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- In this video I'm discussing all the major updates EcoFlow has rolled out into the PowerStream system and Smart Plugs over the last six months. There have been some amazing new features added that it's worth being aware of.
All these have been added through firmware updates. This does not need a newer version of the product but I am talking about a system using a Delta 2 Max battery for storage.
00:00 - Hardware Reliance on Apps
00:40 - Introduction
01:30 - Data Visualisation
02:04 - Ecoflow Mesh
03:22 - Improved Reliability
05:06 - Automation
07:10 - Powerstream New Stats Layout
08:26 - Solar Power Info
08:52 - Feed-In Control
09:32 - Smart Plug Management
11:22 - Dual Power Input
14:30 - Final Thoughts
This video is not affiliated with EcoFlow in any way. All products were purchased by me and EcoFlow did not request that I make this video.
#ecoflow #powerstream #solar #offgrid
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Thank you so much for this video! It can be difficult to know what is new and you conveyed it very clear. Thanks again ^^
Great video, thank you !
Do you know if there is a risk that the PowerStream will "keep online" or "wake up" the on-grid invertor, when the grid is down ?
Well, seems I acquired a cheap deal on a refurbished delta max 2016wh (looks brand new) to connect the second powerstream to. I signed in using my second email address. I have a Deco TP Link mesh router set up on 2.4ghz for one and my sky router on the other. I signed each plug I wanted on each powerstream / delta max & Delta 2 max. Ie fridge freezer and a bunch of others on powerstream one, TV, lights and a bunch of others on the second powerstream. Balanced across the two routers. It peaked at 1041 Watts from the solar panels today using all solar inputs as mentioned in your video. 2 x 4 mc4 PV inputs one xt60 on delta max, 2 x xt60 on delta 2 max . A full 7 solar inputs working to their own individual panels, so I'm ultra happy. Think I'm finally going to be 🔆 zero leccy bill until October 🤞
Wish they had this for the US looks like a fun toy
Great video. Do you know if the Delta 2 (not Max) power station can support a solar panel input while connected to the PowerStream?
I think the powerstream is a great idea in principle, I managed to buy two although they are not avaliable in the UK, I have one conneced to my Delta 2 soon to be Delta 2 Max and the other connected to my Delta 2KW extra battery, what I noticed is the smart plugs will draw power from either powerstream, very handy if your extra battery has run out of power, it will automaticly start using power from the Powerstream connected to my Delta 2
Is the total output of 2 power stream added to1600W? Or is it still 800W?
Hi,
Great video. I had a question for automation.
I wanted to know what is the feed in control?
I have set it to IF battery above 90% ACTIVATE feeding control on my power stream.
How is this different to ACTIVATE prioritise power supply on my power stream?
I essentially want to know the difference between the two modes.
thanks for the informative video what do ypu think the gain will be if using PV panels-powerstream-smartplugs without a power station, thanks
You would obviously gain something on a sunny day and the gain could be multiple kWh per day. The problem doing it this way is that power generation rarely matches demand so you’d have a nice sunny day and you’d be dumping loads back into the grid (unless your house has a high base load) or you just wouldn’t generate enough on a cloudy day. You need a battery to ride out those peaks and troughs (though one battery also doesn’t last long really). Also, the PowerStream won’t be accessible in the app outside of daylight as it will turn off.
Hi,
Enjoy you vids,well set out.
I've noticed after a recent update under household power demand in Powerstream settings,so under the smart plug tab their is another tab smart meter mode in beta,any idea how this works
So, 1800watt over 4 PV inputs. I can now add more panels to the roof and run another set to both the delta 2max inputs to max out spring summer sunshine. Winter a bit crap so i added 2 times 150 ah lifepo4's and victron charge them on octopus go at 9p per kwh and each battery is xt60'd to the delta 2 max to beef it up and get longer run times and use that cheap 9 p at peak times in the day. It's great you get 390 watts raw out of those lifepo4's for a good 7 or 8 hours. I know it's a Frankenstein system, but I love pushing this little set up. Do you think they'll do an xt150 splitter/hub so you can wire both ecoflow EB's as well as the powerstream ? I really dont like wriggling that cable out to swap it over. But needs must I guess. I must be at 9kw storage capacity but if I can sell a kidney, I want to go more if I can🤔
Thank you for this video.
Does lighting run off the powerstream given that wont have a smart plug attached? I.e. can I still draw from the battery if my appliance is wired into my ring main without a smart plug.
I don’t know how that works. Here’s what I do know. If I’m using 100W in the house and put in 100W from the PowerStream, my meter will show 0W usage. If I then turn on a 20W ‘main’ light and increase to 120W on the PowerStream I can bring my meter back to 0W. However, what I don’t know is whether this truly classed as zero usage. 🤷🏻♂️ Has anyone else tested this?
Thanks for sharing the updates that I did not know about....you would think Ecoflow would make a big deal about this with their firmware updates and upskilling their users
Thank you for this informative video.
I have a PS and a DP. I would like to have dual input 1. from PS & 2. from the mains for a few hours mid day (as I have panels on the roof connected to the house).
Would I just connect the PS to the DP and put the mains charger to the DP on a smart plug that turns on around mid day ?
Yes. Since this update, that’s exactly what you can do. 👍🏻 Why would you need mains in at midday if that’s when you have maximum solar generation? Surely the mains bit would be late night on a low tariff?
@@tdcattech Apologies I seems I have not explained my situation very well.
The energy the roof solar panels generate go into the house and if I do not use it, the energy is wasted.
I therefore wanted to charge the DP for a 4ish hours midday to use some of the energy that would otherwise be wasted.
Today I just plugged the AC charger in and all worked (manually).
As soon as my euro charger comes (I have a UK DP but I am in Europe) I will plug into a euro smart plug and automate.
Thank you again for your clear video
After watching your last video I tried to order a powerstream. However they are no longer sold in the UK as regulations require an inverter to be hardwired. I was told this from Hampshire Generators and they are always really helpful. Can't really see any way around the problem. Thanks for your videos anyway.
Purchase from abroad and had it delivered to the UK (via third party if needed) ?
Wondering if running 2 seperate powerstreams using one on 2.4 GHz and the other on 5 GHz separate frequencies would do anything to help run other smart plugs on the separate powerstream ? I know I can set the sky router to have 2 separate channels. May give it a go to see how the smart plugs on the separate unit behave. Networks not my strength but worth a try ? Has anyone had any success with ecoflow mesh ? Made no difference when I tried.
Hola, tengo una duda, se puede hacer la carga solar dual, por la entrada solar y con el Microinversor con 4 paneles de 100 cada uno y por separado por la entrada solar del delta 2 con otro panel de 100...
Do you have experience with the PowerStream combined with a power station of the river series or a power station from another manufacturer?
I am interested in how to automate this combination and whether the new feed-in setting has effects.
I'm not really sure how that would work but I also have no experience of that so I'd be happy to hear from someone who knows.
Have you seen the Ecoflow Alternator Charger that is on sale (in the UK). It looks identical to the Powerstream, but is aimed at charging your batteries in a car/RV. Wondering if it is just a rebadged Powerstream that I could use as a Powerstream with the appropriate cables?
Really interested in ongoing findings for running two power stream units . My Germany 800 watter comes tomorrow! 3 more ecoflow smart plugs and another power stream battery cable. My delta 2max and extra batteries are on steroids with 4 x 150ah lifepo4's 2 each in parallel going to the xt60' sand getting nearly 400 watts all day top up on top of solar. I think I need to stop, but no stopping the addiction 😂
How are you charging the LiFePo4's - using cheap grid energy overnight or via a separate charge controller?
Did you make up your own XT60 cable to get the full 15A into the D2M's MPPTs? I understand that the cigarette lighter to XT60i cable that Ecoflow provide is wired in such a way that it limits the current to 8A but I couldn't get any more current when I wired my 12v battery into the D2M through an MC4 to XT60 cable.
@@chrisnortheast888 xt60i orange connector (instead of yellow) to M8 ring connectors (bought from Amazon)for the lifepo4's. Game changer. I bought a 30 amp Victron charger as wanted Bluetooth. I also have 2 x 5amp Victron chargers connected too. I split the output to two male connectors and plug the batteries into the output of the Victron and it charges the 4 x150ah on Octopus go on a smart plug between 00:30 and 04:30 so it is only 9p per unit avoiding using 32p per unit in the day. Works a treat. I do have to swap them over to the xt60 inputs on the delta 2 max usually when we get down to 60%. It's no real hardship to swap over. The power stream is connected to the XT150 and I end up with solar going into the 2 x mc4 inputs and when sunny have that now also supplying the 2 x xt60 on the delta 2 Max. Best I have got is 982 watts from the panels. Best thing ecoflow did was to allow 2x500watt on the xt60 inputs on the d2max as well as 600/800watts input on the powerstream simultaneously, making 1800watt solar possible. Thanks to the channel @TDcatTech for persuading me to persevere as I had awful trouble with the set up while I was learning the ropes. Last thing is any surplus I get at the end of the day, that gets put back into the 4x150ah as the victrons are connected to the delta 2 max 240volt output which makes sure they end up fully charged to 14.6 volts overnight ready for all day use 600ah giving 392 watts extra all next day when needed if it's a grey UK day the next day, like it mostly has been.
@@under2boots As well as the D2M and the four LiFePo4's do you also have Ecoflow extra batteries? If so how are you planning on connecting the two Powerstreams? Am I correct in thinking that your LiFePo4's are running at 12v (you haven't done two series connections to make a pair of 24v)? The reason I ask is that the PS will accept 8A (100W) in via the River Series (cigarette lighter) cable at 12v but the MPPTs (unlike the ones in the D2M) need more than 15v before they start up.
@@chrisnortheast888 The 4 x150 Ah are wired in parallel pairs to give 12volts still and a longer run time at 386watts thought the 2spare xt60 sockets on the D2Max. I was a bit worried what in series would jack it up too high. I didn't want to damage my unit. 386 Watts running all day is a good boost when it's a grey day or sunshine and cloud variation.
@@chrisnortheast888 I do have 2 x Ecoflow EB so it's 6kw. I have one power stream on the second xt150 socket but the 2nd powerstream is just putting extra live solar in the house circuit currently. I do have asecond 0.4mtr powerstream xt150 cable coming and another 3 ecoflow smart plugs coming taking it to 10 total. But that leaves me with the dilemma. It's crazy expensive this far. The only real route is a second Delta 2 Max 🤔 best offer £1529 on Amazon at the moment. But other things to pay for at the moment so will probably take the live solar benefit in the day to get extra wattage in the household sockets for now.
I got my Export MPAN from UK power networks DNO G98 Commissioned. but I am having trouble with Octopus keep asking for a MCS Microgeneration Certificate before they allow or pay my an export tariff. Why oh why do you need MCS for plug in devices. Wish octopus would come on side with DIY market.
Can you use the power stream in the DPU?
In the section for Solar power info it looks like you've got the "combined" bug with the update, your two solar feeds have been combined into PV2. Try pulling PV1 to see that the PV2 figure changes
Yes. I’ve already been in touch with EcoFlow around that one. I got a response just after filming this stating it will be fixed in the next update. To answer your question, the power does drop when removing PV1. I’m just curious to know if the power is being limited to the theoretical max of one input (500W)? We haven’t really had enough sun to tell 😂
@@tdcattech yep, looking for same, have same problem with power source... on the bright side (see what I did there) the sun is climbing higher every week 😁
That’s good news for everything and everyone IMHO. November, December and January are really dismal months ☹️
Looks like the latest update has fixed the ‘combined’ problem. Both PV inputs are showing independently now. 👍🏻
Great Video. I am keen to buy a Powerstream, but as you know, they are off-sale. However, I have learned of a similar system - the Marstek B2500. That is available in the UK. Have you seen that system? There is one in depth video on YT worth watching. I am reluctant to plump for the Marstek as I already have Ecoflow batteries. Do you think there is any chance the powerstream will come back to the UK in the near future or is it a dead duck? Thanks
They are still available on the Europe store, so chances are its going to come back.
The EU version should electrically be the same as the UK version.
I would agree but it’s not a topic I cover because it all seems to be hearsay and rumour and I do not want to get into regulations for one country on a worldwide video. I hope EcoFlow sort this out and bring it back to the UK.
You can buy the EU version and get a EU to UK fused plug
Can we have 2 PS using 4 balcony panels in home, each PS has a DP2 unit attached?
I wanted to automatically turn on the charging cable of a power bank with a smart plug, when there are more than 100W coming in. Unfortunately the automation just won’t work. Do you have an idea, why that might be the case?
That sounds like a perfectly reasonable scenario. No idea why it wouldn't work. Have you tried it with a more fixed condition to make sure the plug will otherwise turn on under x scenario. I'm not exactly how the 'solar power above' works. Above for a split second? Above for 1 minute? It's a little unclear.
I still don't get the utility of the system if it's not smart enough to provide the right energy to the house, like if i turn on my tv and my pc does it switch automatically to send energy to them from the battery? If my base power is 300W an the solar is producing 700W does it send automatically the 400W to the battery and if another loads comes up it adjust it to 500W to the house and the rest 200W to the battery?
if you have an Ecoflow battery and a powerstream you set a basic permanent current e.g. 80 Watts for small devices. This current will permanently feed by the solar panels or supported by the battery. If your solar pannels deliver more, the battery will be charged.
If you have the plugs (sockets) the power will be dynamically delivered to the plugs to the maximal possible delivery. (600 Watts.) E.g. If you have a plug befor a washing maschine which takes 1500 Watts then 600 will be delivered from the Solars and the Battery the missing rest will come from your grid.
@@martinm3422I get that they try to be super efficient, but my rule of thumb would be solar first, battery second, grid third.
And how many people are living in that house? Because me as a single person don’t need more than a 3kw inverter and probably rarely draw more than 2500 watt at any given time.
any idea of the best place to buy these from? it is out of stock on the site and i am reading it may have been discontinued in the UK.
Online auction site from Germany. With the 20% VAT that you'll have to pay when it comes through customs, it'll still only cost about 220 quid. They're the same model number as the ones that were sold in the UK except it'll come with a euro plug on the cable. I just use a travel adaptor with mine.
@@chrisnortheast888 cheers sir which site?
@@chrisnortheast888 was it studio-ausruestung by any chance on ebay?
@@lbwatty That's them, they posted mine out straight away. Don't accidentally buy the 600W version that they also sell. I got a letter from Parcel Force about a week after I placed the order explaining that they were ready to deliver it and giving instructions on how to pay the customs fee online (20% plus a £12 Admin Fee). Item was new and in a sealed box.
what is average electricity cost per KWh in your country? (I mean price at your door - what U pay for electricity, transportation, taxes and whatever that adds costs)? thank you.
I bought a UK powersteam when they were available and wanted another one. I recently bought another from Germany. It is a new 800w unit with the same serial number as the UK model. Only difference is the plug which I cut off and replaced with a UK plug. Price was 310euro plus £66 for VAT and customs charge. However, having two powerstreams on the same network is causing me some headaches (please firmware gods fix it). In that I cannot specify which smartplugs are assigned to individual powersteam units. All smartplugs show on both units. Disabling smartplugs for one powersteam in the app also disables the smartplug for the other powersteam even though both powersteams are shown separately in the app with different ID numbers. In fact changing any setting in one powersteam also changes the other. Anyone else using more than on powersteam at once?
I'll be honest, I didn't even know it would work at all in this configuration. I doubt it's designed to work this way. The smart plugs aren't allocated to a specific 'space' (and can't be at this time) so it would definitely need an update from EcoFlow I think.
I just received my second Powerstream yesterday so am having a play. I have them both plugged into the same Delta 2 Max which I wasn't sure would work but it does - I've had the D2M supplying 600W to each PS simultaneously so 1.2kW being backfed without solar connected. How are you connecting your pair of PSs?
I've found that it's possible to set a different base load for each PS but, like you say, each smartplug connects to both PSs and the energy supply is split 50/50 between them. Rather oddly, if one of the PSs is unplugged from the mains then the other one continues to only supply 50% of the smartplug's requested energy.
I was hoping to create a second 'Space' and allocate a Powerstream to each one but I'm having no success with that so far. Maybe setting up a guest Wifi network might allow two 'Spaces' to be created?
Really interested in ongoing findings for running two power stream units . My Germany 800 watter comes tomorrow! 3 more ecoflow smart plugs and another power stream battery cable. My delta 2max and extra batteries are on steroids with 4 x 150ah lifepo4's 2 each in parallel going to the xt60' sand getting nearly 400 watts all day top up on top of solar. I think I need to stop, but no stopping the addiction 😂
I am having an issue where the Powestream can see the smart plugs. I can turn them on and off. It even shows the power consumption. Powerstream does not however increase the power when the smart plugs are on. Anyone have a solution? All firmware updated to the lastest.
Do you definitely have them enabled under the ‘Household Power Demand’ section? I’ll assume you do and also add that this happened to me randomly last week. I power cycled the PowerStream (battery and solar out) and all was well.
Yes they are enabled under Household energy consumption. I have cycled the equipment off and on again and even used the 'unbind' option and then reconnected the devices to the app.
Hi, I had the same problem with smart plugs. Powerstream/smartplug combination is very sensitive to WIFI MESH architecture. I had to buy additional wifi router and create simple 2.4 GHz wifi network for Ecoflow. It solved this problem for me.
I have no wifi, does it all work with just bluetooth?
Apologies, I responded thinking the comment was on a different video. This needs Wi-Fi as far as I know.
When will it hit the us
A shame we can not use the tapo smart plugs we have 7 of them
Oh yes. That would be nice. It's unlikely to ever happen when EcoFlow can lock you in and charge you 6 times the price of a regular smart plug. 🔌
@@tdcattech Yep we love the Smart plugs & smart lights going to buy more
Yeah all ‘smart’ products need local server support via WiFi instead of needing a central server.
Realising when you have just reached 14 ecoflow smartplugs over 2 powerstreams running 🤷
But still no p1-plug…..
But the Powerstream is NOT approved for use in the UK... EcoFlow told me this last week, and this is why they do not sell it on their website. So why do you not mention this? Also firmware updates are academic to UK customers who cannot buy or use this unapproved product.
This is just an information video. It’s got nothing specifically to do with the UK. As for not mentioning the approval issues, it’s not a topic I’m addressing as it’s around regulations. That is quite intentional.
Thanks for your prompt reply. I think that the abscence regulatory compliance for a power device that you are an advocate of, is a very important piece of information. As we disagree, I will be unsubscribing.
Sounds fair. 👍🏻
Seems to have ENA approval now for the 800watt but nothing from Ecoflow yet from what that involves or was changed to be granted approval
Complete sap @@Chris-gy9pk
The app is terrible impossible to save energy as much as possible. If my battery is full the solar panel only sends the energy set from the app and not the full power of the solar panel …. Useless