Standard Class (Advance booked) ticket £36. You need to consider more than just petrol (gas), there is the wear and tear costs on your car - the more miles you do the sooner you need tyres, repairs etc. I think £36 ($47.77 USD) is good value. You don't have car parking charges in London either. The train wins hands down for me and it's more environmentally friendly too.
Comes under high speed classic. 125mph maximum speed. Why? A multitude of reasons. 1. 4-aspect visual outside signals. These can be missed above this speed. 2. Block spacing - stopping distance to the next signal. 3. Limits on catenary spacing - a bow wave on the wire could cause excess wear 4. Track curvature at their shallowest can only accept speeds up to 125mph. HST, IET and Pendolino are limited to 125mph on Britain's railways. HS1 is Britain's only true high speed line.
Oh we got huge commuter trains in the US too. LIRR runs up to 14 car single decker trains (1484 passengers all seated, a lot more if you count standing room) during peak times going into and out of Penn station and New Jersey Transit runs up to 9 car double decker trains which carry up to 1278 passengers all seated. I'm assuming that 1754 passenger capacity on the class 700 is standing room.
The Class 87 electric locomotives introduced by British Rail for the WCML electrification from Weaver Junction to Glasgow Central in 1974 could easily do 110 mph (or more!) on level track!
Progress? Don't make me laugh. When I was a teenager, back in the late 70s, I could leave my hometown of Swansea, Wales, and be in London in less than 3 hours - average speed of over 125mph, thanks to the class 43 HST. These new trains are SLOWER than trains made in the 1970s!! Millennials mock us 'Boomers' but at least WE MADE STUFF!! We are going Backwards!!
@@microlach6632 on the railways in the UK, after that disastrous privatization, there were many, many, many more deadly accidents due to management cost-cutting and putting shareholders before safety...just like Boeing Today.
@@swanvictor887 As a late boomer early gen x'er, I drove passenger trains and the slowee speeds are down to rail regulations, not the trains themselves.
Chalk that up to tighter safety regulations and just more traffic on the rails as many of the main lines are at or over capacity. The Class 390s and IETs are both capable of 140mph speeds, but no rail line outside of HS1 in the Uk permits those speeds.
City status in the UK can be associated with having a cathedral or a university, a particular form of local government, or having a large population. Although any of these might be used to justify the popular use of the term 'city', in formal terms UK city status is granted by the monarch, on the advice of ministers.14 Nov 2022
Avanti West Coast ( London Glasgow, Edinburgh) may have lovely trains but they are one of the worst train companies for delays ,late running and cancellations,they are in danger of losing the franchise if they don't improve ❤
Back in February I took Avanti between London and Crewe on one of their class 390 Pendolinos, those are the tilting trains that can operate at 125mph on the WCML, very quiet and comfortable, if a bit pricey. For us Americans, inter-city rail like this is unheard of outside of the Northeast Corridor between Boston-NYC-Washington DC. As for the cost comparison, you'd pay about the same to ride on the Amtrak Acela from NYC to Washington DC, which is also a 2 hour trip. The London to Crewe trip is also only 1hr 35min on the class 390 tilting trains which go 125mph. We also do have some dual mode diesel/electric trains in the US, though only operating out of NYC, Amtrak uses them on their services from NYC to upstate NY and Metro North uses them for services from Grand Central station to the Hudson valley and some of their services into Connecticut.
Remember that was a First Class fare. Standard would be cheaper. In my opinion First Class on trains is just not worth the extra. On a long trip say London to Edinburgh its probably cheaper and much faster to Fly.
Took one of these from Paddington to Cardiff back in May.. and returned a few days later. Admittedly, seats aren't too comfortable.. I'm 6ft 5, and there's plenty of legroom. These things go like a rocket once they leave a station. I prefer the hst 125.(nostalgic reasons). However, these aren't as bad as what people make out. Only took 1hr 40 mins on a quick service, which i was impressed with
Regarding the electrical system, generally the busiest routes between the most important towns and cities are electrified. Usually this is by means of high voltage cables above the track. But installing these cables is very expensive so many of the routes to smaller towns and cities are not electrified and trains must be powered by diesel. Many trains run on routes which are electrified for part of the way but until recently it was not possible to have a train which could be both diesel and electric powered. The route featured in the video is actually electrified for about 90% of the distance and the older trains which this train replaces had to run on diesel for the entire jorney so it’s easy to see why a train which can use both is a good idea.
If you drive in to London you'll be hit with congestion charges, clean air charges via the dystopian camera systems and IF you can find somewhere to park, you'll be paying $10 an hour to do so. Then there's the gridlocked traffic to deal with. Most people that live in London proper don't even own cars because of this.
Yup, only place in the US that is about as bad to drive in is Manhattan, which is why you also take the train into NYC f you can. LIRR and Metro North offer fast and frequent commuter service from Long Island, Westchester county and the outer boroughs into Manhattan. And then within Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx you also have the subway.
These trains have SEATS?????? 2.15 hours from Manchester to Euston …. Standing as it’s a commuter train, too. Chester is v nice …. Medieval street plan, Roman walls, lovely cathedral.
I do like the new Avanti West Coast Class 805 Bi-Mode "Evero" that Hitachi have built. Plus the Electric Class 807 "Evero" is to come into service sometime this year or early-mid next year (2025).
The trains this train replaces could tilt because the line this company operates has lots of curves tilting allows trains to run into the curves without slowing down. But tilting is more for passenger comfort than safety and it’s a bit of a technological dead end so you can’t buy a tilting train off the shelf anymore. These trains have good enough acceleration that they can do the journey in the same amount of time as the old trains without being able to tilt. What will be interesting is seeing how not tilting at 125mph feels, could be like a roller coaster!
@@KempSimon There are some engineering works going on with the WCML, mainly on the Trent valley line to allow the 805s to run at 125mph. A few sections have already been completed since the original video was made in June and the 805s can already operate at 125 in a few spots. They're basically increasing the banking of the track on certain curves.
Alstom still makes a tilting train, but only for Amtrak, the Avelia Liberty aka Acela 2.0. They may still make some Pendolino variants for the Italian market as well.
For a little bit of understanding on the tilting trains. Calss 390 pendilions introduced in the early 2000s along side Voyager and super voyager class 220 and 221s tilt due the the owner of the former franchise virgin Trains who run virgin alantic, wanted these trains to go faster etc etc with the help of the tilting hydralic system which Class 390 achices 140mph at top speed.. However the Hatchi british rail class 800/1/3/4/5/7 Does not tilt due to the Tilting featuer not being built with thr train Bi mode trains has been a thing in brtish rail for around 50 to 60 years with the form of 3rd rail electric and Ac 25kw Overhead wires. The Bi mode deasil electric is a realtivly new thing here with the introduction of the class 82 locomotive in 2012
standard class is about £36. Which isnt too bad considering to drive the 160 miles in a car that does about 30 miles to the gallon with our petrol costs would be about £30, then you have to factor in parking, congestion charge (london city charge) then general wear and tear and other costs associated with owning a car.
And factor in time. In a car you're going 70mph tops (legally anyway) on the motorway, assuming traffic is moving and you don't get stuck in a traffic jam.
These days City status is basically at the gift of the Monarch. These days that would be The King. Back in the day it used to be the place had to have a cathedral, but that is no longer the case.
@@lynnejamieson2063 - No. The only requirement for city status was to have an Anglican Cathedral. Having your own Institution of Higher Education never entered into the equation. If it did, Guildford in Surrey would be a city twice over!
You could drive but I've spent an hour before now heading into or out of London where he pointed out Wembley Stadium and the announcement for arrival was playing :) It takes a lot longer to drive anywhere in the UK than in the US because we don't have long straight roads going where you want to go. I live on the West Coast Mainline less than 2 miles from Wolverhampton station and used to take the Pendolinos and Voyagers several times a week between Wolverhampton and Birmingham and use them to head to London and back several times a year. As long as you're booking about 30 days in advance it's pretty good value and it's always a lot quicker than driving. I used to always take up the offer of first class for a pound upgrade on the return journey too. Extra legroom when I'm knackered for a quid. I'm in ;)
I visited the UK for the first time this year and I would love to have a rail system like the UK here in the US. Was able to get everywhere we wanted to go without driving. Most American cities outside of the Northeast have little to no rail service and really only NYC comes anywhere close to European levels of rail service, NYC is a city where it is much faster to take the subway or commuter trains.
Train every time for me, I'm a bit of a train geek too, even worked in a company supplying parts for trains and London Underground..1st class not really worth the money to be honest, less crowded yes, but you travel the same distance in standard coach...so doesn't make sense to me at least lol.. We are a country of train travel being normal, I live a 10 minutes from railway station, so can travel anywhere in UK and even abroad by train, relaxed, fed and watered ready for my holiday, meeting or whatever... Great video and reaction, and Tuna and sweetcorn is delicious, it's mixed with mayo, so very tasty indeed...I'm a non meat eater so one of my go to sandwiches.
Went on one of these. While it's nice to actually see out the damn windows...they are really slow on that line.. Pendolino ..usually overcrowded lucky to get a seat and no actual window. But a lot faster...
Never ever buy a train ticket on the day … buy weeks in advance and it’s 1/4 of the price sometimes. Book the seats - it’s free but jeans yu get a seat unless someone sits in it anyway. Two singles may be cheaper than a return …. Check it out.
Evero "High Speed Train"? These new Class 805 Hitachi trainsets don't tilt when negotiating tight curves and are thus limited to a maximum of 110 mph between Holyhead and London!
You won't get your car to do 30 bucks over here, for that distance. AND you'll have a circulation tax to pay as well, when you hit Central London. The best thing for you would be to come over with your Britrail ticket (for Americans) then you can go here, there, and everywhere for free.!!! And you can start right away from the airport.!!
I'll have to look into that the next time I go to the UK. I went in February and train fares certainly weren't cheap. $31 each for Heathrow Express just to Paddington, a few bucks on the tube to Euston, $120ish each for London-Crewe on Avanti in first class, $20 each for Crewe-Shrewsbury on TfW and that was just the travel day out of London. For comparison, I live in Denver and we do actually have a very nice train service to the airport and it's just a $10 flat rate at all times to/from the airport and only $3.50 for an all day ticket for any train or bus in Denver/Boulder if you're not going to the airport.
The UK trains are slower, older and travel cost more that the many other countries in Europe. I agree that they are better than the US but have suffered from years of underinvestment. The main problem is the victorian infrastructure which means that these trains struggle to reach anywhere near their top speeds. For example the InterCity 125 High Speed Train was introduced in 1976. And in 48 years there has been no point buying a faster train because the ancient infrastructure simply cannot cope. The plan was to introduce HS2 but the UK Government scrapped that as too expensive and we have not moved forwards since 1976 (except for eye watering ticket prices).
Try uk fuel prices in comparinson £1,46 per litre not glallon for car n its not actually that bad (roughly 4 Litres's to the gallon) will still say our trains more expenise but better for enirmental reasons the amount of cars that same number of people would be polution is a menal diffrnce when most train carriages can gold sat down 150 people let along standing passenegers n on a train for ineter city its gonna be about 5-6 carriages but for crosscountry maybe more like 12-15 carriges and one ever 30 mins to an hour, makes sense mate, like im currently living in ilfracome on north coast of Devon, south west england got a view from my window a epic view of wales to the slight north n if on top of hill live on can see ireland so be able to get a quick bus to nearest train station when be in mainland europe within 4 hours and for around same price of airline ticket but seeing the countryside go by and without having a check in period at an aiport thin train stuff very cool and helpful
Cargo trains are always long. It's big for a passenger train. But not the biggest one you will find passengers wise you can get 10 to 12 car unit passenger trains
@@gagada124 US freight trains can be up to 1.5 miles in length and will use 4-6 locomotives on average. No single locomotive could pull that much at once. But that huge freight train is hauling as much freight as 300-400 trucks.
1/2 mile? Hah, try 1.5 miles. US freight trains are on another level. The US rail system is VERY good at moving freight, and terrible at moving passengers.
It’s not the fastest, the older class 43 (Intercity 125) is faster running as the name suggests, 125mph. We have them running from my city (Inverness in the Scottish Highlands), and considering how old they are much more comfortable, particularly the seats. Though they announced they to be replaced as they now the same age as me (48). Though line speeds only allow 100mph at the most and only at a couple of sections throughout the Highland mainline mainly due to the geography (mountains). Also we don’t have electrified lines in Northern Scotland (though there are plans to do that) so all our trains are diesel driven
Yeah I don't think any of the remaining HSTs are operating at 125mph anymore. All the ScotRail ones are operating on track with a max speed of 100 and same goes for the few remaining ones GWR is running out in the west country, they're not running them on the main line anymore. After seeing Paddington in person I could only imagine how smoky and dirty it was in there back when the HSTs were operating there, all those old diesels just idling away in that enclosed space. And the noise since HSTs aren't exactly quiet either.
These new 800 series trains aren't as comfortable as the old Intercity 125s that they replace. The roofer is much more shaky. And, if they're running on diesel, noisier in the coaches.
If you're American, you don't pay anything - it's all free (so long as you bring with you your Britrail ticket). But don't forget it, because you can't buy it here.
I'll need to do that next time I head over. I visited in February and opted to not do a Britrail ticket, probably spent around $400 on train fares in a week for two people, ok so more than half of that was Avanti in 1st class and std premium.
@@mrvwbug4423 It's widely understood by us Brits that tourists pay everything through the nose compared to what WE pay. Just as one single example - imagine the barista at the airport or the baggage loader - they have to travel to the airport every day AND return !!! What kind of fares do you think they'll be paying ? I dont work at the airport but I can get there for one pound and 75 pence (cents) on the bus. The tube is about 3 or 4 pounds. I'm very surprised in this day and age, so few tourists make any preparations or search on-line. Even down to eating - that's yet another story - when I go out to eat, I pay less than half of what you tourists pay, and the food is good and wholesome, often dropping off the edges of the plate.!!! Accomodation - another fiasco.!! And so it goes on and on.
That's a bit of an urban legend. JR has a 5 minute buffer for a train to be considered late. And even they will leave early if the train is full. They are still the most punctual on average in the world typically arriving within 1 minute of schedule. Tokyo metro is even more punctual arriving within 30 seconds of schedule on average.
seems a huge downgrade from the old virgin trains they bought, the only improvement i see is the brail, it only saves about 20-30 minutes, but the palomino was so much better looking in first class, i use to travel between Manchester and London often and some times went first class and they would bring a meal to your table on proper plates and glasses
They are building HS2 - London to Birmingham, never needed, will never be finished - currently likely to cost £160 billion. Latvia built one of a similar length for £6 billion in four years. It’s the most wasteful project in UK history and I’ve mates working on that gravy train. More mile track was laid by Irish nsvvies with picks, shovels and dynamite on any 10 period of the 19th century than this catastrophe. Love your reactions Neal. 😎👍🏽👍☘️
We can only hope that a rail friendly government, i.e. Starmer's government can fix the HS2 debacle and get it finished. HS2 was the debacle it was by design because the Tories wanted it to fail.
It really annoys me that this guy is showing us first class seating when most of us can’t afford to use the train let alone first class! I am looking forward to seeing the HS2 trains when the construction of the line is finished, they’re capable of 225mph
I wudnt want to go so fast!!! Even on a normal train as it passes another going in the opposite direction the sudden noise as they slam past each other is nerve wracking...and i love speed! U cant beat the steam trains...beautiful & chugs along at a lovely pace ❤
@@easygaming2003 think the clue is in the name! Lol yes it was/is (?) fast but ive been on a few steam trains & they just dont go super fast...which i prefer. When i said 'chugs along' i meant they are normally of a slightly slower pace...i wud hate to go on a 'bullet train'!!@@ 🤯
Standard Class (Advance booked) ticket £36. You need to consider more than just petrol (gas), there is the wear and tear costs on your car - the more miles you do the sooner you need tyres, repairs etc. I think £36 ($47.77 USD) is good value. You don't have car parking charges in London either. The train wins hands down for me and it's more environmentally friendly too.
Comes under high speed classic. 125mph maximum speed. Why? A multitude of reasons.
1. 4-aspect visual outside signals. These can be missed above this speed.
2. Block spacing - stopping distance to the next signal.
3. Limits on catenary spacing - a bow wave on the wire could cause excess wear
4. Track curvature at their shallowest can only accept speeds up to 125mph.
HST, IET and Pendolino are limited to 125mph on Britain's railways. HS1 is Britain's only true high speed line.
didnt a hst get to 140?
@@highpath4776 Yes but that would not be practical on a day to day basis
A typical London/South Eastern England area 12 carriage commuter train is capable of carrying 1,754 passengers up to a speed of 100mph. (Class 700)
Oh we got huge commuter trains in the US too. LIRR runs up to 14 car single decker trains (1484 passengers all seated, a lot more if you count standing room) during peak times going into and out of Penn station and New Jersey Transit runs up to 9 car double decker trains which carry up to 1278 passengers all seated. I'm assuming that 1754 passenger capacity on the class 700 is standing room.
Yeah, 110 isn't fast, the old HST trains, like the Intercity 125 could reach 125mph and that was introduced in 1975.
However if you don't include dedicated high speed lines Britain still on average has the fastest intercity train services in the world.
@@FloweredUp-n4t why would you not include high speed lines?
HSTs are limited to 110mph on the WCML however the Evero will be able to do 125mph once more of it is upgraded with 125MU speed boards.
The Class 87 electric locomotives introduced by British Rail for the WCML electrification from Weaver Junction to Glasgow Central in 1974 could easily do 110 mph (or more!) on level track!
@@KempSimon They officially couldn't do more than 110mph.
MK didn't really change in 2022 it was just officially upgraded from a town to a city
Progress? Don't make me laugh. When I was a teenager, back in the late 70s, I could leave my hometown of Swansea, Wales, and be in London in less than 3 hours - average speed of over 125mph, thanks to the class 43 HST. These new trains are SLOWER than trains made in the 1970s!! Millennials mock us 'Boomers' but at least WE MADE STUFF!!
We are going Backwards!!
safety
@@microlach6632 on the railways in the UK, after that disastrous privatization, there were many, many, many more deadly accidents due to management cost-cutting and putting shareholders before safety...just like Boeing Today.
@@swanvictor887 As a late boomer early gen x'er, I drove passenger trains and the slowee speeds are down to rail regulations, not the trains themselves.
It was the boomers that got rid of it all and fucked everything so don't try act like your generation didn't leave a fuck of a mess 😂
Chalk that up to tighter safety regulations and just more traffic on the rails as many of the main lines are at or over capacity. The Class 390s and IETs are both capable of 140mph speeds, but no rail line outside of HS1 in the Uk permits those speeds.
City status in the UK can be associated with having a cathedral or a university, a particular form of local government, or having a large population. Although any of these might be used to justify the popular use of the term 'city', in formal terms UK city status is granted by the monarch, on the advice of ministers.14 Nov 2022
Avanti West Coast ( London Glasgow, Edinburgh) may have lovely trains but they are one of the worst train companies for delays ,late running and cancellations,they are in danger of losing the franchise if they don't improve ❤
Back in February I took Avanti between London and Crewe on one of their class 390 Pendolinos, those are the tilting trains that can operate at 125mph on the WCML, very quiet and comfortable, if a bit pricey. For us Americans, inter-city rail like this is unheard of outside of the Northeast Corridor between Boston-NYC-Washington DC. As for the cost comparison, you'd pay about the same to ride on the Amtrak Acela from NYC to Washington DC, which is also a 2 hour trip. The London to Crewe trip is also only 1hr 35min on the class 390 tilting trains which go 125mph. We also do have some dual mode diesel/electric trains in the US, though only operating out of NYC, Amtrak uses them on their services from NYC to upstate NY and Metro North uses them for services from Grand Central station to the Hudson valley and some of their services into Connecticut.
Remember that was a First Class fare.
Standard would be cheaper.
In my opinion First Class on trains is just not worth the extra. On a long trip say London to Edinburgh its probably cheaper and much faster to Fly.
Took one of these from Paddington to Cardiff back in May.. and returned a few days later. Admittedly, seats aren't too comfortable.. I'm 6ft 5, and there's plenty of legroom. These things go like a rocket once they leave a station. I prefer the hst 125.(nostalgic reasons). However, these aren't as bad as what people make out. Only took 1hr 40 mins on a quick service, which i was impressed with
Regarding the electrical system, generally the busiest routes between the most important towns and cities are electrified.
Usually this is by means of high voltage cables above the track.
But installing these cables is very expensive so many of the routes to smaller towns and cities are not electrified and trains must be powered by diesel.
Many trains run on routes which are electrified for part of the way but until recently it was not possible to have a train which could be both diesel and electric powered.
The route featured in the video is actually electrified for about 90% of the distance and the older trains which this train replaces had to run on diesel for the entire jorney so it’s easy to see why a train which can use both is a good idea.
@@extrude22 The overhead electrification is 25000 volts AC
If you drive in to London you'll be hit with congestion charges, clean air charges via the dystopian camera systems and IF you can find somewhere to park, you'll be paying $10 an hour to do so. Then there's the gridlocked traffic to deal with. Most people that live in London proper don't even own cars because of this.
Yup, only place in the US that is about as bad to drive in is Manhattan, which is why you also take the train into NYC f you can. LIRR and Metro North offer fast and frequent commuter service from Long Island, Westchester county and the outer boroughs into Manhattan. And then within Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx you also have the subway.
These trains have SEATS?????? 2.15 hours from Manchester to Euston …. Standing as it’s a commuter train, too. Chester is v nice …. Medieval street plan, Roman walls, lovely cathedral.
I do like the new Avanti West Coast Class 805 Bi-Mode "Evero" that Hitachi have built. Plus the Electric Class 807 "Evero" is to come into service sometime this year or early-mid next year (2025).
The trains this train replaces could tilt because the line this company operates has lots of curves tilting allows trains to run into the curves without slowing down.
But tilting is more for passenger comfort than safety and it’s a bit of a technological dead end so you can’t buy a tilting train off the shelf anymore.
These trains have good enough acceleration that they can do the journey in the same amount of time as the old trains without being able to tilt.
What will be interesting is seeing how not tilting at 125mph feels, could be like a roller coaster!
The Class 805 Evero's are limited to a maximum speed of 110mph even when the linespeed is higher
@@KempSimon There are some engineering works going on with the WCML, mainly on the Trent valley line to allow the 805s to run at 125mph. A few sections have already been completed since the original video was made in June and the 805s can already operate at 125 in a few spots. They're basically increasing the banking of the track on certain curves.
Alstom still makes a tilting train, but only for Amtrak, the Avelia Liberty aka Acela 2.0. They may still make some Pendolino variants for the Italian market as well.
For a little bit of understanding on the tilting trains.
Calss 390 pendilions introduced in the early 2000s along side Voyager and super voyager class 220 and 221s tilt due the the owner of the former franchise virgin Trains who run virgin alantic, wanted these trains to go faster etc etc with the help of the tilting hydralic system which Class 390 achices 140mph at top speed..
However the Hatchi british rail class 800/1/3/4/5/7 Does not tilt due to the Tilting featuer not being built with thr train
Bi mode trains has been a thing in brtish rail for around 50 to 60 years with the form of 3rd rail electric and Ac 25kw Overhead wires. The Bi mode deasil electric is a realtivly new thing here with the introduction of the class 82 locomotive in 2012
standard class is about £36. Which isnt too bad considering to drive the 160 miles in a car that does about 30 miles to the gallon with our petrol costs would be about £30, then you have to factor in parking, congestion charge (london city charge) then general wear and tear and other costs associated with owning a car.
And factor in time. In a car you're going 70mph tops (legally anyway) on the motorway, assuming traffic is moving and you don't get stuck in a traffic jam.
These days City status is basically at the gift of the Monarch. These days that would be The King. Back in the day it used to be the place had to have a cathedral, but that is no longer the case.
I think it was a Cathedral and a University…at least that’s what I seem to recall being taught in Geography as a thirteen year old 😊
@@lynnejamieson2063 Yes you could be correct about Universities.
Both the Cathedral and University or both being required are myths and aren't true. this has never actually been the case
@@lynnejamieson2063 - No. The only requirement for city status was to have an Anglican Cathedral. Having your own Institution of Higher Education never entered into the equation. If it did, Guildford in Surrey would be a city twice over!
@@stevefrost64 - No, the only requirement for city status was to have your own Anglican cathedral.
Not a patch on the Javelin trains which run at 140 mph.
You could drive but I've spent an hour before now heading into or out of London where he pointed out Wembley Stadium and the announcement for arrival was playing :) It takes a lot longer to drive anywhere in the UK than in the US because we don't have long straight roads going where you want to go. I live on the West Coast Mainline less than 2 miles from Wolverhampton station and used to take the Pendolinos and Voyagers several times a week between Wolverhampton and Birmingham and use them to head to London and back several times a year. As long as you're booking about 30 days in advance it's pretty good value and it's always a lot quicker than driving. I used to always take up the offer of first class for a pound upgrade on the return journey too. Extra legroom when I'm knackered for a quid. I'm in ;)
I visited the UK for the first time this year and I would love to have a rail system like the UK here in the US. Was able to get everywhere we wanted to go without driving. Most American cities outside of the Northeast have little to no rail service and really only NYC comes anywhere close to European levels of rail service, NYC is a city where it is much faster to take the subway or commuter trains.
Proud to be British 🇬🇧
Train every time for me, I'm a bit of a train geek too, even worked in a company supplying parts for trains and London Underground..1st class not really worth the money to be honest, less crowded yes, but you travel the same distance in standard coach...so doesn't make sense to me at least lol.. We are a country of train travel being normal, I live a 10 minutes from railway station, so can travel anywhere in UK and even abroad by train, relaxed, fed and watered ready for my holiday, meeting or whatever... Great video and reaction, and Tuna and sweetcorn is delicious, it's mixed with mayo, so very tasty indeed...I'm a non meat eater so one of my go to sandwiches.
Tuna is fish meat. You eat meat.
Just to let you know standard class has lots of legroom on the LNER high speed trains
There has been talk of making a tunnel between Northern Ireland and Scotland.
Went on one of these. While it's nice to actually see out the damn windows...they are really slow on that line.. Pendolino ..usually overcrowded lucky to get a seat and no actual window. But a lot faster...
Never ever buy a train ticket on the day … buy weeks in advance and it’s 1/4 of the price sometimes. Book the seats - it’s free but jeans yu get a seat unless someone sits in it anyway. Two singles may be cheaper than a return …. Check it out.
Evero "High Speed Train"? These new Class 805 Hitachi trainsets don't tilt when negotiating tight curves and are thus limited to a maximum of 110 mph between Holyhead and London!
Booking in advance greatly reduces the cost .
have a look at the severn valley,bluebell railways and north tyorkshire moors railwqay for contrast
Chester mentioned!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️
You won't get your car to do 30 bucks over here, for that distance. AND you'll have a circulation tax to pay as well, when you hit Central London.
The best thing for you would be to come over with your Britrail ticket (for Americans) then you can go here, there, and everywhere for free.!!!
And you can start right away from the airport.!!
I'll have to look into that the next time I go to the UK. I went in February and train fares certainly weren't cheap. $31 each for Heathrow Express just to Paddington, a few bucks on the tube to Euston, $120ish each for London-Crewe on Avanti in first class, $20 each for Crewe-Shrewsbury on TfW and that was just the travel day out of London. For comparison, I live in Denver and we do actually have a very nice train service to the airport and it's just a $10 flat rate at all times to/from the airport and only $3.50 for an all day ticket for any train or bus in Denver/Boulder if you're not going to the airport.
The UK trains are slower, older and travel cost more that the many other countries in Europe. I agree that they are better than the US but have suffered from years of underinvestment. The main problem is the victorian infrastructure which means that these trains struggle to reach anywhere near their top speeds. For example the InterCity 125 High Speed Train was introduced in 1976. And in 48 years there has been no point buying a faster train because the ancient infrastructure simply cannot cope. The plan was to introduce HS2 but the UK Government scrapped that as too expensive and we have not moved forwards since 1976 (except for eye watering ticket prices).
You should waych the japanese high speed trains and the drivers when they change from one Driver to the next ..
Try uk fuel prices in comparinson £1,46 per litre not glallon for car n its not actually that bad (roughly 4 Litres's to the gallon) will still say our trains more expenise but better for enirmental reasons the amount of cars that same number of people would be polution is a menal diffrnce when most train carriages can gold sat down 150 people let along standing passenegers n on a train for ineter city its gonna be about 5-6 carriages but for crosscountry maybe more like 12-15 carriges and one ever 30 mins to an hour, makes sense mate, like im currently living in ilfracome on north coast of Devon, south west england got a view from my window a epic view of wales to the slight north n if on top of hill live on can see ireland so be able to get a quick bus to nearest train station when be in mainland europe within 4 hours and for around same price of airline ticket but seeing the countryside go by and without having a check in period at an aiport thin train stuff very cool and helpful
Long train? That's not a long train, not long at all. Just go to your nearest track see see the length of a goods train, 1/2 mile, easy
Cargo trains are always long. It's big for a passenger train. But not the biggest one you will find passengers wise you can get 10 to 12 car unit passenger trains
Using 3 or 4 engines, what a waste.
@@gagada124 normaly two ends and both have an engine. There probly two 5 car units attached together
@@gagada124 US freight trains can be up to 1.5 miles in length and will use 4-6 locomotives on average. No single locomotive could pull that much at once. But that huge freight train is hauling as much freight as 300-400 trucks.
1/2 mile? Hah, try 1.5 miles. US freight trains are on another level. The US rail system is VERY good at moving freight, and terrible at moving passengers.
18:40 There's a great Map Men video about City Status in the UK that will answer some of your questions about that.
It’s not the fastest, the older class 43 (Intercity 125) is faster running as the name suggests, 125mph. We have them running from my city (Inverness in the Scottish Highlands), and considering how old they are much more comfortable, particularly the seats. Though they announced they to be replaced as they now the same age as me (48). Though line speeds only allow 100mph at the most and only at a couple of sections throughout the Highland mainline mainly due to the geography (mountains). Also we don’t have electrified lines in Northern Scotland (though there are plans to do that) so all our trains are diesel driven
Yeah I don't think any of the remaining HSTs are operating at 125mph anymore. All the ScotRail ones are operating on track with a max speed of 100 and same goes for the few remaining ones GWR is running out in the west country, they're not running them on the main line anymore. After seeing Paddington in person I could only imagine how smoky and dirty it was in there back when the HSTs were operating there, all those old diesels just idling away in that enclosed space. And the noise since HSTs aren't exactly quiet either.
These new 800 series trains aren't as comfortable as the old Intercity 125s that they replace. The roofer is much more shaky. And, if they're running on diesel, noisier in the coaches.
They're not replacing HSTs, they're replacing the Super Voyagers. I suspect the 805s are much quieter on diesel than the old 221s are.
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I meant in general. All the LNER and EMR 125s are gone. I found the 800s much more shaky at high speed
If you're American, you don't pay anything - it's all free (so long as you bring with you your Britrail ticket).
But don't forget it, because you can't buy it here.
I'll need to do that next time I head over. I visited in February and opted to not do a Britrail ticket, probably spent around $400 on train fares in a week for two people, ok so more than half of that was Avanti in 1st class and std premium.
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It's widely understood by us Brits that tourists pay everything through the nose compared to what WE pay.
Just as one single example - imagine the barista at the airport or the baggage loader - they have to travel to the airport every day AND return !!!
What kind of fares do you think they'll be paying ?
I dont work at the airport but I can get there for one pound and 75 pence (cents) on the bus. The tube is about 3 or 4 pounds.
I'm very surprised in this day and age, so few tourists make any preparations or search on-line.
Even down to eating - that's yet another story - when I go out to eat, I pay less than half of what you tourists pay, and the food is good and wholesome, often dropping off the edges of the plate.!!!
Accomodation - another fiasco.!!
And so it goes on and on.
Leave I minute early in Japan and there would be a lot of personnel having to do a lot of bowing and retraining
That's a bit of an urban legend. JR has a 5 minute buffer for a train to be considered late. And even they will leave early if the train is full. They are still the most punctual on average in the world typically arriving within 1 minute of schedule. Tokyo metro is even more punctual arriving within 30 seconds of schedule on average.
seems a huge downgrade from the old virgin trains they bought, the only improvement i see is the brail, it only saves about 20-30 minutes, but the palomino was so much better looking in first class, i use to travel between Manchester and London often and some times went first class and they would bring a meal to your table on proper plates and glasses
thumbnail's picture isnt the evero
My car will go about 400 miles £70, would rather drive
Bro put a 7 year old train in the thumbnail
They are building HS2 - London to Birmingham, never needed, will never be finished - currently likely to cost £160 billion. Latvia built one of a similar length for £6 billion in four years.
It’s the most wasteful project in UK history and I’ve mates working on that gravy train.
More mile track was laid by Irish nsvvies with picks, shovels and dynamite on any 10 period of the 19th century than this catastrophe.
Love your reactions Neal. 😎👍🏽👍☘️
Sorry to correct you but HS2 is needed and will be completed
We can only hope that a rail friendly government, i.e. Starmer's government can fix the HS2 debacle and get it finished. HS2 was the debacle it was by design because the Tories wanted it to fail.
It really annoys me that this guy is showing us first class seating when most of us can’t afford to use the train let alone first class! I am looking forward to seeing the HS2 trains when the construction of the line is finished, they’re capable of 225mph
Your sound has an echo on it on the video...
im sorry but 125 isnt high speed
The evero is rubbish! Brocken engine’s. Brakes failing. And just absolutely crap.
The french and Japan trains are much faster than are uk high speed train's
And need to be - London, Birmingham and NW are very close in comparison.
That is because they run on special tracks that don't exist in most of the UK.
I wudnt want to go so fast!!! Even on a normal train as it passes another going in the opposite direction the sudden noise as they slam past each other is nerve wracking...and i love speed!
U cant beat the steam trains...beautiful & chugs along at a lovely pace ❤
@@3SeveredHeads the flying Scotsman was fast and that was a steam locomotive
@@easygaming2003 think the clue is in the name! Lol yes it was/is (?) fast but ive been on a few steam trains & they just dont go super fast...which i prefer. When i said 'chugs along' i meant they are normally of a slightly slower pace...i wud hate to go on a 'bullet train'!!@@ 🤯
Pendolinos are far more comfortable
Info on the route these and other trains run.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Coast_Main_Line
Yes, I'm from the US and the 390 is still probably my favorite train to ride on. And I've only visited the UK once.