The stereotype with horror movies is that there needs to be a lot of killings. This movie has one murder and is the best horror movie of all time. Speaks volumes
Jack Nicholson is now 84 years old. He was 42 when he did this film. Watching it is watching him exactly halfway through his life. Thought that was cool.
@@genx7953 There's a sequel to Hitchhiker's??? If so, my excitement guage just shot up to, well...42, of course! Haha. I haven't seen any news about a Hitchhiker's sequel, but if so, I hope they mix in some "Restaurant at the End of the Universe," & "So long, & thanks for all the Fish." Hell, I hope the make the whole 6 part 'trilogy'!!! I love me some British sci-fi! Ok, sorry...got too hyped just from a possible film title in a YT comment...Yikes! I AM becoming Erik!🤘😳🤞
@@justitroyal7032 The late '70s. When this came out, I was about the same age as 'Danny' in this movie, yet my father still let me go see it in the theaters. It freaked me out a little bit, but mostly it confused me. Until I grew up...Then it freaked me out even more! Lol.
I feel bad for the twin girls who had to act dead and covered in blood. Sure, people must have explained to them that it was just make-believe, but wouldn't that still be traumatizing?
@@avalonjustin the girls went on interview saying they loved the whole production and everyday felt like an exclusive party and they had alot of fun playing with Jack Nicholson 🙂
Just a fun little easter egg for you: I stayed at the Stanley Hotel and during the ghost tour, it was explained that Stephen King was served drinks at the bar from their bartender, Lloyd Delbert Grady. So cool that he named two characters after this one Stanley Hotel employee.
The name “Overlook” plays so much into the theme, most likely Wendy overlooking Jack’s abuse towards his son. The hotel represents past trauma, often overlooked.
100%! This affirms my young awareness that the story is a direct and scary allegory to? domestic violence, which I experienced throughout my childhood. My family had an odd fascination with this film.
Halloran is the hero of the movie, and fully enabled the survival of Wendy and Danny. He doesn't just 'distract' Jack from catching and killing Danny as mentioned here, he also provided the only working vehicle at the Overlook, allowing mother and son to escape. Without the snow cat Halloran brought with him. Wendy and Danny were stuck at the hotel with it's ghosts "For ever... and ever... and ever...!"
Sometimes people will say his desthbis proof the shining doesn't exist. Like he'd have not died if he had seen it coming. I think it's more proof if anything. Like jojen Reed in game of thrones, he knew the momentbofbhis death and didn't shy away from destiny.
I think Halloran's murder gave the Overlook a surge of psychic energy, which allowed Wendy to see the visions. Grady told Jack earlier, "Your son has a very great talent." It's explicit in the novel that the hotel is pushing Jack to murder Danny for his psychic abilities. However, Halloran also had a pretty strong shining, too. So, Jack murdered Halloran, which "fed" the hotel. That's the moment when Wendy could see all the visions.
I didn’t think about it like that at first but now that you mentioned it, it makes sense because the whole point of the sequel is for the Mad Hatter Witch to get more powerful by getting other people’s “shine.” In the sequel, the older version of Danny has a strong shine but he’s able to hide it deep within to not remember what happened when he was younger.
You guys do realize that this movie doesn’t have real ghosts in it right? The only reason Jack finds out that Halloran was helping Danny with his talent is because he had the shining too and could see Dick arriving with the snowcat in the future and could see Danny contacting him. That’s why when he kills Dick, he sees Danny
One detail that's overlooked is that Danny watches roadrunner in the beginning of the movie "catch me if you can.. beep beep " and then lures his dad into the maze to die in the end like the roadrunner does to the coyote 🐺.
Yes, it's extremely unsettling. I've been diving into various analyses of the Shining and have come to the conclusion that Kubrick has a mind unlike any other. The level of detail in every scene and the meanings buried inside, I can't imagine how he did it. It's like peeling an onion, discovering deeper and deeper layers. There's definitely a consensus that Danny was sexually abused by his father, who was abused by his. I believe Kubrick referred to the Overlook as a reincarnation of evil.
There's a few actors who do this and me and my wife joke is that they're not actually good actors and they can't remember what their character's name is so they have to have the same first name
And they didn't really explain it nor break it down. They just repeated things from previous analysis made by other people. If they would have truly explained it you would be terrified deep down to your core.
Don’t know if anyone has pointed this out, but I believe Roger Evert first spotted that Jack only talks to the ghosts when there is a mirror or something reflective near him, most notably in the bathroom with Grady jack is facing the mirrors. This implies that Jack is just talking to his reflection
Also, Danny's big wheel ride in the hotel is about 42 seconds long, with the 42 minute marker into the film is at the scene where Danny looks up to room 237 and is about to enter. Crazy!
Room 237, 2 x 3 x 7 = 42. And 42 is the 'Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything' as calculated by a computer called Deep Thought which took it 7.5 million years to calculate, but no one knows what the question was.
I remember hearing a theory that the people with the shine are all victims of abuse, I believe that it was about how all of the Losers club had it as well and that’s why they could predict things that were just about to happen (they used the rock fight as an example if I’m not mistaken). This could be a little bit more evidence with the theory that Jack sexually abused Danny.
I love this film, but I cannot help but think of the clips of Kubrick bashing Shelly. I haven’t heard that theory, only how Kubrick basically abused the actors, crew, and staff.
@@andrewhewitt5531 This would link back to Stephen King and his alcohol abuse. It’s not the case in King’s novel, who knows what Kubrick was going for in this scenario.
I feel like "the shining", or various versions of it have shown up in several of King's novels. Sort of as a message of that we all have a certain degree of it. Just some more than others. In The Dark Tower, there is a line where Idris Elba tells the little boy "your shine is your strength"
There's a theory that Jack had the shining as well, which is why Danny had it, as well as his granddaughter Abra. This explains why the door unlatched, and if this is true then it's possible that Danny drove Jack insane. If Danny's is powerful enough to be a beacon of sorts, then Jack's must be some sort of receiver. The moment where Jack is looking at Danny and Wendy having fun is an example of this, as Danny would be projecting feelings of freedom that Jack feels he can never have.
Yeah, when Danny says in the car that he is hungry, that is the hotel starting to work on Danny from afar. Then Jack looks in the rear view mirror at Danny - MIRROR - and he gets a kind of sick look on his face.
If you look closely at Jack’s manuscript, there are instances where he writes “All work and no play makes Jack adult boy.” This is interesting because the letter “L” to finish “dull” and “T” for “adult” are far away on the keyboard, thus alluding to something more eerie about Jack’s psyche.
This film is so incredibly rich with references and starting points which set you on a path to learn so much about a range of interesting topics. Further testament to the genius of Kubrick.
I think Kubrick did have something to say about us ‘overlook’ing child sexual abuse because we don‘t want to see it. All the evidence is there, it makes us uncomfortable, but we see the horror for the ghosts not the fact that a father is sexually abusing his child.
@@tracemcsorley7174 It's laughable how many totally bogus, invented (and very imaginative) theories have sprung up around Stanley Kubrick's adaptation of The Shining. If he were around to watch all the TH-cam videos supposedly 'exposing' his vision, I have no doubt he'd laugh his cobblers off! Even obvious continuity mistakes - like the disappearing/reappearing chair in the background of the Jack/Wendy row scene in the hotel lobby, has been imbued with deep symbolic meaning. Bull crap - it's a continuity cock up! Contrary to the opinion of obsessive fans of the movie, Stanley Kubrick was human and did make mistakes - so not everything you see in the film was 100% intentional. Kubrick would be thrilled his one horror film achieved cult status. But he'd also be perplexed at the purely speculative & subjective theories bandied about by fans, citing crazily 'out there' symbolism, events and plot lines that had never once entered his head!
@@mk-ultramags1107 Yeah, he goes a little far with some of his theories, but I appreciate anybody who digs deeper into cinema; especially a film from a giant like Kubrick.
All these different interpertations and you don't mention the one of this being about addiction jack loses it after losing his sobriety. He was remorsefull about hurting danny before but after that drink he just plays it down and puts more of the blame on danny. He gets the idea to actually murder his family after the ghost spilled an alcoholic drink on him.
That means that the Grady twins are the original caretaker’s daughters and that vision of the twins lying on the floor drenched in blood shown when they ask Danny to come play with them, is exactly what they looked after he killed them.
I think the continuity errors are intentional, the whole way it’s shot, it makes you feel like things are unreal and uneasy. Even us as viewers feel anxiety and tricks are mind into flight mode. Like we are losing are mind also. The claustrophobic panning shots, the tone, specific pov’s, and the simple things that makes us feel empty like hallways and mirrors. It’s masterclass in film making.
This is the combination of one of the greatest directors of all time, one of the greatest actors of all time, and one of the most accomplished authors of all time.
This movie has very little in common with King's novel, which I teach in my Gothic and horror lit course. It is an excellent work of art on its own merits. But the only thing we know about what Kubrick was trying to do with this movie is that he was NOT making a film of King's novel.
DP (Director of Photography) Note: The power cord to the TV is behind it and the TV, as you will notice, is pushed to the middle of the living room from its original placement up against the wall. So easily the cord could be plugged in and tightly connecting the TV to the wall.
@@Chickenman91916 well during the winter with all the snow storms the shadows aren't always cast on thin objects. Old TV's and other small appliances had thinner cords than today's appliances. But it's cool to think it's a creepy ghost TV too 😃 most certainly fits with the theme.
I'm getting ur saying the cord is plugged in tightly to were it would not droop down which is why you don't see it? But if that's your thinking, then you are saying the tv is plugged into the doors/windows which would not have a plug. I just think there is meant to be no plug, there for making it a supernatural occurrence.
Why do you write DP and then later write director of photography behind it to explain it. If you wrote DP it’s to save time but writing the explanation behind it makes it longer, doesn’t make much sense now does it. And yes I’m am fun at parties.
Also in conversation with Grady in the bathroom, Jack mentions a daughter (singular). So they are mentioned as daughters of 8 and 10, then portrayed by identical twins and mentioned as one daughter at one point. Also, there’s a discrepancy between how long ago Wendy says Jack hurt Danny when talking to the doctor and what Jack says when he’s at the bar. Wendy said it was a few months ago but Jack says something like “it was 3 goddamn years ago!”
5:02 - If you do a tight zoom-in on Jack's green tie in this scene, you'll notice that woven into the material is a raised pattern that resembles an aerial view of the infamous hedge maze out back of the Overlook Hotel. Perhaps a bit of subtle foreshadowing of Jack's eventual demise.
This is an amazing analysis. The scene with Jack and Danny that doesn’t end and leads into Room 237 sort of explains everything, in terms of the sexual abuse. I knew there was sexual abuse based on previous analysis I’d seen, but never tied it to room 237. Like this dark shadowy room where something terrible took place. Might also be hinting at child sacrifice and pedophelia by the powers that be and their occult rituals.
This is the horror movie I watched the most in my life, netflix is tired of me playing it, but it's just genial. And the book is amazing , a true classic ❤
In the book, it's a dog. His name is Roger. Jacks hallucination of the past shows roger at the masquerade ball dressed as a dog. He had a thing with the hotel owner and the hotel owner said he would consider continuing their sexual /romantic relationship if he would dress up like a dog and do tricks at the ball
When he's having his spasms as he passes the mirrors on the way to the Gold Room, you'll notice his reflection appears long before he even reaches each mirror. His reflection doesn't appear at all in the final mirror before he enters the Gold Room. 🤔
Jack Nicholson comes off as a potential killer in every movie I've seen him in. Even Terms of Endearment. I think his Torrence is equal parts performance and persona.
That was a very thorough, and enthusiastic analysis. Thank you for the time you took in it. I've watched many, but you provided quite a few more in depth details. Pleasure to watch while I've been looking up old Shelley stuff.
Wasn't sure what to expect for this since it wasn't about super heroes but wow, your break down has shown a lot of things that nobody has ever thought about before.
@@stevenpadilla1890 Erik here. If it's me hosting the video, it means I wrote everything you see and hear in the video. We have editors who assemble the video with visuals. But I'm not just NR's "spokesperson." I'm a producer, NR's director of programming, and the channel's sole writer. We're a small team, but I'm personally handling everything that isn't post-production.
It's a pretty good video, but about 90% of those things were said before by others. Doesn't lack merit to gather everything and put it on display like that. He didn't understand the core of it though. But he was very, very close.
I interviewed the Grady twins when I worked for a newspaper, in 2008. They were a riot and reminded me of the Pigeon sisters of the original Odd Couple movie. They said that Kubrick was a delight to work with
This is the most sane and logical analysis of The Shining I've seen. So many conspiracies and completely out there theories about a deeper meaning and using the disappearance of a chair or the look on an actors face in a single scene to prove it all. So...thank you!
Yeesh I'm going to have nightmares tonight. I thought a casual look back at the movie would be harmless but it has just made everything about the movie creepier.
On the most macro level this film is about a writer overcoming writer’s block. The movie transitions from reality to the story that eventually gets written. Jack conflates his and the hotel’s history to overcome his writer’s block. That is why inconsistencies occur in the hotel and character details (i.e. the sisters and Grady, disappearing chairs, decals) Change in typewriter and color of clothing are clues to which world we are experiencing. How he contemplates the maze and types… The audience is transitioned into the story Jack is writing.
Something you missed that’s debated fairly heavily; in room 237 the purple and green carpet is SAID to look phallic as a reflection of Jack’s homosexual behavior. I’d like to see the carpet as a keyhole instead. A keyhole symbolizes a truth being opened or peering through a locked room and finding secrets within. This dream could symbolize the “key” Behind the locked door of 237. Showing a glimpse into the horrors jack committed against Danny.
Nice video, by the way though it's not "breaking the 4th wall" if theres actually another character in the exact place where the first character is looking at the camera. If Loyd wasn't there then yes Jack would be breaking the 4th wall. It only applies when a character is addressing the audience directly. Sorry to get all technical but someones gotta say it.
I really like when u guys do deep dives in movies outside of the Marvel world, especially classics like this. I've watched this multiple times. Great Great stuff 👏. Do more classic movies 🎥!
@@blacknessabove No offense to Rob Ager, I like his videos, he does go a bridge too far though, like many Shining analysis. The best way I can explain it is this way, Full Metal Jacket is about Vietnam. It’s not JUST about Vietnam. However, no matter what other meanings, messages, metaphors, etc. are included, it doesn’t stop the film from being a Vietnam War movie. The Shining IS a haunted house movie. It’s about a haunted hotel & characters that have ESP. It doesn’t stop being that, just because there is an obvious “B plot” about physical & emotional abuse and perhaps other large metaphors.
@@TheStacanova I'm totally with you. Collative Learning goes waaay too far in so much of their theories. This was a good overview of the various theories, without the tons of conjecture and assumptions that come with going down the rabbit hole.
The Grady twins are not twins. They're sisters who dress alike. When the manager of the hotel is telling Jack about the murders, he mentions the girls are 8 and 10.
Fantastic and insightful break down! I never put the sexual abuse of Danny together. As you explained the connection and the ball rolled up to Danny. I gasped! And my heart-broke.
@@billkgeorge well Kubrick made a film about a pedophile/groomer called Lolita in 1962 so that’s kind of moot point. These types of horrible things have always been happening, just because you’re not comfortable with it doesn’t mean it isn’t the case. Almost all Kubrick films have some sort of abuse themes.
@Bill G I think artists are generally inclined to acknowledge sexual themes, if they please. Depending on the time and place, they have to "say it without saying it." Censorship was much heavier 40 years ago. I believe the sexual abuse themes are there, but Kubrick was sneaking them past the censorship bodies of not only the US, but several countries where The Shining was released.
Great job Eric! You're one of the first YT personalities to mention the variations of Jack's manuscripts. Last year while in London I visited the Kubrick exhibit and saw them in person, sadly I don't have a photo to share of that specific prop display. I enjoy your mention of mirrors as that hasn't been talked about often.
Jack Nicholson was amazing in this role. Scared the hell out of me. I've read the book, and while the movie was not as good, Jack's performance in this adaptation was excellent, followed the book's character very well.
The mirrors detail was not discussed as much. Also I didn't know until seeing the Kubrick exhibit in London last year that there were resorts of Jack's typewriter in different languages, strangely I can't find that photo.
After watching this video I feel this movie even more disturbing 😳. That's some spooky and creepy references!! Truly the best horror movie of all time 🙌 👏
Shout out to Rob Ager, he totally should've been given an acknowledgement in this video. Huge portions of the video are lifted directly from his analysis of the movie.
My lime green Stovington tshirt has been ordered and is on the way. I can't wait to confuse and perplex my 25 year old niece who loves the movie as much as I do
Only focusing on the "42" will lead you to get lost in the maze. The "42" it's just one of many clues that is left there like crumbs to follow the trail to a main and central meaning that is always present throughout the whole film.
You guys really need to @ Rob Ager Collative Learning. Just a shout out would be the decent thing to do. Your standing on the shoulders of other You Tubers who did the hard work.
In the book, I don't know that Jack is an "Everyman". It's established fairly early on that he's abusive, without intention. His alcoholism fuels his anger, resulting in him breaking Danny's arm when he's about 4 years old if I recall.
If the hotel asked him to change the number so guests wouldn’t be scared to stay in the room, wouldn’t they just be scared of the room 237? Unless they didn’t really have a room 237 then that makes sense.
The moon wasnt discovered to be 238,000 miles away from the earth until well after the movie was made. Prior to the movie we believed it to be 237,000 miles away.
Interesting that Jack looks at the mirror before transitioning to Lloyd, and in 2019s Doctor Sleep... Jack IS “Lloyd”, and he’s been absorbed into the hotel.
The stereotype with horror movies is that there needs to be a lot of killings. This movie has one murder and is the best horror movie of all time. Speaks volumes
You should watch The Haunting. It's black and white and only pg, but it's one of the scariest horror films of all time.
Best??? Maybe
@@donavanmurray1080 it’s either this or The Exorcist for me. Both those are the top 2
All about the writing
@@jordanjohnson1255 yeah I get that I mean I feel like I'd gave more of a connect if I saw them in theatres tho
Jack Nicholson is now 84 years old. He was 42 when he did this film. Watching it is watching him exactly halfway through his life. Thought that was cool.
Another reference to the number 42. Coincidence?.....
Not throughout his life
@@davemurphy9892 No coincidences in a kubrick movie. Everything is connected
He’s not dead
Did you just say...42😅
”The Shining” turns 40 this year. Wow that a long time
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@@genx7953 There's a sequel to Hitchhiker's??? If so, my excitement guage just shot up to, well...42, of course! Haha. I haven't seen any news about a Hitchhiker's sequel, but if so, I hope they mix in some "Restaurant at the End of the Universe," & "So long, & thanks for all the Fish." Hell, I hope the make the whole 6 part 'trilogy'!!! I love me some British sci-fi! Ok, sorry...got too hyped just from a possible film title in a YT comment...Yikes! I AM becoming Erik!🤘😳🤞
@@justitroyal7032 The late '70s. When this came out, I was about the same age as 'Danny' in this movie, yet my father still let me go see it in the theaters. It freaked me out a little bit, but mostly it confused me. Until I grew up...Then it freaked me out even more! Lol.
@@mojoriot2293 I asked this video because it seams old ,I guess they shot it few months ago but kept it for October
The actor who played Danny didn't find out The Shining was a horror until he was about 16.
Ouf
I feel bad for the twin girls who had to act dead and covered in blood. Sure, people must have explained to them that it was just make-believe, but wouldn't that still be traumatizing?
@@avalonjustin the girls went on interview saying they loved the whole production and everyday felt like an exclusive party and they had alot of fun playing with Jack Nicholson 🙂
@@wrenkennedy If that's true, then excellent! I just don't want people to be traumatized or hurt.
Yeah he was told it was a drama or something
Just a fun little easter egg for you: I stayed at the Stanley Hotel and during the ghost tour, it was explained that Stephen King was served drinks at the bar from their bartender, Lloyd Delbert Grady. So cool that he named two characters after this one Stanley Hotel employee.
Imagine your name being forever memorialized as a character in a famous horror movie.
The name “Overlook” plays so much into the theme, most likely Wendy overlooking Jack’s abuse towards his son. The hotel represents past trauma, often overlooked.
Great insight👌
100%! This affirms my young awareness that the story is a direct and scary allegory to? domestic violence, which I experienced throughout my childhood. My family had an odd fascination with this film.
Nice.
Lol nope wrong
people sayin underrated smh it’s insanely popular, and rightly so
When it came out it was panned by critics
It also had to scrap 20 plus minutes to go from a x to r rating...
People who say it's under rated don't know how good this is!!
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Halloran is the hero of the movie, and fully enabled the survival of Wendy and Danny. He doesn't just 'distract' Jack from catching and killing Danny as mentioned here, he also provided the only working vehicle at the Overlook, allowing mother and son to escape.
Without the snow cat Halloran brought with him. Wendy and Danny were stuck at the hotel with it's ghosts "For ever... and ever... and ever...!"
True. And if he hadn't been receptive to Danny's shine he never would've known they needed help.
🏆🏆🏆 I couldn't agree more, with the both of you.
Sometimes people will say his desthbis proof the shining doesn't exist. Like he'd have not died if he had seen it coming. I think it's more proof if anything. Like jojen Reed in game of thrones, he knew the momentbofbhis death and didn't shy away from destiny.
@@gillriet773 I totally agree. Halloran's death seems to me a genuine act of self-sacrifice, in the service of Wendy and Danny.
You mean "Forevah, and evah, and evah."
Eric: “...we just simply overlooked it”
Me: “holy shit!!!”
🤯 mind blown!
Is that why it's called the Overlook hotel...?
Oh goodness
Makes you think twice about the title for "Eyes wide shut"
I think Halloran's murder gave the Overlook a surge of psychic energy, which allowed Wendy to see the visions. Grady told Jack earlier, "Your son has a very great talent." It's explicit in the novel that the hotel is pushing Jack to murder Danny for his psychic abilities. However, Halloran also had a pretty strong shining, too. So, Jack murdered Halloran, which "fed" the hotel. That's the moment when Wendy could see all the visions.
I didn’t think about it like that at first but now that you mentioned it, it makes sense because the whole point of the sequel is for the Mad Hatter Witch to get more powerful by getting other people’s “shine.” In the sequel, the older version of Danny has a strong shine but he’s able to hide it deep within to not remember what happened when he was younger.
You guys do realize that this movie doesn’t have real ghosts in it right? The only reason Jack finds out that Halloran was helping Danny with his talent is because he had the shining too and could see Dick arriving with the snowcat in the future and could see Danny contacting him. That’s why when he kills Dick, he sees Danny
@@CJPooz it actually does have real ghosts
One detail that's overlooked is that Danny watches roadrunner in the beginning of the movie "catch me if you can.. beep beep " and then lures his dad into the maze to die in the end like the roadrunner does to the coyote 🐺.
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This analysis has made this film 5 times scarier and it all makes perfect sense you cannot argue it 😮
My mind is blown that Tony is Danny's future self.
The red bathroom reminds me of a target bathroom.
A Target bathroom would be too terrifying.
Also looks like blood and bone since it’s so contrasting, good foreshadowing
Be careful the next time you go into one.
I thought I was the only one who was thinking that lmao
I believe it represented blood. Red and white blood cells.
seeing the bear scene makes me uncomfortable EVERY time.
same. for me its the creepiest part of the movie
It's like the most perfect example of seeing something that you can't unsee.
@Zack Simmons: 🤢me too🤮
@Joe Shumo i’m pretty sure the bear is connected to danny’s pillow at the beginning of the movie, which is a bear
Yes, it's extremely unsettling. I've been diving into various analyses of the Shining and have come to the conclusion that Kubrick has a mind unlike any other. The level of detail in every scene and the meanings buried inside, I can't imagine how he did it. It's like peeling an onion, discovering deeper and deeper layers. There's definitely a consensus that Danny was sexually abused by his father, who was abused by his. I believe Kubrick referred to the Overlook as a reincarnation of evil.
Isn't it weird that most of Jack Nicholson's roles have Jack in their names
Or Keanu reeves roles have John in their name.
@@MultiHumala well unless you count that it's a joke
There's a few actors who do this and me and my wife joke is that they're not actually good actors and they can't remember what their character's name is so they have to have the same first name
no
@@themarvelboy3818 It wasn't a joke. That's called a mistake.
This some how made me more scared of “The Shining”
And they didn't really explain it nor break it down. They just repeated things from previous analysis made by other people. If they would have truly explained it you would be terrified deep down to your core.
Me too
@@proverbial4252 can you give an example?
@@malloryjostes2129 Hello there. I would gladly, but an example of what exactly?
@@proverbial4252 I would like an example of I guess the connection between Danny and Jack through abuse.
Don’t know if anyone has pointed this out, but I believe Roger Evert first spotted that Jack only talks to the ghosts when there is a mirror or something reflective near him, most notably in the bathroom with Grady jack is facing the mirrors. This implies that Jack is just talking to his reflection
Wendy also swings the bat at Jack 42 times while going up the stairs
Chadwick Boseman died at 42 years old and played in the film "42".
The piano riff when Danny walks to get his fire truck goes 42 times
Also, Danny's big wheel ride in the hotel is about 42 seconds long, with the 42 minute marker into the film is at the scene where Danny looks up to room 237 and is about to enter. Crazy!
Room 237, 2 x 3 x 7 = 42.
And 42 is the 'Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything' as calculated by a computer called Deep Thought which took it 7.5 million years to calculate, but no one knows what the question was.
@@MikeWhiskyTango Its just a Masonic psyop.
I remember hearing a theory that the people with the shine are all victims of abuse, I believe that it was about how all of the Losers club had it as well and that’s why they could predict things that were just about to happen (they used the rock fight as an example if I’m not mistaken). This could be a little bit more evidence with the theory that Jack sexually abused Danny.
I love this film, but I cannot help but think of the clips of Kubrick bashing Shelly. I haven’t heard that theory, only how Kubrick basically abused the actors, crew, and staff.
@@shannond7437 yep. Really annoys me, like kubric and some other directors see their actors as pupets for their project.
Halloran tells Danny he was abused by his grandfather in doctor sleep (book) so could be onto something here
@@andrewhewitt5531 This would link back to Stephen King and his alcohol abuse. It’s not the case in King’s novel, who knows what Kubrick was going for in this scenario.
I feel like "the shining", or various versions of it have shown up in several of King's novels. Sort of as a message of that we all have a certain degree of it. Just some more than others.
In The Dark Tower, there is a line where Idris Elba tells the little boy "your shine is your strength"
There's a theory that Jack had the shining as well, which is why Danny had it, as well as his granddaughter Abra. This explains why the door unlatched, and if this is true then it's possible that Danny drove Jack insane. If Danny's is powerful enough to be a beacon of sorts, then Jack's must be some sort of receiver. The moment where Jack is looking at Danny and Wendy having fun is an example of this, as Danny would be projecting feelings of freedom that Jack feels he can never have.
Yeah, when Danny says in the car that he is hungry, that is the hotel starting to work on Danny from afar. Then Jack looks in the rear view mirror at Danny - MIRROR - and he gets a kind of sick look on his face.
@@watermelonlalala What’s the correlation of him simply being hungry and the hotel working on his behalf
@@stars8924 when people start seeing connections and hidden meanings in ordinary things, you know they're full of baloney
If you look closely at Jack’s manuscript, there are instances where he writes “All work and no play makes Jack adult boy.” This is interesting because the letter “L” to finish “dull” and “T” for “adult” are far away on the keyboard, thus alluding to something more eerie about Jack’s psyche.
Hmm interesting. Like maybe... "adult-ery"?
@slimpilav:"Hmmm".....
@@isaacdogkeith9230 "hmmm"....VERY interesting...
the details are INSANE
They actually made someone write all those out, imagine being that person
This film is so incredibly rich with references and starting points which set you on a path to learn so much about a range of interesting topics. Further testament to the genius of Kubrick.
He sort of puts you in the middle of a maze!
Also the amount of luggage couldn’t possibly have fit in their car in the beginning
A reference to the emotional baggage that the family took with them.
Jack really thought Danny n Wendy were luggage that could of been left back in Boulder
All great observations -very good thread!
Not to mention the Big Wheel.
Danny was sitting on top of all that luggage. That's why he was seated that way when they were talking about the Donner Party.
I think Kubrick did have something to say about us ‘overlook’ing child sexual abuse because we don‘t want to see it. All the evidence is there, it makes us uncomfortable, but we see the horror for the ghosts not the fact that a father is sexually abusing his child.
In the book there is no evidence that he is sexually assaulting Danny. Only theories that spawned from the movie
Laughable. Jack never abused Danny that way. Its just tinfoil hats with to much time..
Stephen king named the overlook
@@tracemcsorley7174 It's laughable how many totally bogus, invented (and very imaginative) theories have sprung up around Stanley Kubrick's adaptation of The Shining. If he were around to watch all the TH-cam videos supposedly 'exposing' his vision, I have no doubt he'd laugh his cobblers off!
Even obvious continuity mistakes - like the disappearing/reappearing chair in the background of the Jack/Wendy row scene in the hotel lobby, has been imbued with deep symbolic meaning. Bull crap - it's a continuity cock up!
Contrary to the opinion of obsessive fans of the movie, Stanley Kubrick was human and did make mistakes - so not everything you see in the film was 100% intentional. Kubrick would be thrilled his one horror film achieved cult status. But he'd also be perplexed at the purely speculative & subjective theories bandied about by fans, citing crazily 'out there' symbolism, events and plot lines that had never once entered his head!
Research the playgirl magazine his dad reads in the first scene that issue of playgirl is about incest there is def abuse going on
Collative Learning has put so much work, effort in time into the shining analysis that he’s really worth watching.
yeah something tells me they watched collative learning's vids for "inspiration"....
@@CM-fk3or You mean down right thievery?!
Rob Ager is phenomenal. He's unbiased, and IMO, that is what makes for the best analysis.
@@mk-ultramags1107 i dont agree with all his analysis but he is very good!
@@mk-ultramags1107 Yeah, he goes a little far with some of his theories, but I appreciate anybody who digs deeper into cinema; especially a film from a giant like Kubrick.
All these different interpertations and you don't mention the one of this being about addiction jack loses it after losing his sobriety. He was remorsefull about hurting danny before but after that drink he just plays it down and puts more of the blame on danny. He gets the idea to actually murder his family after the ghost spilled an alcoholic drink on him.
He actually did mention substance abuse
That means that the Grady twins are the original caretaker’s daughters and that vision of the twins lying on the floor drenched in blood shown when they ask Danny to come play with them, is exactly what they looked after he killed them.
I think the continuity errors are intentional, the whole way it’s shot, it makes you feel like things are unreal and uneasy. Even us as viewers feel anxiety and tricks are mind into flight mode. Like we are losing are mind also.
The claustrophobic panning shots, the tone, specific pov’s, and the simple things that makes us feel empty like hallways and mirrors. It’s masterclass in film making.
This is the combination of one of the greatest directors of all time, one of the greatest actors of all time, and one of the most accomplished authors of all time.
Please tell me you’re including Shelley Duvall in this lol. I do love Jack, but Shelley shines no pun intended
This movie has very little in common with King's novel, which I teach in my Gothic and horror lit course. It is an excellent work of art on its own merits. But the only thing we know about what Kubrick was trying to do with this movie is that he was NOT making a film of King's novel.
@@do9138 Excellent observation. Spot on
@@PaulSahagianclearly wasn't.
@@do9138 but it was still based on King's story and characters.
DP (Director of Photography) Note: The power cord to the TV is behind it and the TV, as you will notice, is pushed to the middle of the living room from its original placement up against the wall. So easily the cord could be plugged in and tightly connecting the TV to the wall.
Would there be a shadow or no?
@@Chickenman91916 well during the winter with all the snow storms the shadows aren't always cast on thin objects. Old TV's and other small appliances had thinner cords than today's appliances. But it's cool to think it's a creepy ghost TV too 😃 most certainly fits with the theme.
@@BerniBernsify lol. Why do you think the cord was much smaller on old TV’s?? Truly just curious where you got that.
I'm getting ur saying the cord is plugged in tightly to were it would not droop down which is why you don't see it? But if that's your thinking, then you are saying the tv is plugged into the doors/windows which would not have a plug. I just think there is meant to be no plug, there for making it a supernatural occurrence.
Why do you write DP and then later write director of photography behind it to explain it. If you wrote DP it’s to save time but writing the explanation behind it makes it longer, doesn’t make much sense now does it. And yes I’m am fun at parties.
Wait.
So Erik Was the CARETAKER?
Always Has Been
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😬"The whole time?"
@PluFisIonatE NiNetEeN is this Binary or what
@PluFisIonatE NiNetEeN what does the number mean mason!
"Gunshot"*
The Grady daughters aren't twins; they say this in the book & the movie: "aged 8 & 10."
They are sisters, not twins.
Yeah just dressed the same and Similar height
Also in conversation with Grady in the bathroom, Jack mentions a daughter (singular). So they are mentioned as daughters of 8 and 10, then portrayed by identical twins and mentioned as one daughter at one point.
Also, there’s a discrepancy between how long ago Wendy says Jack hurt Danny when talking to the doctor and what Jack says when he’s at the bar. Wendy said it was a few months ago but Jack says something like “it was 3 goddamn years ago!”
Hands down u r the best breakdowning person on TH-cam.
He defo is, far better than most, very clear and to the point
@Cult Mechanicus Yeah basicly stolen information from other youtubers.
@@n3m06 I'd be clear and to the point if all I had to do was pinch someone else's work!
Get over yourself
@@davidlean1060 rob is gonna be pissed about this loll i bought a couple of his analysis and i liked them, people should go see his channel instead!
5:02 - If you do a tight zoom-in on Jack's green tie in this scene, you'll notice that woven into the material is a raised pattern that resembles an aerial view of the infamous hedge maze out back of the Overlook Hotel. Perhaps a bit of subtle foreshadowing of Jack's eventual demise.
This is an amazing analysis. The scene with Jack and Danny that doesn’t end and leads into Room 237 sort of explains everything, in terms of the sexual abuse. I knew there was sexual abuse based on previous analysis I’d seen, but never tied it to room 237. Like this dark shadowy room where something terrible took place. Might also be hinting at child sacrifice and pedophelia by the powers that be and their occult rituals.
this video is a complete rip off of the video by collative learning (rob ager). Watch that.
In the book its rm217, this is kubrick trying to tell his truths.
I watched Eyes Wide Shut a few days ago, and now this movie tonight. Kubrick was definitely aware of these occult sex rings
Danny watches Roadrunner cartoons, that's where he got the idea to trap jack in the maze. that coyote is really a crazy clown
No doubt Kubrick was batshit crazy. He nearly drove Shelly Duvall there too.
Hé actually did...
My mom looked like Shelley Duvall
Kubrick just worked really hard to get exactly what was needed. That's ridiculed and forbidden today, though, because we're all the same now
@@RideAcrossTheRiver a good movie comes with a cost. i dont know if shelley duvall's mental wellbeing was worth it.
@@psalm91.777 wtf same here
"All work and no play make Jack ADULT Boy" is probably my favorite of the so called "Typos"
This is the horror movie I watched the most in my life, netflix is tired of me playing it, but it's just genial. And the book is amazing , a true classic ❤
The book is amazing and bone chilling, but the movie is just amazing. It really never scared me sadly
just kinda unnerved me but not truly freaked out or scared
@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 imo the only scary thing is the ending of seeing how jack was always the caretaker
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@@seeds4 yeah that was freaky
The best horror movie of all time.Period.
To me it's The Exorcist, but this is close
That bear theory is crazyyyyy
I agree that's the only theory that I thought was solid. Some of the others were really far stretched.
Tony could potentially be a split personality of Jack’s like in Split and Jack(Tony) is shining to Danny and not even consciously aware of it
lol the theory is stolen from Rob Ager (Collative Learning)
In the book, it's a dog. His name is Roger. Jacks hallucination of the past shows roger at the masquerade ball dressed as a dog. He had a thing with the hotel owner and the hotel owner said he would consider continuing their sexual /romantic relationship if he would dress up like a dog and do tricks at the ball
When he's having his spasms as he passes the mirrors on the way to the Gold Room, you'll notice his reflection appears long before he even reaches each mirror. His reflection doesn't appear at all in the final mirror before he enters the Gold Room. 🤔
Jack Nicholson comes off as a potential killer in every movie I've seen him in. Even Terms of Endearment. I think his Torrence is equal parts performance and persona.
It's the hairline and his shiny face lol
DOES it matter to you AT ALL Aurora that when you accepted a date with ME that we have a CONTRACT and that I have NEEDS........🤣🤣🤣
He comes off as a satanist to me!
@@micksplace lmao! " the pain sobered me up!"
Easy Rider
I didn't know Jack has "always been there" I thought he got trapped in the photo and was portrayed smiling not out of happiness, but against his will.
No, the photo is from 1921. Jack was there in a previous incarnation. The hotel has trapped him in a recurring cycle of reincarnation.
So we gonna ignore the fact that danny has a fringe and we didn't notice at first cause it looks so good on him
My god ur right 😂
😂😑
A fringe?
That’s a fringe theory
what’s a fringe
That was a very thorough, and enthusiastic analysis. Thank you for the time you took in it. I've watched many, but you provided quite a few more in depth details. Pleasure to watch while I've been looking up old Shelley stuff.
Wasn't sure what to expect for this since it wasn't about super heroes but wow, your break down has shown a lot of things that nobody has ever thought about before.
I think its a team of people. Don't give all the credit to the spokesperson
@@stevenpadilla1890 Erik here. If it's me hosting the video, it means I wrote everything you see and hear in the video. We have editors who assemble the video with visuals. But I'm not just NR's "spokesperson." I'm a producer, NR's director of programming, and the channel's sole writer. We're a small team, but I'm personally handling everything that isn't post-production.
It's a pretty good video, but about 90% of those things were said before by others.
Doesn't lack merit to gather everything and put it on display like that.
He didn't understand the core of it though.
But he was very, very close.
@@proverbial4252 go on... Smarty pants
@@stevenpadilla1890 mostly from Rob Ager's Collative Learning, but made more accessible. Great video.
I interviewed the Grady twins when I worked for a newspaper, in 2008. They were a riot and reminded me of the Pigeon sisters of the original Odd Couple movie. They said that Kubrick was a delight to work with
This is the most sane and logical analysis of The Shining I've seen. So many conspiracies and completely out there theories about a deeper meaning and using the disappearance of a chair or the look on an actors face in a single scene to prove it all. So...thank you!
2020 Nov: *me thinking I've seen every documentary and analysis told* saying: "There's no way there could be more!"
2020 Oct: Suprise! Here's Johnny!!
Yeesh I'm going to have nightmares tonight. I thought a casual look back at the movie would be harmless but it has just made everything about the movie creepier.
Honestly same. It’s getting cold where I am and the windows are rattling, I’d have to watch a cartoon before I sleep
On the most macro level this film is about a writer overcoming writer’s block. The movie transitions from reality to the story that eventually gets written. Jack conflates his and the hotel’s history to overcome his writer’s block. That is why inconsistencies occur in the hotel and character details (i.e. the sisters and Grady, disappearing chairs, decals) Change in typewriter and color of clothing are clues to which world we are experiencing. How he contemplates the maze and types… The audience is transitioned into the story Jack is writing.
Thanks for "shining" a light on this movie.
Nice 😂
This movie doesn’t age it just gets better every year
Danny when he goes over the rugs is so tense.
Something you missed that’s debated fairly heavily; in room 237 the purple and green carpet is SAID to look phallic as a reflection of Jack’s homosexual behavior. I’d like to see the carpet as a keyhole instead. A keyhole symbolizes a truth being opened or peering through a locked room and finding secrets within. This dream could symbolize the “key”
Behind the locked door of 237. Showing a glimpse into the horrors jack committed against Danny.
Weird how ScreenRant somehow incorporated The Shinning into a theory about the Joker being John Connor's father...
the shinning
Do you wanna get sued?
Also weird how Luke and Leia kissed as if they weren't siblings...
@@-th1rty3- how does that have any relevance?
Jack Nicholson was 42 when filming began on The Shining 😮 So many layers to this movie! Cheers.
Best horror movie ever.
Collative Learning (Rob Ager) brought up a lot of these points. Is that where you got your ideas for this video?
Nice video, by the way though it's not "breaking the 4th wall" if theres actually another character in the exact place where the first character is looking at the camera. If Loyd wasn't there then yes Jack would be breaking the 4th wall. It only applies when a character is addressing the audience directly. Sorry to get all technical but someones gotta say it.
I really like when u guys do deep dives in movies outside of the Marvel world, especially classics like this. I've watched this multiple times. Great Great stuff 👏. Do more classic movies 🎥!
Collative Learning channel figured it out. Hopefully, that channel gets credit for this.
That's his gift you're gift to to compete with him.
Real talk. Wait till Ager finds out about this lol
@@blacknessabove No offense to Rob Ager, I like his videos, he does go a bridge too far though, like many Shining analysis.
The best way I can explain it is this way,
Full Metal Jacket is about Vietnam.
It’s not JUST about Vietnam.
However, no matter what other meanings, messages, metaphors, etc. are included, it doesn’t stop the film from being a Vietnam War movie.
The Shining IS a haunted house movie.
It’s about a haunted hotel & characters that have ESP.
It doesn’t stop being that, just because there is an obvious “B plot” about physical & emotional abuse and perhaps other large metaphors.
Collative Learning is legit I love it
@@TheStacanova I'm totally with you. Collative Learning goes waaay too far in so much of their theories. This was a good overview of the various theories, without the tons of conjecture and assumptions that come with going down the rabbit hole.
The Grady twins are not twins. They're sisters who dress alike. When the manager of the hotel is telling Jack about the murders, he mentions the girls are 8 and 10.
Yea everyone assumes they’re twins lmao
Fantastic and insightful break down! I never put the sexual abuse of Danny together. As you explained the connection and the ball rolled up to Danny. I gasped! And my heart-broke.
This movie was from the 1980 when the media wasn't rife with sexualization. So maybe that's an interpretation that's gone too far.
@@billkgeorge well Kubrick made a film about a pedophile/groomer called Lolita in 1962 so that’s kind of moot point. These types of horrible things have always been happening, just because you’re not comfortable with it doesn’t mean it isn’t the case. Almost all Kubrick films have some sort of abuse themes.
@Bill G I think artists are generally inclined to acknowledge sexual themes, if they please. Depending on the time and place, they have to "say it without saying it." Censorship was much heavier 40 years ago. I believe the sexual abuse themes are there, but Kubrick was sneaking them past the censorship bodies of not only the US, but several countries where The Shining was released.
Not everything is about sex.
@@robertschirm5185 Just because you think everything is about sex doesn't mean it is.
Great job Eric! You're one of the first YT personalities to mention the variations of Jack's manuscripts. Last year while in London I visited the Kubrick exhibit and saw them in person, sadly I don't have a photo to share of that specific prop display.
I enjoy your mention of mirrors as that hasn't been talked about often.
Best Shinning analysis: Lots of great information, told concisely, making the 34 minutes fly by.
If Kubrick makes no mistakes, then what’s with Danny’s sandwich that changes portions whenever the camera looks back at him lol
Im sure theres a deeper meaning there but Im not smart enough to see it
@@ConFlow247 you are not sure
.......ghosts
Seriously? You're taking it literal. Don't take Kubrick scenes or films literal. They are one giant parable.
@InSanctvs damn now i wanna make a horror movie so i can have an excuse to make continuity errors
This is the 1st horror movie I ever saw as a kid and it's still my All-time Favorite ❤️
Ullman's office is EXACTLY the same as the office of the doctor who interviews Danny Torrence in Doctor Sleep.
Jack Nicholson was amazing in this role. Scared the hell out of me. I've read the book, and while the movie was not as good, Jack's performance in this adaptation was excellent, followed the book's character very well.
I like what you did there at the end: "We simply 'Overlooked' it. Many things are easily overlooked at the Overlook Hotel!
Does this mean you are gonna cover Doctor Sleep
Would be nice
We already did last year! Here ya go: th-cam.com/video/_JvFJw1n-ek/w-d-xo.html
Do it again buddy. Do it again. Please.
this just shows how much of a genius stanley kubrick is
This is basically a summary of everything discussed in Room 237.
The mirrors detail was not discussed as much. Also I didn't know until seeing the Kubrick exhibit in London last year that there were resorts of Jack's typewriter in different languages, strangely I can't find that photo.
The Shining sequence in Ready Player One was recreated perfectly!
The Grady twins ... Doesn't Ulman tell Jack that the Grady girls were 10 and 8, not twins ???
Yep!
yes !
We need a deep analysis of Eyes Wide Shut
That's my favorite Kubrick film. I guess the shining and the paths of glory are his best. But the personally I love eyes wide shut
@@abishaipaul2298 I love Eyes Wide Shut so much. For me personally, it’s his best
Now this is an underrated film. It's Masterful and rich in themes as well.
check out the Collative Learning channel
There is one I seen it some sick stuff
Why is the bear costume scene the scariest scene in the movie🤣
Bravo, you've actually pointed out more details than I'd ever heard before and also defined clearly many old theories.
After watching this video I feel this movie
even more disturbing 😳. That's some spooky and creepy references!! Truly the best horror movie of all time 🙌 👏
One of your best! Kubrick was a brilliant, mind blowing director. And look! We STILL are breaking it down decades later!
Amazing analysis! I thoroughly enjoyed it. Stanley Kubrick was an absolute genius.
This is the most early I've been.
Fr same
Shout out to Rob Ager, he totally should've been given an acknowledgement in this video.
Huge portions of the video are lifted directly from his analysis of the movie.
He completely plagiarised Rob Ager
Everyone has their own theory or reading of Kubricks version of The Shining.
As stated in the video.
I don't.
I have the best interpretation that binds all interpretations together without losing track.
My lime green Stovington tshirt has been ordered and is on the way. I can't wait to confuse and perplex my 25 year old niece who loves the movie as much as I do
Doesn’t 42 somehow translate to “death” in Japanese. The answer to the life, universe, and everything is “death”?!
Only focusing on the "42" will lead you to get lost in the maze. The "42" it's just one of many clues that is left there like crumbs to follow the trail to a main and central meaning that is always present throughout the whole film.
Don't panic.
You guys really need to @ Rob Ager Collative Learning. Just a shout out would be the decent thing to do. Your standing on the shoulders of other You Tubers who did the hard work.
Thank you for saying that! I waited the whole video for them to give some credit to Rob
Phenomenal analysis with no filler. Thanks very much
In the book, I don't know that Jack is an "Everyman". It's established fairly early on that he's abusive, without intention. His alcoholism fuels his anger, resulting in him breaking Danny's arm when he's about 4 years old if I recall.
So happy you mentioned the Norval Morisseau painting, I noticed it right away and it's just something nobody has ever mentioned before.
Half this video is straight copied from Rob ager collective learning.
Every filmmaker should write down every single secret of their films and when they die ,it should be revealed to public
What’s the fun in that.
I bet it would be disappointing. Because the “secrets” or “ Easter eggs” might not be intentional.
They would just lie.
If the hotel asked him to change the number so guests wouldn’t be scared to stay in the room, wouldn’t they just be scared of the room 237? Unless they didn’t really have a room 237 then that makes sense.
They did not have a Room 237.
Kubrick be like: Space may be the final frontier, but its made in a Hollywood basement.
There is also a teddy bear laying on the floor towards the middle of the film that is located in the exact same spot that Jack kills Dick
Maybe Halloran is the bear, then.
The moon wasnt discovered to be 238,000 miles away from the earth until well after the movie was made. Prior to the movie we believed it to be 237,000 miles away.
Thank you for confirming this.
"discovered"
Interesting that Jack looks at the mirror before transitioning to Lloyd, and in 2019s Doctor Sleep... Jack IS “Lloyd”, and he’s been absorbed into the hotel.
Spending half my life working in restaurants, the most disturbing aspect was how that pantry was organized.
We need more videos like this 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Do “EYES WIDE SHUT” next plz!!!!!!!!! 👀