@@LBCRPhotography thank you Levi, hope to have one ready for you as soon as I make more of them ❤️ the implementation of the modular back needs still some work but we'll get there :)
Than you, well I come from being a pinhole maker to now making large format cameras so I'm used to niches:) My only wish is to make something that will be a pleasure to use and yield excellent results for the user. Thank you for the positive feedback!
Once I don't see a reason why a 6x17 module would be out of the question. As always I keep list of suggestions from people like you and if they seem viable to produce I slowly expand my product range. So thank you for the suggestion
I had some inquieries for a dedicated 5x7 camera so far as well as a module to fit the 4x5 but that would need some more front components which I don't think would work so well. I have a 8x10 in the works with the same concept so a camera in between the two shouldn't be a problem.
@@paulgough4302 this is very easily achievable with the modular aspect of the camera, and I plan on introducing cameras with separate rear movements as well down the line.
Great job with the video; i have their 8x10, 4x5, an 6x12 multi pinholes and the quality of the craftsmanship is amazing. Absolutely works of art. I'm really thinking hard about this one. Thank you again
Hi Davd, tank you for being my supporter over the years, I'm always so happy when people like you come back and order more of my work. And after that take the time to comment that you appreciate the effort that goes into creating these cameras. It means so much to me, as you probably know ONDU is mostly run by one guy, with the exception when I have the camera production months of the year.
It looks awesome!! Really looking forward for the 8x10 model and all the wet plates equipment 😊. It would be interesting if you could also create film holders with the 8x10 camera 😅. Thank you very much for helping LF photography grow and for constructing so beautiful cameras!!
Thank you for the kind words, I'll do my best to get it all out in a timely manner. As for holders and so on, there will definetly be plate holders available, as for film I haven't yet tried to make that in te 8x10 format but I suppose with 3d printing it would be doable by all means. Thanks again!
I shoot with a Chamonix 45F2, lens selection will depend on what you plan to shoot, the most common or most practical lens for a 4x5 beginner will be a 150mm lens, it is the equivalent of a 50mm in the 35mm format, the lens gets mounted to a board and the board to your camera body via just 4 hinges, super simple and easy.
Eseentially what @marklinman1 said in the coment bellow. I use a 180mm lens most often on my shoots. But also reach for a 90 here and ther as well as a 240 for instance. Best choice would be to start with a not so wide or telephoto one and start to get a feel for what you like.
Thank you for the kind words, but I do have to point out that there are some 3d printed components. Although I am looking into minimizing those as well down the line when we start producing the cameras. But the gist of it is still handmade.
Nicely done video. I’m sure it will be a nice camera, but $700 is much too steep for my budget. I would have backed the project if it was about half that amount. Good luck to you!
Thank you for the kind words and comment. Unfortunately it wouldn't be financially feasible to sell it at that price point, similar quality cameras liked this go for 1500 USD and these are Chinese made. I make everything in our workshop in Slovenia and manufacture components in the same valley, anaodizing is done in the same place etc. Just to explain a bit the reasoning behind the pricing.
@@mikechen121 sorry didn't mean to be disrespectful and say they are inferior quality they are actually made very good. I was just highlighting the fact that they are made there where wages are much lower on average than in the EU and labor parts and everything else is cheaper obviously, but still the price is much higher. I am a proponent of locally made products with smaller companies which I run as well. If I outsourced the Eikan Camera to China I'm sure we could get the same quality for less money but that's not where my morals stand. As for ONDU quality the past 10 years of our work speaks itself and numerous reviews and accounts of my work attest to that.
While $700 dollars isn’t cheap, in the world of hand-built view cameras it’s an absolute steal. Even the cheapest analagous camera would be the Shen Hao at 1600dollars. I’m pretty certain you’ll never again find a NEW hand-made, custom designed camera again at $700. While I’m sure it’s not your intention, suggesting that it should be half that price is a little demeaning.
They are being produced as we speak, expected availability for non Kickstarter backers in Late March. We first need to fulfill duties for our Kickstarter backers :) After that they should be generosly stocked going forward. Also there's a short update on TH-cam if you go to the Chanel and look for the latest video. Thank you for taking the time to comment and your interest in my work.
Was there a specific reason why you went with a 4x10 back instead of a 6x17? I feel like a 6x17 would be more appealing and easier to get into than 4x10 with films being very limited and film backs being very expensive.
Hi the 4x10 back was suggested when I was doing surveys mostly by wet plate photographers. I know 4*10 film is rare and usually Ilford makes it available once per year when they make custom orders, some photographers make their own by cutting a 8*10 sheet I half etc. But hearing from you and likely minded people I should think about the 6*17 version as well. It's completely doable thanks to the modular back of the camera. Another options are 4x5 backs with the 6x17 roll film holders. To be honest I haven't tried that yet, since I Also make 6x17 pinhole cameras shoot that when I get the itch. :)
@@ONDUCameras I do have a 4x5 with the 6x17 roll film back but it pushes the plane back and because of this you have limited lenses you're able to use as vignetting starts to become an issue. I imagine this wouldn't be a problem with your kit if it had a dedicated 6x17 back. I would be very interested if this was an option. Thanks again.
@@ONDUCameras i've had a shen hao 4x5 plus roll film back for years, i get by but would prefer their dedicated 6x17 for reasons mentioned, i'm in no rush and will see where you go
great video, wow, the looks certainly rival the Ebony and shen-hao cameras, but a tip, PARAGLIDERS and POWERLINES DON'T mix!!, you can electrocute yourself!!
Thank you for the kind comment about my work. As for the paragliding spot, it just looks like the lines are close, they are in fact going slightly in the opposite direction then the trajectory of the launch. It's one of the most commonly visited launch sites in that area and so far nobody got in the lines. We even sometimes top land when conditions permit it :) ( although I agree it would be better to have a site without any, but so far no alternative exist, the higher spots also have a ski slope with cable cars crossing the take off )
@@samameen6941 shipping latest pre orders in about 2-4 weeks depending on parts finalization. Please check my Instagram ondu cameras for more frequent updated
The Eikan is a slightly more comprehensive and custom build so I think we can co-exist in a way. Teir cameras are entry level cameras, non modular etc. But I appreciate the comment:)
The modular back is next level! Never thought we’d see such a high quality 4x5 built in modern times!
@@LBCRPhotography thank you Levi, hope to have one ready for you as soon as I make more of them ❤️ the implementation of the modular back needs still some work but we'll get there :)
It’s great to see more companies in this niche community. Looks like a good camera. Good luck!
Than you, well I come from being a pinhole maker to now making large format cameras so I'm used to niches:) My only wish is to make something that will be a pleasure to use and yield excellent results for the user. Thank you for the positive feedback!
@@ONDUCameras Well I hope one day you think about building a 6x17. 4x10 is very cool too. I do love a panoramic camera.
Looks fantastic. Appreciate the modularity of it. Would love a 6x17 view setup with all the movements.
Once I don't see a reason why a 6x17 module would be out of the question. As always I keep list of suggestions from people like you and if they seem viable to produce I slowly expand my product range. So thank you for the suggestion
the most difficult part will be design and manufacture the filmholder. Shen Hao is producing them for their own 6x17 but they are about 900€ each…
Looks interesting, I might be interested if you decide to make a 5x7 model, a light, full movement, quality camera would be a welcome addition.
I had some inquieries for a dedicated 5x7 camera so far as well as a module to fit the 4x5 but that would need some more front components which I don't think would work so well. I have a 8x10 in the works with the same concept so a camera in between the two shouldn't be a problem.
@@ONDUCameras In my opinion a 5x7 or 10x8 needs to have rear swing otherwise it is limited in the same way as the Intrepid.
@@paulgough4302 this is very easily achievable with the modular aspect of the camera, and I plan on introducing cameras with separate rear movements as well down the line.
Great job with the video; i have their 8x10, 4x5, an 6x12 multi pinholes and the quality of the craftsmanship is amazing. Absolutely works of art. I'm really thinking hard about this one. Thank you again
Hi Davd, tank you for being my supporter over the years, I'm always so happy when people like you come back and order more of my work. And after that take the time to comment that you appreciate the effort that goes into creating these cameras. It means so much to me, as you probably know ONDU is mostly run by one guy, with the exception when I have the camera production months of the year.
It looks awesome!! Really looking forward for the 8x10 model and all the wet plates equipment 😊. It would be interesting if you could also create film holders with the 8x10 camera 😅. Thank you very much for helping LF photography grow and for constructing so beautiful cameras!!
Thank you for the kind words, I'll do my best to get it all out in a timely manner. As for holders and so on, there will definetly be plate holders available, as for film I haven't yet tried to make that in te 8x10 format but I suppose with 3d printing it would be doable by all means. Thanks again!
A native 6x17 camera would be awesome.
Might happen in the future, as it seems it's something that's quite in interest. Thank you for the suggestion.
Amazing video and beautiful camera! Congrats! :)
Thank you Tereza!
Do you have 6x12 adapter??
@@analogjadoel3694 any graflock 6*12 hodler will work. But I'm planning on making my own variety for the Eikan just not so very soon.
I'm looking into getting my first large format camera and I think this could be a great option - I'm curious how the lens selection works?
I shoot with a Chamonix 45F2, lens selection will depend on what you plan to shoot, the most common or most practical lens for a 4x5 beginner will be a 150mm lens, it is the equivalent of a 50mm in the 35mm format, the lens gets mounted to a board and the board to your camera body via just 4 hinges, super simple and easy.
Eseentially what @marklinman1 said in the coment bellow. I use a 180mm lens most often on my shoots. But also reach for a 90 here and ther as well as a 240 for instance. Best choice would be to start with a not so wide or telephoto one and start to get a feel for what you like.
Looks beautiful, awesome features, no 3D printing. If it’s as affordable as your other cameras, I’ll buy one for sure.
Thank you for the kind words, but I do have to point out that there are some 3d printed components. Although I am looking into minimizing those as well down the line when we start producing the cameras. But the gist of it is still handmade.
it's cool, how u make u bellows so soft?))
It's a bellows with attachments ,a format I would like to try one day .
Indeed the bellows are easily interchangeable :)
Nicely done video. I’m sure it will be a nice camera, but $700 is much too steep for my budget. I would have backed the project if it was about half that amount. Good luck to you!
Thank you for the kind words and comment. Unfortunately it wouldn't be financially feasible to sell it at that price point, similar quality cameras liked this go for 1500 USD and these are Chinese made. I make everything in our workshop in Slovenia and manufacture components in the same valley, anaodizing is done in the same place etc. Just to explain a bit the reasoning behind the pricing.
@@ONDUCamerasSuggesting Chinese-made for inferior quality is uncalled for. Just like there's no proof for Slovenian products to be more worthy.
@@mikechen121 sorry didn't mean to be disrespectful and say they are inferior quality they are actually made very good. I was just highlighting the fact that they are made there where wages are much lower on average than in the EU and labor parts and everything else is cheaper obviously, but still the price is much higher. I am a proponent of locally made products with smaller companies which I run as well. If I outsourced the Eikan Camera to China I'm sure we could get the same quality for less money but that's not where my morals stand. As for ONDU quality the past 10 years of our work speaks itself and numerous reviews and accounts of my work attest to that.
While $700 dollars isn’t cheap, in the world of hand-built view cameras it’s an absolute steal.
Even the cheapest analagous camera would be the Shen Hao at 1600dollars.
I’m pretty certain you’ll never again find a NEW hand-made, custom designed camera again at $700.
While I’m sure it’s not your intention, suggesting that it should be half that price is a little demeaning.
@@mikechen121he didn't say that at all though.
What was this filmed on? It's beautiful.
@@hunterwebbfilms this was my first time shooting with the Sony fx30 and sigma trio, mostly just 30mm 1.4, + dji RS 3 gimbal for gimbal shots.
When will this camera actually be ready? Looking to buy a 4x5
They are being produced as we speak, expected availability for non Kickstarter backers in Late March. We first need to fulfill duties for our Kickstarter backers :) After that they should be generosly stocked going forward. Also there's a short update on TH-cam if you go to the Chanel and look for the latest video. Thank you for taking the time to comment and your interest in my work.
Was there a specific reason why you went with a 4x10 back instead of a 6x17? I feel like a 6x17 would be more appealing and easier to get into than 4x10 with films being very limited and film backs being very expensive.
Hi the 4x10 back was suggested when I was doing surveys mostly by wet plate photographers. I know 4*10 film is rare and usually Ilford makes it available once per year when they make custom orders, some photographers make their own by cutting a 8*10 sheet I half etc. But hearing from you and likely minded people I should think about the 6*17 version as well. It's completely doable thanks to the modular back of the camera. Another options are 4x5 backs with the 6x17 roll film holders. To be honest I haven't tried that yet, since I Also make 6x17 pinhole cameras shoot that when I get the itch. :)
@@ONDUCameras I do have a 4x5 with the 6x17 roll film back but it pushes the plane back and because of this you have limited lenses you're able to use as vignetting starts to become an issue. I imagine this wouldn't be a problem with your kit if it had a dedicated 6x17 back.
I would be very interested if this was an option. Thanks again.
@@randomgrenad346 that's a good observation and I will definitely look into it. Thank you
@@ONDUCameras i've had a shen hao 4x5 plus roll film back for years, i get by but would prefer their dedicated 6x17 for reasons mentioned, i'm in no rush and will see where you go
great video, wow, the looks certainly rival the Ebony and shen-hao cameras, but a tip, PARAGLIDERS and POWERLINES DON'T mix!!, you can electrocute yourself!!
Thank you for the kind comment about my work. As for the paragliding spot, it just looks like the lines are close, they are in fact going slightly in the opposite direction then the trajectory of the launch. It's one of the most commonly visited launch sites in that area and so far nobody got in the lines. We even sometimes top land when conditions permit it :) ( although I agree it would be better to have a site without any, but so far no alternative exist, the higher spots also have a ski slope with cable cars crossing the take off )
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I found out too late on the day that it ended.
There will be a preorder page set up by the end of the month for the late comers on my website. Thank you.
@@ONDUCameraswhen will the cameras be available. It is very beautifully handcrafted.
@@samameen6941 shipping latest pre orders in about 2-4 weeks depending on parts finalization. Please check my Instagram ondu cameras for more frequent updated
Intrepid better watch out
The Eikan is a slightly more comprehensive and custom build so I think we can co-exist in a way. Teir cameras are entry level cameras, non modular etc. But I appreciate the comment:)