Analysis of the Source Family and Jim Baker (Father Yod) | Dangers of Cult Leader Hang Gliding
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- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of the Source Family and “Father Yod” (Jim Baker)?
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There was a cult (didn't know it at the time) in South Korea offering Korean lessons. I went to a few, and they tried to get me to join their "Peace Day Festival". I declined that but wanted to keep studying with them. They stopped answering my calls and messages. I was ghosted by a cult. I'm rather proud of that.
🤣🤣🤣 funny
This reminds me of a Seinfeld episode where George gets mad because a cult doesn’t want to recruit him 😂
Smart thinking, indeed! 😸
And you should be proud. Too many go for these things, looking for peace and !ove. Then discover it is more about shysters separating them from their cash.
At first I imagined they were lessons on being Korean, not just the language.
There are so many of us who greatly appreciate your videos, Doctor Grande. You're rapidly approaching 1 million subscribers. I am proud of you. ☺ 👍
I'm assuming irony or sarcasm? Never know the difference! These videos are as far from brainwashing as you can get! Besides those are shirts not robes!
We are so lucky 🍀 to have a daily dose of Dr. Grande in this crazy world!
@hauberrisser You could post your counterweight standpoint on your own channel.
@hauberrisser Nobody is obligated to let you use their channel as your platform, Karen.
@hauberrisser I used to teach English. As far as I can ascertain your writing is what we call incoherent gibberish.
I'm laughing hysterically; the crap expose continues!!! The ear, nose, and throat doctor joke had me rolling on the floor. Love you, Dr. Grande.😂🤣❤️
Nothing good comes from religious organizations that have “family” in their names.
same goes for the workplace
@@quester09 You have that right!
Or even political parties for that matter. It's a word that seems to elicit a kind of preordained single minded ideology, as if to say, 'we're a family because we all indulge in X beliefs and Y rituals and behaviours.' A family is so much closer than just an ordinary club or association. In politics the 'family' moniker is more often a dog whistle towards the actual 'normal' family, that is, the parents and children kind, but it also implies traditional (conservative) and religious connotations.
@@skepticusmaximus184 hence a modern political movement against basic science and medical procedure like vaccinations and at the same time are willing to impose theocratic law over a nations populace.
@Liam Quinn you felt alluded...
I’m surprised he only had 3 children with 14 wives.
Maybe he was gay and all the wives were a front
Wow! The name "Jim Baker", when applied to religious studies, seems to have created at least two spiritual crooks!
If Jim Baker had chosen to be a hair model, he would have been much more successful. Your thumbnail of Jim Orson Baker is perfect.
Wigs & hair pieces.
@@stephenpmurphy591 w yy says r
@@stephenpmurphy591 Just think of all the money he could have made with shampoo commercials. He could have afforded hang gliding lessons!
Really big hair makes the chairisma
He looked like moses
“They approached many record labels and were rejected every time… because they were horrible.” 💀💀💀
😂signing wasn't there thing
But they were allowed to play at local high schools?
Just like Manson.
@@scottricci5063 The Beach Boys recorded a Manson song.
@@martyal As this was in the 60's, perhaps the local high schools still implemented this notion of "spare the rod, spoil the child"? Or maybe it was ment to act as a general cult deterrence? =)
Good morning, Dr. Grande:) This is the most bizarre case I've ever heard. thanks again for a brilliant and fascinating case analysis. Nice shirt!:)
I agree; nice shirt!!!😁
If you like bizarre, look up the Herman Rockerfella murder case, in Australia.
Documentary is pretty amazing
@@gwendolynsinclair I always wanted Dr Grande to do a story on his murder.
@@pepelemoko01 Thanks, I will check it out.
I am quite happy following a cult led by a psychologist in snappy shirts. Without his daily video I too would feel lost and alone.
spot on! Psychiatry is another "cult"
I don't think you understand the meaning of a cult.
You are such a privilege to learn from
About many things including mental health.
I even enjoy the narrative of Which I slightly disagree with .. but no doubt The George Carlin admiration is one of those other many things I agree with you upon.
Congratulations on the well earned reach 💚
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@@robertafierro5592 and she runs with scissors 🏃🏽♀️ ✂️
This is the most hilarious cult I have ever heard of. I laughed throughout this video and am now watching it again.
No the most hilarious was Love Has Won, but this is right behind it.
@@Hollylivengood Is there a video on that you'd recommend?
@@Hollylivengood Weren't they an offshoot of that cult, that was run by a Buddhist hotdog vendor, 'Make Me One With Everything'?
@@skepticusmaximus184 Wow, there's a bunch but I think the best one was on the channel Ask A Mortician and it was called "Is it Legal to Mummify your Cult Leader". It was well researched, and has a lot of the cults own videos. Pretty wild.
@@skepticusmaximus184 Oh man. Now I have to look that one up, just because.
There are some extremely manipulative human beings on this planet and there never seems to be a shortage of people who are manipulated. By the way, for the people who came and went through the cult, did they get their possessions and/or money back when they left? I'm guessing they didn't.
Oh wow, as awful as it is to say, I can't think of a reason why they would get back their possessions. When you give something to a person, there's no reason they have to give it back, even if they die.
@@toweypat I mean when they decided it was a fraud. It seems like at least some of them would try to fight to get their stuff back. They probably wouldn't be successful though.
Study MBTI or Socionics....ENxx types makes cultures....and the XSxx and INFPs enjoy the cultures they create...
I think it was worth giving up all their possessions to see Father Yod plummet to the Earth in what would have to be one of history's Funniest Deaths.
It was a fine example of pain being "transmuted" into laughter. And it is still paying off to this day!
A cult that asks followers to bring their possessions with them & then give them to the cult isn't keeping them.... you usually see the cult leaders cherry-picking what they like (jewellery, electronics, etc), they might redistribute things like clothes among the followers, and they sell the rest. That's how the cult makes money - you'll often find that followers will sign over deeds to a house or property that becomes the cult's "church" or "sanctuary." Your possessions become the cult's possessions & they can do whatever they like with them. That's part of the control that the cult leader holds over their followers... knowing that if you leave the cult you literally have _nothing_ because you handed it all over. They scam their followers - pure & simple.
Can’t stop laughing…”cult leader removal strategy…” is just one reason.
Yeah! That one was especially great!
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Interesting vid. Enjoyed the robust critique of the music: 'horrible'.
He tells us what he REALLY thinks!🙉
Oh my, repressed memories just surfaced yesterday of a time before Dr. G made videos. I don't want to say it went bad but I'm in hospice watching this video. Thanks for the all the content Dr. G.
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🌱🌏💚 KiaOra (Hello) from New Zealand
Love and Light!
Time passed with Dr. Grande is time well spent!😻
Very sorry to hear that Kenneth.... keep fighting and i'm sending prayers 🙏🙏🙏
You slay me Dr Grande. Your dry sense of humor is spot on.
He’s great! I am wondering if Dr. Grande has thought about stand up comedy if he should ever get burned out from analyzing some of these peoples behaviors? Lol 🤔❤🇺🇸
Love his sense of humor
And it wouldn’t be as funny coming from anyone else! 😂😂😂
I remember this story so well. He had a picture of Gondi or something at the restaurant and someone said I'm waiting for the day you replace that with your picture and he was like oh I could never do that... then the next time they came back he did just that
Ghandi?? Or someone I haven't heard of??🇬🇧
@@ktcooki276 iñ 7uu
You also misspelled his name, it's Gandhi. ;)
As a terrible speller this thread made me feel a little better!
One day it was Gandhi and the next day Gonedi. 🙃
Loving the shirt, Dr. Grande! Also, thank you for another great analysis. Have a great weekend!
"He promoted himself to....God."
"One" of the things I love most about your content is how unpredictable it is!
Thank you so much for sharing yourself with all of us! ♡♡
Also, that shirt looks amazing on you!
Untrained hang-gliding by cult leaders should be encouraged.
It's a solid plan! 😅😅😅😅
I still have my dad's "Come to Hawaii and Start a Cult!" poster. They gave them away for free at the Rolls dealership he hung around.
Rolls Royce have always played it smart. You can't just rely on the sparse loony cult leader market. You have to diversify into areas like the illuminati and greedy televangelist markets too. They made it through the depression and the crash of 2008, now they're gunning for a covid-19 surge, with lucrative wins in the youtube conspiracy theorists sector. 😉
Excellent use of example markets!
@@bthomson it's not easy making luxury automobiles when you have to consider not only what public leaders in the antivax movement want, but also bible thumping evangelists and lizard brained overloards of the finance industry. Of course we mustn't forget the greasy slimy artisans and partisans of the political establishment. They'll want Rolls Royce's for official motorcades and personal transport. Home James!
Wait was that really a thing??? Like an actual slogan?
Dr G, this is a lovely treat on a Saturday morning! Just imagine: he could have used his flame 🔥 throwing ears to heat a large air balloon. 😉
Yeah! That might have saved the crematorium fees too. 😜
Your analysis was indeed more intriguing than lightning ears, but what an age to live in where there exists the opportunity to use lightning ear emojis!!👂🏼⚡️
Emojis rule!
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Lol 😂
These spiritual leaders always have a financial bottom line..💰
... and/or a sexual one.
Of course!😀
Ya think!
@B Thomson obviously I know..😀..but people are STILL falling for that shtick!
I’m way too lazy to be in a cult. Jeez. They’re always so industrious. Growing things, running a restaurant, following rules. Much more relaxing to just think for yourself
Agreed. They don’t seem to have any cults where you just get to sit around and eat brunch…..
I'd go further and say there will always be conmen called "Jim Baker" around, even if they spell it differently
I love how much you’re posting. This is my favorite channel
Thank you so much, Dr Grande. Such a sad situation. What kind of desperation drives people to hitch their star to someone like him? Maybe you could speak with us on this. I have a cousin who got caught up in one of these cults. She was there for many years and had 2 children there. Eventually she left. Thank goodness!
Could Dr Grande be a cult leader ?...we all seem to eagerly await his words of wisdom everyday, I think we need to check how many wives he really has just to be on the safe side.
I agree!!!😂
Yes!
Well! That worked well!
Yeah. Why don't more cult leaders try to attract followers through TH-cam? Or maybe they do and I just haven't come across those videos.
I met Yogi Bhajan in Toronto decades ago. I've never had such an impression of evil from anyone as from him. He made clicking sounds in his throat like a snake; I got away from him as quickly as possible; a few musician friends had a few yoga sessions with him, but didn't persist. Evil shit.
Your presentation is always enjoyable. My sympathy to the victims of men like this.
Your videos are gold, at a time when truth & well-reasoned discourse have become scarce. Love to escape from the noise & sit down to another of your quiet tellings & analyses, not to mention the tongue-in-cheek asides. Also wholly appreciate the absence of music & special effects, allowing your straight-story delivery to shine. Thank you!
I love all of your shirts but this one is especially great. Does your wife pick them out? Thanks again for the video.
Notice his ONE wife!
@@bthomson lololol
Never heard of this group, but when you've seen one cult, you've seen them all.
In the '70's i had both Moonies & Hare Krishnas try and tell me they each had what i was missing in my life. Then a decade later "white" Sikhs said they too had The-Answer, altho' this last group always seemed to me to be just Hippies-with-Turbans, ha-ha!
Luckily, at age 16 i had been enlightened/"vaccinated" against cults, having read a wonderful book called "The True Believer" by Eric Hoffer, which explained to my then young and gullible self about brain-washing & so-called gurus fishing for converts when all they really wanted was to take advantage of them in every possible way.
Dr. G, some of us want to know if you have any Hawaiian-Shirts in your closet?
It's wonderful to have grown up in an age where a 16 year old would actually read a book... *voluntarily.*
@hauberrisser A curious but sceptical attitude can always be helpful. 😉👍
All that's still going strong, go to a nearby eco-camp, follower(s) is a way of life (between out and in therapy ofcourse). Most "camp leaders" seem to be some sort of former therapists. How come?
Z8Q8 - Going back to the REALLY important question does Dr. Grande have Hawaiian shirts? The answer is yes! He wore one for one of his celebratory videos and at least one other. 🌴🏝
Ooo! I loved Twin Peaks!
"Not discouraged by lack of talent." That has to explain why all the really bad music "entertainers" are around!
Well, herb is sacred. As a matter of fact I feel the call to prayer right now!
DAT SHIIIIIRT!!! lol love it
Looking sharp today Dr Grande!
Damn I love that shirt!!
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My poor sweet dog was sick all night and I was up with her, and listening to these videos and Bella grande media videos really helped me be okay with being awake for so long. Thank you!
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I sure hope your dog is felling better.
@@CentsibleLivingWithMoneyMom thank you, I think she is headed in the right direction after a visit to an urgent vet! So hard to see our furry kids sick....
@@bthomson thank you! She is feeling a little better so far this evening.
You're the true original gangster
I don't understand how some people can be SOOO gullible 🙄..... If they gave ALL their money to Jim how were they able to buy what they needed🤔..... I really don't get it, I've heard of a case similar to this one I believe it was the WACO case....
Sky Saxon of The Seeds was involved with The Source, helping them record music. Pretty good it was too.
Is "The Psychology of Notorious Serial Killers: The Intersection of Personality Theory and the Darkest Minds of Our Time (Notorious Series, 1)" part of a series? I'm about to order it to hold me over till Harm Reduction:) one part of the order page said 1 of 1.
My good friend Libra is the " baby taken to the hospital with a staph infection". She is healthy and happy and has no involvement with the source.
I remember showing this to some ladies who follow a local guy named Quinn Eaker who runs the Garden of Eden in Tx. At the time The Source Family was on Netflix I showed this to them to see if it would make them think about how they were living etc My friend left but the other ladies I believe remain.
Good on you!
Informative case analysis dr. Grande. It's amazing how one individual can influence and change people's mind set.
On another note, I was wondering if you could produce an analysis on the 1000 lb sisters Tammy and Amy Slaton?
🌷🌷🌷Love the shirt Dr. Grande! Now to listen to the content 😊
Oh my gosh, that's the restaurant in "Annie Hall" where Woody Allen says, "Yes, I'll have a plate of mashed yeast "...?
LOL, I love this.
So that's where the mashed yeast came from!
If only Jim would have started the hang gliding hobby years earlier.
He was getting depressed at the whole failure of his operation. Having given up sex and useless religious teachings, he was sunk, and basically went for a flight knowing and asking for it all to end. When they got down to the beach, and he was in a crumpled ball, it's been documented, he was at rest knowing his whole facade was coming to an end. Then it did.
I absolutely love Dr Grande's shirt today 🌼🌼🌼🌵
@Jeff C I absolutely love the word "absolutely" 😘
@Jeff C As a matter of fact, I fu*kin hate that word, but somehow I can't stop myself using it in almost every comment. And belive me, it's abs... no! its terribly painful 😓 some kind of fu*cking compulsion. I just can't stop, and it is not sarcasm. There must be something seriously wrong with me.
@Jeff C Nevertheless, I still think that shirt is just banging!
@Jeff C Oh, thank you! That is absolutely nice of you 😁😅
You are also cool! Not many people would get both, the joke and this slightly more serious part 😎😄
I was wondering if you could analyze the case of Brianna Maitland. She disappeared in 2004. Her car was later found backed into an abandoned barn and her uncashed paychecks were in the car. No sightings or traces of her have been found since.
Sounds like a great place to party in the early 70's!
Also, sounds like a bunch of folks with big egos found a fella with a bigger ego! 👺😜 🚬
As always Erik's comment was worth waiting for!
@@bthomson
Hi Mrs. T!
Happy Saterday! 🙂🌻
Same back at ya!
Cult leaders are so morbidly fascinating. They often have so much in common, no matter how different they were before forming their cult - down to the most petty level. Although forming a band and going hang gliding is a particularly interesting feature of Father Yod.
The band was made of actual musicians, but Father Yod would bust in, off beat with out of tune singing. Just RUINED it, but they made him front man. Hawhawhaw
Used to eat at the family restaurant back in the day. The food was excellent. The atmosphere was interesting and not threatening. Everyone there wore white and looked very healthy. That was pre-Father Yod times.
Oh good heavens. I just watched a documentary on this. I grew up in that age, so I do get it, that people wanted whatever we thought we wanted, peace, love, but even at 14 years old I would have been able to see through this creep. ‘He looked at me, and said, I’m your father, and he was” 🙄 Even Robin his who knows if it was legal since he deserted his two other wives and children, wife, called him a “dirty old man on a lust trip”. Which was spot on. She still stayed for some reason. It ALWAYS boiled down to that. Prove me different! I defy you. Show me one where “father” Yahweh whatever they called themselves, DIDN’T have a bunch of nubile young, Very young, women that they were banging. And controlling who COULD have sex with whom. 🙈That’s how it ALWAYS ends up. Seen it personally, those guys, well what 20 year old guy wouldn’t to have unending sex, women all so happy, pregnant, having “Father” tell them who to be with. He admitted it (just) before his death that he WASN’T GOD? Hella how so many people were damn stupid back then. And now, I guess Yes, you, “Aquarians”. “We’re not the Mansons”, but it would have been so easy to do that, eh? Especially with your guns? I’ll bet you would have if have if he told you to.
Well now I want a Rolls Royce with a license plate that reads “CULTLDR”.
First💕🇺🇲🇺🇲 I've never been.
I remember the Yogi.
I don't understand people who follow these people. Jim Jones, David Kurash (sp)
Cults or church's some people can't think for themselves.
Everyone has a social crutch.
Always interesting. Outstanding humor.
Peace 💕🇺🇲
@Jo Jo
Agree💕🇺🇲
"...more interesting than lightning ears."
Haha
Most definitely thank you
Impromptu hand glider related cult leader removal strategy...
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Please do an analysis on Seito Sakakibara please. You'll have a field day on that one.
Oh, yes! He's a real nut job! Youths killing younger kids, how despicable and pathetic. Seito's case reminds me of those 2 revolting boys who tortured and murdered little toddler James Bulger, in 1993 in England -- Jon Venables and Robert Thompson. Their identities were protected, as if THEY were the victims. The public would have torn them limb from limb if they'd been able to! And now they're out of prison, as if that poor little innocent baby's life was worth nothing😡
That tesla charging joke prompted me to come up with a follow-up: gives a whole new meaning to butt-plug
"Not discouraged by their lack of talent" I'm screaming 🤣🤣🤣
Hi Dr. Grande- - can you analyze the character of Rasputin, the "mad Russian monk"?
Could you look into Sean Feucht if the time allows, please? He's quite a concerning figure lately.
Nice polite way to ask! Love it!
The people who continued to follow him after his death remind me the NXIVM followers who danced outside of the the jail where Keith Raniere was being held. The human mind is fascinating.
I kind of admired this guy up until the point where he jumped off the cliff.
Wonder if this dude was inspired by Eden Ahbez, an LA raw-foods proto-hippy who wrote the pop standard "Nature Boy" and who in turn was inspired by Germans in the LA area who followed the 19th C. German "Wandering Bird" anti-industrial philosophy until they were banned by the Nazis
And he even used the mock-expression "Ave Cesar, noritamus.." before he went. Could not make this up.
Even his Latin was horrible. He should have said, "Ave Caesar, moriturus te saluto" (since he was the only one who died).
Again I say Dr. Grande's fans are the summa cum laude!
I watch these every single day after work. Always a highlight of my afternoon to sit down and remember you probably posted 😄
"Probably?"
"He gave himself a promotion" . Hahahaha!
Dr grande, I’ve been a fan of your channel for a while. I appreciate the way you combine humor with educational insights . It would be be interesting to hear an analysis of the interview between Joe Rogan and Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Thank you for the great channel.
Your dry wit is always the best and you are in top form today! I'm howling over here😄 love the analysis as always (and the crying PTL man photo was perfection) 🙌👏💙🌞💙
Ok so who's really to join the Dr. G cult of The dead pan humor God?
I will!!! That's about the only cult I'd join.
What is with dudes named Jim Baker?!?
He recited a phrase in Latin, which in English, translates to, "Hold my beer!"
😂🤣 yes, it does!!!
Hey dr Grande! Would be interesting to see your analyses of the Divine Light Mission, a religious movement/cult with Indian roots that was very big in the United States during the 70's.
Let's go, Brandon!
Let's go Brandon -
Let's go!!!!
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Hair sniffers unite
BRANDON !
I just found out that if this comment is for real ( and not sarcastic) that I like it very much!
Dr. Grande do you think you could make a video on what's happening with the MMA fighter Jon Jones. Dude seems to be narcissistic sociopath with no remorse (obviously that's not for me to diagnose), but dude definitely has some serious mental issues and I think he could end up killing someone if he doesn't get help. He also is consider by most MMA fans to be one of if not the greatest MMA fighter of all time which makes him extra dangerous. I'd be interested to hear your take on his story because most fans seem to be sick of his shit.
Mystical Corner 🔮
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There is no great and no small to the Soul that maketh all:
And when it cometh, all things are;
And it cometh everywhere.
I AM owner of the sphere,
Of the seven stars and the solar year,
Of Caesar's hand, and Plato's brain,
Of Lord Christ's heart, and Shakespeare's strain.
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Ralph Waldo Emerson, 1803~1882
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A mystic knows that we are one and teaches without any attatchment to an identity.
There is no power seeking on the part of an authentic Spritual teacher.
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Yay! I asked for this 🤗😊💕
Nice pic you chose of Jim Bakker there, Dr Grande, lmao 🤣 I'm sick at home recovering (I think) from covid a laugh was needed
May health visit you soon!
Man, I was going to say, Jim Bakker REALLY changed in the past year or so. Selling end-time food buckets must not be so good. Different Jim lol
He's still on TV going strong!! No Tammy, though
The first young picture of him looked just like a photo of my young grandpa who also served in WW2 and was born within a couple weeks of him the same exact year. (1922)
Hey Doc. Online yesterday I saw news of the passing of anti vaxxer Rob Skiba who had a TH-cam channel. Hope you can do a vid about him, possibly? (I never heard of him until his passing. So naturally I'm curious)
Edit:Anti vaxxer/Flat Earth theorist
I know the director of this film, I wish she had told the whole story…
"THEIR MUSIC WAS HORRIBLE" 💀💀💀
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I did a lot of research on The Source Family before watching this video. Todd provides an excellent summary overview, with all the relevant facts and perspective. Well done, Todd!
It is humorous to me to see such analysis of crazy. This perception we agree to be "reality," is not "nothing but," but is not so much more than a thought experiment ongoing amidst a sea of background programs and alternate simulation parameters and variables. The math of our cosmos supports this. The physics and the breaking of physical laws support this as well. We think we know so much, yet we are but ignorant children, playing in an infinite sandbox. I sound just like one of these cult leaders. Difference here is I have nothing to gain by saying this. And don't follow me. Im nobody.
A morning Dr. Grande video, perfect 🌞!
Another hippy, drippy, dirty, narcissistic, spiritual fraud. Great way to start my Sat😏👳♂️Lovely shirt yes. Thanks Dr G😊💙💙
Carbonnation (Instagram era cult) also moved to Hawaii (either before or after Puerto Rico).
The leader had such an ego he thought he'd be an exception.
Nice Shirt Dr.G!
I kinda respect the consistentcy in that he refused medical treatment and lay dying for 9 hours and died. Most people would change their mind
Doctor G., I've heard of men described as "lightning", in the past, but never in a good way, nor, is it related to their ears;)
Would you please do a video on Monica Lewinsky and President Clinton and the current FX video on his impeachment please
Hawaii and the American Paradise 🏜 🏝
Like all native peoples of the Americas, the native people of Hawaii have marginalised into a 'string bead making folksy people'.
Hawaii is a version of the American Paradise.
"You are not welcome 🚫⛔'
Thanks for covering this. I learned about it from the documentary called The Source Family.
Or could we do an analysis of Ricky Rodriguez from ‘children of god’ cult?
"He didn't think it through....he just took pieces of other religious and put them together"
Literally every religion.
Never heard of him. Probably because he only killed himself. Manson was a lot more sexier to the media.