up the 21m lines in time. Has anybody tried the peak with really short lines like 10m? I assume the relaunch would be much easier. One might use a bigger size peak though.
I’m still around. Busy raising a family etc. but still open to videos in the future. But to be honest, there’s such great material out there now, there’s really not much I can add to the pool. Thx for checking in.
there's a lot of fluttering of the trailing edge. That's definitely not good for the kite, in no time you'll start to see tears parallel to the TE. Otherwise looks like a good idea.
Maybe user error. My Peak4 does the same thing if I sheet out too much. It's very sensitive to bar sheeting compared to other kites. Bar out fluttering, bar inn backstall(which can be used to park the kite mid window)
As advantages: less weight, less grunt power delivery and that super drift. The last part goes well with riding waves. As for general freeride - weight would be the main. As my experience: when typical 3 strut 12m start to fall out, 10m single one flies and rides good on foil.
@@mikemiller774 I believe it is lighter than “typical 3 strut”, but not sure how much lighter than LEI one strut/no strut, as it is almost the same now :)
@@VRMindeexample: 10m soul - 2.04kg; duotone mono 11m - 2,56kg. Hybrid should be lighter than Soul. And for reference duotone juice dlab 13m - 2,73 (3 strut)
Just wanted you ping you to say thank you for all your content, hope you’re keeping well and getting some time on the water.
Appreciate it!
for a 220lb rider on a 633 wing, what size would you recommend for foiling on 8 to 12 knots wind?
Oh nice!!! This will be interesting
Thank you for the review!
Thank you!
Really tempted to get one for Foiliing, new concept looks really good
I’ve been waiting for this!!!
Its just a copy of the gin marabou kite
Still didn't see the 11.5 size video about. Would be interesting to see on how low wind can it go.
Sorry Mike, didn’t try the 11.5. The largest sized ones just aren’t best for the areas of ride. We don’t get the 8-12mph sea breeze.
@@TheOKKiteboarder BTW, what i've noticed from all videos about this kite - they are all in size of 7.5. Is there a reason for that, like Flysurfer only gives out this size first? Considering that all sizes are available on sale.
Love the channel and reviews. Are you done with content? Hope all is well.
Thx. I’m not sure about future content. Since all of the quality content has been released by creators like Damo and others, I’m not sure there’s a need for releases from channels like mine. Thx for asking and appreciate the kind words.
Great explanation video. That trailing edge seems to flutter all the time?
ok, someone below mentioned that only when sheeted out..
When it gets overpowered it can flap but the fluttering is really of no concern.
In Australia $1100 Peak, $1800 Hybrid, $2600 Soul in the 5.5/6m sizes. I'll be risking improving my swim legs with the Peak 5 5m...
Why is the bar in this video so big? Looks huge for such a small kite?
Where have you gone? No new content in a long time?
Thx for checking in. Life and family keeping me busy. There’s so much quality content out there now, I just don’t have much to offer.
it's very interesting i mean it will be a good alternative for me for light wind but can we kite in twintip in 10knots with a bigger kite like this ?
I don’t think it’s the best option for twintip riding.
Well….. just bought my first foil kite ever! 7.5 m for south Florida paired with Armstrong 1550 I might have to get a smaller wing like 1200
Let us know how it goes.
Hi Russskielo, was the 7.5 meter do? I’m also in south Florida. 75 kg and have CF1200 . I’m considering the 9.5m. Any advice? Thanks
why do they say the hybrid is bulkier, but your charts show the hybrid being lighter in the same size ? at minute 8:55
Hey Robin, just because the leading side fills with air.
Hi ! In tour opinion what is the low range of the 7.5 with a. 1000 cm2 foil?
My guess would be 8-9knots???
@@TheOKKiteboarder I can confirm this. I'm about 170lbs btw.
Hi, very interesting, thank you. It raises a few questions though:
1- I can foil down to about 7kts with a SS UFO 9m (strutless LEI), what would be the foiling low end of the Hybrid and what size would be required to foil in, say 4+ KTS if that's possible?
2- What are the upwind performances? The Peak flies in no wind but seems lacking in upwind performance.
3- This concept is the same as Gin's Marabou. The Marabou 1 was not a success and was completely redesigned. The Marabou 2 was released earlier this year, a comparison would be great.
4- In the Ultra light wind (< 8kts) foiling category, it seems the players are the Hyperlink, the Peak5, The Soul, the Chrono and possibly the UFO V2 in 11m. Could you do a video on ultra light wind foiling comparing those different kites?
If you can do a 7kts on LEI 9m(!) why even bother with Hybrid? Soul in 12 would cover anything else for you.
I agree. If you are using the UFO in 7 knots….you are at the ground level.
7 knots with a 9m......... 🤔
@@mikemiller774 That's what I'm trying to find out. I live on an island without any shop or opportunity to test gear and what I see online varies wildly. Some people use large size foil kites (15-20m) , some people say that in super light wind you need single skin kites like the Peaks, some people say Hyperlinks would be better because they fly in lighter winds and fly faster than the Soul and have better upwind than the Peaks and some ppl say the UFO 11m would actually go down to 4-5 kts... Then there's the hybrids (both the Flysurfer one and the Gin Marabou 2). So I'm trying to figure it out from people who are actually using those kites.
@@mikejablonski8510 Yes... As measured by a hand held wind gauge at beach level, so there is probably a bit more higher up but not much. The kite will fly in less but I can't get enough power out of it to water start below 7kts.
I would buy one but I don’t think you’ll be mote than 2meters off the water
Marie-Eve got a black eye from her foil?
Wing board
I was hoping no one would notice. ;)
Cause: wing board.
@@marie-evemayrand9070 it's documented on TH-cam, so now it's a black eye forever... ;)
@@marie-evemayrand9070 Same thing happened to me. I pulled my hands down a couple seconds too soon. 🤣
"relaunchability" in flat water, OK, but what about a wave going over it when it's down? The Peak's drifting ability makes it the absolute weapon of choice for wave-riding on a foil, but once you drop it and it gets hit by a wave, forget it, you're swimming in. I doubt this new hybrid would be any better? Would be nice to see some footage if it is.
Well we weren’t in waves, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it relaunched just fine in those conditions.
I think this kite relaunches better than inflatable kites. At least faster.
I think the question is swim or cry. Or the risk or a kite with zero drift. 😅
Had a bad experience this summer with a peak. Crashed the kite would not relauch and submerged and turned into a fishing net. If I wasn't 200m from shore and the wind was stronger I would have had to cut my lines and abandon the kite. Turned into an anchor. Haven't flow any foil kites since
You gotta wrap up those lines sooner.
Yep spent to much time trying to relaunch before wrapping up lines. I had about a minute window before it submerged. Great kite when it's in the air. The five sessions prior to my kitemare where alot of fun. I recommend using a good flotation vest and having support boats on standby just in case. Swimming a wet rag to shore was no fun
Had a few swim in myself with the Peaks. Once submerged they do become a full on anchor that will drag like crazy. Great kites but don't take em out too far from shore.
I take my peaks out as far as i can swimm, about 2 miles with an inflatable restube. When it crashes and doesn't relaunch you want to make sure your not keeping line tension under water or the kite will "fly" down underwater especially in waves. So be quick, or prepared to leave the kite.
I see many struggle to wind up the 21m lines in time. Has anybody tried the peak with really short lines like 10m? I assume the relaunch would be much easier. One might use a bigger size peak though.
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Man, you went silent for 2 years. This is the last vid. You still in business?
I’m still around. Busy raising a family etc. but still open to videos in the future. But to be honest, there’s such great material out there now, there’s really not much I can add to the pool. Thx for checking in.
@@TheOKKiteboarder Good to hear. Take care.
What's you low end size on your Triton? You forced me to purchase a Triton 😂
Kip, what do you mean low end size of triton?
@@TheOKKiteboarder I think I was asking What's your smallest Flysurfer Hybrid you'll use along with your Triton?
@@kippywylie I use a 4, 5, and 6m Peak with it.
there's a lot of fluttering of the trailing edge. That's definitely not good for the kite, in no time you'll start to see tears parallel to the TE. Otherwise looks like a good idea.
That never happens to any of the single skin kites.
@@mikejablonski8510 I have seen in multiple inflatable kites, and more recently, wings.
@@Mcfly77777 but not single skin kites. Different material. They don't tear.
Maybe user error. My Peak4 does the same thing if I sheet out too much. It's very sensitive to bar sheeting compared to other kites. Bar out fluttering, bar inn backstall(which can be used to park the kite mid window)
@@bennis123 fluttering is fine. But they don't tear because of the fluttering.
all the flapping cant be good for the kite and would drive me nuts
It only flaps when you sheet all the way out.
Yes, it looked like the trailing edge was flapping in every shot.
It's been done before. Nothing new.
Let's test fly and see how good it is .
Not that excited but you never know:-)
I do not get how is this better than like one strut inflatable LE kite? You can also call it "hybrid" and "safe"...
As advantages: less weight, less grunt power delivery and that super drift. The last part goes well with riding waves. As for general freeride - weight would be the main. As my experience: when typical 3 strut 12m start to fall out, 10m single one flies and rides good on foil.
@@mikemiller774 I believe it is lighter than “typical 3 strut”, but not sure how much lighter than LEI one strut/no strut, as it is almost the same now :)
@@VRMinde can't exactly recall numbers now, but afair there was a noticeable difference if single strut and something like Soul in same size.
@@VRMindeexample: 10m soul - 2.04kg; duotone mono 11m - 2,56kg. Hybrid should be lighter than Soul. And for reference duotone juice dlab 13m - 2,73 (3 strut)
@@mikemiller774 thanks for sharing mate!
That is a copy from the firefly from conceptair that exists already for long time