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Here is my fun shoot with Victoria in Sacramento. I used both Canon EOS R RF 85mm F1.2 L and Sony A7iii FE 85mm F1.4 GM in this shoot.
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Both cameras are great! I’m sorry I own a canon R but I also like the images coming out of the Sony. Either one you can’t go wrong.
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Man, the way canon handle highlight is beautiful....
Thanks for sharing your insights 😊🙏
It’s hysterical how dramatic people are about these comparison videos. I’ve even seen people go as far to say skin tones look “dead” or “sick.” What?!? Both of these cameras genuinely look amazing. Are there differences? Of course, but the argument could be made that a lot of the differences come down to the glass. I have a Sony A7RII and have shot on an A7III and both cameras produce amazing images that I’ve never once been unhappy with. Amazing skin tones, highlight retention, color rendition... you name it! I feel like the Canon’s dynamic range was slightly less but still striking and not put beside another camera? You’d never know. Thanks for the comparison!
Thank you so much for sharing your insights 😄🙏
Love the sony a7iii 85mm here💕
Thank you 😊
Aside from the background being more blown out on the 1.2, I'm not seeing a big difference here. The Canon seems to be a bit washed out/faded, while the Sony’s contrast seems to pop out more.
Is there more compression on the RF? Or the Sony lens seems wider? Comparing the model’s face is a lot of the portrait shots seems the facial jawline is wider on the Sony, even the side profile seems somewhat wider?
Am I the only that likes the Sony color more lol?
Thanks for watching
The EOS R has very cool colored JPEGs, some of the worst I have seen from Canon, they almost looked washed out to me. The RP has warmer looking JPEGs, one of the best I have seen from Canon. I am a JPEG shooter, so that was a big reason I chose the RP over the R. The RP has better JPEGs then either of these cameras. I sold my a7iii when I got the RP.
@@michaelbell75 That is very interesting! Another TH-camr Mattias Burling mentioned that he preferred the color science from the Canon 6d mark ii to the EOS R. The RP has the same sensor as the 6d2
@@PeacePham1991 Yea, you can see it in Xing's video here
th-cam.com/video/n7EXHyg2oHQ/w-d-xo.html
@@michaelbell75 I believe he shoots in white priority white balance in camera in default settings. Me personally change it to simple auto white balance... Huge difference! Maybe our friend can tell us the exact setting in canon eos r.
Xing, I enjoyed watching the video and love both lenses !
Thank you so much 😊🙏🙏
Wasn’t expecting it but Sony color looked so much better to me.
thanks for sharing your observations :)
Fair to say this is a neck to neck competition.
Thank you so much for watching and sharing your insights 😊🙏🙏
The slight extra blur on the Canon is nice in the situations it is noticeable, but the actual bokeh seems slightly smoother on the Sony and I greatly prefer the colors on the GM.
Thanks for sharing your observations 🙏😊
@@caliallstaring thanks for sharing the comparison! :)
Skin colour and colours in general I prefer the R... but as soon as you were in high contrast situations and lower light the A7iii pulled ahead. Just discovered your channel: am loving these comparison vids! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you so much for sharing your insights 😄🙏🙏
Yes, at night the Sony performance is better and color awb is also better at night for Sony
The sharpness on the models face with a creamy bokeh on Cannon. Sony has softer image overall. I really like the separation the Canon gives.
Images at 7.00 mins show the true class of Cannon lenses. Sharpness on subject is undeniable.
Thanks for sharing your observations:)
Love your videos man.
Which combo would you choose? And is the weight difference noticable. Thanks and keep up the amazing work 😊
thanks so much :) the weight of the lens is about 1.5 to 2 times. I like the RF 85mm F1.2 L since I like bokeh a lot and it is very sharp at wide open.
Can you share your setting on the A7III for the pictures taken in this video? Your videos are always good to enjoy!
Thank you :) I use the standard profile and awb in this video. If you search “xing A7iii setting”, I have my setting videos. I use aperture priority mode.
Awb white priority
Thanks for the review i have just ordered the Canon .
nice 😊👌🏼 thanks for watching
Always love your content, keep posting please :D Thnx
...One question, which canon lens do you prefer RF 85mm 1.2 or RF 50mm 1.2 ??
Thank you 😊 I like the 50mm 1.2 more flexible
Guys，in some pictures，seems GM is little bit width than RF，is that（eg 3:17)?
Or should I reverse an eye examination？🤣😂
This is an excellent channel I can tell from the great people in the comment, good channels attract great people unlike some channels with crazy people bickering in the comments. Great video love every second of it.
Thank you so much for your support 😊🙏🙏
Love your work . Can you please show us some differences between rf 85 1.2 DS and non DS .
thank you :) I will mark it down for future content creation.
In some images I like Canon colours and in other images I like Sony colours
But I like Canon images overall, they're pleasing and soothing
Thanks for making good videos Xing Liu🙏
thank you so much for your support 😊🙏
I think for colours in jpeg Fujifilm is best but its only when u haven't time to edit
Otherwise shooting in raw is the best quality
This is so close, can't wait to see the sony a7iv. Can't go wrong with either.
C. Barrington 😊👌🏼
Nice video, just one question though, which one got her shirt color correct?
Canon has more correct color
Xing you should tweak saturation of orange on the sony a little bit to left.
No doubt canon is the king of lenses and color, but sony does good job too.
Thanks 4 good video.
Thank you for watching 😄🙏🙏
Great comparison! Have you revisited this comparison since the R5 release? Which lens do you prefer in terms of sharpness and rendering if you had to choose?
Thank you 😊 the R5 rental is not available yet, RF 85mm is very sharp
Did you ever try the 85 on the R5? Any updated thoughts on the RF 85 vs Sony 85 GM?
I think we all kinda know the answer this now with the R5 out. Canon RF glass crushes Sonys. Shoot, even sigma came out with an improvement over the Sony 85 GM. There is not a talking head on TH-cam who would recommend getting the Sony 85 GM in this video over the Sigma 85, 1.4 with the new mirrorless mount from Sigma. But the RF 85 1.2 from Canon destroys them both. Maybe one day Sony will stop relying on third-party manufacturers to outsource better glass. Until then, canon owns the market on glass, which is why they can command these ridiculous prices for their RF lenses. When you’re the best, you get to choose how much you cost.
Slight edge on bokeh on the Canon, but sooc the color and contrast is better on the Sony.
Thank you for sharing your insights
Hi Xing, What is the difference in quality between 85mm shots on a zoom lens (RF 70-200) compared to RF 85mm Prime lens
I haven’t shot with 70-200, but RF 85 is very sharp and great quality at wide open 1.2
Sometimes Sony looked better. Other times Canon looked better. This “Canon colour” thing is a myth.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts:)
Forums are full of poeple who can’t manage with Sony colors without spending hours (skin tones). And here some SOOC from Sony make think about a sick girl. I would not say a « myth »...
Patrick G. I sort of agree with you but for Sony colours on their older cameras and firmware (A7II and the former). Things have drastically changed since then.
It is just AWB thing and color settings / auto HDR on camera always 😁.
It used to be true, Sony used to have terrible color rendering, which they've addressed, but the steriotype lingers. The A7II was a good camera with lots of potential, but it was the A9 & A7III that was their first great cameras that delivered on the promise of mirrorless.
An auto white balance might have yield a much favour for the canon lens. Both lenses are great.
Dada Sasa thanks for sharing your insights
I am shooting Fuji medium format at the moment, and I want to add a FF kit into my bag. I definitely prefer the skin tones of Canon here, but that's just me. I will wait to see Canon's new bodies and then decide, but that RF 85 f1.2 combined with a good body should be a great combo! Thanks for your time and effort!
Thank you 😊 RF glasses at 1.2 are very sharp
Me too
Please suggest me for potrait fuji xt 3 or canon eos r ?
@@akshayrajput8845 Xing Liu once told me that Eos R if u r doing professional work
@@akshayrajput8845 you can start with Canon EOS R with RF 35mm F1.8 lens.
Hi Xing. Thank u for ur great job.
I have an question. Can u give me an advice?
I am not professional photographer but i really love backlight portrait and owning D750+105E. I want to switch to EOS RP+85RF, cuz 85RF is soo damm good but i'm worrying about it's dynamic range, even EOS R. Should i switch or not? Thank u
85 RF is very nice lens, I like to use with EOS R. And it is great for backlight as well. I have no problem with the dynamic range so far. You can think of the RF 85 as a 10 years investment. It will last multiple camera upgrade.
Nice work as usual! I own Sony A7iii and GM 85mm F1.4 and in-love with it. By the way, where is this location?
Thanks so much:) location is in Sacramento
Hi, greetings from Europe.
The validity of both objectives is evident,
you notice the difference in depth of field between F1.2 vs F1.4, Sony's work with eye tracking is unsurpassed, but in this case Canon, it went very very well.
The colors, wow, in many shots, Sony gives a good and refined jpeg, indeed already ready, as it tends to saturate with the editing, plus Sony returns a good skin color, you notice in a shot where Sony gives a color of uniform skin, face and hands, while the same shot, Canon returns only a good color of the face, this could be due to the difference between F1.4 and F1.2.
In backlight, Sony wins in my opinion, just notice the color of the hair, which is more natural .....
Thank you for sharing your observations 😊🙏
Scratching my head as to how and why so many people like the Canon colours more than Sony. Each to their own I guess but I don't see how the tones or colours from the Canon are even close to as good as Sony's colours in these examples. The Canon files seem way too magenta, the colours are washed out and you can tell the dynamic range is not as deep as the Sony's. Perhaps editing to match both cameras output might give a better comparison but I find overall the colour science from Sony seems more film-like. The highlights appear to have more depth but that could be an exposure setting. The Rf 85mm seems to have a slightly tighter aspect.
Thanks for watching and sharing your insights
People like canon colors more because they are more realistic (maybe not the right word to describe canon color), and sony likes to make people's skin tone little orange or darker. talking from experience and all the reviews and topics about it. When you shoot RAW it doesn't really matter because it can be changed in edit.
everybody talking about canon skin tones, but in some pictures I like mode the sony ones
Sony has the more round bokeh balls which is nice. The canon has so little difference in terms of amount of blur at 1.2 I don't think it's worth the extra 1000$. But it is a great lens I've owned both of these lenses.
Thank you for sharing your insights 😊🙏
At 5:35 you will see the difference of these two.
Thank you for sharing your insights:)
Both look great but if I had to be picky the Bokeh looks better and the “Canon Colors” strikes again here....The warm overall tone of the A7iii takes a little away from the image .....But once again both are great 😌....Do you remember what white balance you had the canon and Sony set to?
Thank you 😊 both AWB, Sony has the white priority on.
@@caliallstaring May i know is it benefit to have AWB-white priority on better skin tone? You took those pictures in RAW + Standard or Portrait mode?
@@gilbertgan1893 standard mode, I just left it at the AWB-white.
Great job! There is no clear winner =)
Thank you so much 😊
pls compare eos r vs canon 5d mark iv
Thank you for sharing your suggestions :) they both have the same sensor, and RF 85mm can’t be put on the mark iv
Sony colors look much better here
Thank you for watching 😄🙏
Too much green tone in some images from Sony..... My opinion... 😁
@@athanasiossismanis2367 thanks for sharing your opinion :)
lol not even close
I love Canon but in this video Sony's color looks better. Although I wonder if Canon will look as good if its set to AWB white priority or even get the K to warmer temp.
Thanks for watching 😊🙏
Xing, can you say some words to the used white balance pls?
Also: in my experience the EOS R underexposes a little bit depending where the focus point/Eye-AF is.
In some cases even the EOS R had yellow/greenish skintones, thats usually Sony's territory.
Both auto white balance, I let the camera decide based on the environment. Sony has auto white balance white priority mode on.
@@caliallstaring Thank you for your quick replay. Its strange, always when I use the EOS R outdoors the AWB/A/W gives me around +1000Kelvin too much to the warm side. Maybe its the evening lighting of the (yellow) sun or so....
@@matthiasb7853 yes, it depends on the lighting in the environment
@@matthiasb7853 I'm getting better results with the R using AWB white priority.
I like color canon eos R.. and i like bokeh RF 85mm f1.2
Thank you for watching:)
Nice Comparison! Thank U! Can I ask what is the A7 III white balance setting you used in the video?(white priority or normal)
White priority
Xing - how much is the Canon setup vs Sony?
$3596 Sony vs $4498 Canon
Canon bokeh is great - 6:40. And "Canon Colors".
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Canon RF 85mm F1.2L is the best !!!
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In canon the skin is more beautiful.
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Love this video,great review!
Thanks for watching
Nice!
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The pop and the details, loving that Sony lens. Especially on that furry jacket😁
Thank you for watching:)
Yes The Sony Colors here debunk the myth that Sony Colors stink…. On the other hand, the Canon is sharper and warmer with the skin tones and eyes. My very unprofessional opinion is the the Sony would be better for landscapes and more environmental portraits and images. But if you’re trying to maximize the portrait result, the Canon and the $1000 more RF 85 1.2 is marginally better. But do you have the $1000 extra to spend ? I guess it comes down to individual preference and budget…😊Also the flare is better controlled on the Sony, but more clinical. I guess I’d go with the Canon for my tastes and desires…Good comparison.
Thanks for sharing your insights 😊🙏
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Sony or canon if you had to pick? :)
canon RF lenses
Nikon shooter here,Canon colors are out of this world ,so natural and realistic.
Thank you so much for sharing your insights 😊🙏
I was not expecting this but the Sony won.
Thanks for watching
Picture vs Photo! What a difference I already know that because I had the GM and now the Canon! Sony is flat and love the 3D look of the Canon! That’s one of the reasons I did switch from Sony to Canon!
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Xing Liu welcome 🙏🏼
Eos rf di bawah Sony mark 3 jauh…coba eos r bukan rf
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Canon rules "black belt " !
Thank you for watching:)
For image quality Canon is better but for Sony the skin tone is very easy to tune if shooting raw. And Consider the system and price , Sony is a good option.
Thanks for sharing your insights 🙏
While many say it’s easy to edit or doesn’t matter when shooting raw, that’s only the case when off color tones are equally present in the image like with incorrect white balance. But when skin suddenly has green tints or when certain skin color tones are incorrect or missing it’s very hard to just edit that back in a way that looks natural. At least it may take you hours on an image that could have looked great out of cam.
slightly better bokeh with cannon,
the colors and the sharpness too ...
Thank you for sharing your insights 😄🙏
The Sony colours are way better, except for the skin tones on the face, where Canon wins out (mostly), but it's almost by an absence of colour, or at least an absence of adverse colour tints.
Thanks for sharing your observations 😊🙏
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😄✨🙌 yay!
No clear winner as far as the lenses go. Sony's warmer and more detail in the shadows. Hard to justify the Canon F/1.2 price when you look at these images.
Thank you for sharing your insights:)
SONY much better
Thanks for sharing your insights 😊🙏
Rf 85mn looks brighter.
Thank you for sharing your observations 😊🙏
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Canon is a monter creamy bokeh is beatiful !!!!!!!!!!
thank you so much for watching :)
I own the RF and it is simply the best prime I have had. So impressive.
Some says the R is not enough for it. I want to say lol.
😊🙏 thanks for sharing your experience
I have to admit, both are wonderful. I am a Sony shooter, but I have to say Canon RF 85mm is a overwhelmingly better in my opinion. Not only colours, the way it renders the image, the subject's features look much more pleasing.
Chris Konstantine thank you so much for sharing your insights 😊🙏🙏
Canon very beauty in here, but in dark situation sony better.
Thanks for watching:)
Which matches her real life skin?
Sony looks a little too saturated...
Skin color canon is closer
Que raro
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I like the Sony colors
thank you for watching :)
At first I liked Sony. It was warmer. But with each new photo I began to like more canon. Sony began to seem somehow too yellow. And canon, on the contrary, is more natural
Thanks for sharing your observations:)
Oversaturated Sony colours. Sony has to do something about this. Next year Canon will have a whole new lineup of bodies and those combined with the RF lenses will kill the sales of Sony in the fullframe department.
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They did not ;))) ! ...
canon colors are amazing
thank you for watching :)
This is the color difference we all expected between Canon and Sony. I prefer the Canon images.
Thanks for sharing your insights:)
Canon's bokeh at 1.2 beats Sony's at 1.4 by a country mile. Holy cow.
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People keep telling me F1.4 to F1.2 is an insignificant difference and this vid absolutely destroys that statement. Why Eos R? F1.2!
@@KB-wb3xh I can imagine the Nikon Noct blows these away yes.
@@KB-wb3xh A large aperture is more than just blur I would think. I have an Tamron 85mm F1.8. It's an amazing lens, I love it. It does everything well, but comparing it to the RF 85mm is like comparing a family car to a supercar. They both do exactly what is expected from them very well. Where I commend the RF lenses compared to their EF counterparts is that they are sharp at F1.2. Why pay for an F1.2 if you have to stop down to get usable sharpness.
Thanks for watching and sharing your insights
@@Ravencroft81 agreed 100%
Sony makes Yellow faces
Thanks for watching:) I noticed that as well
Eikichi Onizuka Canon = blue Face😳
Colors look better off the Canon
Thank you for sharing your insights
Canon all the way. Skin color is true to life, watch the video session and watch the photos. I think canon is way better. You want a good starting point, I think canon does that. Great comparison.
Thanks for watching and sharing your insights:)
Canon Better 90% but some Sony Where Better
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Man, it's so ridiculous to shot against the sun. So amator-ish
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I am guilty too!
The colour of Sony too yellow. The colour of Canon is noble. In the world of photoshop or photography the raw picture with a light colour is much easier to edit. If the raw file photo is a bit yellow it is still fucking yellow 🤣
Thanks for sharing your observations