Great test! What a nice little portable setup for emergencies, or for backpacking. In an emergency, where you were just doing check-ins, this Anker could power the Starlink for days!
@@AceParks O bought the 27k last week and one day after I received i got a message from amazon about a recall. The unit I received was also not working so I returned and bought the smaller one, 20k with the charging base.
@@AceParks I dont recommend the bigger one. Look for the temperature fail. Since the 737 model they have this problem. The sensor, or the software in my opinion, is not working properly and does not allow to charge or use.
I just bought a Starlink Mini offgrid power kit from Canadian supplier Microgreen (C$1200/US$870) . . it pairs a 1500Wh solar generator with a 405W PV panel (also includes solar brackets, 15m PV cable and 100W DC 5521 adapter). The objective of the bigger battery & solar is to run our Mini 24/7 off-grid, not just 3-4 hours of back-up power. It will be interesting to see whether this setup keeps our internet running as the days get shorter here in Canada.
Sounds like an awesome setup. I’ll have to look at it and see if I can come up with something similar. A totally solar powered Mini would be interesting!
@@StarlinkHardware I just bought the 200w version. Some reviewers and consumers are saying that the battery gauge on this is very inaccurate. Despite it showing 100 % , it continues to charge at roughly 30-40 W for nearly 30 mins. Some are saying when it is at 100 % on the gauge , it is actually like 80 %. Maybe you can test this mine will arrive in a couple of weeks
I've just ordered a Starlink Mini. Need a power pack for temporary short term pickups along the road. Was thinking of the 27K, should I be getting the 20K? Need something for the laptop and phone in any case.
Awesome video! I'm interested in this because my wife and I just came back from vacation, we were in a city known for losing power and sure enough, we lost power (and internet). Of course, TSA only allows 27mAh max (two per person), so I'd make sure to travel with four of the batteries and the Starlink Mini anytime I'm traveling somewhere with sketchy power/internet.
If you can fit it in your luggage, a portable 60 watt solar panel might also be a good investment. You could be charging one of the power banks while using the others. I'm getting ready to do a review on the a Jackery portable solar panel for use with the Mini. It can significantly increase runtime while the sun is out.
That's a great test in the context of just comparing battery capacity for LiIon power packs in general. Having said that, these Anker units are on the smaller end of the typical power banks someone might have in a portable situation.
i use a Bluetti EB3 as my power source. Yes, i know it's bigger, but for the price difference i can have a unit that can do more than just provide 12v usb c. I have been getting 4-6 hours depending on usage and i have added a small solar panel that can keep the bluetti charged and the starlink running almost indefinitely
Yep, the bigger power stations good for just about any situation where space/weight/portability aren't the top priority. I use an Ecoflow River 2 and a Pecron E600LFP that can power the Mini for much longer than a portable power bank. I originally got the Anker power bank for a backpack/portable use case where the larger power stations aren't practical. For example, you can take the Mini + Anker Prime 27,650 mah power bank in your carry on luggage on an airplane.
I have an Anker Solix C300 portable power station, with this i have run my Starlink mini for over 6 hours. But I also have the old Anker 737 which I think is 24K. It is nice to have a smaller more portable setup. If you have a Solar panel that can output to usb c then your still good for a few hours depending on the sun. I will be changing my power bank to the new Anker Prime 27600 version in this video because apparently it can also work as a UPS, so with a small solar and lots of sun your talking a light setup with potentially a long run time outside.
Already a proud owner of the Anker Prime 27.600, great buy. I also have the EB3A, do you connect directly to the 220V plug? Don't have much time for travelling but.. I'm still considering to buy the starlink mini kit
Good test. It would seem u def normal intermittent use you would get much more time since most would seem unlikely to be constantly streaming. So great stress test to push it.
Just what I was looking for in terms of working the mini with this Anker bank line. Could up please share the link for the cord that you used? Thank you!
I used the Starlink USB-C cord, but I don’t believe they sell it separately now. So it’s just the Starlink Mini Car Adapter now, which includes the cable: www.starlink.com/shop/products/us-consumer-car-adapter-mini
Thinking the same thing I bought the 27 KmAh one. But the cable was not on sale yet. And bought an off brand one with USBC to DC5.5mmx2 output. recently waiting to buy the Anker solix C1000 for use with the Starlink mini. will see how it goes. Thanks for the video. Very good.
A 12V 100Ah WattCycle LiFePO4 battery for $150 and a $10 IP2368 set up for 4S 3.2V cells would run this forever. The IP2368 is surprisingly efficient even when boosting to 20V.
Hi their thanks for the video, I bought both the Anker 27650 and the mini because of the videos, I was wondering if you could help me out..do you know what numbers you put in the Anker app for the mini,
Suppose you fed the Anker battery bank with a 50watt camping solar panel while having the Starlink Mini draw from it? I wonder how long you could extend the time doing that.
Quite a bit when the sun is out. Depending on the actual output of the panel, you could run it without using any battery capacity while the sun is out.
You should have recharged the smaller bank and started the test again as the starlink uses much more power while updating, not just from the Internet usage but the actual CPU usage on the device while it updates. I think you could have gotten another 15 or so minutes from the 20,000 mAh had the dish not updated.
@@smoak888 That's assuming it is a lithium ion pack a 3.7v nominal voltage. If it's LiFePO4 chemistry then it would be 3.2v making the pack only 86.4Wh.
@@smoak888 a lot of these big packs are designed to be allowed on commercial flights by FAA rules which has a max of 100Wh. So I was really wondering what battery chemistry they are. Because using mAh as a measurement can only equate to actual capacity if nominal voltage is known.
@@malimish correct. I never liked mah rating because of that fact. Anker states 27000 mah but I believe it is based on iPhone /samsung voltage charging which is about 3.6 v I believe. I prefer Wh. I thought I read somewhere that Anker uses 3.7V for their calculations
I think I normally get slightly more run time on mine - however - I dont use them with the 50ft cable. I have a 2ft cable since I can put it right next to the Mini. I wonder how much loss you are getting do to the long'ish cable. Worth a test maybe?
I would guess it’s slightly less efficient at 16 feet vs 2 feet. It was about 86 degrees out, maybe the sun and heat had something to do with runtime as well. I normally run it on a 3 ft cable but wanted to try out the Starlink product.
For the price of one of these Anker power bricks, I would rather buy an inexpensive LiFePO4 12volt battery and a generic barrel plug cable and run the Starlink for a day or 2 assuming this is for a home backup.
This is a follow up to my Starlink Emergency Kit video where portability is the key. I’m aware larger less expensive batteries exist. But the point here is you can throw this in a backpack and get on an airplane with it. Or go hiking. Things like that. This entire setup is like 4 lbs.
Not with USB-C. But you can use the larger power stations that have inverters built-in. Or you can convert the Gen 2 to run from DC power: th-cam.com/video/67jolgTfaLU/w-d-xo.html
The USB-C cable is only about 16 feet long, wouldn't reach the table. I put it under the dish to get it out of the direct sunlight. It was hot the day of testing with no clouds.
Why would you run a 40' power cable from the dish all the way back to the table ?? He just put a short power cable on it, and kept all the equipment together.
Sorry, but if the point of this setup is for emergency use, you’re not going to be passively consuming videos. You’ll be communicating, which means far more transmitting of packets. I’d love to see a test where you’re in a zoom conference, or FaceTiming people instead to see what kind of wattage bidirectional traffic consumes.
Speaking of videos everyone just had a flashback to Billy Madison after reading that. Voice uses way less data than video my dude. I am pretty sure your tow truck driver is not hot enough to FaceTime
Downloading doesn't use any more power than it just sitting there in my experience. And in the sun, maybe, but it's under the dish in the shade. And being in the sun is a real world variable that most people will have to deal with.
1. Should have simply installed updates first. Not an insane thing to do to remove that ambiguity. 2. what maniac is leaving their power bank in the sun…sounds like a great way to start a fire 😂. The second test also has pretty different thermal differences as it was quite shaded. 3. The videos are also probably cached if they replayed. All of these things is probably why the second bank probably got better than 38%. Nonetheless, appreciate you doing this. Helps give a good ballpark for understanding.
Great test! What a nice little portable setup for emergencies, or for backpacking. In an emergency, where you were just doing check-ins, this Anker could power the Starlink for days!
This is a great video. Thanks for taking the time to make this.
Thanks for all the effort conducting the tests!
Very nice test. Just dont forget that the 27KmAh cost twice the 20KmAh, but dont last twice the time.
No wonder they were sold out 😂
@@AceParks O bought the 27k last week and one day after I received i got a message from amazon about a recall. The unit I received was also not working so I returned and bought the smaller one, 20k with the charging base.
@@tamowill why does the smaller one have double battery life though, cause I definitely almost bought the bigger one just now 😭
@@AceParks I dont recommend the bigger one. Look for the temperature fail. Since the 737 model they have this problem. The sensor, or the software in my opinion, is not working properly and does not allow to charge or use.
Normally yes, but I saw the 27k version was marked down to the same price as the 20k (which I already had), so I grabbed one.
I just bought a Starlink Mini offgrid power kit from Canadian supplier Microgreen (C$1200/US$870) . . it pairs a 1500Wh solar generator with a 405W PV panel (also includes solar brackets, 15m PV cable and 100W DC 5521 adapter). The objective of the bigger battery & solar is to run our Mini 24/7 off-grid, not just 3-4 hours of back-up power. It will be interesting to see whether this setup keeps our internet running as the days get shorter here in Canada.
Sounds like an awesome setup. I’ll have to look at it and see if I can come up with something similar. A totally solar powered Mini would be interesting!
@@StarlinkHardware I just bought the 200w version. Some reviewers and consumers are saying that the battery gauge on this is very inaccurate. Despite it showing 100 % , it continues to charge at roughly 30-40 W for nearly 30 mins. Some are saying when it is at 100 % on the gauge , it is actually like 80 %. Maybe you can test this mine will arrive in a couple of weeks
I've just ordered a Starlink Mini. Need a power pack for temporary short term pickups along the road. Was thinking of the 27K, should I be getting the 20K? Need something for the laptop and phone in any case.
Awesome video! I'm interested in this because my wife and I just came back from vacation, we were in a city known for losing power and sure enough, we lost power (and internet). Of course, TSA only allows 27mAh max (two per person), so I'd make sure to travel with four of the batteries and the Starlink Mini anytime I'm traveling somewhere with sketchy power/internet.
If you can fit it in your luggage, a portable 60 watt solar panel might also be a good investment. You could be charging one of the power banks while using the others. I'm getting ready to do a review on the a Jackery portable solar panel for use with the Mini. It can significantly increase runtime while the sun is out.
That's a great test in the context of just comparing battery capacity for LiIon power packs in general. Having said that, these Anker units are on the smaller end of the typical power banks someone might have in a portable situation.
Great content in terms of real time and life test 👌
This is what the world needed during the pandemic. 😅
Wonderful test great job!!!
Im using a Bluetti AC50B for my starlink mini but its rather bulky, im gonna get that 27,650 mah one now.
look at Anker Solix C300 DC
i use a Bluetti EB3 as my power source. Yes, i know it's bigger, but for the price difference i can have a unit that can do more than just provide 12v usb c. I have been getting 4-6 hours depending on usage and i have added a small solar panel that can keep the bluetti charged and the starlink running almost indefinitely
Yep, the bigger power stations good for just about any situation where space/weight/portability aren't the top priority. I use an Ecoflow River 2 and a Pecron E600LFP that can power the Mini for much longer than a portable power bank. I originally got the Anker power bank for a backpack/portable use case where the larger power stations aren't practical. For example, you can take the Mini + Anker Prime 27,650 mah power bank in your carry on luggage on an airplane.
I have an Anker Solix C300 portable power station, with this i have run my Starlink mini for over 6 hours. But I also have the old Anker 737 which I think is 24K. It is nice to have a smaller more portable setup. If you have a Solar panel that can output to usb c then your still good for a few hours depending on the sun.
I will be changing my power bank to the new Anker Prime 27600 version in this video because apparently it can also work as a UPS, so with a small solar and lots of sun your talking a light setup with potentially a long run time outside.
Already a proud owner of the Anker Prime 27.600, great buy. I also have the EB3A, do you connect directly to the 220V plug?
Don't have much time for travelling but.. I'm still considering to buy the starlink mini kit
@@L.Parisi I mostly use the USB C to connect it. I find that i can squeeze more juice out of it this way and leave the AC outlets switched off.
Good test. It would seem u def normal intermittent use you would get much more time since most would seem unlikely to be constantly streaming. So great stress test to push it.
Hilux can provide 120W (10A @12V) on the jack. So a Xiomi 100W lighter jack PD-Type C charger is more than enough.
Useful test! Can you review star gear products? I saw they have a bag that can put anker power banks inside with starlink mini.
Just what I was looking for in terms of working the mini with this Anker bank line. Could up please share the link for the cord that you used? Thank you!
I used the Starlink USB-C cord, but I don’t believe they sell it separately now. So it’s just the Starlink Mini Car Adapter now, which includes the cable: www.starlink.com/shop/products/us-consumer-car-adapter-mini
Thinking the same thing I bought the 27 KmAh one.
But the cable was not on sale yet.
And bought an off brand one with USBC to DC5.5mmx2 output. recently waiting to buy the Anker solix C1000 for use with the Starlink mini. will see how it goes. Thanks for the video. Very good.
You will have some reference of the cable on Amazon. Any link?? Thank you and sorry.
Useful test thank you ❤
These battery packs need a full 100 to zero charge+discharge cycle to calibration BMS and SOC
Great work 😊
Great info, thanks much
Great information!
A 12V 100Ah WattCycle LiFePO4 battery for $150 and a $10 IP2368 set up for 4S 3.2V cells would run this forever. The IP2368 is surprisingly efficient even when boosting to 20V.
27000 mah battery is a 99 wh battery. So if the star link draws 20-30w, you will get 3-4 hours
I found out the long way haha
How'd you do the text at 14:35? I've been wanting to lock text to a surface in a video, don't even know what software to start with.
Hi their thanks for the video, I bought both the Anker 27650 and the mini because of the videos, I was wondering if you could help me out..do you know what numbers you put in the Anker app for the mini,
Great test. But battery under the heat from sun degrades performance and discharges quicker.
That’s why I put it under the dish. In any case, real world testing has real world variables.
Suppose you fed the Anker battery bank with a 50watt camping solar panel while having the Starlink Mini draw from it? I wonder how long you could extend the time doing that.
Quite a bit when the sun is out. Depending on the actual output of the panel, you could run it without using any battery capacity while the sun is out.
For Starlink Mini ... the Anker Solix C200 DC is the way
Can the usb cable be used with the gen 3 dish too or only the mini?
I can’t find a place to buy the factory cable anywhere
if theres a way to shorten the cable you should get better results
Solar panel pass through?
You should have recharged the smaller bank and started the test again as the starlink uses much more power while updating, not just from the Internet usage but the actual CPU usage on the device while it updates.
I think you could have gotten another 15 or so minutes from the 20,000 mAh had the dish not updated.
It didn’t actually update. Just downloaded the update to install overnight.
@StarlinkHardware ah then the difference would be negligible, thanks for the info
What are the Wh ratings for the packs?
27000 is 99 wh
@@smoak888 That's assuming it is a lithium ion pack a 3.7v nominal voltage. If it's LiFePO4 chemistry then it would be 3.2v making the pack only 86.4Wh.
@@malimish I think they get their mah rating based on typical iPhone/samsung voltage use…so you may be correct slightly on the lower side
@@smoak888 a lot of these big packs are designed to be allowed on commercial flights by FAA rules which has a max of 100Wh. So I was really wondering what battery chemistry they are. Because using mAh as a measurement can only equate to actual capacity if nominal voltage is known.
@@malimish correct. I never liked mah rating because of that fact. Anker states 27000 mah but I believe it is based on iPhone /samsung voltage charging which is about 3.6 v I believe. I prefer Wh. I thought I read somewhere that Anker uses 3.7V for their calculations
So can you charge the Anker (from your Y) at the same time as you are using Starlink connected to it?
Foldable solar panel, Starlink mini
Can't find that usb-c cable (from starlink) anywhere!
I'm also trying to find this!
they should just put a solar panel into the mini so it can absorb sun + provide internet at once, :D
Where did you buy the Starlink USB-C cable?
It’s the OEM Starlink Mini USB-C cable from their online shop.
Do you know if the 27,650 model uses LiFePO4 batteries?
where can i get the power cord? I need the name. thanks!
It’s the Starlink USB-C cable, you can get it from the shop on their website.
Can the 27650 be charged via solar panel, while running power to the mini
Can you charge these ankers while using?
I have one of those and yes you can.
Yep! Both USB-C ports on the top are in or out. You can input/output simultaneously in just about any configuration you want.
@@StarlinkHardware seems like a no brainer to me. Thanks!
Sold. I’m ordering one now. On sale for $129
Wish there was a way to charge it with solar
@@StarlinkHardware so then you should be able to daisy-chain 2 Anker bricks together (or more?) and run longer while still staying very portable.
Shouldn't the Starlink come with an optional solar panel!
What’s the advantage of leaving the power bank near the dish in the sun yet the cable is long enough? Asking for a friend
In this example the cable is 16 ft but I wanted to test the WiFi at around 40 ft. And typically with USB-C cables, they are very short.
@@StarlinkHardwareA short cable would almost certainly be more efficient- less voltage drop.
I think I normally get slightly more run time on mine - however - I dont use them with the 50ft cable. I have a 2ft cable since I can put it right next to the Mini. I wonder how much loss you are getting do to the long'ish cable. Worth a test maybe?
I would guess it’s slightly less efficient at 16 feet vs 2 feet. It was about 86 degrees out, maybe the sun and heat had something to do with runtime as well. I normally run it on a 3 ft cable but wanted to try out the Starlink product.
For the price of one of these Anker power bricks, I would rather buy an inexpensive LiFePO4 12volt battery and a generic barrel plug cable and run the Starlink for a day or 2 assuming this is for a home backup.
This is a follow up to my Starlink Emergency Kit video where portability is the key. I’m aware larger less expensive batteries exist. But the point here is you can throw this in a backpack and get on an airplane with it. Or go hiking. Things like that. This entire setup is like 4 lbs.
Good evening, my location keeps showing "service not available" while installing.. How do i go about it?
What country are you in? It might not be available to activate in your country yet.
@StarlinkHardware nigeria
can i do this with my standard actuated
Not with USB-C. But you can use the larger power stations that have inverters built-in. Or you can convert the Gen 2 to run from DC power: th-cam.com/video/67jolgTfaLU/w-d-xo.html
@@StarlinkHardware thanks watching it now
Why is that the power bank is not on the table? No need to put under the dish.
The USB-C cable is only about 16 feet long, wouldn't reach the table. I put it under the dish to get it out of the direct sunlight. It was hot the day of testing with no clouds.
Why would you run a 40' power cable from the dish all the way back to the table ?? He just put a short power cable on it, and kept all the equipment together.
Sorry, but if the point of this setup is for emergency use, you’re not going to be passively consuming videos. You’ll be communicating, which means far more transmitting of packets. I’d love to see a test where you’re in a zoom conference, or FaceTiming people instead to see what kind of wattage bidirectional traffic consumes.
Speaking of videos everyone just had a flashback to Billy Madison after reading that. Voice uses way less data than video my dude. I am pretty sure your tow truck driver is not hot enough to FaceTime
Cool but way overpriced!
Downloading update and in sun is NOT a fair test
Downloading doesn't use any more power than it just sitting there in my experience. And in the sun, maybe, but it's under the dish in the shade. And being in the sun is a real world variable that most people will have to deal with.
1. Should have simply installed updates first. Not an insane thing to do to remove that ambiguity.
2. what maniac is leaving their power bank in the sun…sounds like a great way to start a fire 😂. The second test also has pretty different thermal differences as it was quite shaded. 3. The videos are also probably cached if they replayed. All of these things is probably why the second bank probably got better than 38%.
Nonetheless, appreciate you doing this. Helps give a good ballpark for understanding.