HMS TROOPER comes to light after 81 years

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  • The British submarine HMS TROOPER the traces of which disappeared in October 1943 has been discovered at a depth of 253 meters (830 ft) in the Aegean Sea, after a 26 year search! It is the eighth sunken submarine discovered by Kostas Thoctarides' research team! HMS TROOPER, commanded by Lieutenant John S. Wraith, sailed from Beirut on her eighth offensive patrol on 26 September 1943 and was ordered to sail to the Aegean.
    On 5 October 1943, the British had information about a new German operation with Leros as a possible target. So the submarine TROOPER was ordered to patrol between Donousa and Ikaria. From there onwards the traces of TROOPER disappeared and when on 17th October, that she was due to return to Beirut, she did not turn up she was considered lost. Initially the research was focused on the minefields of Leros and then Kalymnos and Kos. Ten sea minefields were searched without finding Trooper. On October 14, 1943, an event took place which was the cause of the disorientation of all research in relation to the sinking of the TROOPER. The caique LS8, belonging to the Levant Schooner Flotilla (LSF), had an encounter with a British "T" class submarine that surfaced alongside it in Alinda Bay in Leros. The Captain of the caique Commander Adrian Seligman, described in his book "War in the islands" his encounter with the submarine, which he believed to be HMS TROOPER, as he said he recognised the loud voice of Lieutenant Wraith. This information was adopted as it coincided with the order the British Admiralty had sent to TROOPER, and post-war this version was further strengthened when the minefields in the area became known. Researchers S. Vougidis and K. Thoctarides while studying the logs and reports of British submarines found that the report of the captain of HMS TORBAY contained the incident in Leros - exactly as Seligman described it! It was not the TROOPER but TORBAY submarine that Seligman had seen! So the research was moved to the area where Trooper was patrolling between 6 and 9 October 1943, in the Aegean Sea. The wreck of HMS TROOPER was located in international territorial waters north of Donoussa, at a depth of 253 metres (830 ft), on one of the five German minefields that the mine-laying ship DRACHE had laid on 26 September 1943. The 84-metre-long TROOPER is cut into three distinct sections, bow, middle section and stern, which confirms a very violent sinking after a mine explosion.The sinking of the submarine was caused by a German EMF mine containing 350 kg of hexane. The result of the explosion was the immediate sinking of the submarine... with the submarine breaking into three pieces.First the bow sank, then the stern and lastly the middle section, which remained on the surface for a few minutes.
    The bow and stern lie on the seabed in close proximity, while the submarine's conning tower has been detached and lies much further away.
    Throughout the entire exploration, no intervention or disturbance of any kind was made to the wreck, as it is a wet grave of the 64 men of the crew of HMS TROOPER.
    Copyrights: ROV Services (www.rovservices.gr)
    Underwater footage: Kostas Thoctarides
    Montage: Agapi - Οceanis Thoctarides
    Μusic: @EpicMusicWaves
    Coefficients: Rena Giatropoulou, Nikos Anestis, Spyros Vougidis, Christos Vasilakopoulos, Pyros Kyrkos, Alexandros Kyrkis, Ntalaris Vasilis, Giorgos Marangoudakis, Dimitris Vogiatzis, Konstantinos Vlassis.
    Special thanks: Captain Richard S Wraith CBE Royal Navy, George Malcolmson Former Archivist Royal Navy Submarine Museum, Captain W. Benbow, Naval and Air Attaché of the British Embassy in Athens, The National Archives UK, RN Submarine Museum Gosport, Neil Campbell, David Renwick Grand, John Eade, Jan Erik, Divid Wilkins, Platon Alexiades, Jean Louis Roba, Brian Corijn, Vaggelis Kanakis, Fragiskos Lgkonis,Giorgos & Ilektra Mamais, Nikos Koumarianos, Brian Corijn, Anne Berta.

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  • @peterconnor099743
    @peterconnor099743 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    Was delighted to hear that Hms Trooper had at last been found. Our Aunt Sarah b, 1925 born in Rothesay, Isle of Bute, Scotland, got married to Samuel Fleming in 26 Oct 1942 in Rothesay . Samuel Fleming was born 1921 in Broxburn, West Lothian. He was an Able Seaman on Hms Trooper when the submarine went missing,. His death is recorded on the UK Naval Memorial, in Chatham, Kent . Age 22. Hms Trooper sunk and posted missing off the Island of Leros in the Mediteranean on the 17 th Oct 1943.. A year after he married.. The book Hms Trooper I have in my possesion.. Gone but not forgotten,, fair winds and calm seas.. RIP.. Peter Connor . ex RN.. Sep 1966--to Nov 1973..

  • @woody1380
    @woody1380 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    My Great Uncle Denis Seddon was a stocker first class on Trooper and died on her aged 23. It's good that the family now know his final resting place. RIP Denis and all your crewmates

  • @bungfupanda8936
    @bungfupanda8936 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    HMS/M Trooper, still on patrol, fair winds and following seas, shipmates forever, rest in peace. 🇬🇧⚓️

    • @cecygraciela5892
      @cecygraciela5892 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Rest in Peace 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @cryptozoomauler5505
    @cryptozoomauler5505 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    R.I.P. crewmen of the HMS Trooper.

  • @davidgaston738
    @davidgaston738 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    salute to the crewmen and salute to all those who have given closure by this film to brave men who gave their live for freedom

  • @nitacollins9543
    @nitacollins9543 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    RIP TO ALL, excellent video🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @Backwardlooking
    @Backwardlooking หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    The T Class were very large ocean going submarines pressed into service in the Mediterranean for which they were unsuitable according to expert naval historians.

    • @janwitts2688
      @janwitts2688 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      You could see them from above.. so yes.. somewhat unsuitable.

  • @jimmyjames6267
    @jimmyjames6267 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Tragic and Sad...

  • @sharpyboy1955
    @sharpyboy1955 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    RIP to all my Brothers who have "crossed the bar" 🏴‍☠️🥃

  • @ChristyNavy
    @ChristyNavy หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Εξαιρετικό, συγκινητικό, μοναδικό! Όπως κάθε σου έρευνα Κώστα! Σ΄ευχαριστούμε!

  • @josecorazon.bautista
    @josecorazon.bautista หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The skipper just entered a minefield. The sub failed to detect the mines, lack of equipment those days.

  • @lablackzed
    @lablackzed หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Submariners balls of steel .Rip.

  • @Jmp5nb
    @Jmp5nb 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The families have finally closure as a direct result of this gentleman’s determination. Many thanks, and may they rest in peace.

  • @Xaro5
    @Xaro5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Συγχαρητήρια για την επιμονή και την έρευνα!

  • @arkadiuszpawowicz7494
    @arkadiuszpawowicz7494 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Ten Kiosk bardzo podobny do O.R.P Orzeł 85A - To samo mogło spotkać polska łódź na morzu północnym. Cześć i chwała Brytyjskim i Polskim bohaterom drugiej wojny światowej... 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🇵🇱

  • @melina001a
    @melina001a 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    RIP all those on HMS Trooper, on eternal patrol. Fair winds and calm seas

  • @williamramsey2851
    @williamramsey2851 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    why are door and hatches open? Was it on the surface when sunk?

    • @rovservices1176
      @rovservices1176 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes on the surface

    • @williamlloyd3769
      @williamlloyd3769 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Most likely on the surface running diesels to recharge batteries, replenish air supply and look for Axis targets. RIP.

  • @the_lost_navigator
    @the_lost_navigator หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Respect

  • @richardletaw4068
    @richardletaw4068 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just saw a brief documentary on this vessel, at the end of which Trooper had not been found. It was long enough ago that I had forgotten the name-but when the crew was shown here, I said, “I know that flag!”
    May their souls rest easy. I am gratified that their resting place is finally known.
    💖 ⚓️ 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @CharlesHedges-v2u
    @CharlesHedges-v2u หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    How do you lay mines in 230 metres depth water? How were these deep minefields de-activated after the war?

    • @janwitts2688
      @janwitts2688 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      They mostly rot out after a few years.. though some were able fo detonate a couple of decades later ..

    • @earthworm2001
      @earthworm2001 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      The actual mines themselves are attached to a concrete sinker / anchor by a chain that allows the mine to float at the depth you want. The Italian navy was really proficient in this type of warfare.

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Many mines broke their chains and floated away appearing in many places.

  • @anglonorse2943
    @anglonorse2943 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Somewhere off Cape Bon Sicily, the HMS Tetrarch was lost in late '41. I hope she is found, my uncle was serving on her

  • @WojciechWachniewski-st1zm
    @WojciechWachniewski-st1zm 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ...and we all here in Poland are waiting for a good news, that the resting place of our Orzeł (Eagle) has been found. The famous boat disappeared without trace after 8th day of June 1940. ♍🇵🇱🇬🇧👍

  • @davidperry970
    @davidperry970 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Did any of the crew survive the war? Open doors ?

    • @kostasthoctarides7620
      @kostasthoctarides7620 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      it is a wet grave of the 64 men of the crew of HMS TROOPER

    • @fizzinsoda
      @fizzinsoda หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      if it was an explosion most likely not, water would have flooded in too quickly if you weren't already gone from the first impact and then you're drowning trying to find a way out in pitch black darkness once the power is gone.

    • @IRLangmaid25
      @IRLangmaid25 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I very much doubt it with a 350kg magnetic mine being set off and I reckon it could have also set off the torpedoes as well which explains how the bow got blown off

    • @TranceElevation
      @TranceElevation 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fizzinsoda Reading your comment made me feel terrible. The idea of working in a submarine always gave me almost a panic attack.

  • @fatman1288
    @fatman1288 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Damn Nazis! RIP lads!

  • @satech-solutionskalfas1830
    @satech-solutionskalfas1830 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Amazing

  • @MyPhoenix62
    @MyPhoenix62 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bravo to the unrelenting crew who found her, & to those lost souls, home at last, waiting no more. Peace to their survivors now together

  • @daystatesniper01
    @daystatesniper01 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fair winds and kind seas lads hopefully your patrol has ended in a better place RIP

  • @mickeyfitzgerald6266
    @mickeyfitzgerald6266 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am so glad HM Trooper has finally been found leading stoker Harold Graham Horton who was on board that fateful journey was my mums first cousin my mother was named after Harold mother Ida she passed in 1991 and Harold name has been added to her headstone he was her only child

  • @woody1380
    @woody1380 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can anyone who put this video together confirm if the closing photo is of the crew of Trooper. If it is then it will have my Great Uncle on it and we don't have that photo or any of him in service. The sub number in the background doesn't look like N91 which was HMS Trooper's number.

  • @joseclaudio1670
    @joseclaudio1670 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    So this is the world's best undetectable submarine👌

  • @amaurymagalhaes3410
    @amaurymagalhaes3410 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Aquilo aos 2:20 no canto superior direito não parece ser a caveira de um dos tripulantes?

    • @spyrosvougidis_122
      @spyrosvougidis_122 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      is the nozzle of the voice pipe.

  • @patrickcreighton5109
    @patrickcreighton5109 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    RIP MeBoyos

  • @LauroPletsch
    @LauroPletsch หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Repouse em Paz .

  • @madcarew5168
    @madcarew5168 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Where,when,how?

    • @SaltimusMaximus
      @SaltimusMaximus หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Icarian sea, 1943, hit a mine

    • @kostasthoctarides7620
      @kostasthoctarides7620 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The British submarine HMS TROOPER the traces of which disappeared in October 1943 has been discovered at a depth of 253 meters in the Aegean Sea, after a 26 year search! It is the eighth sunken submarine discovered by Kostas Thoctarides' research team! HMS TROOPER, commanded by Lieutenant John S. Wraith, sailed from Beirut on her eighth offensive patrol on 26 September 1943 and was ordered to sail to the Aegean.
      On 5 October 1943, the British had information about a new German operation with Leros as a possible target. So the submarine TROOPER was ordered to patrol between Donousa and Ikaria. From there onwards the traces of TROOPER disappeared and when on 17th October, that she was due to return to Beirut, she did not turn up she was considered lost. Initially the research was focused on the minefields of Leros and then Kalymnos and Kos. Ten sea minefields were searched without finding Trooper. On October 14, 1943, an event took place which was the cause of the disorientation of all research in relation to the sinking of the TROOPER. The caique LS8, belonging to the Levant Schooner Flotilla (LSF), had an encounter with a British "T" class submarine that surfaced alongside it in Alinda Bay in Leros. The Captain of the caique Commander Adrian Seligman, described in his book "War in the islands" his encounter with the submarine, which he believed to be HMS TROOPER, as he said he recognised the loud voice of Lieutenant Wraith. This information was adopted as it coincided with the order the British Admiralty had sent to TROOPER, and post-war this version was further strengthened when the minefields in the area became known. Researchers S. Vougidis and K. Thoctarides while studying the logs and reports of British submarines found that the report of the captain of HMS TORBAY contained the incident in Leros - exactly as Seligman described it! It was not the TROOPER but TORBAY submarine that Seligman had seen! So the research was moved to the area where Trooper was patrolling between 6 and 9 October 1943, in the Aegean Sea. The wreck of HMS TROOPER was located in international territorial waters north of Donoussa, at a depth of 253 metres, on one of the five German minefields that the mine-laying ship DRACHE had laid on 26 September 1943. The 84-metre-long TROOPER is cut into three distinct sections, bow, middle section and stern, which confirms a very violent sinking after a mine explosion.The sinking of the submarine was caused by a German EMF mine containing 350 kg of hexane. The result of the explosion was the immediate sinking of the submarine... with the submarine breaking into three pieces.First the bow sank, then the stern and lastly the middle section, which remained on the surface for a few minutes.
      The bow and stern lie on the seabed in close proximity, while the submarine's conning tower has been detached and lies much further away.
      Throughout the entire exploration, no intervention or disturbance of any kind was made to the wreck, as it is a wet grave of the 64 men of the crew of HMS TROOPER.

  • @SukinSzkot
    @SukinSzkot 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WHERE IS ORP "ORZEŁ"?! ...

  • @3dmastrocraft510
    @3dmastrocraft510 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @kostasthoctarides7620
    @kostasthoctarides7620 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Here is the second T Class submarine found in Greece a year before. The HMS TRIUMPH at a depth of 203 m. th-cam.com/video/JPCNHno0Qu4/w-d-xo.html

  • @josemartins256
    @josemartins256 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Se ô submarino afundou vários navios antes de afundar foi feito justiça com quem ferro fere com ele e ferido.

  • @jarigustafsson7620
    @jarigustafsson7620 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    China:
    Free metal for our navy...

  • @davidforce5617
    @davidforce5617 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wont touch anything on this wreck but will gladly loot other wrecks that contain valuables. People had no problem looting the HMS Ediburgh so don't give me that crap about it being a war grave.

    • @scyllavain4825
      @scyllavain4825 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If this is your first thought.......!!

  • @chriscollardey8155
    @chriscollardey8155 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    🇬🇧♥️⚘️🙏Lest We Forget 🙏⚘️♥️🇬🇧

  • @AndyCaz424
    @AndyCaz424 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Weird how doors and hatches open ???

    • @SaltimusMaximus
      @SaltimusMaximus หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They reckon it hit a mine, maybe blown open by the blast and implosion

    • @AndyCaz424
      @AndyCaz424 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@SaltimusMaximus crew stood no chance...how bloody sad.

    • @jacksprat9172
      @jacksprat9172 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Likely running on the surface recharging batteries and getting fresh air at night, not knowing they were in a newly laid mine field.